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(ESPN)   And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood as Jason Whitlock falls on his own sword   (espn.go.com) divider line 45
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2014-04-04 08:59:17 AM
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2014-04-04 09:08:16 AM
I dunno, that doesn't seem convincing. I can think of high-maintenance players who left during free agency, or were traded, but none outright released when they weren't broken. Given that Snyder signed him, I'd say Jackson has an irreparable injury of some kind, one that would have had to have been reported in a trade.
 
2014-04-04 12:40:12 PM

vygramul: I'd say Jackson has an irreparable injury of some kind


You can't fix stupid.
 
2014-04-04 01:06:22 PM

Marcus Aurelius: vygramul: I'd say Jackson has an irreparable injury of some kind

You can't fix stupid.


But enough about Dan Snyder...
 
2014-04-04 01:14:16 PM
I'm sorry, but this looks like just another well-reasoned article that falls squarely in the bounds of his previous work. Hardly falling on his sword when he has previously told black athletes to "stop bojangling."
 
2014-04-04 01:15:11 PM
More interestingly, when did Whitlock start working for the WorldWideLeader? He has spent plenty of ink trying to diminish their brand.
 
2014-04-04 01:15:18 PM

This Looks Fun: I'm sorry, but this looks like just another well-reasoned article that falls squarely in the bounds of his previous work. Hardly falling on his sword when he has previously told black athletes to "stop bojangling."


But Bojangles chicken is delicious. Whitlock inhales buckets daily.
 
2014-04-04 01:18:55 PM
I've often vehemently disagreed with him but I find Whitlock to be one of the very few reasonable, honest  and truly open minded columnists out there.
 
2014-04-04 01:19:17 PM
Can anyone point me to his greatest hits? I am sensing a lot of hate for him and my only exposure has been his occasional stints on PTI.
 
2014-04-04 01:20:05 PM

doubled99: I've often vehemently disagreed with him but I find Whitlock to be one of the very few reasonable, honest  and truly open minded columnists out there.


Seemed thoughtful (but not infrequently wrong) on PTI, so I generally had a positive opinion of him.
 
2014-04-04 01:20:49 PM
You know what? You're in the NFL now, a public figure, like it or not. It's not "the hood" and it never will be. Thug life doesn't apply. Quit bringing that shiat with you or go back to the farking hood.
 
2014-04-04 01:25:13 PM
I think Whitlock got this one exactly right.

In an earlier thread, I said that I thought the Eagles releasing Jackson was evidence of life in a post-Aaron Hernandez NFL. But the more I think about it, this situation is more realistically seen as evidence of life in a post-Terrell Owens Eagles organization. Kelly wasn't the coach in those days, but there are people in the front office who were around back then and remember when the Eagles news was non-stop TO drama. And it sounds as though the situation with Jackson was heading in that direction.
 
2014-04-04 01:26:01 PM
To me this still falls on the Eagles.  Had they just stated (through their sources) that he was a cancer on their team, he took plays off and, generally, was a pain in the ass, then it would've been all on Jackson to clean that mess up.

Adding the whole "possible ties to gangs" took this to a level that it didn't need to go to.  After this, how many FAs would want to go to Philly if they understand that they'll treat them like shiat while kicking them out the door?
 
2014-04-04 01:27:28 PM
 
2014-04-04 01:29:06 PM
It's funny he says "you can't be Allen Iverson on a football field".

Allen Iverson is nothing like Jackson other than they're both small, black, and played in Philly.

Iverson had a more destructive upbringing and was arrested a few times

Jackson had a pretty solid upbringing and has never really been a problem off the field

Iverson wouldn't practice, but would always play balls out on the court

Jackson I guess didn't practice, but didn't always play balls out on the field


Not a good comparison really.
 
2014-04-04 01:29:33 PM

abhorrent1: You know what? You're in the NFL now, a public figure, like it or not. It's not "the hood" and it never will be. Thug life doesn't apply. Quit bringing that shiat with you or go back to the farking hood.


Yeah this.

If you survived the streets and managed to thrive in the NFL, why on earth would you still associate with people that could get you killed for wearing the wrong color. Buy your McMansion in the burbs and enjoy being rich while it lasts. Because it prob won't.
 
2014-04-04 01:55:26 PM

Rwa2play: Adding the whole "possible ties to gangs" took this to a level that it didn't need to go to


who added this to the release?  The Eagles?
 
2014-04-04 01:59:18 PM

This Looks Fun: More interestingly, when did Whitlock start working for the WorldWideLeader? He has spent plenty of ink trying to diminish their brand.


ESPN is trying to regain credibility. First Silberman and then Whitlock
 
2014-04-04 01:59:58 PM
Silberman? Autocorrect, you're drunk. Olbermann
 
2014-04-04 02:02:57 PM

Rwa2play: To me this still falls on the Eagles.  Had they just stated (through their sources) that he was a cancer on their team, he took plays off and, generally, was a pain in the ass, then it would've been all on Jackson to clean that mess up.

Adding the whole "possible ties to gangs" took this to a level that it didn't need to go to.  After this, how many FAs would want to go to Philly if they understand that they'll treat them like shiat while kicking them out the door?


Or had they even just said, "we don't think he's worth what we have to pay him."
 
2014-04-04 02:03:41 PM

johnny_vegas: who added this to the release? The Eagles?


So it's a mere coincidence he was realized w/in a hour of the NJ.com story (or whatever the exact timeframe was)?

Look, I'm not going to say the Eagles organization is "racist", but I also don't think a sports franchise under the sun exists that is above leaking things to local media when they see fit (teams that I support have done so...coughREDSOXcough....), so yeah. I have a hard time thinking the Eagles weren't somewhat complicit in all of this non-football-related crap circling the release.
 
2014-04-04 02:04:23 PM

HaywoodJablonski: This Looks Fun: More interestingly, when did Whitlock start working for the WorldWideLeader? He has spent plenty of ink trying to diminish their brand.

ESPN is trying to regain credibility. First Silberman and then Whitlock


They have a TON of ground to gain in credibility by losing some people. I can't believe they would be making legitimate credibility efforts and still be retaining Steven A and Skip.
 
2014-04-04 02:10:50 PM
Subby apparently has not seen anything by Whitlock in the last, oh... decade?
 
2014-04-04 02:12:43 PM

This Looks Fun: HaywoodJablonski: This Looks Fun: More interestingly, when did Whitlock start working for the WorldWideLeader? He has spent plenty of ink trying to diminish their brand.

ESPN is trying to regain credibility. First Silberman and then Whitlock

They have a TON of ground to gain in credibility by losing some people. I can't believe they would be making legitimate credibility efforts and still be retaining Steven A and Skip.


You're preaching to the choir. But I guess you have to start somewhere.
 
2014-04-04 02:16:19 PM

Killer Cars: realized


Well, that happened.
 
2014-04-04 02:20:38 PM

doubled99: I've often vehemently disagreed with him but I find Whitlock to be one of the very few reasonable, honest  and truly open minded columnists out there.


I'm not ashamed to say that I seek out and enjoy his columns even when we disagree. He wears his heart on his sleeve, but he defends even his unpopular beliefs with reasoning (sometimes flawed), personal anecdote, and an ability to reflect openly about himself. I think the world of opinion journalism could take an entire course in Whitlock and be better for it.
 
2014-04-04 02:34:05 PM

This Looks Fun: HaywoodJablonski: This Looks Fun: More interestingly, when did Whitlock start working for the WorldWideLeader? He has spent plenty of ink trying to diminish their brand.

ESPN is trying to regain credibility. First Silberman and then Whitlock

They have a TON of ground to gain in credibility by losing some people. I can't believe they would be making legitimate credibility efforts and still be retaining Steven A and Skip.


Good start, but add Jeffery Chadiha to the list.  All of his "articles" are thinly-veiled attempts to increase click counts and ad buy.  His infamous "Pete Carroll will destroy the Seahawks" was a classic exercise in stupidity.

\has ESPN ever been about journalism, though?
\\when I watched it, it was always about stupid catchphrases
 
2014-04-04 02:42:29 PM

Killer Cars: johnny_vegas: who added this to the release? The Eagles?

So it's a mere coincidence he was realized w/in a hour of the NJ.com story (or whatever the exact timeframe was)?

Look, I'm not going to say the Eagles organization is "racist", but I also don't think a sports franchise under the sun exists that is above leaking things to local media when they see fit (teams that I support have done so...coughREDSOXcough....), so yeah. I have a hard time thinking the Eagles weren't somewhat complicit in all of this non-football-related crap circling the release.


My thoughts are they leaked the story as a smokescreen for Kelly just wanting him gone.  The story allowed the Eagles to dodge the "Why'd you cut DeSean?" question because it's implied that the release is related to the report.
 
2014-04-04 02:46:17 PM
Rwa2play - Aren't several teams known for stabbing players in the back on their way out? Would a player really pass up a chance at the money the Eagles will pay him just because they could say mean things when he leaves? Not if they are the highest bidder. And no one who is looking for a championship is going to the Eagles. Though I admit their chances may be getting better recently.
 
2014-04-04 03:00:22 PM

Cymbal: abhorrent1: You know what? You're in the NFL now, a public figure, like it or not. It's not "the hood" and it never will be. Thug life doesn't apply. Quit bringing that shiat with you or go back to the farking hood.

Yeah this.

If you survived the streets and managed to thrive in the NFL, why on earth would you still associate with people that could get you killed for wearing the wrong color. Buy your McMansion in the burbs and enjoy being rich while it lasts. Because it prob won't.


No, morans, you've missed the point: all this gang affiliation stuff is completely unfounded. He's not in a gang, or with a gang, and he's never done anything to indicate he's about to have legal issues. He's got bravado, runs his mouth, has a bad attitude, and he financed a couple of rap albums -- so nervous white people call that "thug" (which is, we all know, code for attractive and successful) and think, oh a black guy that isn't smiling, I bet he's going to murder someone soon. Fark off with that.

/hates Philly and never liked DJax
//but isn't about to fall for media BS either
 
2014-04-04 03:06:17 PM
Desean Jackson used to hide in the bathroom to avoid special teams meetings.  Didn't happen just once, but was a regular occurrence.  Seriously, what kind of immature person does this?
 
2014-04-04 03:09:41 PM

BunkyBrewman: Desean Jackson used to hide in the bathroom to avoid special teams meetings.  Didn't happen just once, but was a regular occurrence.  Seriously, what kind of immature person does this?


A Crip, obviously. Someone actually hiding instead of having the cojones to simply walk the F out of team facilities if they don't want to attend meetings is totally the behavior of someone with GANG AFFILIATIONS.
 
2014-04-04 03:11:10 PM

BunkyBrewman: Desean Jackson used to hide in the bathroom to avoid special teams meetings.  Didn't happen just once, but was a regular occurrence.  Seriously, what kind of immature person does this?


I know I recommend this book to anyone, but Collision Low Crossers does a great job of spelling out the excruciating boredom of unit meetings.  I think most teams not only look for a physical athlete, but also one that is mentally able to sit through two or three hours of mind-numbing film forward, film backward droning.  I get that he's a part of the team, etc., etc., but, really, he's the returner.  He gets the ball and runs with it.  How many different ways can they call a return?

\had to watch film in high school with the coach
\\goodness, it was awful
 
2014-04-04 04:07:11 PM
Jackson was late to practices, team functions, meetings, etc... quite frequently. He also had a bad attitude with the coaching staff and didn't always put in 100% effort. That would get most people fired from their job.
 
2014-04-04 04:27:46 PM

Cymbal: abhorrent1: You know what? You're in the NFL now, a public figure, like it or not. It's not "the hood" and it never will be. Thug life doesn't apply. Quit bringing that shiat with you or go back to the farking hood.

Yeah this.

If you survived the streets and managed to thrive in the NFL, why on earth would you still associate with people that could get you killed for wearing the wrong color. Buy your McMansion in the burbs and enjoy being rich while it lasts. Because it prob won't.


It's almost as if neither of you have a clue about his upbringing, so you just went with racial stereotypes to express your outrage.

Congrats!
 
2014-04-04 05:06:06 PM

machoprogrammer: Jackson was late to practices, team functions, meetings, etc... quite frequently. He also had a bad attitude with the coaching staff and didn't always put in 100% effort. That would get most people fired from their job.


Sounds like middle management where I work.
 
2014-04-04 05:14:25 PM

machoprogrammer: Jackson was late to practices, team functions, meetings, etc... quite frequently. He also had a bad attitude with the coaching staff and didn't always put in 100% effort. That would get most people fired from their job.


Most jobs people don't put in 100% effort all the time. Hell, we're here on Fark.
 
2014-04-04 05:34:27 PM

IAmRight: machoprogrammer: Jackson was late to practices, team functions, meetings, etc... quite frequently. He also had a bad attitude with the coaching staff and didn't always put in 100% effort. That would get most people fired from their job.

Most jobs people don't put in 100% effort all the time. Hell, we're here on Fark.


True but he seemed to do it an awful lot, especially when he only has to play 3 hours a week for 16 weeks a year
 
2014-04-04 06:06:56 PM
@whizbang - so he's not a cerebral, gym rat, student of the game?
 
2014-04-04 06:38:23 PM

machoprogrammer: True but he seemed to do it an awful lot, especially when he only has to play 3 hours a week for 16 weeks a year


Hey they usually get bounced in the first round of the playoffs. And there's roughly a combined 1.5 of the 4 preseason games or so. 18.5 games!

/after playing Madden or whatever (maybe it was 2k5 back in the day) as a WR, I gotta say, f*ck plays that don't go to me, and f*ck QBs that only throw to me when I'm covered, then miss me by several yards
 
2014-04-04 08:47:11 PM

vygramul: I dunno, that doesn't seem convincing. I can think of high-maintenance players who left during free agency, or were traded, but none outright released when they weren't broken. Given that Snyder signed him, I'd say Jackson has an irreparable injury of some kind, one that would have had to have been reported in a trade.


Plenty of players have been released for outrageous reasons or traded for nothing essentially, Jeff George comes to mind.

Its pretty clear Jackson was just selfish and only cared about him, teams don't thrive with players like that.
 
2014-04-04 09:54:37 PM

machoprogrammer: IAmRight: machoprogrammer: Jackson was late to practices, team functions, meetings, etc... quite frequently. He also had a bad attitude with the coaching staff and didn't always put in 100% effort. That would get most people fired from their job.

Most jobs people don't put in 100% effort all the time. Hell, we're here on Fark.

True but he seemed to do it an awful lot, especially when he only has to play 3 hours a week for 16 weeks a year


If he stayed with the Eagles, he could be playing up to 19 games this year. If you include the pre-season.
 
2014-04-04 11:25:45 PM

steamingpile: vygramul: I dunno, that doesn't seem convincing. I can think of high-maintenance players who left during free agency, or were traded, but none outright released when they weren't broken. Given that Snyder signed him, I'd say Jackson has an irreparable injury of some kind, one that would have had to have been reported in a trade.

Plenty of players have been released for outrageous reasons or traded for nothing essentially, Jeff George comes to mind.

Its pretty clear Jackson was just selfish and only cared about him, teams don't thrive with players like that.


Yeah, but I was talking about GOOD players.
 
2014-04-05 12:35:05 AM

doubled99: I've often vehemently disagreed with him but I find Whitlock to be one of the very few reasonable, honest  and truly open minded columnists out there.


I feel the same, even when I disagree with his opinions I still respect his intelligence and integrity.
 
2014-04-05 05:01:36 PM

Killer Cars: johnny_vegas: who added this to the release? The Eagles?

So it's a mere coincidence he was realized w/in a hour of the NJ.com story (or whatever the exact timeframe was)?

Look, I'm not going to say the Eagles organization is "racist", but I also don't think a sports franchise under the sun exists that is above leaking things to local media when they see fit (teams that I support have done so...coughREDSOXcough....), so yeah. I have a hard time thinking the Eagles weren't somewhat complicit in all of this non-football-related crap circling the release.


so show where the eagles said it, that's all
 
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