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(The New York Observer)   New York apartments are getting so small - between 90 and 300 sq. ft. - and are being lived in by so many people that psychologists are warning that people are starting to get squirrely (pics)   (observer.com) divider line 143
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2014-04-04 09:40:43 AM  
Join the Navy. You'll get paid to live in that much space.
 
2014-04-04 10:22:54 AM  
It could always be worse.

www.bloomberg.com
 
2014-04-04 10:24:53 AM  
Nothing wrong with "micro-apartments" in a real city, particularly for single young people (or people who can't afford bigger ones).  Your apartment is where you poop, wash, and sleep.  You can do everything else around the city.
 
2014-04-04 10:25:05 AM  
Hong Kong laughs at your huge 90 square foot condominiums:

popupcity.net
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-04-04 10:25:19 AM  
www.zeekman.com
 
2014-04-04 10:25:37 AM  
Throw up a shiatty wall in a studio, called it a one bed room, and jacked the price.
 
2014-04-04 10:26:56 AM  
Crazy people in New York? Say it ain't so!
 
2014-04-04 10:27:48 AM  
Wow, living in New York is shiatty.  $1270 for 100 sq. ft?  Really?  I could have a 2000 sq ft. house on 3 acres of land for that much.  You people are dumb.  DUMB.
 
2014-04-04 10:28:39 AM  
I have a good friend that just moved to Manhattan. Her place is no bigger than my living room. 1800 bucks a month. Crazy.
 
2014-04-04 10:29:31 AM  
The point of living in Manhattan is to be out. The only thing you need an apt for is to sleep, defecate, and get laid.

I see gweilo8888 has Kowloon covered.
 
2014-04-04 10:29:36 AM  

blatz514: [www.zeekman.com image 650x488]


Oh for farksake, what is that hanging out.
 
2014-04-04 10:30:24 AM  
Don't tell me that residential density in New York City is out of hand unless you've taken the Tenement Museum tour first.

Having a 90sf micro-studio that you can call your own is nothing compared to sharing a 2-bedroom with a dozen other people who have to work and sleep in shifts.

/and having the bathtub in the kitchen.
 
2014-04-04 10:30:49 AM  
That apartment looks cozy as fark. I live in a efficiency apartment. Got a bathroom a kitchen and a room for everything else and I still only use half of the main room and half the kitchen. People get all too uppity about big houses and apartments. I love cozy little areas. Of course I'm the kind of person who thought Harry potters cupboard was nice. Put a flat screen on the ceiling. Find a place to put a ps3 and lie back and game.
 
2014-04-04 10:31:20 AM  
If youre living in NY your already 'squirrely.'
 
2014-04-04 10:32:18 AM  
I think that place in the picture was a fark story a year ago. IIRC the bathroom is behind the staircase.

But yeah 100 sq ft for $1200, fark that noise. I dont need a lot of room myself but even for NYC that seems nuts.
 
2014-04-04 10:32:19 AM  

H31N0US: The point of living in Manhattan is to be out. The only thing you need an apt for is to sleep, defecate, and get laid.

I see gweilo8888 has Kowloon covered.


Pick 2.
 
2014-04-04 10:32:34 AM  

poot_rootbeer: Don't tell me that residential density in New York City is out of hand unless you've taken the Tenement Museum tour first.


Consider that those were outlawed for a reason.
 
2014-04-04 10:32:55 AM  
"Micro-loft"
moodyeyeview.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-04 10:33:27 AM  
I'd rather live in a van down by the river.
 
2014-04-04 10:33:59 AM  
I didn't mind dorm life, and I was probably in the worst era for bulky crap (mid-90s, when everyone had a computer, but they were all bulky desktops with CRTs).  With a laptop (+tablet?) replacing the bulky PC and the music/VHS/book/paperwork piles, I think I could fit back in a dorm room pretty well.
 
2014-04-04 10:34:09 AM  
I lived in a sub 400 sq. ft. studio in the UWS for two years.

It really wasn't that bad -- certainly helped that the neighborhood was nice, Subway was about a block away, and Riverside Park was a 5 minute walk.

If I learned anything from the experience, it's that most of the crap people have in their house you really don't need.
 
2014-04-04 10:34:22 AM  
Make fun of me all you want for living in Kansas but I can stand on my deck and see farmland for miles. Go to the front and spend all the time I want with my neighbors. Within 5 minutes of my house there are 3 golf courses each with large practice areas. Ten minutes from any restaurant you would want.
All on the cheap.
 
2014-04-04 10:35:44 AM  
 
2014-04-04 10:35:54 AM  
Heh, peeps be all trying to justify how awesome that situation is.  Cognitive dissonance.
 
2014-04-04 10:36:15 AM  

Whatchoo Talkinbout: blatz514: [www.zeekman.com image 650x488]

Oh for farksake, what is that hanging out.


that is called a panos......i see them daily.
 
2014-04-04 10:36:46 AM  

wichitaleaf: Make fun of me all you want for living in Kansas but I can stand on my deck and see farmland for miles. Go to the front and spend all the time I want with my neighbors. Within 5 minutes of my house there are 3 golf courses each with large practice areas. Ten minutes from any restaurant you would want.
All on the cheap.


Agreed

/Lawrence
 
2014-04-04 10:41:06 AM  
I wouldn't do it forever, or with another person or pet, but living over seas, I've stayed months at a time living in ~ 150sqft.  Bed, desk, window, wardrobe, small private washroom with shower.  Quite comfy.

I ate all my meals except for snacking outside, and dropped off my laundry to be done once a week.  Was happy as a clam.
 
2014-04-04 10:41:26 AM  

H31N0US: The point of living in Manhattan is to be out. The only thing you need an apt for is to sleep, defecate, and get laid.

I see gweilo8888 has Kowloon covered.


I'd also look at it this way: people spend thousands of dollars a year to visit NYC (or similar cities) to have access to its unique offerings. So there is a lot of value in having access to everything in NYC 24/7.
 
2014-04-04 10:41:59 AM  
I'm all for this trend. The more of you we can warehouse in the big cities, the less of you there are getting in my way out here in shiatsville. Big cities are heavenly... You should consider moving there.
 
2014-04-04 10:43:34 AM  
$1200 per month for a space the size of my walk in closet?? Living in NEPA may be a tad boring but I can be in Manhattan or Filthadelphia in 2 hours drive and get to live in a 3,600 sq ft home on some land.
 
2014-04-04 10:43:36 AM  

wichitaleaf: Make fun of me all you want for living in Kansas but I can stand on my deck and see farmland for miles. Go to the front and spend all the time I want with my neighbors. Within 5 minutes of my house there are 3 golf courses each with large practice areas. Ten minutes from any restaurant you would want.
All on the cheap.


But you don't live in an asshole infested urine soaked hellhole!!
 
2014-04-04 10:43:38 AM  
"Getting Locusty" seems more apt.
 
2014-04-04 10:45:55 AM  

Arkanaut: Nothing wrong with "micro-apartments" in a real city, particularly for single young people (or people who can't afford bigger ones).  Your apartment is where you poop, wash, and sleep.  You can do everything else around the city.


But many of these micro-apartments don't have bathrooms. (I guess there is a shared one down the hall.) That's the one thing that would stop me. I am not walking down the common hall in my PJs in three in the morning to go pee. A private bathroom is a must. I don't need a full tub but at least a shower.

It's fun living that way for the first few weeks in a dorm. Not so much if you are a grown adult and your 82 year old neighbor has a shy bladder and has been hogging the bathroom all morning.
 
2014-04-04 10:46:42 AM  

Yellow Beard: $1200 per month for a space the size of my walk in closet?? Living in NEPA may be a tad boring but I can be in Manhattan or Filthadelphia in 2 hours drive and get to live in a 3,600 sq ft home on some land.


$1200 a month covers my mortgage and car payments and insurance and a bit of my entertainment budget. People are strange.
 
2014-04-04 10:47:19 AM  

Yellow Beard: $1200 per month for a space the size of my walk in closet?? Living in NEPA may be a tad boring but I can be in Manhattan or Filthadelphia in 2 hours drive and get to live in a 3,600 sq ft home on some land.


I love how a 2 hour drive is suddenly like living next door to a major city.

how often are you zipping into the city for a day? A few times a year?
 
2014-04-04 10:48:25 AM  
Like a rat in a cage.
 
2014-04-04 10:52:09 AM  

blatz514: [www.zeekman.com image 650x488]


Oh dear god. I farking hate you
 
2014-04-04 10:53:57 AM  

thornhill: Yellow Beard: $1200 per month for a space the size of my walk in closet?? Living in NEPA may be a tad boring but I can be in Manhattan or Filthadelphia in 2 hours drive and get to live in a 3,600 sq ft home on some land.

I love how a 2 hour drive is suddenly like living next door to a major city.

how often are you zipping into the city for a day? A few times a year?


Actually I am in Manhattan or Brooklyn several times per month. For work, certainly not pleasure. The only thing I really like about the city is the food choices.
 
2014-04-04 10:55:22 AM  
How much of the cost of apartments in NYC is driven by issues not specifically related to real economic supply and demand?  The real back story is that you cannot just go put up apartments if you want to build them.  So much red tape, affordable, rent controlled, and other factors there is not really a true supply and demand.
 
2014-04-04 10:55:53 AM  
No way.  I couldn't do it.

My 2k sq ft house feels cramped some days.  I think I'd go a bit nuts if I didn't have 10 ft ceilings.

There is no way I could live in a closet.
 
2014-04-04 10:56:21 AM  

wichitaleaf: Make fun of me all you want for living in Kansas but I can stand on my deck and see farmland for miles. Go to the front and spend all the time I want with my neighbors. Within 5 minutes of my house there are 3 golf courses each with large practice areas. Ten minutes from any restaurant you would want.
All on the cheap.


Same way here in SC
 
2014-04-04 10:58:17 AM  

GORDON: Heh, peeps be all trying to justify how awesome that situation is.  Cognitive dissonance.


Yeah, couldn't possibly be that there are people who have different lifestyles.


mekki: Arkanaut: Nothing wrong with "micro-apartments" in a real city, particularly for single young people (or people who can't afford bigger ones).  Your apartment is where you poop, wash, and sleep.  You can do everything else around the city.

But many of these micro-apartments don't have bathrooms. (I guess there is a shared one down the hall.) That's the one thing that would stop me. I am not walking down the common hall in my PJs in three in the morning to go pee. A private bathroom is a must. I don't need a full tub but at least a shower.

It's fun living that way for the first few weeks in a dorm. Not so much if you are a grown adult and your 82 year old neighbor has a shy bladder and has been hogging the bathroom all morning.


That would suck... most 82-year-olds would probably have their own places though.
 
2014-04-04 11:01:29 AM  

Yellow Beard: thornhill: Yellow Beard: $1200 per month for a space the size of my walk in closet?? Living in NEPA may be a tad boring but I can be in Manhattan or Filthadelphia in 2 hours drive and get to live in a 3,600 sq ft home on some land.

I love how a 2 hour drive is suddenly like living next door to a major city.

how often are you zipping into the city for a day? A few times a year?

Actually I am in Manhattan or Brooklyn several times per month. For work, certainly not pleasure. The only thing I really like about the city is the food choices.


If you have to be there for work, that's completely different.
 
2014-04-04 11:01:35 AM  

JohnCarter: How much of the cost of apartments in NYC is driven by issues not specifically related to real economic supply and demand?  The real back story is that you cannot just go put up apartments if you want to build them.  So much red tape, affordable, rent controlled, and other factors there is not really a true supply and demand.


True, but, problem is, a LOT of that "red tape" is completely justified.  As someone above pointed out, there's a bunch of good reasons they made the old-style tenement housing flat-out illegal.  Fire and disease being two of the primary ones...
 
2014-04-04 11:03:30 AM  
I'd rather be below decks on a slave ship. At least they're not crammed with needy extroverts trying to see their reflected value in your interest in them.

In some places, Hell IS other people.
 
2014-04-04 11:03:39 AM  

gweilo8888: Hong Kong laughs at your huge 90 square foot condominiums:

[popupcity.net image 600x407]
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x431]


Forget Hong Kong. Manhattan has this hellhole.

thenypost.files.wordpress.com

http://nypost.com/2013/08/04/life-in-a-dog-cage-manhattans-secret-te ne ment-offers-hell-for-10-a-night/
 
2014-04-04 11:04:20 AM  
I hear only sodomites and minorities live in New York City.
 
2014-04-04 11:04:32 AM  

Yellow Beard: thornhill: Yellow Beard: $1200 per month for a space the size of my walk in closet?? Living in NEPA may be a tad boring but I can be in Manhattan or Filthadelphia in 2 hours drive and get to live in a 3,600 sq ft home on some land.

I love how a 2 hour drive is suddenly like living next door to a major city.

how often are you zipping into the city for a day? A few times a year?

Actually I am in Manhattan or Brooklyn several times per month. For work, certainly not pleasure. The only thing I really like about the city is the food choices.


Ya, but is it worth $1200 A MONTH  to live in a closet just so you can say you have the option of having Ethiopian food delivered to your door at 2am? Because that seems to be the crux of a lot
people's argument for living that way..And the ability to also spend even more money every day eating out, and doing things outside of your closet.
 
2014-04-04 11:08:19 AM  
New York City is a human puppy mill.
 
2014-04-04 11:10:54 AM  

Old and busted: tenements
New hotness: calling tenements 'studios'

Returning soon to New York:
i.imgur.com

All we need is a modern Jacob Riis to document it.

 
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