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(SeattlePI)   Felon just out of prison shoots man in the U District. The man is currently in critical condition, with doctors saying it will take time and a little luck for his U District to ever be the same again   (seattlepi.com) divider line 49
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2014-04-04 11:24:01 AM  
Was he a violent felon BEFORE prison?

That's the important question. If yes, Why was he released? If no, why was he locked up with violent felons?
 
2014-04-04 11:30:08 AM  
Spending the day in the UDist so getting a kick, etc.
 
2014-04-04 11:49:49 AM  
Barred from possessing a gun, Montgomery, 26, had served more than eight years in state prison for several violent felonies, including kidnapping and robbery.

He was barred from possessing a gun. He shot a guy with one anyway. That's all you really need to know about the effectiveness of bans.

If you had just hanged him for robbery and kidnapping no one would have been shot today. If marijuana was legal, they'd probably both be too high to move somewhere dark with funyuns. If drugs in general were legal, the 27 hooves wouldn't even have a black market to profit off of and most of those young men would be into something else evil, like prelaw.

We can fix society, but not before we stop breaking it.
 
2014-04-04 03:37:13 PM  

doglover: Was he a violent felon BEFORE prison?

That's the important question. If yes, Why was he released? If no, why was he locked up with violent felons?


Do you not considering kidnapping violent?
 
gja
2014-04-04 03:37:50 PM  
At least he didn't shoot him in 'The Castro'......
 
2014-04-04 03:42:40 PM  
For some reason I read that head line as "Fallon just out of prison shoots man...." and there was a couple of seconds of wonderful confusion.
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2014-04-04 03:42:48 PM  
One Dyson can take out 74 Hoovers.
 
2014-04-04 03:42:54 PM  

Philip J. Fry: doglover: Was he a violent felon BEFORE prison?

That's the important question. If yes, Why was he released? If no, why was he locked up with violent felons?

Do you not considering kidnapping violent?


Robbery and kidnapping. I am sure there are more convictions and charges than that. Not quite sure these folks don't just get dumped into a bucket of acid.
 
2014-04-04 03:45:00 PM  
witnesses told police that others associated with the shooting began picking up fired shell casings immediately after the gunfire ceased. They were still doing so when officers reached the scene. Those who had sheltered the shooting victim - the driver and at least one passenger in the van - fled on foot when police arrived, leaving the van behind.

Nah, that doesn't sound like gang activity at all.
 
GCD
2014-04-04 03:49:27 PM  
Both of them had guns...It just happens that the convicted felon was just quicker on the draw than the other guy was.
 
2014-04-04 03:52:51 PM  
Hows that gun ban working out for you?
 
2014-04-04 03:56:30 PM  

doglover: Was he a violent felon BEFORE prison?

That's the important question. If yes, Why was he released? If no, why was he locked up with violent felons?


I guess being the Boobies is more important than RTA.

/crosses fingers for filter pwnage
 
2014-04-04 03:56:36 PM  
Impossible.

Felons can't possess firearms.  Maybe we need another gun control law to make it SUPER illegal for felons to possess a weapon.  That will show the next guy.
 
2014-04-04 03:57:42 PM  
Prosecutors contend Montgomery is a member of the 74 Hoovers...

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2014-04-04 03:58:21 PM  
Best Princess Celestia [TotalFark]

Hows that gun ban working out for you?

About as well as the war on drugs.
 
2014-04-04 04:02:18 PM  

trippdogg: Prosecutors contend Montgomery is a member of the 74 Hoovers...

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upload.wikimedia.org

There are 74 of them
 
2014-04-04 04:07:17 PM  

Odd Bird: doglover: Was he a violent felon BEFORE prison?

That's the important question. If yes, Why was he released? If no, why was he locked up with violent felons?

I guess being the Boobies is more important than RTA.

/crosses fingers for filter pwnage


First of all, exactly
but next, after first, I hope I was also filter pwned or I'll look extra moronish today
 
2014-04-04 04:07:40 PM  

doglover: Barred from possessing a gun, Montgomery, 26, had served more than eight years in state prison for several violent felonies, including kidnapping and robbery.

He was barred from possessing a gun. He shot a guy with one anyway. That's all you really need to know about the effectiveness of bans.

If you had just hanged him for robbery and kidnapping no one would have been shot today. If marijuana was legal, they'd probably both be too high to move somewhere dark with funyuns. If drugs in general were legal, the 27 hooves wouldn't even have a black market to profit off of and most of those young men would be into something else evil, like prelaw.

We can fix society, but not before we stop breaking it.


That probably would have helped....
 
2014-04-04 04:08:21 PM  

Robin Hoodie: Odd Bird: doglover: Was he a violent felon BEFORE prison?

That's the important question. If yes, Why was he released? If no, why was he locked up with violent felons?

I guess being the Boobies is more important than RTA.

/crosses fingers for filter pwnage

First of all, exactly
but next, after first, I hope I was also filter pwned or I'll look extra moronish today


damn it
 
2014-04-04 04:09:14 PM  
Ow! My balls! U district!
 
2014-04-04 04:09:58 PM  
FTA: Court papers indicate both men may have been selling marijuana. Detectives did not opine on the true motive for the shooting.

I wonder if the victim is legally allowed to own firearms as well.
 
2014-04-04 04:10:08 PM  
The putin factor.
 
2014-04-04 04:12:38 PM  

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: The putin factor.


As in someone is putin bullets in your back?
 
2014-04-04 04:14:13 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: Hows that gun ban working out for you?


What gun ban? WA is a pretty gun-friendly state.

Or were you talking about the felon thing?
 
2014-04-04 04:16:51 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: Hows that gun ban working out for you?


Well we got a murder ban too and obviously that didn't work too well. May as well stop trying to make anything illegal.
 
2014-04-04 04:17:43 PM  
Repeal the Second Amendment.

I understand that most individual gun owners are responsible and mature adults.
But as a society, we just don't deserve it.
Someday, maybe. Not yet.
 
2014-04-04 04:19:01 PM  

AngryDragon: Impossible.

Felons can't possess firearms.  Maybe we need another gun control law to make it SUPER illegal for felons to possess a weapon.  That will show the next guy.


And this time we're super serial.
 
2014-04-04 04:23:41 PM  
Thanks, Obama.
 
2014-04-04 04:24:29 PM  

AngryDragon: Impossible.

Felons can't possess firearms.  Maybe we need another gun control law to make it SUPER illegal for felons to possess a weapon.  That will show the next guy.


lol...
 
2014-04-04 04:26:23 PM  
U mad?
 
2014-04-04 04:26:33 PM  

trippdogg: Prosecutors contend Montgomery is a member of the 74 Hoovers...

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They're anti-dust.
 
2014-04-04 04:26:36 PM  

OnlyM3: Best Princess Celestia [TotalFark]

Hows that gun ban working out for you?
About as well as the war on drugs.


Maybe we can trick the drugs into fighting the guns.
 
2014-04-04 04:27:25 PM  

GCD: Both of them had guns...It just happens that the convicted felon was just quicker on the draw than the other guy was.


We need 2 good guys with guns?  When will it end?
 
2014-04-04 04:29:16 PM  

AngryDragon: Impossible.

Felons can't are prohibited from possessing firearms.  Maybe we need another gun control law to make it SUPER illegal for felons to possess a weapon.  That will show the next guy.


FTFY

Write all the laws you want, they'll break more.
 
2014-04-04 04:32:01 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: Hows that gun ban working out for you?


First, there's no gun ban in Seattle. But, let's take your statement and consider its implications. What you've said seems to indicate that you don't think banning something works, and therefore we shouldn't bother trying to ban it.

Of course, we've banned murder, arson, theft, rape, underage drinking, bribery, drug use, speeding and a whole host of other things... yet they still occur.

So, do you believe that because a ban is not effective at totally eliminating its target, that it should not exist? I'd say we need to get to work on repealing laws against homicide to start, wouldn't you?
 
2014-04-04 04:32:14 PM  

AspectRatio: Repeal the Second Amendment.

I understand that most individual gun owners are responsible and mature adults.
But as a society, we just don't deserve it.
Someday, maybe. Not yet.


You can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Instead of going after inanimate objects used to kill people, how about we go after the people themselves and prevent them from wanting to kill other people.

Prohibition hasn't worked out too well in the past in America, it won't be any different if the 2nd Amendment gets repealed entirely.
 
2014-04-04 04:33:11 PM  

AspectRatio: Repeal the Second Amendment.

Iimg.fark.net

 
2014-04-04 04:35:02 PM  
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Is Brett Favre alright?
 
2014-04-04 04:36:42 PM  

StrikitRich: Is Brett Favre alright?


Well, some say he was overrated, but his record speaks for itself.
 
2014-04-04 04:39:38 PM  

Weatherkiss: You can't put the genie back in the bottle.


Well, you can, but you'd have to repeal the 1st and 4th amendments along with the 2nd in order to successfully gather up all the guns from the people who would still possess them illegally, and to keep a lid on the enormous public outcry. You'd also have to militarize the police even more than they are now.

After twenty years or so of that, it would be the new normal, at least. I'm sure they'd give our rights back as soon as they no longer needed to remove them.
 
gja
2014-04-04 05:13:50 PM  

AspectRatio: Repeal the Second Amendment.

I understand that most individual gun owners are responsible and mature adults.
But as a society, we just don't deserve it.
Someday, maybe. Not yet.


How about you get a clue?
Someday, maybe. But clearly not yet.
 
2014-04-04 05:48:30 PM  
I'll never understand the gang "problem".

"I am a hard core gangstah, y'unnerstan me, motherf*cker?  HARD CORE.  Violent!  Thug 4 life!"

"We understand perfectly, thanks."   *BANG*

No more gang problem.
 
2014-04-04 05:54:29 PM  

bunner: I'll never understand the gang "problem".

"I am a hard core gangstah, y'unnerstan me, motherf*cker?  HARD CORE.  Violent!  Thug 4 life!"

"We understand perfectly, thanks."   *BANG*

No more gang problem.


That's racist
 
2014-04-04 05:58:05 PM  

AngryDragon: That's racist


Really?  Why is that, then?  I thought it was more "anti-crime.
 
2014-04-04 07:51:04 PM  

Boojum2k: Weatherkiss: You can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Well, you can, but you'd have to repeal the 1st and 4th amendments along with the 2nd in order to successfully gather up all the guns from the people who would still possess them illegally, and to keep a lid on the enormous public outcry.


Maybe.  Australia placed heavy restrictions on automatic and semi-automatic firearms after a massacre in 1996.  People willingly turned their firearms in as an act of national social conscience.  Today, those types of firearms are somewhat hard to find in the country.

The interesting part is that Australia pointed to the USA as an example of what not to emulate, given our high rate of homicides and spree killings. There is something to be said about a former penal colony looking down at the lawlessness in our own country.
 
2014-04-04 07:56:23 PM  
"Just" = "five months"?
 
2014-04-04 07:57:38 PM  
Also, the other guy had a gun, too, so I'm not sure how being armed helped him. I love the bit about the shooter's buddies scurrying around, picking up shell casings.
 
2014-04-04 08:24:06 PM  

Dinjiin: Maybe. Australia placed heavy restrictions on automatic and semi-automatic firearms after a massacre in 1996. People willingly turned their firearms in as an act of national social conscience. Today, those types of firearms are somewhat hard to find in the country.


Yes, and Australia is an island nation with much different demographics, culture, and history to the U.S. and what worked there is very unlikely to work here. From your link:
We do not have a Bill of Rights or a constitutional right to bear arms.

Having a restriction put on something you never had a right to is a far stretch from demanding people give up an existing right.

The man in TFA received a gun illegally after being released from prison. How many of his cohorts do you think will give up their weapons just because it's now triply illegal for them to have them instead of just doubly? Look at Connecticut with their new gun laws. They're getting somewhere south of 25% compliance, in one of the most progressive states. Out of 200 million legally owned guns in the U.S., 25% leaves enough firepower to overwhelm every single police force in the country, local, state, and federal. When someone says they want less gun violence, but propose a solution that will lead to insurrections and a police state, it's more likely they have an irrational fear of guns than any kind of care for victims of violence. Not to mention leaving firearms in the hands of policeman like Mr. Pepperspray-happy.

It's a dumb idea to eliminate the 2nd amendment, and puts the proponents right alongside Intelligent Design/Young Earth Creationists, Flat Earthers, and other conspiracy nuts for level of critical thought.
 
2014-04-05 01:20:52 AM  

wyltoknow: Best Princess Celestia: Hows that gun ban working out for you?

Well we got a murder ban too and obviously that didn't work too well. May as well stop trying to make anything illegal.


This one.


blorpen: Best Princess Celestia: Hows that gun ban working out for you?

What gun ban? WA is a pretty gun-friendly state.

Or were you talking about the felon thing?


And this one.


Apparently people in this thread are pro-legalized murder and pro-guns for felons.  Says a lot about that type.
 
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