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2014-04-03 10:40:36 AM  
media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-03 11:02:52 AM  
So Breitbart is finally going to shut down?
 
2014-04-03 11:09:49 AM  
But what was the size of the experimentees' bank accounts?  That will help me know how I should feel about this.
 
2014-04-03 11:19:56 AM  
And there goes every manufacturer in the country...

Way to go dead moran jobkiller.
 
2014-04-03 11:25:25 AM  
Goodbye, Department of Defense.  It was nice working for you.
 
2014-04-03 11:32:19 AM  
The GOP is finally closing up shop?  good for them.
 
2014-04-03 11:35:40 AM  
That kind of article and its comments are quite brain numbing.

They've managed to reach some sort of clueless nirvana, sort of Shangra-Duh.
 
2014-04-03 11:46:49 AM  
ManateeGag [TotalFark]

The GOP is finally closing up shop? good for them.

Liberal organization.
In a far left state.
In a left leaning university.

moon-bat reply: gop wahargarble!!!
 
2014-04-03 11:50:28 AM  

www.breitbart.com

LORD PARAMOUNT OF VAPE

 
2014-04-03 11:52:51 AM  
I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.
 
2014-04-03 11:53:19 AM  
So we can finally put big oil in mothballs for good, right?
 
2014-04-03 11:55:42 AM  

OnlyM3: ManateeGag [TotalFark]

The GOP is finally closing up shop? good for them.
Liberal organization.
In a far left state.
In a left leaning university.

moon-bat reply: gop wahargarble!!!


DNRTFA, I was making a joke.  Lighten up Frances.
 
2014-04-03 11:57:05 AM  

Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.


OK - let's talk about pollutants and full disclosure. I'll go first:
Fracking companies won the right to keep secret the chemical cocktails they pump underground during shale gas drilling in North Carolina under a chemical disclosure rule approved Tuesday by the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission.
 
2014-04-03 12:00:15 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.

OK - let's talk about pollutants and full disclosure change the subject. I'll go first:
Fracking companies won the right to keep secret the chemical cocktails they pump underground during shale gas drilling in North Carolina under a chemical disclosure rule approved Tuesday by the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission.


FTFY..
 
2014-04-03 12:01:50 PM  

Lucky LaRue: DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.

OK - let's talk about pollutants and full disclosure change the subject. I'll go first:
Fracking companies won the right to keep secret the chemical cocktails they pump underground during shale gas drilling in North Carolina under a chemical disclosure rule approved Tuesday by the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission.

FTFY..


Aw - defending corporations and attacking government - aren't you adorable.
 
2014-04-03 12:06:08 PM  

Lucky LaRue: DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.

OK - let's talk about pollutants and full disclosure change the subject. I'll go first:
Fracking companies won the right to keep secret the chemical cocktails they pump underground during shale gas drilling in North Carolina under a chemical disclosure rule approved Tuesday by the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission.

FTFY..


Okay. Let's suppose you're right that the EPA should be completely shut down for the argument stated in the headline. How does that argument not also apply to companies that willfully expose people to toxic pollutants without informing them of the risks?
 
2014-04-03 12:06:44 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.

OK - let's talk about pollutants and full disclosure change the subject. I'll go first:
Fracking companies won the right to keep secret the chemical cocktails they pump underground during shale gas drilling in North Carolina under a chemical disclosure rule approved Tuesday by the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission.

FTFY..

Aw - defending corporations and attacking government - aren't you adorable.


Thanks for illustrating my point - you can't bring yourself to acknowledge the EPA failed to disclose health risks.  Instead you attack the people reporting the story, the oil and gas industry for fracking, and me for pointing out your absurdity.

This is why nobody takes you people seriously.
 
2014-04-03 12:07:08 PM  

Serious Black: Lucky LaRue: DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.

OK - let's talk about pollutants and full disclosure change the subject. I'll go first:
Fracking companies won the right to keep secret the chemical cocktails they pump underground during shale gas drilling in North Carolina under a chemical disclosure rule approved Tuesday by the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission.

FTFY..

Okay. Let's suppose you're right that the EPA should be completely shut down for the argument stated in the headline. How does that argument not also apply to companies that willfully expose people to toxic pollutants without informing them of the risks?


Because reasons, like such as, and furthermore
 
2014-04-03 12:07:26 PM  

OnlyM3: ManateeGag [TotalFark]

The GOP is finally closing up shop? good for them.
Liberal organization.
In a far left state.
In a left leaning university.

moon-bat reply: gop wahargarble!!!


cdn.breitbart.com
"I'm totally going to sleep with you."
 
2014-04-03 12:10:28 PM  

Lucky LaRue: DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.

OK - let's talk about pollutants and full disclosure change the subject. I'll go first:
Fracking companies won the right to keep secret the chemical cocktails they pump underground during shale gas drilling in North Carolina under a chemical disclosure rule approved Tuesday by the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission.

FTFY..

Aw - defending corporations and attacking government - aren't you adorable.

Thanks for illustrating my point - you can't bring yourself to acknowledge the EPA failed to disclose health risks.  Instead you attack the people reporting the story, the oil and gas industry for fracking, and me for pointing out your absurdity.

This is why nobody takes you people seriously.


What the EPA did was terrible. They should be held accountable. As should every other entity, public or private, that fails to disclose the potential danger of their activities. Happy?

Now can you admit there are lots of stories about this kind of thing coming from corporations that Breitbart and other right-leaning sites ignore in favor of attacking the government?
 
2014-04-03 12:10:46 PM  

Serious Black: Lucky LaRue: DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.

OK - let's talk about pollutants and full disclosure change the subject. I'll go first:
Fracking companies won the right to keep secret the chemical cocktails they pump underground during shale gas drilling in North Carolina under a chemical disclosure rule approved Tuesday by the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission.

FTFY..

Okay. Let's suppose you're right that the EPA should be completely shut down for the argument stated in the headline. How does that argument not also apply to companies that willfully expose people to toxic pollutants without informing them of the risks?


Uh.. just because I think the EPA should be held accountable for what it does to people doesn't mean I am making an argument for it to be shut down.

Where do you guys come up with your assumptions?
 
2014-04-03 12:11:07 PM  
Yeah, like a highly partisan site would say the same if the shoe was on the other foot
 
2014-04-03 12:21:52 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Serious Black: Lucky LaRue: DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.

OK - let's talk about pollutants and full disclosure change the subject. I'll go first:
Fracking companies won the right to keep secret the chemical cocktails they pump underground during shale gas drilling in North Carolina under a chemical disclosure rule approved Tuesday by the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission.

FTFY..

Okay. Let's suppose you're right that the EPA should be completely shut down for the argument stated in the headline. How does that argument not also apply to companies that willfully expose people to toxic pollutants without informing them of the risks?

Uh.. just because I think the EPA should be held accountable for what it does to people doesn't mean I am making an argument for it to be shut down.

Where do you guys come up with your assumptions?


That's what the headline says, that the EPA should be shut down. Regardless of that, the exact punishment is not important, so let me rephrase my question.

Let's suppose the EPA should be held accountable, whatever that entails, for willfully exposing people to toxic pollutants without informing them of the risks. How does that argument not also apply to companies that willfully expose people to toxic pollutants without informing them of the risks?
 
2014-04-03 12:30:01 PM  

Serious Black: Lucky LaRue: Serious Black: Lucky LaRue: DarwiOdrade: Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.

OK - let's talk about pollutants and full disclosure change the subject. I'll go first:
Fracking companies won the right to keep secret the chemical cocktails they pump underground during shale gas drilling in North Carolina under a chemical disclosure rule approved Tuesday by the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission.

FTFY..

Okay. Let's suppose you're right that the EPA should be completely shut down for the argument stated in the headline. How does that argument not also apply to companies that willfully expose people to toxic pollutants without informing them of the risks?

Uh.. just because I think the EPA should be held accountable for what it does to people doesn't mean I am making an argument for it to be shut down.

Where do you guys come up with your assumptions?

That's what the headline says, that the EPA should be shut down. Regardless of that, the exact punishment is not important, so let me rephrase my question.

Let's suppose the EPA should be held accountable, whatever that entails, for willfully exposing people to toxic pollutants without informing them of the risks. How does that argument not also apply to companies that willfully expose people to toxic pollutants without informing them of the risks?


Again, you let your assumptions get in the way of a clear thought process.  It is possible to criticize the EPA and not be an evil, capitalist monster, you know.   If the teabaggers and herbal teabaggers alike would understand that the world is not the pure dichotomy of good and evil their echo chambers tell them it is, we'd all be a little better off.
 
2014-04-03 12:32:42 PM  
FTFA: "Strongly edited description"? = lies?
 
2014-04-03 12:43:34 PM  
Seriously?  Someone actually thought, "Hey, let's expose kids with asthma to diesel fumes and see what happens!" was a good idea?
 
2014-04-03 12:58:47 PM  
So are we finally shutting down the tobacco industry?
 
2014-04-03 01:02:14 PM  
I don't believe they thought this argument through.
 
2014-04-03 01:03:26 PM  
the epa is a liberal organization??
 
2014-04-03 01:05:14 PM  

Serious Black: Okay. Let's suppose you're right that the EPA should be completely shut down for the argument stated in the headline. How does that argument not also apply to companies that willfully expose people to toxic pollutants without informing them of the risks?


If it were me who did it to my neighbor then I'd be prosecuted and be held liable for the cleanup.  

I guess I'd prosecute the officers of the company that exposed the population to toxic pollutants and hold the shareholders liable for the cleanup.
 
2014-04-03 01:05:55 PM  
We export every single job to the 3rd world except human guinee pig.... you just cannot explain that.
 
2014-04-03 01:06:48 PM  

timujin: Seriously?  Someone actually thought, "Hey, let's expose kids with asthma to diesel fumes and see what happens!" was a good idea?


Well, the problem is, apparently, there are people who think that regulating diesel fumes without doing such experiments is also beyond the pale.  See, the idea is that, these very dangerous fumes that the EPA exposed people to, in order to determine if more regulation was needed, should not occur, and, those very same diesel fumes, which are so dangerous, should not be regulated, because freedom, reasons and such as.
 
2014-04-03 01:07:11 PM  

Jackson Herring: the epa is a liberal organization??


It was created under the leadership of known liberal progressive Richard M. Nixon.
 
2014-04-03 01:08:40 PM  
junkscience.com

Isn't that site..well, a bunch of junk science?
 
2014-04-03 01:08:54 PM  

Lucky LaRue: herbal teabaggers


makeameme.org

It's not going to happen.
 
2014-04-03 01:10:09 PM  
Dihydrogen Monoxide? It's in the chemtrails, it's in the apples.
 
2014-04-03 01:10:21 PM  

timujin: Seriously?  Someone actually thought, "Hey, let's expose kids with asthma to diesel fumes and see what happens!" was a good idea?


Nineteen mentally retarded boys who thought they were participating in a science club in the 1940's and 1950's were actually fed radioactive milk by scientists who wanted to learn about the digestive system, The Boston Sunday Globe reported.
 
2014-04-03 01:11:49 PM  
So, in the interest of finding common-ground, we all agree: the EPA was stupid to do these experiments in the manner they did, and, industries who wish to continue to pollute should be heavily regulated by the EPA or it's equivalent so that they don't expose people to the exact same pollutants used in these experiments during the normal course of their business.  And that anyone who thinks that closing the EPA over these experiments, as many of the commenters on that article appear to be doing, are fancy lads.
 
2014-04-03 01:15:08 PM  

grumpfuff: junkscience.com

Isn't that site..well, a bunch of junk science?


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-03 01:17:08 PM  

ScaryBottles: grumpfuff: junkscience.com

Isn't that site..well, a bunch of junk science?

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x280]


I quickly scrolled thru the website and the only articles I found that weren't complaining about the EPA were complaining about how AGW is junk science.

So take that for what you will.
 
2014-04-03 01:17:48 PM  
 
2014-04-03 01:18:08 PM  
OK. How bad are the cancer risks from diesel fumes? I mean ...should we stop selling diesel? Shut down the trucking industry until they switch to gasoline? Have I been a participant in a long term (+60 year) experiment that nobody told me of?
 
2014-04-03 01:18:58 PM  

timujin: Seriously?  Someone actually thought, "Hey, let's expose kids with asthma to diesel fumes and see what happens!" was a good idea?


I dont know, someone actually thought, "Hey lets give these people syphilis and not tell them... lets see if they notice."

I really should have stayed in evil science school but I thought it was a dead end job, that ethics was stamping out the opportunities.... but no I could have had a job for a while now
 
2014-04-03 01:21:21 PM  

neversubmit: International Handbook of White-Collar and Corporate Crime

As of 2007, not a single U.S. government researcher had been prosecuted for human experimentation. Many of the victims of U.S. government experiments have not received compensation or, in many cases, acknowledgment of what was done to them.



Yeah and here's the problem.  The government should be held accountable and so should any private organization.  But often times, big business colludes with the government and they watch each others' backs.  Methinks that perhaps getting money out of politics might make our government more responsive to these concerns that most average Americans have.
 
2014-04-03 01:21:42 PM  

Saiga410: timujin: Seriously?  Someone actually thought, "Hey, let's expose kids with asthma to diesel fumes and see what happens!" was a good idea?

I dont know, someone actually thought, "Hey lets give these people syphilis and not tell them... lets see if they notice."

I really should have stayed in evil science school but I thought it was a dead end job, that ethics was stamping out the opportunities.... but no I could have had a job for a while now


I didn't go to Evil medical college for eight years to be called Mister.
 
2014-04-03 01:21:47 PM  

grumpfuff: ScaryBottles: grumpfuff: junkscience.com

Isn't that site..well, a bunch of junk science?

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x280]

I quickly scrolled thru the website and the only articles I found that weren't complaining about the EPA were complaining about how AGW is junk science.

So take that for what you will.


Oh yes. Literally junkscience.com is one of the websites my Geology professor used as an example of shoddy, result oriented academics.
 
2014-04-03 01:22:17 PM  

RyogaM: So, in the interest of finding common-ground, we all agree: the EPA was stupid to do these experiments in the manner they did, and, industries who wish to continue to pollute should be heavily regulated by the EPA or it's equivalent so that they don't expose people to the exact same pollutants used in these experiments during the normal course of their business.  And that anyone who thinks that closing the EPA over these experiments, as many of the commenters on that article appear to be doing, are fancy lads.


You forgot that the EPA is changing their policies and procedures to ensure that test subjects are safer from now on.

Breightbart and junk science really suck, and so do you if you pay attention to them without checking out what they say independently.  I have yet to see an article on either website that isn't intentionally misleading or downright lying.  I invite you to prove me wrong.
 
2014-04-03 01:23:53 PM  
Is ANY of that even true?
 
2014-04-03 01:26:57 PM  

Lucky LaRue: I like how the herbal teabaggers are completely ignoring the fact that the EPA didn't provide full disclosure and focusing on a Breitbart beat-down.  That's why I like you guys - your truly the intellectual elite.


Ha!

/but oops, better not laugh too loud at the guys who comes in hurling insults then cries to the mods when people are not being "civil" to him.....
 
2014-04-03 01:28:37 PM  

Epic Fap Session: Lucky LaRue: herbal teabaggers

[makeameme.org image 250x250]

It's not going to happen.


Come on, just the tip?
 
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