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(ABC)   Bill Clinton tells Jimmy Kimmel that after becoming president he checked out Area 51 to make sure it had no UFOS, and that he "wouldn't be surprised" if aliens existed-hot, hot, aliens with green skin and metal space bikinis, and extra boobies   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 108
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2014-04-03 01:26:48 PM  

RedPhoenix122: cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.

The aliens hate us for our freedoms!


Time to bring some freedom to Area 51.
 
2014-04-03 01:30:03 PM  
Area 52 has the real stuff

secret government operates with high proficiency and secret president keeps it running at a high level

the government we see is the bumbling incompetent  idiots we know as government workers.

all to keep the ruse going for the general public
 
2014-04-03 01:41:32 PM  

Victoly: thamike: Have you met the public?


K, have you ever flashy thingied me before?
 
2014-04-03 01:48:19 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Human history tells us again and again that we would not unite in the face of Aliens.  Rather, we would (as we have time and again) merely try to fit them into our existing patterns of alliances and rivalries, to our extreme detriment.


That's part of why I would think aliens wouldn't be secret: the first nation to become pals would threaten the rest, their words backed by alien tachyon beam weapons etc.
 
2014-04-03 01:49:36 PM  

PainInTheASP: Rev. Skarekroe: We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.

Is that what we're calling Monica Lewinski's cooter now?


i1168.photobucket.com

It could be them Dukes' cooter.
 
2014-04-03 01:54:30 PM  

mechgreg: jwa007: I have no doubt life exists on other planets.  I doubt we will ever visit those planets, that whole speed-of-light speed limit thing that keeps getting in our way; which is also why I doubt any aliens have visited us

Even if you assume another plant has figured out speed of light travel, there are a trillions of planets in our galaxy alone. On top of that our galaxy is something like 13 billion years old. We are one planet out of trillions, and our species has only been around on earth for a small percentage of that 13 billion years, so the odds of people from another planet finding our planet, and finding it during during the window of time when humans have been around has to be pretty much zero.

And even if that did happen, I would assume that a species that has figured out interstellar travel probably has some pretty good stealth technologies, that could make their spaceships essentially invisible. I mean look where we are stealth technology is, and the farthest we have ever sent someone is the moon.



But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.
 
2014-04-03 02:13:46 PM  

steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.


Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.
 
2014-04-03 02:16:22 PM  

steve_wmn: mechgreg: jwa007: I have no doubt life exists on other planets.  I doubt we will ever visit those planets, that whole speed-of-light speed limit thing that keeps getting in our way; which is also why I doubt any aliens have visited us

Even if you assume another plant has figured out speed of light travel, there are a trillions of planets in our galaxy alone. On top of that our galaxy is something like 13 billion years old. We are one planet out of trillions, and our species has only been around on earth for a small percentage of that 13 billion years, so the odds of people from another planet finding our planet, and finding it during during the window of time when humans have been around has to be pretty much zero.

And even if that did happen, I would assume that a species that has figured out interstellar travel probably has some pretty good stealth technologies, that could make their spaceships essentially invisible. I mean look where we are stealth technology is, and the farthest we have ever sent someone is the moon.


But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.


Not necessarily, with the galaxy as big as it is, you could have quite a long-lived and huge civilization but still remain relatively local.  It might not be in the interest of every life form to just multiply until you run out of resources like galaxies and stuff.

Maybe they won't find us until they think we need rescuing.  (shameless link to one of my favorite sf short stories)

http://www.baenebooks.com/chapters/0743498747/0743498747___1.htm
 
2014-04-03 02:17:32 PM  
It would be fun to find out if every president in the last few decades has at some point asked about aliens and about the Kennedy assassination (other conspiracies?). There may be a white house staff person that keeps a copy on those files handy because they know the new guy is just going to ask.
 
2014-04-03 02:20:07 PM  

jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.


Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.
 
2014-04-03 02:26:32 PM  
So he's cool with dropping a giant space squid in the middle of New York then?
 
2014-04-03 02:27:28 PM  

cman: jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.

Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.


Kirk did it to Khan and forgot all about him. Look how that turned out.
 
2014-04-03 02:27:33 PM  

cman: jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.

Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.


Worked for Australia.
 
2014-04-03 02:27:49 PM  

dittybopper: thamike: On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?

Because some of us have a higher opinion of our fellow man?


To quote the great sage, K.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. "
 
2014-04-03 02:28:38 PM  

Victoly: thamike: Have you met the public?

[edge.liveleak.com image 628x336]


*shakes tiny fist*
 
2014-04-03 02:34:16 PM  
He was hoping it would be more like this movie:

morganrlewis.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-03 02:40:40 PM  
Dude.
If there is higher intelligence out there,
and I know there is.

They would avoid us like we avoid sharks, rabid lions, and hornets.
 
2014-04-03 02:44:47 PM  

ransack.: That's the same reason I love that movie

Will Smith didn't say earf


You mean Will Smif.

/Heard that in the first run he did say Earf, but it was ADR'd out for future releases.
//Likely didn't say "Earf", but love the Lulz anyhow
///Earf
 
2014-04-03 02:53:16 PM  

cman: No, not one bit.

1. Aliens being real doesn't discount an existence of god. There is nothing in the bible that contradicts other life in the universe.

(False.  While the bible does not specifically say "there are no aliens" is is quite obviously written from the perspective that God created man and life on earth as his crowning achievement.  Finding real life on other planets absolutely kills the earth concept of "God".)
2. Governments suck at keeping secrets. If we really were talking to aliens it would have leaked out by now considering that we would have been doing it since the 1940s  (agreed.)
 
2014-04-03 02:58:12 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: ransack.: That's the same reason I love that movie

Will Smith didn't say earf

You mean Will Smif.

/Heard that in the first run he did say Earf, but it was ADR'd out for future releases.
//Likely didn't say "Earf", but love the Lulz anyhow
///Earf


He did.  Saw it in the theater day of release.  "Welcome to Earf" was absolutely what Will said.  There is a reason it's a meme, you know.  They corrected the line on all home video releases.
 
2014-04-03 02:59:39 PM  

cman: jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.

Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.


I expect that if such a scenario occurred that it wouldn't take long for those residents to descend back into earlier tech levels as their tech broke down.
 
2014-04-03 03:00:12 PM  

frepnog: Walt_Jizzney: ransack.: That's the same reason I love that movie

Will Smith didn't say earf

You mean Will Smif.

/Heard that in the first run he did say Earf, but it was ADR'd out for future releases.
//Likely didn't say "Earf", but love the Lulz anyhow
///Earf

He did.  Saw it in the theater day of release.  "Welcome to Earf" was absolutely what Will said.  There is a reason it's a meme, you know.  They corrected the line on all home video releases.


Here's a fun fact: "th" is actually more difficult to pronounce than a lot of people realize. Every Germanic language but English and Icelandic had it shift to something else.
 
2014-04-03 03:01:33 PM  

Infernalist: cman: jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.

Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.

I expect that if such a scenario occurred that it wouldn't take long for those residents to descend back into earlier tech levels as their tech broke down.


Ok, but a civilization like that would certainly have a writing system. Stones last for a long time. They would have passed on their knowledge given the chance.
 
2014-04-03 03:08:38 PM  

cman: Infernalist: cman: jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.

Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.

I expect that if such a scenario occurred that it wouldn't take long for those residents to descend back into earlier tech levels as their tech broke down.

Ok, but a civilization like that would certainly have a writing system. Stones last for a long time. They would have passed on their knowledge given the chance.


Give your average modern day schmuck a chisel and hammer and a flat piece of stone and tell them to chisel out the instructions on how to build something simple as a radio receiver as well as a schematic for one and see how that works out.
 
2014-04-03 03:11:49 PM  

PainInTheASP: Rev. Skarekroe: We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.

Is that what we're calling Monica Lewinski's cooter now?


They both have landing strips.
 
2014-04-03 03:16:26 PM  

cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.


I have to agree with you on this one and came to say something similar.  They also use these types of figureheads to distract us from their obscene abuse of power.
 
2014-04-03 03:19:11 PM  

carrion_luggage: PainInTheASP: Rev. Skarekroe: We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.

Is that what we're calling Monica Lewinski's cooter now?

They both have landing strips.


And old hangers....
 
2014-04-03 03:20:44 PM  

zarberg: Victoly: thamike: Have you met the public?

K, have you ever flashy thingied me before?


No
 
2014-04-03 03:23:17 PM  

carrion_luggage: They both have landing strips.


Very doubtful.  I'd wager it's either a barren desert or wild scrub brush.
 
2014-04-03 03:23:56 PM  

The Muthaship: carrion_luggage: PainInTheASP: Rev. Skarekroe: We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.

Is that what we're calling Monica Lewinski's cooter now?

They both have landing strips.

And old hangers....


I know I made a crack about her bush but it seems to have been disappeared.
 
2014-04-03 03:27:18 PM  
I believe there are other species out there, whether they are flying around in space or not - we simply don't have the technology to possibly see them.
As for the whole Government cover up aliens, LOL some people had to much LSD and a really bad trip.

If they wanted to show themselves, they would - I highly doubt the Govnerment could cover it up for very long.
 
2014-04-03 03:39:06 PM  

RedPhoenix122: cman: Governments suck at keeping secrets.

So much this.  This is why I don't believe in most conspiracy theories.


The Nazis kept the freaking holocaust a secret. They burned down the Riechstag, blamed it on communists and everyone in the country believed it. The U.S. kept the Manhattan project a secret, while detonating nuclear tests in the desert. And you guys think a government can't cover up the recovery of a measly little spaceship?
 
2014-04-03 03:43:37 PM  

Triumph: RedPhoenix122: cman: Governments suck at keeping secrets.

So much this.  This is why I don't believe in most conspiracy theories.

The Nazis kept the freaking holocaust a secret. They burned down the Riechstag, blamed it on communists and everyone in the country believed it. The U.S. kept the Manhattan project a secret, while detonating nuclear tests in the desert. And you guys think a government can't cover up the recovery of a measly little spaceship?


And kept it a secret for 70 years? Someone would have talked by now.
 
2014-04-03 03:46:07 PM  

Triumph: RedPhoenix122: cman: Governments suck at keeping secrets.

So much this.  This is why I don't believe in most conspiracy theories.

The Nazis kept the freaking holocaust a secret. They burned down the Riechstag, blamed it on communists and everyone in the country believed it. The U.S. kept the Manhattan project a secret, while detonating nuclear tests in the desert. And you guys think a government can't cover up the recovery of a measly little spaceship?


No, we think the government can't cover up the existence of an alien race that would surely follow up on a single measly little lost spaceship.  We also find it kind of incredible that a single ship would just happen to come into exclusive US control, with nothing else ever.  And just ONE of the multitude of idiotic UFO reports would check out.  Just one.

Not to mention that if it existed, our space program and electronics progress wouldn't have taken nearly so long to have progressed as little as they have.  Every damn thing we have is very traceable to human invention.  It would require a global conspiracy to hide details and manufacture discoveries.  You really have to be an Art Bell kind of person not to laugh.
 
2014-04-03 03:50:54 PM  

cman: And kept it a secret for 70 years? Someone would have talked by now.


People HAVE!! And at the National Press Club. Ex-Canadian defense minister, ex-Apollo astronaut, ex-high ranking military, ex-US contractors.
 
2014-04-03 03:54:18 PM  
Just saying, but I suspect Buzz Aldrin would like to punch you in the face.  :)
 
2014-04-03 03:55:47 PM  

Triumph: cman: And kept it a secret for 70 years? Someone would have talked by now.

People HAVE!! And at the National Press Club. Ex-Canadian defense minister, ex-Apollo astronaut, ex-high ranking military, ex-US contractors.


I am too sober for this shiat.

I'll come back later to continue this conversation.
 
2014-04-03 03:59:56 PM  

Far Cough: Just saying, but I suspect Buzz Aldrin would like to punch you in the face.  :)


Buzz Aldrin claimed a freaking UFO was following Apollo 11!
 
2014-04-03 04:02:43 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Give your average modern day schmuck a chisel and hammer and a flat piece of stone and tell them to chisel out the instructions on how to build something simple as a radio receiver as well as a schematic for one and see how that works out.


I could do it, no problemo.  Simple crystal set shouldn't be a problem to explain.  He'll, I'll even throw in the instructions to make a spark-gap transmitter in the deal.

One of the neat "what ifs" is that they had the necessary technology to build radios back in Roman times, they just didn't have the theory.

Think about it.

What do you need to build a relatively simple crystal set and spark-gap transmitter?  Well, you need metal wire (they had that).  You need some sort of crystal, like galena, that they could use to make a cat's whisker detector.  Earphone is really just coiled wire around an iron slug that's attached to a membrane.

Same with the transmitter, all the stuff necessary to make it was available.  Glass and metal foil to make capacitors.  Coiled metal wire for inductors.  Wire and iron to make transformers.  Metal for the spark gap.  The only real issue here is electrical current (crystal receiver doesn't need it).  For that, you could build some kind of generator, or just a bunch of batteries.   They had sulfuric acid, and could have easily made batteries if they knew how.

So, you want to be rich?  Go back to Roman times and set up the Emperor with a means to instantaneously communicate with the far reaches of the empire.
 
2014-04-03 04:09:04 PM  

Far Cough: Just saying, but I suspect Buzz Aldrin would like to punch you in the face.  :)


Although he did later say he thought it was probably one of the panels that covered the command module.
 
2014-04-03 04:20:22 PM  

dittybopper: Dingleberry Dickwad: Give your average modern day schmuck a chisel and hammer and a flat piece of stone and tell them to chisel out the instructions on how to build something simple as a radio receiver as well as a schematic for one and see how that works out.

I could do it, no problemo.  Simple crystal set shouldn't be a problem to explain.  He'll, I'll even throw in the instructions to make a spark-gap transmitter in the deal.

One of the neat "what ifs" is that they had the necessary technology to build radios back in Roman times, they just didn't have the theory.

Think about it.

What do you need to build a relatively simple crystal set and spark-gap transmitter?  Well, you need metal wire (they had that).  You need some sort of crystal, like galena, that they could use to make a cat's whisker detector.  Earphone is really just coiled wire around an iron slug that's attached to a membrane.

Same with the transmitter, all the stuff necessary to make it was available.  Glass and metal foil to make capacitors.  Coiled metal wire for inductors.  Wire and iron to make transformers.  Metal for the spark gap.  The only real issue here is electrical current (crystal receiver doesn't need it).  For that, you could build some kind of generator, or just a bunch of batteries.   They had sulfuric acid, and could have easily made batteries if they knew how.

So, you want to be rich?  Go back to Roman times and set up the Emperor with a means to instantaneously communicate with the far reaches of the empire.


I said your average schmuck, not a Ham nut who also happens to make his own stone arrowheads silly! I know your basic radio is actually quite simple if you know what the main components are, and someone who works with stone can figure out how to chisel out said instructions and so forth. But just for the sake of argument we originated as the "B" ark, or interplanetary prisoners just dropped off to die like Australians back in the day, or even your basic crewmember from the Battlestar Galactica that chucked all their tech. Take your average person in that situation and have them chisel out the instructions and schematics for all the major tech they can remember without any of the tools they're used to.
 
2014-04-03 04:27:33 PM  
Yes, he also said under oath he did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky .... so just because he says it does not mean it's true.
 
2014-04-03 04:34:36 PM  

cman: I am too sober for this shiat.

I'll come back later to continue this conversation.


This was you sober?
 
2014-04-03 04:39:35 PM  

Triumph: cman: And kept it a secret for 70 years? Someone would have talked by now.

People HAVE!! And at the National Press Club. Ex-Canadian defense minister, ex-Apollo astronaut, ex-high ranking military, ex-US contractors.


I think the most compelling one to come forward to me was Lieutenant Walter Haut's deathbed confession, left in the form of a sworn affidavit. That seems completely unnecessary unless you really want to get something off your chest.

That and the Travis Walton story. In his case, sure, he could be lying, but 35 some years later, he and all the guys he was with still tell the same story.
 
2014-04-03 04:49:22 PM  

thamike: this increasingly divided world of ours

I appreciate dramatic flourish in one's soundbites, but this one is getting really tiresome.  First of all it's the opposite of the truth. Secondly, it's completely meaningless.


Look at how well House Republicans get along with that niBONG in the White House and reconsider how "opposite of the truth" the statement is.

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Actually when it comes to area 51 conspiracies I'm fairly certain that the government originally promoted some of the theories. What better way to hide aircraft testing than having some nutbags swear that it was aliens? One of the first jet plane test pilots flew with a gorilla mask and bowler hat so that nobody would believe the them when they reported the sighting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Woolams


I'm sure they did, but some of it definitely had a life of its own.  The thing about test aircraft is they use technology that is largely unknown to the public, including the side effects of that technology.

A real example I heard from one of my Mom's aerospace contacts: when the military started developing aircraft using carbon fiber rather than metal the test aircraft had a habit of, well, disintegrating on impact in a crash.  Rather than a hunk of twisted metal you'd largely get a bunch of dust and maybe some foot-ish long scraps of carbon fiber, plus whatever have-to-be-metal bits were involved.  You can imagine how confusing that would be for a civilian to see who hadn't heard of carbon fiber and all its amazing capabilities.

What wound up being the truly alarming thing though wasn't the lack of visible wreckage so much as the dust.  Like I said, in a crash what was often left behind was some comparatively small bits of wreckage and dust in the air, and since that dust was formerly carbon fiber it was essentially graphite dust, and quite a lot of it.  Now just to remind you, many forms of carbon, including carbon fiber and graphite, conduct electricity really really well.  With that fresh in your mind, picture what happened the first time some curious civilian drove up to a crash site.

Barely any wreckage.  No standard airplane markings.  Very little that resembles a recognizable part from a civilian or commercial aircraft.  The largest portions of wreckage are not metal, and are instead some kind of material you probably don't recognize: impossibly lightweight, nearly pitch black, no seams or rivets, and wholly unfazed by the heat from the crash.  Confused, you go back to your car to go for help, or maybe go get a friend, or quite possibly get the hell out of there in case someone comes after the wreckage.  You turn the key and... nothing.  Absolutely nothing, not even battery, despite the car having run just fine on the way up.  Then you notice your watch (electric) has stopped too.  And your flashlight stops working.  Then, in the distance, you see a dozen headlights heading in your direction from the nearby military base, at which point you wisely decide to farking run the hell away on foot.  When you finally return, if you return yourself, the wreckage is all gone and your vehicle starts like nothing happened.

You can imagine how someone who had that experience might have a tough time believing that it was a simple carbon fiber aircraft crash that caused all the weirdness, rather than some mysterious Alien Dampening Field that went away when the military took away the wreckage.

steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology? To follow some bullshiat prime directive? That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.


On the contrary, it's just a logical extension of how anthropologists and zoologists behave when examining new cultures or species.  Responsible anthropologists will go to great lengths to avoid even making their presence known to primitive cultures if they think it might damage the culture in question.  It's not too farfetched to think a spacefaring race capable of interstellar travel might do the same if they happened across a comparatively primitive society like ours.
 
2014-04-03 04:49:30 PM  
internut scholar:

I think the most compelling one to come forward to me was Lieutenant Walter Haut's deathbed confession, left in the form of a sworn affidavit. That seems completely unnecessary unless you really want to get something off your chest.


Except that according to the Wikipedias, he did the affidavit 3 years before his death, not on his 'deathbed'.  And at the time he was already in the business of UFOlogy and had been for years.

...and that's as much as I care to dip my toe in the crazy today.  Have a good night.
 
2014-04-03 04:51:49 PM  

dittybopper: Dingleberry Dickwad: Give your average modern day schmuck a chisel and hammer and a flat piece of stone and tell them to chisel out the instructions on how to build something simple as a radio receiver as well as a schematic for one and see how that works out.

I could do it, no problemo.  Simple crystal set shouldn't be a problem to explain.  He'll, I'll even throw in the instructions to make a spark-gap transmitter in the deal.

One of the neat "what ifs" is that they had the necessary technology to build radios back in Roman times, they just didn't have the theory.

Think about it.

What do you need to build a relatively simple crystal set and spark-gap transmitter?  Well, you need metal wire (they had that).  You need some sort of crystal, like galena, that they could use to make a cat's whisker detector.  Earphone is really just coiled wire around an iron slug that's attached to a membrane.

Same with the transmitter, all the stuff necessary to make it was available.  Glass and metal foil to make capacitors.  Coiled metal wire for inductors.  Wire and iron to make transformers.  Metal for the spark gap.  The only real issue here is electrical current (crystal receiver doesn't need it).  For that, you could build some kind of generator, or just a bunch of batteries.   They had sulfuric acid, and could have easily made batteries if they knew how.

So, you want to be rich?  Go back to Roman times and set up the Emperor with a means to instantaneously communicate with the far reaches of the empire.


Never heard of the Baghdad Batteries, eh?
 
2014-04-03 04:52:35 PM  

steve_wmn: mechgreg: jwa007: I have no doubt life exists on other planets.  I doubt we will ever visit those planets, that whole speed-of-light speed limit thing that keeps getting in our way; which is also why I doubt any aliens have visited us

Even if you assume another plant has figured out speed of light travel, there are a trillions of planets in our galaxy alone. On top of that our galaxy is something like 13 billion years old. We are one planet out of trillions, and our species has only been around on earth for a small percentage of that 13 billion years, so the odds of people from another planet finding our planet, and finding it during during the window of time when humans have been around has to be pretty much zero.

And even if that did happen, I would assume that a species that has figured out interstellar travel probably has some pretty good stealth technologies, that could make their spaceships essentially invisible. I mean look where we are stealth technology is, and the farthest we have ever sent someone is the moon.


But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.


This makes no sense. We humans could be the first species to reach our level of intelligence. Or the ones who beat us our only a little ways ahead and nowhere near universe colonization.

Dozens of intelligent species could be killed off by meteors and such, developed too close to a pending solar change that gets rid of them, etc.

We have no idea how lucky we may be.
 
2014-04-03 04:59:14 PM  

xaks: dittybopper: Dingleberry Dickwad: Give your average modern day schmuck a chisel and hammer and a flat piece of stone and tell them to chisel out the instructions on how to build something simple as a radio receiver as well as a schematic for one and see how that works out.

I could do it, no problemo.  Simple crystal set shouldn't be a problem to explain.  He'll, I'll even throw in the instructions to make a spark-gap transmitter in the deal.

One of the neat "what ifs" is that they had the necessary technology to build radios back in Roman times, they just didn't have the theory.

Think about it.

What do you need to build a relatively simple crystal set and spark-gap transmitter?  Well, you need metal wire (they had that).  You need some sort of crystal, like galena, that they could use to make a cat's whisker detector.  Earphone is really just coiled wire around an iron slug that's attached to a membrane.

Same with the transmitter, all the stuff necessary to make it was available.  Glass and metal foil to make capacitors.  Coiled metal wire for inductors.  Wire and iron to make transformers.  Metal for the spark gap.  The only real issue here is electrical current (crystal receiver doesn't need it).  For that, you could build some kind of generator, or just a bunch of batteries.   They had sulfuric acid, and could have easily made batteries if they knew how.

So, you want to be rich?  Go back to Roman times and set up the Emperor with a means to instantaneously communicate with the far reaches of the empire.

Never heard of the Baghdad Batteries, eh?


They didn't provide enough juice to power a transmitter. A small receiver maybe, but not enough for a transmitter.
 
2014-04-03 05:01:10 PM  

RedPhoenix122: cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.

The aliens hate us for our freedoms!



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