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(ABC)   Bill Clinton tells Jimmy Kimmel that after becoming president he checked out Area 51 to make sure it had no UFOS, and that he "wouldn't be surprised" if aliens existed-hot, hot, aliens with green skin and metal space bikinis, and extra boobies   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 108
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2014-04-03 10:26:17 AM  
We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.
 
2014-04-03 10:30:20 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.


Is that what we're calling Monica Lewinski's cooter now?
 
2014-04-03 10:30:46 AM  
I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.
 
2014-04-03 10:44:45 AM  

cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.


The aliens hate us for our freedoms!
 
2014-04-03 10:49:06 AM  
this increasingly divided world of ours

I appreciate dramatic flourish in one's soundbites, but this one is getting really tiresome.  First of all it's the opposite of the truth. Secondly, it's completely meaningless.
 
2014-04-03 10:53:14 AM  
C'mon, people.  Bill was just figuring that UFOs would be carrying illegal aliens who could get amnesty.  They always vote Democrat.
 
2014-04-03 10:53:51 AM  

cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.


Are you saying President Clarke is actually in league with the Shadows and just using the threat posed by them curtail freedoms and shore up his unpopular regime?


/JMS was a farking prophet sometimes
 
2014-04-03 10:54:13 AM  

cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.


There's the sense you were looking for.  Exchange "governments" with "religious leaders" and you have enough of an idea as to why, in the event of alien life being confirmed, a bunch of very powerful people wouldn't want the public to know about it.

On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?  Hell, why would the aliens want the public to know about it?  Have you met the public?

Is this starting to make sense to you?
 
2014-04-03 10:55:47 AM  

Magorn: cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.

Are you saying President Clarke is actually in league with the Shadows and just using the threat posed by them curtail freedoms and shore up his unpopular regime?


/JMS was a farking prophet sometimes


I've been very concerned about his new "Scorched Earth" policy.
 
2014-04-03 10:58:23 AM  

thamike: On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?


Because some of us have a higher opinion of our fellow man?
 
2014-04-03 11:00:28 AM  

thamike: cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.

There's the sense you were looking for.  Exchange "governments" with "religious leaders" and you have enough of an idea as to why, in the event of alien life being confirmed, a bunch of very powerful people wouldn't want the public to know about it.

On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?  Hell, why would the aliens want the public to know about it?  Have you met the public?

Is this starting to make sense to you?


No, not one bit.

1. Aliens being real doesn't discount an existence of god. There is nothing in the bible that contradicts other life in the universe.
2. Governments suck at keeping secrets. If we really were talking to aliens it would have leaked out by now considering that we would have been doing it since the 1940s
 
2014-04-03 11:01:13 AM  

dittybopper: thamike: On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?

Because some of us have a higher opinion of our fellow man?


Then WTF are you doing here?????
 
2014-04-03 11:12:49 AM  

cman: Governments suck at keeping secrets.


So much this.  This is why I don't believe in most conspiracy theories.
 
2014-04-03 11:13:29 AM  

cman: thamike: cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.

There's the sense you were looking for.  Exchange "governments" with "religious leaders" and you have enough of an idea as to why, in the event of alien life being confirmed, a bunch of very powerful people wouldn't want the public to know about it.

On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?  Hell, why would the aliens want the public to know about it?  Have you met the public?

Is this starting to make sense to you?

No, not one bit.

1. Aliens being real doesn't discount an existence of god. There is nothing in the bible that contradicts other life in the universe.
2. Governments suck at keeping secrets. If we really were talking to aliens it would have leaked out by now considering that we would have been doing it since the 1940s


If and when we discover intelligent life out among the stars, I believe that psychologically at least, our entire world changes overnight,   Whatever our competing ideologies, religions etc differ on, the suddenly pale in comparison to concept of facing a possibly hostile universe where we are no long obviously the ultimate endgame of evolution.  Nations would not cease to exist overnight and fanatics of all stripes would endure, but, by and large that would be the day when we stopped being American or Chinese or Muslim or Buddhist and just stated being  human
 
2014-04-03 11:16:23 AM  

Magorn: If and when we discover intelligent life out among the stars, I believe that psychologically at least, our entire world changes overnight,   Whatever our competing ideologies, religions etc differ on, the suddenly pale in comparison to concept of facing a possibly hostile universe where we are no long obviously the ultimate endgame of evolution.  Nations would not cease to exist overnight and fanatics of all stripes would endure, but, by and large that would be the day when we stopped being American or Chinese or Muslim or Buddhist and just stated being  human


Yes, why hate those slightly different than us when we can hate those that are very different.
 
2014-04-03 11:27:30 AM  

cman: thamike: cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.

There's the sense you were looking for.  Exchange "governments" with "religious leaders" and you have enough of an idea as to why, in the event of alien life being confirmed, a bunch of very powerful people wouldn't want the public to know about it.

On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?  Hell, why would the aliens want the public to know about it?  Have you met the public?

Is this starting to make sense to you?

No, not one bit.

1. Aliens being real doesn't discount an existence of god. There is nothing in the bible that contradicts other life in the universe.
2. Governments suck at keeping secrets. If we really were talking to aliens it would have leaked out by now considering that we would have been doing it since the 1940s


I wasn't giving you reasons why there are alien conspiracies.  I was giving you reasons why people would get the idea that a government would try to hide it from the public.  That was the reasoning you seemed to be having trouble with.

And if you think the major religious and government leaders of the Earth would have no reason to feel threatened by the entire world knowing about a higher power from another planet, you've been smoking toxic chemicals.  The Bible has f*ck-all to do with it, just like always.
 
2014-04-03 11:31:48 AM  

Magorn: but, by and large that would be the day when we stopped being American or Chinese or Muslim or Buddhist and just stated being  human


I really doubt people would doff their individuality and culture just because Hubble saw some city lights on Planet XJ-12. Wouldn't happen for influenza, world war or zombies--not gonna happen for little green men.

Space exploration, however, won't exist unless it's a globally united effort.
 
2014-04-03 11:34:14 AM  

elvisaintdead: dittybopper: thamike: On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?

Because some of us have a higher opinion of our fellow man?

Then WTF are you doing here?????


Slumming.
 
2014-04-03 11:35:10 AM  

thamike: cman: thamike: cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.

There's the sense you were looking for.  Exchange "governments" with "religious leaders" and you have enough of an idea as to why, in the event of alien life being confirmed, a bunch of very powerful people wouldn't want the public to know about it.

On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?  Hell, why would the aliens want the public to know about it?  Have you met the public?

Is this starting to make sense to you?

No, not one bit.

1. Aliens being real doesn't discount an existence of god. There is nothing in the bible that contradicts other life in the universe.
2. Governments suck at keeping secrets. If we really were talking to aliens it would have leaked out by now considering that we would have been doing it since the 1940s

I wasn't giving you reasons why there are alien conspiracies.  I was giving you reasons why people would get the idea that a government would try to hide it from the public.  That was the reasoning you seemed to be having trouble with.

And if you think the major religious and government leaders of the Earth would have no reason to feel threatened by the entire world knowing about a higher power from another planet, you've been smoking toxic chemicals.  The Bible has f*ck-all to do with it, just like always.


Danke for your elaboration. I thought you were being wholesale serious conspiracy nuts.
 
2014-04-03 11:41:37 AM  
That's the same reason I love that movie

Will Smith didn't say earf
 
2014-04-03 11:43:56 AM  

RedPhoenix122: cman: Governments suck at keeping secrets.

So much this.  This is why I don't believe in most conspiracy theories.


Yup I knew about the nukes in July of 43
 
2014-04-03 11:48:46 AM  
And if there's one person on this planet you can trust,

it's bill clinton.
 
2014-04-03 11:59:03 AM  

OnlyM3: And if there's one person on this planet you can trust,

it's bill clinton.


Yeah, he's probably one of the most trustworthy Presidents we've had in my lifetime. Did you believe GW Bush?
 
2014-04-03 11:59:50 AM  
And I watched that interview and it made me laugh. Finally Kimmel asked a question that I'd ask a living ex-president.

Clinton: "It's not like Independence Day!"
 
2014-04-03 12:09:13 PM  
Politics tab is over there ----->
 
2014-04-03 12:09:32 PM  

cman: Aliens being real doesn't discount an existence of god.


It discounts the entire literal interpretation of Genesis though, which to be fair, so does current reality.
 
2014-04-03 12:10:25 PM  

bluorangefyre: Politics tab is over there ----->


Please. This a Bill Clinton thread. American right-wingers are STILL furious he's a popular and beloved ex-President akin to their god Reagan.
 
2014-04-03 12:16:36 PM  

PainInTheASP: Rev. Skarekroe: We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.

Is that what we're calling Monica Lewinski's cooter now?


It's Air Coochie One when the President is riding it.
 
2014-04-03 12:17:06 PM  

cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.


One thing is certain we have always been at war with Alpha Centauri.
 
2014-04-03 12:18:14 PM  
Haven't seen the video but I hope he was joking.  Bill is too smart for "ooga booga aliens".

Right... an extraterrestrial intelligence finds our little corner and magically respects the artificial construct we call government, to the point that no one else ever finds out.

i202.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-03 12:20:34 PM  
I have no doubt life exists on other planets.  I doubt we will ever visit those planets, that whole speed-of-light speed limit thing that keeps getting in our way; which is also why I doubt any aliens have visited us.  I think if we confined ourselves to a plan to get better acquainted with our own solar system we might find some amazing things out there.  As for Bill, always a pleasure to see him out and about.
 
2014-04-03 12:20:40 PM  
That was a pretty funny vid. Poor old Bill looks like he needs a cheeseburger or two though.
 
2014-04-03 12:22:53 PM  

dittybopper: elvisaintdead: dittybopper: thamike: On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?

Because some of us have a higher opinion of our fellow man?

Then WTF are you doing here?????

Slumming.


Kind of nice break in the day, isn't it?
 
2014-04-03 12:25:32 PM  
I wouldn't be surprised if aliens existed.

I would be surprised if they were close enough to visit.

I assume, perhaps incorrectly, that extinction odds for a species approach zero at a certain point of technology and science advancement though.

Once you get set up in a second solar system you should be good to go I would think.
 
2014-04-03 12:41:21 PM  

jwa007: I have no doubt life exists on other planets.  I doubt we will ever visit those planets, that whole speed-of-light speed limit thing that keeps getting in our way; which is also why I doubt any aliens have visited us


Even if you assume another plant has figured out speed of light travel, there are a trillions of planets in our galaxy alone. On top of that our galaxy is something like 13 billion years old. We are one planet out of trillions, and our species has only been around on earth for a small percentage of that 13 billion years, so the odds of people from another planet finding our planet, and finding it during during the window of time when humans have been around has to be pretty much zero.

And even if that did happen, I would assume that a species that has figured out interstellar travel probably has some pretty good stealth technologies, that could make their spaceships essentially invisible. I mean look where we are stealth technology is, and the farthest we have ever sent someone is the moon.
 
2014-04-03 12:41:55 PM  

Smackledorfer: I wouldn't be surprised if aliens existed.

I would be surprised if they were close enough to visit.

I assume, perhaps incorrectly, that extinction odds for a species approach zero at a certain point of technology and science advancement though.

Once you get set up in a second solar system you should be good to go I would think.


This.

With the universe being essentially infinite, I'd be surprised if intelligent life didn't exist somewhere out there.

I'm very doubtful that they're coming to Earth, mutilating cattle and probing hillbillies.
 
2014-04-03 12:45:59 PM  
Actually when it comes to area 51 conspiracies I'm fairly certain that the government originally promoted some of the theories. What better way to hide aircraft testing than having some nutbags swear that it was aliens? One of the first jet plane test pilots flew with a gorilla mask and bowler hat so that nobody would believe the them when they reported the sighting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Woolams
 
2014-04-03 12:46:34 PM  

thamike: Have you met the public?


edge.liveleak.com
 
2014-04-03 12:47:02 PM  
Human history tells us again and again that we would not unite in the face of Aliens.  Rather, we would (as we have time and again) merely try to fit them into our existing patterns of alliances and rivalries, to our extreme detriment.
 
2014-04-03 12:47:44 PM  
The ABC News clip with the music singing "Skinny, so skinny"...is that real? Is that where we are in network news? Wow.
 
2014-04-03 12:52:06 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Human history tells us again and again that we would not unite in the face of Aliens.  Rather, we would (as we have time and again) merely try to fit them into our existing patterns of alliances and rivalries, to our extreme detriment.


Examples please.
 
2014-04-03 12:53:27 PM  
Really......

img.fark.net

Fine. I'll post it then.
 
2014-04-03 12:55:00 PM  
Alien warlords.
 
2014-04-03 12:55:12 PM  
Yeah, most intelligent people wouldn't be surprised to find out that aliens exist. It doesn't mean that they're living among us. Incidentally, the converse is true, it doesn't mean that they AREN'T living among us either. Doesn't matter to me really.

All hail Ming!!

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-03 01:04:13 PM  
hot, aliens with green skin and metal space bikinis, and extra boobies... and most importantly, SWALLOW!!!
 
2014-04-03 01:09:19 PM  
New alien idea:

This time they come from a planet that only has 12 hour days and their year is only 165 days long, so when they are hanging out they get tired all the time and fall asleep a lot. And they grow old super fast while visiting.

not sure if that makes sense but there you go..
 
2014-04-03 01:10:22 PM  
"It may be the only way to unite this increasingly divided world of ours ... think about all the differences among people of Earth would seem small if we feel threatened by a space invader," Clinton said.

Actually, it may be different than that. We may unite because our scope has gone from global to celestial. When we have all of these petty borders and divisions and then our new neighbors turn out to be light-years away, our thinking may change, and we may actually put things in a different perspective. For example, what would Moldovia matter when we have solar systems or galaxies in our new view?

Of course, I also wonder what might have happened if we had continents that were closer together and major geographical divisions(such as mountain ranges and deserts) at the fringes? If we didn't have geographic borders in the first place, we may not have started down this road. If all of the people were more or less in the same general area, and there wasn't a lot of different places to go and isolate yourself and declare a "territory", we might have gotten a lot further with our major cultural and scientific advancements.
 
2014-04-03 01:20:17 PM  
I remember this from shortly after he was elected.  There was a news story that he'd asked "the powers that be" if we had any aliens or info on UFOs.  He took some flak for it, but that would be one of the first things I'd ask, too.
 
2014-04-03 01:22:37 PM  

Kid Shelleen: I remember this from shortly after he was elected.  There was a news story that he'd asked "the powers that be" if we had any aliens or info on UFOs.  He took some flak for it, but that would be one of the first things I'd ask, too.


It's not his fault.

Those f*ckers had been landing in Arkansas on the regular since he was a kid.

His constituents demanded answers!

/simple ones, if possible
//and some Preparation H.....
 
2014-04-03 01:22:37 PM  
The last unidentified flying object Bill Clinton took part in ended up on Monica's dress.
 
2014-04-03 01:26:48 PM  

RedPhoenix122: cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.

The aliens hate us for our freedoms!


Time to bring some freedom to Area 51.
 
2014-04-03 01:30:03 PM  
Area 52 has the real stuff

secret government operates with high proficiency and secret president keeps it running at a high level

the government we see is the bumbling incompetent  idiots we know as government workers.

all to keep the ruse going for the general public
 
2014-04-03 01:41:32 PM  

Victoly: thamike: Have you met the public?


K, have you ever flashy thingied me before?
 
2014-04-03 01:48:19 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Human history tells us again and again that we would not unite in the face of Aliens.  Rather, we would (as we have time and again) merely try to fit them into our existing patterns of alliances and rivalries, to our extreme detriment.


That's part of why I would think aliens wouldn't be secret: the first nation to become pals would threaten the rest, their words backed by alien tachyon beam weapons etc.
 
2014-04-03 01:49:36 PM  

PainInTheASP: Rev. Skarekroe: We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.

Is that what we're calling Monica Lewinski's cooter now?


i1168.photobucket.com

It could be them Dukes' cooter.
 
2014-04-03 01:54:30 PM  

mechgreg: jwa007: I have no doubt life exists on other planets.  I doubt we will ever visit those planets, that whole speed-of-light speed limit thing that keeps getting in our way; which is also why I doubt any aliens have visited us

Even if you assume another plant has figured out speed of light travel, there are a trillions of planets in our galaxy alone. On top of that our galaxy is something like 13 billion years old. We are one planet out of trillions, and our species has only been around on earth for a small percentage of that 13 billion years, so the odds of people from another planet finding our planet, and finding it during during the window of time when humans have been around has to be pretty much zero.

And even if that did happen, I would assume that a species that has figured out interstellar travel probably has some pretty good stealth technologies, that could make their spaceships essentially invisible. I mean look where we are stealth technology is, and the farthest we have ever sent someone is the moon.



But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.
 
2014-04-03 02:13:46 PM  

steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.


Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.
 
2014-04-03 02:16:22 PM  

steve_wmn: mechgreg: jwa007: I have no doubt life exists on other planets.  I doubt we will ever visit those planets, that whole speed-of-light speed limit thing that keeps getting in our way; which is also why I doubt any aliens have visited us

Even if you assume another plant has figured out speed of light travel, there are a trillions of planets in our galaxy alone. On top of that our galaxy is something like 13 billion years old. We are one planet out of trillions, and our species has only been around on earth for a small percentage of that 13 billion years, so the odds of people from another planet finding our planet, and finding it during during the window of time when humans have been around has to be pretty much zero.

And even if that did happen, I would assume that a species that has figured out interstellar travel probably has some pretty good stealth technologies, that could make their spaceships essentially invisible. I mean look where we are stealth technology is, and the farthest we have ever sent someone is the moon.


But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.


Not necessarily, with the galaxy as big as it is, you could have quite a long-lived and huge civilization but still remain relatively local.  It might not be in the interest of every life form to just multiply until you run out of resources like galaxies and stuff.

Maybe they won't find us until they think we need rescuing.  (shameless link to one of my favorite sf short stories)

http://www.baenebooks.com/chapters/0743498747/0743498747___1.htm
 
2014-04-03 02:17:32 PM  
It would be fun to find out if every president in the last few decades has at some point asked about aliens and about the Kennedy assassination (other conspiracies?). There may be a white house staff person that keeps a copy on those files handy because they know the new guy is just going to ask.
 
2014-04-03 02:20:07 PM  

jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.


Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.
 
2014-04-03 02:26:32 PM  
So he's cool with dropping a giant space squid in the middle of New York then?
 
2014-04-03 02:27:28 PM  

cman: jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.

Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.


Kirk did it to Khan and forgot all about him. Look how that turned out.
 
2014-04-03 02:27:33 PM  

cman: jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.

Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.


Worked for Australia.
 
2014-04-03 02:27:49 PM  

dittybopper: thamike: On the flipside, why would any responsible person want the entire public to know about it?

Because some of us have a higher opinion of our fellow man?


To quote the great sage, K.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. "
 
2014-04-03 02:28:38 PM  

Victoly: thamike: Have you met the public?

[edge.liveleak.com image 628x336]


*shakes tiny fist*
 
2014-04-03 02:34:16 PM  
He was hoping it would be more like this movie:

morganrlewis.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-03 02:40:40 PM  
Dude.
If there is higher intelligence out there,
and I know there is.

They would avoid us like we avoid sharks, rabid lions, and hornets.
 
2014-04-03 02:44:47 PM  

ransack.: That's the same reason I love that movie

Will Smith didn't say earf


You mean Will Smif.

/Heard that in the first run he did say Earf, but it was ADR'd out for future releases.
//Likely didn't say "Earf", but love the Lulz anyhow
///Earf
 
2014-04-03 02:53:16 PM  

cman: No, not one bit.

1. Aliens being real doesn't discount an existence of god. There is nothing in the bible that contradicts other life in the universe.

(False.  While the bible does not specifically say "there are no aliens" is is quite obviously written from the perspective that God created man and life on earth as his crowning achievement.  Finding real life on other planets absolutely kills the earth concept of "God".)
2. Governments suck at keeping secrets. If we really were talking to aliens it would have leaked out by now considering that we would have been doing it since the 1940s  (agreed.)
 
2014-04-03 02:58:12 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: ransack.: That's the same reason I love that movie

Will Smith didn't say earf

You mean Will Smif.

/Heard that in the first run he did say Earf, but it was ADR'd out for future releases.
//Likely didn't say "Earf", but love the Lulz anyhow
///Earf


He did.  Saw it in the theater day of release.  "Welcome to Earf" was absolutely what Will said.  There is a reason it's a meme, you know.  They corrected the line on all home video releases.
 
2014-04-03 02:59:39 PM  

cman: jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.

Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.


I expect that if such a scenario occurred that it wouldn't take long for those residents to descend back into earlier tech levels as their tech broke down.
 
2014-04-03 03:00:12 PM  

frepnog: Walt_Jizzney: ransack.: That's the same reason I love that movie

Will Smith didn't say earf

You mean Will Smif.

/Heard that in the first run he did say Earf, but it was ADR'd out for future releases.
//Likely didn't say "Earf", but love the Lulz anyhow
///Earf

He did.  Saw it in the theater day of release.  "Welcome to Earf" was absolutely what Will said.  There is a reason it's a meme, you know.  They corrected the line on all home video releases.


Here's a fun fact: "th" is actually more difficult to pronounce than a lot of people realize. Every Germanic language but English and Icelandic had it shift to something else.
 
2014-04-03 03:01:33 PM  

Infernalist: cman: jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.

Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.

I expect that if such a scenario occurred that it wouldn't take long for those residents to descend back into earlier tech levels as their tech broke down.


Ok, but a civilization like that would certainly have a writing system. Stones last for a long time. They would have passed on their knowledge given the chance.
 
2014-04-03 03:08:38 PM  

cman: Infernalist: cman: jwa007: steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.

Unless, of course, we are descendants of the colonists.  Like those put on board the "B" Ark.

Why would we be put on a desolate rock with no technology to help us survive? That would be negligent in a high degree.

I expect that if such a scenario occurred that it wouldn't take long for those residents to descend back into earlier tech levels as their tech broke down.

Ok, but a civilization like that would certainly have a writing system. Stones last for a long time. They would have passed on their knowledge given the chance.


Give your average modern day schmuck a chisel and hammer and a flat piece of stone and tell them to chisel out the instructions on how to build something simple as a radio receiver as well as a schematic for one and see how that works out.
 
2014-04-03 03:11:49 PM  

PainInTheASP: Rev. Skarekroe: We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.

Is that what we're calling Monica Lewinski's cooter now?


They both have landing strips.
 
2014-04-03 03:16:26 PM  

cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.


I have to agree with you on this one and came to say something similar.  They also use these types of figureheads to distract us from their obscene abuse of power.
 
2014-04-03 03:19:11 PM  

carrion_luggage: PainInTheASP: Rev. Skarekroe: We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.

Is that what we're calling Monica Lewinski's cooter now?

They both have landing strips.


And old hangers....
 
2014-04-03 03:20:44 PM  

zarberg: Victoly: thamike: Have you met the public?

K, have you ever flashy thingied me before?


No
 
2014-04-03 03:23:17 PM  

carrion_luggage: They both have landing strips.


Very doubtful.  I'd wager it's either a barren desert or wild scrub brush.
 
2014-04-03 03:23:56 PM  

The Muthaship: carrion_luggage: PainInTheASP: Rev. Skarekroe: We've known that the first thing he did as president was research Area 51 for a long time.

Is that what we're calling Monica Lewinski's cooter now?

They both have landing strips.

And old hangers....


I know I made a crack about her bush but it seems to have been disappeared.
 
2014-04-03 03:27:18 PM  
I believe there are other species out there, whether they are flying around in space or not - we simply don't have the technology to possibly see them.
As for the whole Government cover up aliens, LOL some people had to much LSD and a really bad trip.

If they wanted to show themselves, they would - I highly doubt the Govnerment could cover it up for very long.
 
2014-04-03 03:39:06 PM  

RedPhoenix122: cman: Governments suck at keeping secrets.

So much this.  This is why I don't believe in most conspiracy theories.


The Nazis kept the freaking holocaust a secret. They burned down the Riechstag, blamed it on communists and everyone in the country believed it. The U.S. kept the Manhattan project a secret, while detonating nuclear tests in the desert. And you guys think a government can't cover up the recovery of a measly little spaceship?
 
2014-04-03 03:43:37 PM  

Triumph: RedPhoenix122: cman: Governments suck at keeping secrets.

So much this.  This is why I don't believe in most conspiracy theories.

The Nazis kept the freaking holocaust a secret. They burned down the Riechstag, blamed it on communists and everyone in the country believed it. The U.S. kept the Manhattan project a secret, while detonating nuclear tests in the desert. And you guys think a government can't cover up the recovery of a measly little spaceship?


And kept it a secret for 70 years? Someone would have talked by now.
 
2014-04-03 03:46:07 PM  

Triumph: RedPhoenix122: cman: Governments suck at keeping secrets.

So much this.  This is why I don't believe in most conspiracy theories.

The Nazis kept the freaking holocaust a secret. They burned down the Riechstag, blamed it on communists and everyone in the country believed it. The U.S. kept the Manhattan project a secret, while detonating nuclear tests in the desert. And you guys think a government can't cover up the recovery of a measly little spaceship?


No, we think the government can't cover up the existence of an alien race that would surely follow up on a single measly little lost spaceship.  We also find it kind of incredible that a single ship would just happen to come into exclusive US control, with nothing else ever.  And just ONE of the multitude of idiotic UFO reports would check out.  Just one.

Not to mention that if it existed, our space program and electronics progress wouldn't have taken nearly so long to have progressed as little as they have.  Every damn thing we have is very traceable to human invention.  It would require a global conspiracy to hide details and manufacture discoveries.  You really have to be an Art Bell kind of person not to laugh.
 
2014-04-03 03:50:54 PM  

cman: And kept it a secret for 70 years? Someone would have talked by now.


People HAVE!! And at the National Press Club. Ex-Canadian defense minister, ex-Apollo astronaut, ex-high ranking military, ex-US contractors.
 
2014-04-03 03:54:18 PM  
Just saying, but I suspect Buzz Aldrin would like to punch you in the face.  :)
 
2014-04-03 03:55:47 PM  

Triumph: cman: And kept it a secret for 70 years? Someone would have talked by now.

People HAVE!! And at the National Press Club. Ex-Canadian defense minister, ex-Apollo astronaut, ex-high ranking military, ex-US contractors.


I am too sober for this shiat.

I'll come back later to continue this conversation.
 
2014-04-03 03:59:56 PM  

Far Cough: Just saying, but I suspect Buzz Aldrin would like to punch you in the face.  :)


Buzz Aldrin claimed a freaking UFO was following Apollo 11!
 
2014-04-03 04:02:43 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Give your average modern day schmuck a chisel and hammer and a flat piece of stone and tell them to chisel out the instructions on how to build something simple as a radio receiver as well as a schematic for one and see how that works out.


I could do it, no problemo.  Simple crystal set shouldn't be a problem to explain.  He'll, I'll even throw in the instructions to make a spark-gap transmitter in the deal.

One of the neat "what ifs" is that they had the necessary technology to build radios back in Roman times, they just didn't have the theory.

Think about it.

What do you need to build a relatively simple crystal set and spark-gap transmitter?  Well, you need metal wire (they had that).  You need some sort of crystal, like galena, that they could use to make a cat's whisker detector.  Earphone is really just coiled wire around an iron slug that's attached to a membrane.

Same with the transmitter, all the stuff necessary to make it was available.  Glass and metal foil to make capacitors.  Coiled metal wire for inductors.  Wire and iron to make transformers.  Metal for the spark gap.  The only real issue here is electrical current (crystal receiver doesn't need it).  For that, you could build some kind of generator, or just a bunch of batteries.   They had sulfuric acid, and could have easily made batteries if they knew how.

So, you want to be rich?  Go back to Roman times and set up the Emperor with a means to instantaneously communicate with the far reaches of the empire.
 
2014-04-03 04:09:04 PM  

Far Cough: Just saying, but I suspect Buzz Aldrin would like to punch you in the face.  :)


Although he did later say he thought it was probably one of the panels that covered the command module.
 
2014-04-03 04:20:22 PM  

dittybopper: Dingleberry Dickwad: Give your average modern day schmuck a chisel and hammer and a flat piece of stone and tell them to chisel out the instructions on how to build something simple as a radio receiver as well as a schematic for one and see how that works out.

I could do it, no problemo.  Simple crystal set shouldn't be a problem to explain.  He'll, I'll even throw in the instructions to make a spark-gap transmitter in the deal.

One of the neat "what ifs" is that they had the necessary technology to build radios back in Roman times, they just didn't have the theory.

Think about it.

What do you need to build a relatively simple crystal set and spark-gap transmitter?  Well, you need metal wire (they had that).  You need some sort of crystal, like galena, that they could use to make a cat's whisker detector.  Earphone is really just coiled wire around an iron slug that's attached to a membrane.

Same with the transmitter, all the stuff necessary to make it was available.  Glass and metal foil to make capacitors.  Coiled metal wire for inductors.  Wire and iron to make transformers.  Metal for the spark gap.  The only real issue here is electrical current (crystal receiver doesn't need it).  For that, you could build some kind of generator, or just a bunch of batteries.   They had sulfuric acid, and could have easily made batteries if they knew how.

So, you want to be rich?  Go back to Roman times and set up the Emperor with a means to instantaneously communicate with the far reaches of the empire.


I said your average schmuck, not a Ham nut who also happens to make his own stone arrowheads silly! I know your basic radio is actually quite simple if you know what the main components are, and someone who works with stone can figure out how to chisel out said instructions and so forth. But just for the sake of argument we originated as the "B" ark, or interplanetary prisoners just dropped off to die like Australians back in the day, or even your basic crewmember from the Battlestar Galactica that chucked all their tech. Take your average person in that situation and have them chisel out the instructions and schematics for all the major tech they can remember without any of the tools they're used to.
 
2014-04-03 04:27:33 PM  
Yes, he also said under oath he did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky .... so just because he says it does not mean it's true.
 
2014-04-03 04:34:36 PM  

cman: I am too sober for this shiat.

I'll come back later to continue this conversation.


This was you sober?
 
2014-04-03 04:39:35 PM  

Triumph: cman: And kept it a secret for 70 years? Someone would have talked by now.

People HAVE!! And at the National Press Club. Ex-Canadian defense minister, ex-Apollo astronaut, ex-high ranking military, ex-US contractors.


I think the most compelling one to come forward to me was Lieutenant Walter Haut's deathbed confession, left in the form of a sworn affidavit. That seems completely unnecessary unless you really want to get something off your chest.

That and the Travis Walton story. In his case, sure, he could be lying, but 35 some years later, he and all the guys he was with still tell the same story.
 
2014-04-03 04:49:22 PM  

thamike: this increasingly divided world of ours

I appreciate dramatic flourish in one's soundbites, but this one is getting really tiresome.  First of all it's the opposite of the truth. Secondly, it's completely meaningless.


Look at how well House Republicans get along with that niBONG in the White House and reconsider how "opposite of the truth" the statement is.

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Actually when it comes to area 51 conspiracies I'm fairly certain that the government originally promoted some of the theories. What better way to hide aircraft testing than having some nutbags swear that it was aliens? One of the first jet plane test pilots flew with a gorilla mask and bowler hat so that nobody would believe the them when they reported the sighting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Woolams


I'm sure they did, but some of it definitely had a life of its own.  The thing about test aircraft is they use technology that is largely unknown to the public, including the side effects of that technology.

A real example I heard from one of my Mom's aerospace contacts: when the military started developing aircraft using carbon fiber rather than metal the test aircraft had a habit of, well, disintegrating on impact in a crash.  Rather than a hunk of twisted metal you'd largely get a bunch of dust and maybe some foot-ish long scraps of carbon fiber, plus whatever have-to-be-metal bits were involved.  You can imagine how confusing that would be for a civilian to see who hadn't heard of carbon fiber and all its amazing capabilities.

What wound up being the truly alarming thing though wasn't the lack of visible wreckage so much as the dust.  Like I said, in a crash what was often left behind was some comparatively small bits of wreckage and dust in the air, and since that dust was formerly carbon fiber it was essentially graphite dust, and quite a lot of it.  Now just to remind you, many forms of carbon, including carbon fiber and graphite, conduct electricity really really well.  With that fresh in your mind, picture what happened the first time some curious civilian drove up to a crash site.

Barely any wreckage.  No standard airplane markings.  Very little that resembles a recognizable part from a civilian or commercial aircraft.  The largest portions of wreckage are not metal, and are instead some kind of material you probably don't recognize: impossibly lightweight, nearly pitch black, no seams or rivets, and wholly unfazed by the heat from the crash.  Confused, you go back to your car to go for help, or maybe go get a friend, or quite possibly get the hell out of there in case someone comes after the wreckage.  You turn the key and... nothing.  Absolutely nothing, not even battery, despite the car having run just fine on the way up.  Then you notice your watch (electric) has stopped too.  And your flashlight stops working.  Then, in the distance, you see a dozen headlights heading in your direction from the nearby military base, at which point you wisely decide to farking run the hell away on foot.  When you finally return, if you return yourself, the wreckage is all gone and your vehicle starts like nothing happened.

You can imagine how someone who had that experience might have a tough time believing that it was a simple carbon fiber aircraft crash that caused all the weirdness, rather than some mysterious Alien Dampening Field that went away when the military took away the wreckage.

steve_wmn: But why would they employ stealth technology? To follow some bullshiat prime directive? That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.


On the contrary, it's just a logical extension of how anthropologists and zoologists behave when examining new cultures or species.  Responsible anthropologists will go to great lengths to avoid even making their presence known to primitive cultures if they think it might damage the culture in question.  It's not too farfetched to think a spacefaring race capable of interstellar travel might do the same if they happened across a comparatively primitive society like ours.
 
2014-04-03 04:49:30 PM  
internut scholar:

I think the most compelling one to come forward to me was Lieutenant Walter Haut's deathbed confession, left in the form of a sworn affidavit. That seems completely unnecessary unless you really want to get something off your chest.


Except that according to the Wikipedias, he did the affidavit 3 years before his death, not on his 'deathbed'.  And at the time he was already in the business of UFOlogy and had been for years.

...and that's as much as I care to dip my toe in the crazy today.  Have a good night.
 
2014-04-03 04:51:49 PM  

dittybopper: Dingleberry Dickwad: Give your average modern day schmuck a chisel and hammer and a flat piece of stone and tell them to chisel out the instructions on how to build something simple as a radio receiver as well as a schematic for one and see how that works out.

I could do it, no problemo.  Simple crystal set shouldn't be a problem to explain.  He'll, I'll even throw in the instructions to make a spark-gap transmitter in the deal.

One of the neat "what ifs" is that they had the necessary technology to build radios back in Roman times, they just didn't have the theory.

Think about it.

What do you need to build a relatively simple crystal set and spark-gap transmitter?  Well, you need metal wire (they had that).  You need some sort of crystal, like galena, that they could use to make a cat's whisker detector.  Earphone is really just coiled wire around an iron slug that's attached to a membrane.

Same with the transmitter, all the stuff necessary to make it was available.  Glass and metal foil to make capacitors.  Coiled metal wire for inductors.  Wire and iron to make transformers.  Metal for the spark gap.  The only real issue here is electrical current (crystal receiver doesn't need it).  For that, you could build some kind of generator, or just a bunch of batteries.   They had sulfuric acid, and could have easily made batteries if they knew how.

So, you want to be rich?  Go back to Roman times and set up the Emperor with a means to instantaneously communicate with the far reaches of the empire.


Never heard of the Baghdad Batteries, eh?
 
2014-04-03 04:52:35 PM  

steve_wmn: mechgreg: jwa007: I have no doubt life exists on other planets.  I doubt we will ever visit those planets, that whole speed-of-light speed limit thing that keeps getting in our way; which is also why I doubt any aliens have visited us

Even if you assume another plant has figured out speed of light travel, there are a trillions of planets in our galaxy alone. On top of that our galaxy is something like 13 billion years old. We are one planet out of trillions, and our species has only been around on earth for a small percentage of that 13 billion years, so the odds of people from another planet finding our planet, and finding it during during the window of time when humans have been around has to be pretty much zero.

And even if that did happen, I would assume that a species that has figured out interstellar travel probably has some pretty good stealth technologies, that could make their spaceships essentially invisible. I mean look where we are stealth technology is, and the farthest we have ever sent someone is the moon.


But why would they employ stealth technology?  To follow some bullshiat prime directive?  That sort of thing is just made up by sci fi writers to paper over the mutually exclusive ideas that interstellar travel is feasible and that aliens exist.  In a universe that is 13.7 billion years old some aliens should've fully colonized the galaxy by now and killed us off in the process, sort of like Independence Day without the Hollywood ending.  That they haven't says that one of those two basic premises is flawed.


This makes no sense. We humans could be the first species to reach our level of intelligence. Or the ones who beat us our only a little ways ahead and nowhere near universe colonization.

Dozens of intelligent species could be killed off by meteors and such, developed too close to a pending solar change that gets rid of them, etc.

We have no idea how lucky we may be.
 
2014-04-03 04:59:14 PM  

xaks: dittybopper: Dingleberry Dickwad: Give your average modern day schmuck a chisel and hammer and a flat piece of stone and tell them to chisel out the instructions on how to build something simple as a radio receiver as well as a schematic for one and see how that works out.

I could do it, no problemo.  Simple crystal set shouldn't be a problem to explain.  He'll, I'll even throw in the instructions to make a spark-gap transmitter in the deal.

One of the neat "what ifs" is that they had the necessary technology to build radios back in Roman times, they just didn't have the theory.

Think about it.

What do you need to build a relatively simple crystal set and spark-gap transmitter?  Well, you need metal wire (they had that).  You need some sort of crystal, like galena, that they could use to make a cat's whisker detector.  Earphone is really just coiled wire around an iron slug that's attached to a membrane.

Same with the transmitter, all the stuff necessary to make it was available.  Glass and metal foil to make capacitors.  Coiled metal wire for inductors.  Wire and iron to make transformers.  Metal for the spark gap.  The only real issue here is electrical current (crystal receiver doesn't need it).  For that, you could build some kind of generator, or just a bunch of batteries.   They had sulfuric acid, and could have easily made batteries if they knew how.

So, you want to be rich?  Go back to Roman times and set up the Emperor with a means to instantaneously communicate with the far reaches of the empire.

Never heard of the Baghdad Batteries, eh?


They didn't provide enough juice to power a transmitter. A small receiver maybe, but not enough for a transmitter.
 
2014-04-03 05:01:10 PM  

RedPhoenix122: cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.

The aliens hate us for our freedoms!



Aaaand tagged as smart.
 
2014-04-03 05:29:15 PM  

internut scholar: Triumph: cman: And kept it a secret for 70 years? Someone would have talked by now.

People HAVE!! And at the National Press Club. Ex-Canadian defense minister, ex-Apollo astronaut, ex-high ranking military, ex-US contractors.

I think the most compelling one to come forward to me was Lieutenant Walter Haut's deathbed confession, left in the form of a sworn affidavit. That seems completely unnecessary unless you really want to get something off your chest.

That and the Travis Walton story. In his case, sure, he could be lying, but 35 some years later, he and all the guys he was with still tell the same story.


I'm not well versed at all, so I really don't know who's most credible, but I did enjoy this clip of the military guy who took credit for coming up with the "swamp gas" thing. The main problem with most the people coming forward is they tend to be like 85 and could be telling old-man-stories.
 
2014-04-03 07:39:48 PM  
I don't know if ships from alien civilizations ever came near enough to earth to be detected but I don't think the speed of light means it's impossible. A civilization that is old enough might believe that it's good science to send a robotic probe on long voyage (10 to 100 thousands of years both way) toward solar systems that are likely to have a planet supporting life. I don't believe this kind of technology is beyond our means right now, it's just beyond our will.
 
2014-04-03 10:03:23 PM  

cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.


Actually, if you've ever read some of Icke's works, the government consists of shape-shifting Reptilians in cahoots with the other power elite like Bildebergers, CFR members, Bohemian Grove members, etc.  So it's part of their job to hide the alien threat because they are the aliens or pawns of the aliens.
And besides, the aliens, in particular, the Reptilians and the Grays, want us ignorant so we don't find out that they're using us as food.  We're the equivalent of tasty cattle to them.  They're running a massive disinformation campaign so anyone who even tells the truth is shot down as a psycho-ceramic crackpot who needs to be sent to a mental hospital.
Bill Clinton is just part of the campaign to hide the truth.  And besides, the real aliens are located in Ducle, New Mexico.  And if you want to see UFOs, you need to go to S4.
 
2014-04-03 11:32:37 PM  
Two words, Mr. President.  Plausible deniability.
 
2014-04-04 01:30:26 AM  

rustypouch: Smackledorfer: I wouldn't be surprised if aliens existed.

I would be surprised if they were close enough to visit.

I assume, perhaps incorrectly, that extinction odds for a species approach zero at a certain point of technology and science advancement though.

Once you get set up in a second solar system you should be good to go I would think.

This.

With the universe being essentially infinite, I'd be surprised if intelligent life didn't exist somewhere out there.

I'm very doubtful that they're coming to Earth, mutilating cattle and probing hillbillies.


If the universe is infinite (and there's good cause to think it might be) there's a 100% chance there is another you and he is at this very moment being anally probed by a grey alien.  100%.
 
2014-04-04 09:50:41 AM  

yukichigai: thamike: this increasingly divided world of ours

I appreciate dramatic flourish in one's soundbites, but this one is getting really tiresome.  First of all it's the opposite of the truth. Secondly, it's completely meaningless.

Look at how well House Republicans get along with that niBONG in the White House and reconsider how "opposite of the truth" the statement is.


Not a big picture kinda guy, are you?
 
2014-04-04 10:38:28 AM  

cman: I dont understand why some people think there is this grand conspiracy to hide alien life from the public.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Governments like to use fear to make their people submit to their whims. If aliens existed and posed a threat you bet your ass some politician would use it to push some stupid law through.


This may be the only thing you've ever said that I agree with.
 
2014-04-04 01:07:24 PM  

Triumph: Far Cough: Just saying, but I suspect Buzz Aldrin would like to punch you in the face.  :)

Buzz Aldrin claimed a freaking UFO was following Apollo 11!


We now know it was the vulcans watching to see if we achieved Warp...............
............ the pointy eared bastards went home disappointed and Buzz blames himself............
 
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