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2014-04-03 05:32:46 PM  

Zavulon: Shazam999: I don't even bother testing for IE < 9.  If someone complains about a showstopper bug then we'll fix it.  But you have to figure that if your office chair is newer than your browser, you deserve to be foisted by your own petard.

You're lucky. At the contract I'm on now the corporate-wide mandated browser is IE8, and all internal apps have to support it. Web development is only peripheral to what I'm doing, but it's still a pain in the ass.


Yep, same here. IE 8 is all we get (though we can install Firefox from the corporate repository, it runs 'virtualized' and is on version 15. Yikes). Intranet sites only support IE 8 since they use Windows Auth and Firefox doesn't.
 
2014-04-03 05:39:36 PM  

gaspode: Well who wants to do web development? It is farking boring. Have you any idea how shiatty farking boring it is? millions of pages of utter shiat. Really. If you are thinking of doing this then go raise goats or something. Anything really.

You will thank me.


heh. Or, combine the two..

"Goat.fadeToggle().addClass('TypeOfGoat').fadeToggle()"

and, voila, brand new goat!
//that apparently dematerialized and rematerialized after the upgrade was complete..
 
2014-04-03 06:31:49 PM  

Shazam999: Zavulon: Shazam999: Zavulon: Shazam999: I don't even bother testing for IE < 9.  If someone complains about a showstopper bug then we'll fix it.  But you have to figure that if your office chair is newer than your browser, you deserve to be foisted by your own petard.

You're lucky. At the contract I'm on now the corporate-wide mandated browser is IE8, and all internal apps have to support it. Web development is only peripheral to what I'm doing, but it's still a pain in the ass.

That's actually not bad, because since you're targeting only one browser that's all you have to care about.

You're right, it could be worse. We do technically support Firefox, but no one uses it so we don't usually worry about it. The problem is trying to use any modern framework. A lot of stuff either doesn't work in IE8, or you have to do some stupid workaround. What really bugs me, though, is that even though they've switched everyone from XP to Win7, they kept IE8. I didn't think you could even install IE8 on Win7, but they did.

jQuery still supports IE8.  Knockout too.  What did you want to use?


I'm stuck with a mix of something called DirectWebRemoting, and Google Web Toolkit. Both support IE8, but with quirks. More so because they're both older versions. Of course, the new versions aren't on the approved software list, nor is much of anthing else. Corporate IT still stuck on IE8 so you can imagine how slow they are to approve new development tools.
 
2014-04-03 06:42:39 PM  

Zavulon: Shazam999: Zavulon: Shazam999: Zavulon: Shazam999: I don't even bother testing for IE < 9.  If someone complains about a showstopper bug then we'll fix it.  But you have to figure that if your office chair is newer than your browser, you deserve to be foisted by your own petard.

You're lucky. At the contract I'm on now the corporate-wide mandated browser is IE8, and all internal apps have to support it. Web development is only peripheral to what I'm doing, but it's still a pain in the ass.

That's actually not bad, because since you're targeting only one browser that's all you have to care about.

You're right, it could be worse. We do technically support Firefox, but no one uses it so we don't usually worry about it. The problem is trying to use any modern framework. A lot of stuff either doesn't work in IE8, or you have to do some stupid workaround. What really bugs me, though, is that even though they've switched everyone from XP to Win7, they kept IE8. I didn't think you could even install IE8 on Win7, but they did.

jQuery still supports IE8.  Knockout too.  What did you want to use?

I'm stuck with a mix of something called DirectWebRemoting, and Google Web Toolkit. Both support IE8, but with quirks. More so because they're both older versions. Of course, the new versions aren't on the approved software list, nor is much of anthing else. Corporate IT still stuck on IE8 so you can imagine how slow they are to approve new development tools.


Sweet jebus that sucks.  Gak.
 
2014-04-03 06:55:40 PM  

Ishkur: Shazam999: I don't even bother testing for IE < 9.  If someone complains about a showstopper bug then we'll fix it.  But you have to figure that if your office chair is newer than your browser, you deserve to be foisted by your own petard.

I remember building a site for a client who still used IE6. This wasn't too long ago -- 2012. EVERYONE in the world could see their site just fine, except them. I couldn't convince them that "no, your site's not broken, you're just using an old browser. Please upgrade."


A couple of years ago, probably about 2011, we were installing our web app for some big organization and they had an organizationwide standard of IE6. There was light at the end of the tunnel - they were in the middle of a two year plan to roll out IE7. Of course given we are B2B, we pretty much only have to test against various iterations of IE anyway, certainly in the industries that we have historically made inroads into other browsers being allowed on company hardware is virtually unheard of.
 
2014-04-03 07:36:40 PM  

Theory Of Null: gaspode: Well who wants to do web development? It is farking boring. Have you any idea how shiatty farking boring it is? millions of pages of utter shiat. Really. If you are thinking of doing this then go raise goats or something. Anything really.

You will thank me.

This. systems programming and goat farming is where it's at.


Seriously, I have started deliberately doing disastrously bad web code, I just cant take it any more.

Im thinking of sucking up the money loss and writing ai code for games instead.
 
2014-04-03 08:55:40 PM  

Shazam999: Zavulon: Shazam999: Zavulon: Shazam999: Zavulon: Shazam999: I don't even bother testing for IE < 9.  If someone complains about a showstopper bug then we'll fix it.  But you have to figure that if your office chair is newer than your browser, you deserve to be foisted by your own petard.

You're lucky. At the contract I'm on now the corporate-wide mandated browser is IE8, and all internal apps have to support it. Web development is only peripheral to what I'm doing, but it's still a pain in the ass.

That's actually not bad, because since you're targeting only one browser that's all you have to care about.

You're right, it could be worse. We do technically support Firefox, but no one uses it so we don't usually worry about it. The problem is trying to use any modern framework. A lot of stuff either doesn't work in IE8, or you have to do some stupid workaround. What really bugs me, though, is that even though they've switched everyone from XP to Win7, they kept IE8. I didn't think you could even install IE8 on Win7, but they did.

jQuery still supports IE8.  Knockout too.  What did you want to use?

I'm stuck with a mix of something called DirectWebRemoting, and Google Web Toolkit. Both support IE8, but with quirks. More so because they're both older versions. Of course, the new versions aren't on the approved software list, nor is much of anthing else. Corporate IT still stuck on IE8 so you can imagine how slow they are to approve new development tools.

Sweet jebus that sucks.  Gak.


It's a paycheck. It's contract work too, so it's not like I'm stuck here forever.
 
2014-04-03 11:37:07 PM  

gaspode: Well who wants to do web development? It is farking boring. Have you any idea how shiatty farking boring it is? millions of pages of utter shiat. Really. If you are thinking of doing this then go raise goats or something. Anything really.

You will thank me.


How about goat programming?

img.fark.net
 
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