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(CNSNews)   Chronic pot users are up 84.3% over a ten year span. The report was based on a survey that asked very blunt questions   (cnsnews.com) divider line 35
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2014-04-03 09:22:37 AM
Hopefully ditch weed users are down. That shiat is nasty.
 
2014-04-03 09:50:40 AM
Below graph has an interesting trend. Increased use while the tech bubble was collapsing back in 2000, then 9/11, and then it flattens out. '08 housing bubble it goes back up again; it would seem people feel like getting high more when they are stressed. Go figure.


cnsnews.com
 
2014-04-03 10:45:49 AM
Isn't saying chronic pot like ATM machine?
 
2014-04-03 10:46:30 AM
Seems high.
 
2014-04-03 10:56:46 AM
So a "chronic user" is someone who has smoked 4 times in the last month? That must make me Jimmy Farking Cliff.
 
2014-04-03 10:58:33 AM
a) I don't trust government statistics around marijuana use. Been lied to far, far too often.

b) What about rates of alcoholism? If there are more chronic pot smokers, but fewer alcoholics, then I'd call that a net gain.
 
2014-04-03 10:59:19 AM
TIL that smoking a blunt at one point in your life makes you a "chronic pot user"
 
2014-04-03 11:03:38 AM
There are criteria for the "chronic" category:
1) Regular wake & bake (performing your morning routine without being high is such a novelty that it makes you feel like you are high)
2) You are high right now
3) You are going to get high later today
 
2014-04-03 11:04:44 AM
CNS is not a credible news source.
 
2014-04-03 11:22:50 AM
I have smoked pot since the early 90s and I haven't killed anybody since 1984.
 
2014-04-03 11:22:53 AM

MayoSlather: Below graph has an interesting trend. Increased use while the tech bubble was collapsing back in 2000, then 9/11, and then it flattens out. '08 housing bubble it goes back up again; it would seem people feel like getting high more when they are stressed. Go figure.


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2014-04-03 11:27:46 AM
The number of chronic marijuana users--defined as those who used it on four or more days in the past month -

Bwahahahahahaha<gasp>aaaahahahahaha<cough><cough>waitwut?
 
2014-04-03 11:32:06 AM

kobrakai: So a "chronic user" is someone who has smoked 4 times in the last month? That must make me Jimmy Farking Cliff.



If you apply the same standards to alcohol, we would be a nation of "chronic" alcoholics.
 
2014-04-03 11:34:40 AM

give me doughnuts: kobrakai: So a "chronic user" is someone who has smoked 4 times in the last month? That must make me Jimmy Farking Cliff.


If you apply the same standards to alcohol, we would be a nation of "chronic" alcoholics.


Now wait a minute here, no one is saying "chronic" chronic users are addicted.
 
2014-04-03 11:36:42 AM

kobrakai: So a "chronic user" is someone who has smoked 4 times in the last month? That must make me Jimmy Farking Cliff.


That would make me one the test monkeys they suffocated.
 
2014-04-03 11:38:02 AM

neversubmit: I have smoked pot since the early 90s and I haven't killed anybody since 1984.



Yup. I haven't committed arson since I quite smoking weed.
 
2014-04-03 11:40:48 AM

MagicianNamedGob: CNS is not a credible news source.


More like "lack of a CNS", amirite
 
2014-04-03 11:53:00 AM

fngoofy: There are criteria for the "chronic" category:
1) Regular wake & bake (performing your morning routine without being high is such a novelty that it makes you feel like you are high)
2) You are high right now
3) You are going to get high later today


So if you're high, or plan to get high at some point, you're a chronic user. Seems legit.

/number of "chronic" cannabis users goes up when defined to include more people! Film at 11
//I say you're not chronic unless you smoke more than a half ounce a day...boom chronic users just dropped
 
2014-04-03 11:58:06 AM

Dreyelle: give me doughnuts: kobrakai: So a "chronic user" is someone who has smoked 4 times in the last month? That must make me Jimmy Farking Cliff.


If you apply the same standards to alcohol, we would be a nation of "chronic" alcoholics.

Now wait a minute here, no one is saying "chronic" chronic users are addicted.


So, is this Chronic stuff any better than Pineapple Express or MoB ??
 
2014-04-03 12:01:00 PM

give me doughnuts: neversubmit: I have smoked pot since the early 90s and I haven't killed anybody since 1984.


Yup. I haven't committed arson since I quite smoking weed.


 I can't afford, I would never buy drugs... and I would never give up arson, never!
 
2014-04-03 12:10:02 PM
Isn't 84.3% also the percent of statistics that are made up on the spot?

And four times a month is chronic? Then that must make the Christians that go to church on both Sunday AND Wednesday for bible study double chronic.
 
2014-04-03 12:11:58 PM
According to the graph the increase in "chronic" users (weekly or greater) is almost entirely explained by the increase in "daily" users - 2.6M -->  6.M.

The 124 page report, http://cnsnews.com/sites/default/files/documents/Spend%20on%20Illegal % 20Drugs%202000-10.pdf, is concerned only with use of illegal drugs (cocaine, meth, heroin, MJ), not illegal use of legal drugs (oxycontin etc.).

The report doesn't analyze (or seem to differentiate) medical marijuana and only mentions the phrase "medical marijuana' once in passing.

I would presume most legal medical users are near daily (whether they have a legitimate condition or not) as well as those who think they have a medical reason to use illegal marijuana.

How much of the daily and hence chronic usage increase is explained by the legitimization of medical use?
 
2014-04-03 12:43:25 PM

wildcardjack: four times a month is chronic


That was my question.  Classifying a weekly hit on a vaporizer as a chronic user means they're attention whoring for (A) funding or (B) contributions from parties vested in keeping pot illegal.

But it's from a "think tank", so they're just producing the pap they were paid to produce.
 
2014-04-03 01:32:09 PM

Karma Curmudgeon: The number of chronic marijuana users--defined as those who used it on four or more days in the past month -

Bwahahahahahaha<gasp>aaaahahahahaha<cough><cough>waitwut?


Sounds like the stupid definition of "Binge Drinking," where if you have 3 or more drinks at a sitting, you become a 'binge drinker'.

/prefer pot to alcohol any day of the week
//no hangovers
 
2014-04-03 01:42:54 PM

fngoofy: There are criteria for the "chronic" category:
1) Regular wake & bake (performing your morning routine without being high is such a novelty that it makes you feel like you are high)
2) You are high right now
3) You are going to get high later today


I win!

Whats my prize?

/I took a hit while writing this.
 
2014-04-03 01:51:47 PM
So... I baked an onion cake and ate a slice. 

OMG! 100% increase in Onion Cake consumption! Think of the weevils!


Statistics... how do they work?
 
2014-04-03 02:12:39 PM

nulluspixiusdemonica: So... I baked an onion cake and ate a slice. 

OMG! 100% increase in Onion Cake consumption! Think of the weevils!


Statistics... how do they work?


To be fair though, anyone who would bake an onion cake must be high.
 
2014-04-03 02:13:05 PM
A lot of farkers here seem hung up over the use of the word "chronic" in the report. They are using it in a medical sense (persistent over time) and need some threshold to distinguish it from "light usage". Likewise they need a consistent definition to compare to chronic use of cocaine, meth, heroin.

However the most important category (which many here think is the real meaning of chronic) is daily use and its sub-category of wake-n-bakers.

from the report: http://cnsnews.com/sites/default/files/documents/Spend%20on%20Illegal % 20Drugs%202000-10.pdf

img.fark.net

Sure, certain parts of the media will distort things under the misunderstanding that "chronic' means stoned all the time, but almost all the growth in chronic use comes from daily use which may contain a large component of medical use.
 
2014-04-03 03:16:57 PM

germ78: Sounds like the stupid definition of "Binge Drinking," where if you have 3 or more drinks at a sitting, you become a 'binge drinker'.


That's the problem with definitions like these, it makes actual problem users (of anything) just part of the same group as a social user.

When you see statistics about percentages of college students that are binge drinkers it is startling...until you see binge drinker defined as someone who has more than 6 drinks 3 times in a year, which is covered for most college students I know in a given week.
 
2014-04-03 05:43:34 PM
Since i've been sick all week and I haven't partaken does that mean I'm no longer a 'chronic' user?
 
2014-04-03 09:11:34 PM

Kevin Lomax: fngoofy: There are criteria for the "chronic" category:
1) Regular wake & bake (performing your morning routine without being high is such a novelty that it makes you feel like you are high)
2) You are high right now
3) You are going to get high later today

So if you're high, or plan to get high at some point, you're a chronic user. Seems legit.

/number of "chronic" cannabis users goes up when defined to include more people! Film at 11
//I say you're not chronic unless you smoke more than a half ounce a day...boom chronic users just dropped


Challenge accepted!
 
2014-04-03 09:57:29 PM
Should have asked Snoop Dogg--er, Snoop Lion--about this important subject.  He's done a lot of hands on research.  Practically an expert.
 
2014-04-03 11:56:11 PM

fngoofy: There are criteria for the "chronic" category:
1) Regular wake & bake (performing your morning routine without being high is such a novelty that it makes you feel like you are high)
2) You are high right now
3) You are going to get high later today


1) Sure
2) Yup.
3) Probably so.

Now, extrapolate what you think my life is like, what I do and who I am from that single point of data.
 
2014-04-04 08:06:58 AM

WhoGAS: fngoofy: There are criteria for the "chronic" category:
1) Regular wake & bake (performing your morning routine without being high is such a novelty that it makes you feel like you are high)
2) You are high right now
3) You are going to get high later today

1) Sure
2) Yup.
3) Probably so.

Now, extrapolate what you think my life is like, what I do and who I am from that single point of data.


I'm going with ineffectual middle manager.

/I kid, I kid.
 
2014-04-04 12:37:05 PM

fngoofy: WhoGAS: fngoofy: There are criteria for the "chronic" category:
1) Regular wake & bake (performing your morning routine without being high is such a novelty that it makes you feel like you are high)
2) You are high right now
3) You are going to get high later today

1) Sure
2) Yup.
3) Probably so.

Now, extrapolate what you think my life is like, what I do and who I am from that single point of data.

I'm going with ineffectual middle manager.

/I kid, I kid.


Damnit.  You got me.  ;)

Management is what engineers do when they give up on life.

(I, too, kid)
 
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