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(CNN)   The pangolin: a relatively unknown (to Western world) mammal that looks like a dragon that nobody will ever hear of again. Why? Because it's "delicious"   (cnn.com) divider line 106
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2014-04-03 03:35:22 AM  
I don't get why this was under the entertainment tab. Did the mods assume it was a Game of Thrones thing?
 
2014-04-03 05:29:38 AM  
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http://news.yahoo.com/boat-filled-protected-species-hits-coral-reef- 09 4802333.html?everythingsbetterdownwhereitswetter


: "MANILA, Philippines (AP) - A Chinese boat that ran into a coral reef in the southwestern Philippines held evidence of even more environmental destruction inside: more than 10,000 kilograms (22,000 pounds) of meat from a protected species, the pangolin or scaly anteater.

The steel-hulled vessel hit an atoll on April 8 at the Tubbataha National Marine Park, a UNESCO-designated World Heritage Site on Palawan island. Coast guard spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Armand Balilo said Monday that 400 boxes, each containing 25 to 30 kilograms of frozen pangolins, were discovered during a second inspection of the boat Saturday.

The World Wide Fund for Nature Philippines said the Chinese vessel F/N Min Long Yu could have been carrying up to 2,000 of the toothless, insect-eating animals rolled up in the boxes, with their scales already removed.

"It is bad enough that the Chinese have illegally entered our seas, navigated without boat papers and crashed recklessly into a national marine park and World Heritage Site," said WWF-Philippines chief executive officer Jose Ma. Lorenzo Tan. "It is simply deplorable that they appear to be posing as fishermen to trade in illegal wildlife."

The boat's 12 Chinese crewmen are being detained on charges of poaching and attempted bribery, said Adelina Villena, the marine park's lawyer. She said more charges are being prepared against them, including damaging the corals and violating the country's wildlife law for being found in possession of the pangolin meat."
 
2014-04-03 05:43:17 AM  
Send them to arizona. Maybe the scales will protect them from the local shot gun blasts. They might do fairly well there.
 
2014-04-03 06:00:13 AM  

picturescrazy: All mammals are tasty.


As a rule, only the herbivores and omnivores are delicious.
 
2014-04-03 06:07:34 AM  

EbolaNYC: Jumping Jesus on a farking pogo stick China! We have farking real medicine that works. Stop eating crazy animals because you think that their powdered gall bladders will make your micro penis grow in the afterlife and bring honor to your dead aunt is a or whatever the fark you asshats believe it does for you.


This is why the whole "alternative" medicine stuff is bullshiat. They rag on Western medicine for "being about cutting and chopping", but eastern medicine seems to be nothing but eating endangered species. Got a cold? Eat an endangered species. Dysentery? Eat an endangered species. Multiple organ failures? Eat an endangered species. Bizarre new disease caused by eating an endangered species? Eat an endangered species. More wholesome and natural my ass.
 
2014-04-03 06:08:13 AM  
I thought they looked like a cross between a vioin and a banjo?
 
2014-04-03 06:08:18 AM  
I thought they looked like a cross between a violin and a banjo?
 
2014-04-03 06:26:17 AM  
If you had one for a pet, you'd never run out of guitar picks!
 
2014-04-03 06:48:17 AM  
Get in my belly, endangered rock monster looking thing!
 
2014-04-03 06:53:20 AM  

Nidiot: Western society also moved from eating obscure animal parts as a cure for a specific ill


No, we didn't, we just package it into "homeopatic medicines" and selling it in as nice beautiful factory-made pills. Case in point: "homeopatic cure" against flu which is some obscure part of the duck or swan, I don't remember which, packed in sugar, in tiny portion.

As for raging against Chinese, please remember that huge part of China are uneducated peasants or were uneducated peasants just one generation ago. You can't just stop believing what your society believes just because someone somewhere knows better. Case in point, for US audience: Amish, Scientologists, GOP. Come to shout at Chinese when your church of scientology came into right mind. :)
 
2014-04-03 07:16:41 AM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: How did I know even before clicking the link that this thing is being overhunted for use in some bullshiat Asian panacea?

I'm king shiat of f**k island, that's why.


What I don't get is that you have a country that limits the number of kids you can keep alive because of over population controls, yet every man in that country is apparently willing to eat a bear pancrease or pangolin scales to keep their dick hard.
 
2014-04-03 07:21:34 AM  

Meliorist: If you assume only 10% to 20% of the actual trade is reported by the news media, the true number trafficked over a two-year period was 116,990 to 233,980,

So an assumption with single-digit precision leads to 5 digits of precision in the result?


This is why advocate slide rule use:  You don't have a problem with false precision.
 
2014-04-03 07:22:46 AM  

dittybopper: Meliorist: If you assume only 10% to 20% of the actual trade is reported by the news media, the true number trafficked over a two-year period was 116,990 to 233,980,

So an assumption with single-digit precision leads to 5 digits of precision in the result?

This is why advocate slide rule use:  You don't have a problem with false precision.


That should read "This is why me advocate slide rule use".
 
2014-04-03 07:26:47 AM  

Nidiot: Smackledorfer: Asian cultures are farking retarded about this shiat.

How is it, to this day, that many people still believe there is a preparation of animal bit for every illness?

Except their shiattiest stuff, like the asian carp, which they bring to america because god forbid they eat our fish instead. Ugh.

Seriously, asians are like the worst stewards of nature of all time.

It seems to be a long held, possibly genetically ingrained thing, this idea that you could be cured by eating some specific food. Just because it works in a few specific cases, for example oranges contain vitamin C and therefore treat scurvy, that doesn't make it true for everything.

This idea of food as cure still holds in Western cultures. Every now and then you can find someone who of will try and claim that eating a diet consisting of only macro-biotic 100% organic purely vegetarian heirloom cacti is what cured their cancer.

Western society also moved from eating obscure animal parts as a cure for a specific ill, to instead believing that certain fruits, or food groups, will give us vitality and longevity (a couple of very generalised and difficult to prove claims). There is no shortage of articles consisting of "eat this and live longer".

But at least we are eating stuff we are deliberating growing for food, instead of depleting the wildlife.


My husband's aunt thinks that becoming a vegan 'cured' her Graves' disease. She was trying to convince me to become vegan to cure mine, and I was like "I have medicine for that". I have another friend who is convinced that there is something wrong with her son because he doesn't sleep through the night, and has thought that of him since he was 4 months old. She's taken him to every allergist and has restricted him from dairy and grain of any sort. She also took him to a homeopathic doctor who "diagnosed" him with "Candida" and gave this baby a shiat ton of vitamins to take. I don't know why she thinks it's not normal for a 14 month old to still wake up at night, but maybe the kid is HUNGRY.

People in the West turn to this stuff when they don't trust doctors or get on the internet too much.
 
2014-04-03 07:28:53 AM  

jaybeezey: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: How did I know even before clicking the link that this thing is being overhunted for use in some bullshiat Asian panacea?

I'm king shiat of f**k island, that's why.

What I don't get is that you have a country that limits the number of kids you can keep alive because of over population controls, yet every man in that country is apparently willing to eat a bear pancrease or pangolin scales to keep their dick hard.


It's funny:  Sport hunters get a lot of the blame, unfairly it turns out, for decreasing animal populations.  Actually, it's market hunters* selling animal parts.

For example, to the extent hunting contributed to the decline in tiger populations, it wasn't Chauncy Uppercrust on a howdah that caused it, it was hunters looking to make a fast buck by selling tiger penis to limp-dicked Chinamen.


*Poachers are market hunters, for the most part, just *ILLEGAL* market hunters.
 
2014-04-03 07:36:43 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: protip: western medicine sources it's medicine from both plant and animal sources.


Protip - western medicine sources medicine with an evidence base and often takes sustainability into account, farming the ingredients where possible. Unlike Chinese medicine which is based on magical thinking and which prizes animals more highly the rarer they are, effectively hounding them to extinction.

When the world runs out of wild tigers, it will only be partially because of habitat destruction. The rest will be poached so some eastern businessman can eat tiger-cock soup in the misguided belief he can take its power.
 
2014-04-03 07:49:32 AM  

picturescrazy: All mammals are tasty.


Especially the human variety.
 
2014-04-03 07:57:16 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Richard C Stanford: EbolaNYC: Jumping Jesus on a farking pogo stick China! We have farking real medicine that works. Stop eating crazy animals because you think that their powdered gall bladders will make your micro penis grow in the afterlife and bring honor to your dead aunt is a or whatever the fark you asshats believe it does for you.

This is why the whole "alternative" medicine stuff is bullshiat. They rag on Western medicine for "being about cutting and chopping", but eastern medicine seems to be nothing but eating endangered species. Got a cold? Eat an endangered species. Dysentery? Eat an endangered species. Multiple organ failures? Eat an endangered species. Bizarre new disease caused by eating an endangered species? Eat an endangered species. More wholesome and natural my ass.

protip: western medicine sources it's medicine from both plant and animal sources.


Yes, I know that. But sourcing it's medicine from plants and animals /= eating bear bile to cure impotency.
 
2014-04-03 08:01:18 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: protip: western medicine sources it's medicine from both plant and animal sources.



Yes, and we try and stay focussed on things that actually work, you know, like the saying goes: What do they call alternative medicine that actually works? Medicine.

I'd like to think that, while plants and animals are the original sources for many cures, we put some effort into testing to see if they actually do anything, rather than just finding some random endangered species, looking it over, and declaring it the cure for lung cancer and an itchy ass, and then selling the parts for profit regardless of effect.

We do sell an awful lot of pills in western society that do fark all too, but at least we aren't wiping out a species in the process. I'd truly rather people weren't idiots that can be sucked in by witchcraft or homeopathy or any other of the miracles on offer in the first place. But at this stage I think I'll just be grateful if we can at least avoid the annihilation of all other living creatures simply because some people go through their entire life with their brain on stand-by mode.
 
2014-04-03 08:01:58 AM  

Meliorist: If you assume only 10% to 20% of the actual trade is reported by the news media, the true number trafficked over a two-year period was 116,990 to 233,980,

So an assumption with single-digit precision leads to 5 digits of precision in the result?


ratios have infinite precision.
 
2014-04-03 08:06:08 AM  

EbolaNYC: Jumping Jesus on a farking pogo stick China! We have farking real medicine that works. Stop eating crazy animals because you think that their powdered gall bladders will make your micro penis grow in the afterlife and bring honor to your dead aunt is a or whatever the fark you asshats believe it does for you.


No wonder they are freaking commies.

They also pollute the shiat out of their environment and make untold tons of shiatty products.
 
2014-04-03 08:07:12 AM  

Nidiot: We do sell an awful lot of pills in western society that do fark all too, but at least we aren't wiping out a species in the process. I'd truly rather people weren't idiots that can be sucked in by witchcraft or homeopathy or any other of the miracles on offer in the first place. But at this stage I think I'll just be grateful if we can at least avoid the annihilation of all other living creatures simply because some people go through their entire life with their brain on stand-by mode.


We should get the Chinese hooked on homeopathy.  Then just one example of an endangered animal will serve all their medicinal needs in perpetuity.
 
2014-04-03 08:16:58 AM  
Here's how we solve this problem. Any time we catch people with "dead" rare animals, we detain them just long enough to poison the carcass with something that will kill anything that eats it. Then return them to the smugglers with an "oops, our bad". Smugglers distribute tainted animals, which now gain a reputation for killing people who eat them, or if not, the buyers quit using the smugglers.
 
2014-04-03 08:22:40 AM  

Smackledorfer: Asian cultures are farking retarded about this shiat.

How is it, to this day, that many people still believe there is a preparation of animal bit for every illness?

Except their shiattiest stuff, like the asian carp, which they bring to america because god forbid they eat our fish instead. Ugh.

Seriously, asians are like the worst stewards of nature of all time.


Agreed!
 
2014-04-03 08:24:27 AM  
strangefive.com

Panglin bag
 
2014-04-03 08:32:23 AM  
Weren't Mathew Brodrick & Marlon Brando trying to serve that thing to a bunch of rich foodies?
 
2014-04-03 08:34:12 AM  

fusillade762:


Oh I like you.
 
2014-04-03 08:54:02 AM  
I'm posting this reply via a pangolin... a precise pangolin.
 
2014-04-03 08:56:41 AM  

Delta1212: Unknown? I guess subby had the Red version.


I wonder how many people will understand that statement and/or know exactly one you're referencing which wasn't in Red.
 
2014-04-03 08:59:02 AM  

msupf: didn't even have to click the link to know that it was the chinese medicinal/magic potion market that is killing the animal.

Sadly, it is something I doubt education will ever get rid of there or elsewhere.


Here's my Thomas Friedman-esque CSB:  I was riding in a taxicab that was driven by a Chinese man,  It was cold, and he told me that he had just eaten some stewed dog, because that's the right thing to eat to warm you up.  Then he said something about dragons did once actually exist, but that they were all eaten by Chinese people because they had 'healthful' qualities'.  I said something about how we should make sure that no more species like that were driven to extinction.  He said that Chinese people don't care about that, they just want what they want.  I said that was a very bad attitude.  He said that he didn't worry, because Americans will stop the Asians from killing everything.
 
2014-04-03 09:25:24 AM  

nero_design: [img.fark.net image 834x1024]

http://news.yahoo.com/boat-filled-protected-species-hits-coral-reef- 09 4802333.html?everythingsbetterdownwhereitswetter


: "MANILA, Philippines (AP) - A Chinese boat that ran into a coral reef in the southwestern Philippines held evidence of even more environmental destruction inside: more than 10,000 kilograms (22,000 pounds) of meat from a protected species, the pangolin or scaly anteater.

The steel-hulled vessel hit an atoll on April 8 at the Tubbataha National Marine Park, a UNESCO-designated World Heritage Site on Palawan island. Coast guard spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Armand Balilo said Monday that 400 boxes, each containing 25 to 30 kilograms of frozen pangolins, were discovered during a second inspection of the boat Saturday.

The World Wide Fund for Nature Philippines said the Chinese vessel F/N Min Long Yu could have been carrying up to 2,000 of the toothless, insect-eating animals rolled up in the boxes, with their scales already removed.

"It is bad enough that the Chinese have illegally entered our seas, navigated without boat papers and crashed recklessly into a national marine park and World Heritage Site," said WWF-Philippines chief executive officer Jose Ma. Lorenzo Tan. "It is simply deplorable that they appear to be posing as fishermen to trade in illegal wildlife."

The boat's 12 Chinese crewmen are being detained on charges of poaching and attempted bribery, said Adelina Villena, the marine park's lawyer. She said more charges are being prepared against them, including damaging the corals and violating the country's wildlife law for being found in possession of the pangolin meat."


Did they light a pile of old tires on fire for a signal flare, and then dump some oil into the water so the rescuers could find them before their supply of panda jerky ran out?
I mean, if you're going to wreak environmental havoc, go big or go home.
 
2014-04-03 09:26:46 AM  

IExpectAKill: In addition to the f*cking adorable picture above, I will add that when I was in the fourth grade I was given the pangolin as an animal to report about for a class project.  I was so excited that I made a life size model of it out of plaster of Paris and covered it with scales cut from my grandpa's WW2 leather bomber jacket.  Got an A+ on the project but dad tanned my ass for cutting up grandpa's sweet jacket.  The end.


That's funny, thanks for the laugh.
 
2014-04-03 09:31:57 AM  
This little critter is pretty darn cool. Tragically, the most cutest happen to be the most tasty, at least in SE Asia.

/Guard your kittens, puppies.
 
2014-04-03 09:38:03 AM  

dittybopper: Nidiot: We do sell an awful lot of pills in western society that do fark all too, but at least we aren't wiping out a species in the process. I'd truly rather people weren't idiots that can be sucked in by witchcraft or homeopathy or any other of the miracles on offer in the first place. But at this stage I think I'll just be grateful if we can at least avoid the annihilation of all other living creatures simply because some people go through their entire life with their brain on stand-by mode.

We should get the Chinese hooked on homeopathy.  Then just one example of an endangered animal will serve all their medicinal needs in perpetuity.


Or better yet: The liver of a smuggler cures back pain. The heart of a poacher cures ED.

Problem solved inside of six months.
 
2014-04-03 09:39:33 AM  
blogs.scientificamerican.com

Dear God, these things are adorable. How have I not known about these guys before?
 
2014-04-03 09:58:15 AM  
My new favorite word is "pangolarium".
 
2014-04-03 10:09:04 AM  
So from what I'm noticing, if we want to save animals from extinction, we have to either educate the fark out of Chinese, or kill all the Chinese over in Asia?
 
2014-04-03 10:12:42 AM  
www.spscriptorium.com

PENGIN!!
 
2014-04-03 10:42:54 AM  

The_Original_Roxtar: I'm posting this reply via a pangolin... a precise pangolin.


techrights.org

Thanks you for your support.
 
2014-04-03 10:54:09 AM  
If it's delicious, it might survive as well as the cow has.
 
2014-04-03 11:05:11 AM  

patrick767: Pretty much. I mean, the west has been really awful to animals too, but wtf is with driving animals to extinction because of "traditional Chinese medicine"? Knock it off, assholes. How can so many people be so dumb and also not give a flying fark about what they kill?

It's not just medicine. Look at shark fin soup. Sharks die by the millions and tens of millions and often only the fin is cut off. The rest of the animal is thrown back in the water to die. Does that stop people from paying big money to have their soup? Fark no.


It's nothing more than Conspicuous Consumption for Asians.  Eating rare animals - pangolin, tiger, panda, shark, puffer fish, etc. - means you can afford to pay the outrageous prices, and so your perceived status goes up.  Asians tend to take the whole "saving face" thing very, very seriously.

Now, that's not to say there isn't something to the whole "traditional Chinese medicine" thing, but you don't have to kill thousands of a species to locate the active ingredients.  And fark the Japanese for continuing to kill whales under the guise of "research".  Everyone knows those animals end up in high-end restaurants.

This is why we'll need zoos and animal sanctuaries for many, many decades.
 
2014-04-03 11:10:28 AM  

meat0918: [palf-enforcement.org image 850x636]

 [2.bp.blogspot.com image 391x508]


Screw sloths.

I want a pangolin.


Why would you do that? I mean, the sloths just... lay there. They don't really participate, y'know? I'd rather get busy with a member of my own species anyway.
 
2014-04-03 11:15:15 AM  

CRtwenty: [blogs.scientificamerican.com image 550x386]

Dear God, these things are adorable.


Keep in mind that they have front claws that can tear open  termite mounds that are as hard as concrete.  If one gets pissed at you, it can cause some serious damage.
 
2014-04-03 11:49:21 AM  

Smackledorfer: Asian cultures are farking retarded about this shiat.

How is it, to this day, that many people still believe there is a preparation of animal bit for every illness?

Except their shiattiest stuff, like the asian carp, which they bring to america because god forbid they eat our fish instead. Ugh.

Seriously, asians are like the worst stewards of nature of all time.


this x 10
 
2014-04-03 12:07:17 PM  
I had a thought.

Perhaps an enterprising activist could sell fake "parts" of endangered species. Additionally, these counterfeit components would be laced with a deadly poison. This solves two problems: the "demand" for endangered species is satisfied without actually harming the population, and those creating the "demand" will be killed off, reducing the demand in the long term.
 
2014-04-03 12:39:49 PM  
And they look so dapper all dolled up!

sircritter.com
[source: sir critter]
 
2014-04-03 01:50:17 PM  

dittybopper: dittybopper: Meliorist: If you assume only 10% to 20% of the actual trade is reported by the news media, the true number trafficked over a two-year period was 116,990 to 233,980,

So an assumption with single-digit precision leads to 5 digits of precision in the result?

This is why advocate slide rule use:  You don't have a problem with false precision.

That should read "This is why me advocate slide rule use".


Bullshiat.  If you can't count it on your fingers, it doesn't need counting.  No problems with false precision there!

/you can remove your shoes for numbers over 10
//and pants for numbers up to 21
///if you're a guy
 
2014-04-03 01:52:33 PM  

spacemanjones: Weren't Mathew Brodrick & Marlon Brando trying to serve that thing to a bunch of rich foodies?


No, Komodo Dragon.

/Heeeere she is, your komodo draaaaaaaagooon...
 
2014-04-03 03:01:36 PM  

washington-babylon: meat0918: [palf-enforcement.org image 850x636]

 [2.bp.blogspot.com image 391x508]


Screw sloths.

I want a pangolin.

Why would you do that? I mean, the sloths just... lay there. They don't really participate, y'know? I'd rather get busy with a member of my own species anyway.


Why not both?

www.ivegandiet.com
 
2014-04-03 03:54:39 PM  

Huggermugger: He said that he didn't worry, because Americans will stop the Asians from killing everything.


That sounds kind of like how we're supposed to go over and stop every country from annihilating its citizens in every "ethnic cleansing" and civil war that breaks out. Look, I know we have a history of such things, but I get tired of hearing from every country about how we need to go in and save everybody.

Asian cultures are weird and I would not enjoy living in one. If that makes me racist, so be it.

/I don't like our culture either, but at least I understand it.
 
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