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2014-04-02 08:07:36 PM
That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .
 
2014-04-02 08:46:14 PM
On today's episode of Ice Road Truckers...
 
2014-04-02 08:56:44 PM

ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .


That's usually what people say but not what they mean. That truck should have a max gross of 7-8 tons but it's hard to tell without truck nuts for scale.
 
2014-04-02 09:03:37 PM

ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .


Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.
 
2014-04-02 09:31:25 PM

Ambivalence: On today's episode of Ice Road Truckers...


If they'd done something like this maybe that dumbass show would have been worth watching
 
2014-04-02 10:13:30 PM

Barfmaker: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.


It's still the cutest li'l dumptruck ever. It's a modified pickup.
 
2014-04-02 10:14:17 PM
Headline should have mentioned it ice on a frozen lake. I was thinking ice on the road, so the fact that it was melting would be a good thing.
 
2014-04-02 10:20:07 PM
I drive a chevy 1500, I can go anywhere.
 
2014-04-02 10:24:27 PM

gerbilpox: Headline should have mentioned it ice on a frozen lake. I was thinking ice on the road, so the fact that it was melting would be a good thing.


that's interesting.  I presume the default assumption is a function of the geography of the farker.  I presumed it was a lake.
 
2014-04-02 10:25:10 PM
He must have been wearing these.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-02 10:28:14 PM

Edgewood Dirk: I drive a chevy 1500, I can go anywhere.


Mines a Pontiac 1994. 20 years old and still good.
 
2014-04-02 10:30:12 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Ambivalence: On today's episode of Ice Road Truckers...

If they'd done something like this maybe that dumbass show would have been worth watching


They featured semi submersible trucks on more than one occasion.
 
2014-04-02 10:39:59 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Ambivalence: On today's episode of Ice Road Truckers...

If they'd done something like this maybe that dumbass show would have been worth watching

They featured semi submersible trucks on more than one occasion.


I don't think I ever saw one episode where a truck actually involved in the show was ever in the slightest peril. A few things happened to other trucks, but none on video

/I refer to that show and its ilk as "manufactured drama shows": big build up to nothing
//Yeah... I watch car races for the wrecks, too
 
2014-04-02 10:44:12 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Ambivalence: On today's episode of Ice Road Truckers...

If they'd done something like this maybe that dumbass show would have been worth watching

They featured semi submersible trucks on more than one occasion.

I don't think I ever saw one episode where a truck actually involved in the show was ever in the slightest peril. A few things happened to other trucks, but none on video

/I refer to that show and its ilk as "manufactured drama shows": big build up to nothing
//Yeah... I watch car races for the wrecks, too


You know what, you're right...I don't think anything ever actually happened on camera, at least not that dramatic (there were a few dramatic sliding into a snowdrift scenes I remember)...it was all after the fact "Oh, and look over there, there's a truck with a tire stuck through the ice."
 
2014-04-02 10:46:18 PM

ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .


Well, and that guy's balls must weigh in at 100 pounds each. So there's that...
 
2014-04-02 10:50:43 PM

ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .


A dump truck is referred to by capacity, either in tons or cubic yards. Small trucks are in yards, BIG trucks are in tons.

Thing is, that's not a "two ton dump", that's a 2 *cubic yard* dump. 6' wide, 8' long, 1-1.5' deep.

Pedant, etc.
 
2014-04-02 10:54:16 PM

Thingster: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

A dump truck is referred to by capacity, either in tons or cubic yards. Small trucks are in yards, BIG trucks are in tons.

Thing is, that's not a "two ton dump", that's a 2 *cubic yard* dump. 6' wide, 8' long, 1-1.5' deep.

Pedant, etc.


I took a 2 yard dump once, after an all night bender at taco bell.

My block was shut down by a hazmat team for a week.
 
2014-04-02 10:54:39 PM

Thingster: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

A dump truck is referred to by capacity, either in tons or cubic yards. Small trucks are in yards, BIG trucks are in tons.

Thing is, that's not a "two ton dump", that's a 2 *cubic yard* dump. 6' wide, 8' long, 1-1.5' deep.

Pedant, etc.


Isn't a yard of sand one ton?
 
2014-04-02 10:55:37 PM

Barfmaker: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.


Well they need to change the nomenclature then because my truck's rated cargo capacity is 1700lbs
 
2014-04-02 10:56:54 PM

ransack.: Barfmaker: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.

Well they need to change the nomenclature then because my truck's rated cargo capacity is 1700lbs


3/4 ton.  1/2 ton is the smaller trucks, like the ford rangers and such.
 
2014-04-02 11:11:09 PM

DubtodaIll: Thingster: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

A dump truck is referred to by capacity, either in tons or cubic yards. Small trucks are in yards, BIG trucks are in tons.

Thing is, that's not a "two ton dump", that's a 2 *cubic yard* dump. 6' wide, 8' long, 1-1.5' deep.

Pedant, etc.

Isn't a yard of sand one ton?


For dry sand 100 PCF is a standard estimate, so 2700 lbs/yard.

General purpose trucks tend to be rated by yards, specific use (moving the same material consistently) tend to be rated per ton.
 
2014-04-02 11:11:45 PM
Oh, please.  Sounds like fun.  Sign me up.
 
2014-04-02 11:14:18 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: ransack.: Barfmaker: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.

Well they need to change the nomenclature then because my truck's rated cargo capacity is 1700lbs

3/4 ton.  1/2 ton is the smaller trucks, like the ford rangers and such.


2000 * 3 / 4 = 1500.  You short changed him 200 pounds.  You should feel bad.. :P
 
2014-04-02 11:16:20 PM
And 1/2, 3/4, 1 ton are just colloquialisms based on ratings from the model T era.

most "half ton" trucks from the 70s through the 90s could take a ton in the bed.

It's simple math, based on legalities. Door sticker weight (GVWR) minus truck weight (with fuel, gear, passengers) = payload. The truck sitting on a scale as driven down the road can't exceed GVWR on the door sticker.
 
2014-04-02 11:18:23 PM

Thingster: most "half ton" trucks from the 70s through the 90s could take a ton in the bed.


Yeah, but let's leave subby's mom out of it, shall we?
 
2014-04-02 11:21:20 PM
Having dealt with too much 2-ton+ rear-wheel drive on such conditions?

Don't care.

Also, what kind of a dump truck is 2-tons? LEETLE TINY BABY TRUCK I PUT IN MY TRUNK AND TAKE HOME? :P AM SO VERY SORRY YOU ENDED UP FACEPLANTING...

Well, no actually that sucks, and I'm sorry. As many times as I've used a come-along to get out of situations, I can't poke anyone too terribly much. Good luck.
 
2014-04-02 11:27:01 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Thingster: most "half ton" trucks from the 70s through the 90s could take a ton in the bed.

Yeah, but let's leave subby's mom out of it, shall we?


Now I can't get the scene from Cool Hand Luke with momma in the back of the truck out of my head.
 
2014-04-02 11:30:37 PM
"Abysmally terrible idea: Driving a 2-ton dump truck on melting ice when it's 40-degrees and raining"

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-02 11:33:45 PM
Um - why's the headline in quotes?
 
2014-04-02 11:40:40 PM
People are not smart about ice, even here in Canada, where we should know better.

This happened on a lake near here a few years ago: A guy drove his truck out onto the ice in April to retrieve his ice fishing shack. The truck broke through the ice a few feet from shore and sunk up to the door handles. He climbed out the window, walked back to shore and phoned for a tow truck. While he was waiting, people continued to drive their vehicles out onto the ice, right past his truck!

I guess these geniuses are the same people who drive around the warning barriers and onto the tracks in front of speeding freight trains.
 
2014-04-02 11:44:55 PM
2-ton dump truck

Look, it's easy. Google can convert it. It's a bit above 4 Celsius.

Questions?
 
2014-04-02 11:48:33 PM

NavyBlues: Um - why's the headline in quotes?


Read the photo caption.
 
2014-04-02 11:48:38 PM

bingethinker: People are not smart about ice, even here in Canada, where we should know better.

This happened on a lake near here a few years ago: A guy drove his truck out onto the ice in April to retrieve his ice fishing shack. The truck broke through the ice a few feet from shore and sunk up to the door handles. He climbed out the window, walked back to shore and phoned for a tow truck. While he was waiting, people continued to drive their vehicles out onto the ice, right past his truck!

I guess these geniuses are the same people who drive around the warning barriers and onto the tracks in front of speeding freight trains.


For some people, their only purpose in life is to be a warning to others.
 
2014-04-02 11:55:01 PM

Edgewood Dirk: I drive a chevy 1500, I can go anywhere.


You're about 8" wider than this guy. Good luck.

www.fieldandstream.com
 
2014-04-03 12:04:41 AM

waterrockets: Edgewood Dirk: I drive a chevy 1500, I can go anywhere.

You're about 8" wider than this guy. Good luck.


Somewhere I have a picture of an 86 F150 on a road proportionally sized out in Utah.

Road was marked "Jeep only", I figured I'm locked on good tires.

Yeah, when the trail is 72" and you're 70" sidewall to sidewall with a vertical drop off, your butthole gets quite the workout.
 
2014-04-03 12:46:32 AM

Ambivalence: On today's episode of Ice Road Truckers...


I was going to say "Oh crap here comes another fake job reality series."
 
2014-04-03 01:33:28 AM
Lol, a very long time ago I'd just gotten my driver's license - on my 16th birthday. My Dad needed several dump truck loads of stone hauled about 15 mi round trip from a gravel quarry out in the middle of nowhere to a piece of land we owned - also in the middle of nowhere. Only one major intersection (traffic light) the whole way - and it was at the bottom of a very long hill.

He borrowed an old dump truck and overloaded the damned thing about 3x over it's limit - the load was completely bottomed out. My Dad told me to drive while he rounded up the next couple loads in the quarry with the front end loader. (It was stone that was too big to go through the crusher).

I climb in and don't even get to the ramp to drive up out of the quarry before turning around and going back - white-faced and tell my Dad the freaking truck has zero brakes.

He laughs and tells me to slow down early then. When I point out I don't have the correct class license to drive the truck, he tells me that will be the least of my worries since the plates/inspection and registration have expired as well... so don't hit anything.

I pop over the hill at a whopping 5 miles an hour in first gear and did the old Fred Flinstone-foot-to/through-the floor attempt, and dragged on the parking brake.

Went through that traffic light intersection - engine screaming - at about 40mph. Luckily the light was turned for me.

The next three trips I stopped on the top of the hill and waited until the light tripped before going down.

The last run, I came around a blind corner and there were fricking chickens all across the road. I didn't even try to veer; there was no place to go, and with that much mass I was like a small locomotive engine, I'd have driven through someone's house. Somehow they all came out the back - some minus a few feathers but gtg.

/One of many - that time my Dad tried to kill me - stories.
 
2014-04-03 06:08:36 AM

brandent: gerbilpox: Headline should have mentioned it ice on a frozen lake. I was thinking ice on the road, so the fact that it was melting would be a good thing.

that's interesting.  I presume the default assumption is a function of the geography of the farker.  I presumed it was a lake.


I live in  a climate were ice on lakes and ponds is very rare. "Not a lake" didn't even enter my mind.
 
2014-04-03 07:32:21 AM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: ransack.: Barfmaker: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.

Well they need to change the nomenclature then because my truck's rated cargo capacity is 1700lbs

3/4 ton.  1/2 ton is the smaller trucks, like the ford rangers and such.


Huh.  So my F-250, with a payload capacity of 4100 pounds, is a 2-ton truck?  Good to know.
 
2014-04-03 07:44:34 AM
Drivers should be charged with lake pollution. One count each for every single type of fluid on board.
Plus littering.
 
2014-04-03 08:59:31 AM
Yooper problems.
 
2014-04-03 09:02:06 AM

vudukungfu: Drivers should be charged with lake pollution. One count each for every single type of fluid on board.
Plus littering.


They typically are, here in Vermont.   And they're fined for every day their truck is on the bottom of the lake.
 
2014-04-03 09:38:18 AM
"Abysmally terrible idea: Driving a 2-ton dump truck on melting ice when it's 40-degrees and raining "

But it makes for great TV!
 
2014-04-03 11:07:35 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: ransack.: Barfmaker: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.

Well they need to change the nomenclature then because my truck's rated cargo capacity is 1700lbs

3/4 ton.  1/2 ton is the smaller trucks, like the ford rangers and such.

Huh.  So my F-250, with a payload capacity of 4100 pounds, is a 2-ton truck?  Good to know.


4100 pounds damn. Is it a Super Duty? What year? Engine? I have a 2008 Silverado LT2 4x4 with the LY5 5.3L
 
2014-04-03 11:15:55 AM

ransack.: Benevolent Misanthrope: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: ransack.: Barfmaker: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.

Well they need to change the nomenclature then because my truck's rated cargo capacity is 1700lbs

3/4 ton.  1/2 ton is the smaller trucks, like the ford rangers and such.

Huh.  So my F-250, with a payload capacity of 4100 pounds, is a 2-ton truck?  Good to know.

4100 pounds damn. Is it a Super Duty? What year? Engine? I have a 2008 Silverado LT2 4x4 with the LY5 5.3L


2005 F-250 Super Duty Lariat 4x4 Long Box with the 362-hp 6.8-liter V10
 
2014-04-03 08:23:35 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: ransack.: Benevolent Misanthrope: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: ransack.: Barfmaker: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.

Well they need to change the nomenclature then because my truck's rated cargo capacity is 1700lbs

3/4 ton.  1/2 ton is the smaller trucks, like the ford rangers and such.

Huh.  So my F-250, with a payload capacity of 4100 pounds, is a 2-ton truck?  Good to know.

4100 pounds damn. Is it a Super Duty? What year? Engine? I have a 2008 Silverado LT2 4x4 with the LY5 5.3L

2005 F-250 Super Duty Lariat 4x4 Long Box with the 362-hp 6.8-liter V10


Nice
 
2014-04-03 09:02:01 PM

ransack.: Benevolent Misanthrope: ransack.: Benevolent Misanthrope: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: ransack.: Barfmaker: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.

Well they need to change the nomenclature then because my truck's rated cargo capacity is 1700lbs

3/4 ton.  1/2 ton is the smaller trucks, like the ford rangers and such.

Huh.  So my F-250, with a payload capacity of 4100 pounds, is a 2-ton truck?  Good to know.

4100 pounds damn. Is it a Super Duty? What year? Engine? I have a 2008 Silverado LT2 4x4 with the LY5 5.3L

2005 F-250 Super Duty Lariat 4x4 Long Box with the 362-hp 6.8-liter V10

Nice


I like it alot.  I bought it used in 2010 with only 37K miles on it, and it's been a champ.  The only drawback is that the long box makes parking a pain in close spaces.  But I'll trade that for all the other good things about it.
 
2014-04-03 11:01:37 PM

ransack.: Barfmaker: ransack.: That truck weighs a lot more than 2 tons. My Silverado 1500 weighs 5400 lbs. Unless they meant the cargo capacity .

Yes they meant the capacity. Your truck is a 1/2 ton.

Well they need to change the nomenclature then because my truck's rated cargo capacity is 1700lbs


Is that cargo capacity after all the fuel and passengers and stuff? A full tank of gas in that is at least 200 lbs, add two adult men at 200 lbs each and now you have 1100 pounds left to play with at best...which is a half ton.
 
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