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(Think Progress)   Walmart was so committed to screwing over their workers that they didn't realize it was costing them $3 billion per year   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 105
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2014-04-02 12:20:44 PM
I think it's worth the price as long as those freeloading employees don't get a cent more.
 
2014-04-02 12:32:54 PM
I was forced to visit a WalMart back in January.  There were lots of empty slots in that store, and almost no one was working there, outside of the check-out lines.

Sell, Mortimer, sell.
 
2014-04-02 01:16:14 PM
They re-designed the Walmarts here, started carrying less variety (they even halved the quantity of their own store brand on many products). Then, the empty shelves were getting to be almost a given. There are products I buy that will go WEEKS with an empty shelf. If you don't shop first thing in the morning, you are out of luck on many items.

I shop at Kroger and Aldis a lot more these days.

WISH I had a Costco. :(
 
2014-04-02 01:30:09 PM
Those people want to work and they're still treated like moochers.
 
2014-04-02 01:35:12 PM

SecretAgentWoman: WISH I had a Costco. :(


^ This.
 
2014-04-02 02:01:04 PM
how long has this issue been reported on and their just now acting on it?
 
2014-04-02 02:06:59 PM
Walmart workers around the country have gone on strike repeatedly in recent years, often listing the need for more staff hours among their reasons for protesting.

Lazy freeloaders! If they have time to strike, they have time to get those shelves stocked! Chop-chop!!
 
2014-04-02 02:12:17 PM

loonatic112358: how long has this issue been reported on and their just now acting on it?


Their credit rating was recently downgraded, and the issue raised by investors and analysts.

Before that, it was "So?"

// because no one asked, employees at such stores should get to declare what they got in Fed/state assistance compared with total hours worked, and if the company is of sufficient size (say, over 1,000 people or worth over $500 million), and for every person that needed assistance, but worked over 30 hours/week (during any period of employment), the company gets hit with a tax bill equal to 100% of what their workers had to draw from public sources
 
2014-04-02 02:13:29 PM

edmo: Those people want to work and they're still treated like moochers.


Our conservative business and political culture is, at its core, anti-work.

If you work for a living, the Kochs and the Waltons and their cronies in congress farking hate you. If your capital gains aren't enough to live on, then you deserve to be stepped on and ground into the dirt. That's why they oppose unions, minimum wages, workplace safety regulations, workplace discrimination laws, overtime pay, defined benefit retirement plans, etc. Anything that makes life better for workers must be stopped at all costs (even $3B).

The rhetoric about "moochers" and "takers" is just propaganda used to get people to vote against their own interests.
 
2014-04-02 02:13:43 PM
A new one open up near me, in a food desert, and still people bypass it.  I see people getting off the bus near their parking lot with Kroger bags and Dollar General bags.  The few mom-pop shops are still hanging on, mainly because everyone is hanging tough, and trying to shop local.
 
2014-04-02 02:19:04 PM
The Walmart near me is a joke. Half empty shelves and you have to work to track down an employee to tell you they might have whatever in back, but they can't be bothered to check.

\\Walmart is so cheap and shortsighted that they won't even hire people to stock the shelves.
 
2014-04-02 02:19:11 PM
And the extra hours you give them will return money to you as well, because now that drone in aisle 7G can afford to pick up an extra DVD or case of beer.
 
2014-04-02 02:23:58 PM

cherryl taggart: A new one open up near me, in a food desert, and still people bypass it.  I see people getting off the bus near their parking lot with Kroger bags and Dollar General bags.  The few mom-pop shops are still hanging on, mainly because everyone is hanging tough, and trying to shop local.


A neighborhood market or full Walmart?

It takes time for people to change habits.

The Target that is pretty close to me recently added groceries, but it is a pathetic shadow of a grocery store.  They are across the street from a Walmart as well.  I still go to the Winco that is further away than both for the bulk of my shopping because they have the best prices, and I have an Albertson's within walking distance.
 
2014-04-02 02:25:32 PM

Marcus Aurelius: SecretAgentWoman: WISH I had a Costco. :(

^ This.

www.operatorchan.org
 
2014-04-02 02:29:12 PM
Walmart was under the belief that at zero wages they would make infinite profit.
 
2014-04-02 02:32:50 PM

tricycleracer: Walmart was under the belief that at zero wages they would make infinite profit.


Well of the two trains of thought, it was either that or pay workers full hours to stand around for full hours instead of just 20 a week.
 
2014-04-02 02:34:31 PM
Walmart is making a big mistake to even consider changing gears. After all, look how well their business strategy has worked for Sears.
 
2014-04-02 02:43:49 PM

tricycleracer: Walmart was under the belief that at zero wages they would make infinite profit.


Yup. They're penny wise and pound foolish. Cut every possible cost and they see workers as a cost.

There's only so much a worker can do. That goes double when you are only willing to pay wages that get you so-so workers. This isn't to say that there's no decent employees at Walmart, but that it's hard for them to attract good hard workers because hard workers are worth more than what they pay. There's a Walmart nearby in need of several department managers but can't fill the spots because the pay rate sucks- why take on more responsibility if you don't make more money for it?
 
2014-04-02 02:50:28 PM
As a dude who worked at a Wal-Mart a few years back, I would say that the part time hours wouldn't have been so bad if they didn't keep switching the goddamn schedule around.  That makes it awfully tough to get a second job if you can't tell them when you can be there.
 
2014-04-02 03:01:21 PM
I will be interested to see how they handle the in-store executions. Sounds like a pretty harsh HR policy.
 
2014-04-02 03:06:35 PM
Never forget that execs have gotten their degrees from colleges run by liberals.  The piss poor business plans of today had their roots in the communists teaching economics.  You have nobody to blame but your own commie selves.
 
2014-04-02 03:08:10 PM

SecretAgentWoman: They re-designed the Walmarts here, started carrying less variety (they even halved the quantity of their own store brand on many products). Then, the empty shelves were getting to be almost a given. There are products I buy that will go WEEKS with an empty shelf. If you don't shop first thing in the morning, you are out of luck on many items.

I shop at Kroger and Aldis a lot more these days.

WISH I had a Costco. :(


They redesigned the Wally World near me recently and it went from Mad Max to half decent. I only go in there like one or twice a year, but at least on the surface it looked better. We'll see if that lasts.

My Costco is like 45 minutes away, so I only get to go like once every month or two for a big trip.
 
2014-04-02 03:19:27 PM

SecretAgentWoman: They re-designed the Walmarts here, started carrying less variety (they even halved the quantity of their own store brand on many products). Then, the empty shelves were getting to be almost a given. There are products I buy that will go WEEKS with an empty shelf. If you don't shop first thing in the morning, you are out of luck on many items.

I shop at Kroger and Aldis a lot more these days.

WISH I had a Costco. :(


Or a Dollar Store so I don't have to get all dressed up like when going to Walmart.
 
2014-04-02 03:21:39 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Never forget that execs have gotten their degrees from colleges run by liberals.  The piss poor business plans of today had their roots in the communists teaching economics.  You have nobody to blame but your own commie selves.


I just can't help but feel if you had taken a bit more time with that you would have had a decent troll. You typed out liberals instead of going with libs or libbies, which is good, but then you kind of went full derp with the communist part. If you'd put in socialist you'd probably get a lot more bits and come off a little less FWD: Fwd: FWD: FWD:.

Still I'll give you a 3/10.
 
2014-04-02 03:27:21 PM

akula: There's only so much a worker can do.


Or only so much a worker will do, when they're making $Butt.Ass.
 
2014-04-02 03:30:15 PM

Ghastly: Smeggy Smurf: Never forget that execs have gotten their degrees from colleges run by liberals.  The piss poor business plans of today had their roots in the communists teaching economics.  You have nobody to blame but your own commie selves.

I just can't help but feel if you had taken a bit more time with that you would have had a decent troll. You typed out liberals instead of going with libs or libbies, which is good, but then you kind of went full derp with the communist part. If you'd put in socialist you'd probably get a lot more bits and come off a little less FWD: Fwd: FWD: FWD:.

Still I'll give you a 3/10.


You're being too generous. You could give him 1/10 for participating, but assuming he would have had a decent troll is going too far. None of his past contributions support the assumption.
 
2014-04-02 03:37:04 PM
Luckily, I live in the Birthplace of Costco (Seattle area), so I am never in want of such a place.  I pity those who have no choice but to brave the barren wasteland which is Wally World.
 
2014-04-02 03:50:44 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Never forget that execs have gotten their degrees from colleges run by liberals.  The piss poor business plans of today had their roots in the communists teaching economics.  You have nobody to blame but your own commie selves.


Oh come on you aren't even trying now.

-4/10
 
2014-04-02 03:50:45 PM

Marcus Aurelius: I was forced to visit a WalMart back in January.  There were lots of empty slots in that store, and almost no one was working there, outside of the check-out lines.

Sell, Mortimer, sell.


Jesus, are you at least up to date on your tetanus, MMR, etc... vaccines? Because if not you really should go get checked out and brought up to date. Never know what you are going to catch from a Walmart.
 
2014-04-02 03:53:28 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Never forget that execs have gotten their degrees from colleges run by liberals.  The piss poor business plans of today had their roots in the communists teaching economics.  You have nobody to blame but your own commie selves.


/ I give your troll a 4 out of 10. You could have scored more points with a libtard or two in there.
 
2014-04-02 03:55:37 PM

Prophet of Loss: Or a Dollar Store so I don't have to get all dressed up like when going to Walmart.


You should always get dressed up a bit for a dollar store.  It's just common courtesy for the girl giving you the lap da.....oh, that other kind of Dollar Store.
 
2014-04-02 03:57:42 PM

bk3k: Smeggy Smurf: Never forget that execs have gotten their degrees from colleges run by liberals.  The piss poor business plans of today had their roots in the communists teaching economics.  You have nobody to blame but your own commie selves.

Oh come on you aren't even trying now.

-4/10


I don't think he was trolling, I think he was just being snarky.  Which is kind of our stock and trade around here.
 
2014-04-02 03:59:06 PM
See?  The only thing these companies listen to is revenues.

Stop buying their crap and they will change.  As long as people walk into their stores and spend money, they just don't care.
 
2014-04-02 04:06:01 PM
It's kind of like when a company uses a Temp Agency to fill a position for a year or two because they don't want to pay the benefits. They have to keep getting new temps and re-training them because those people get real jobs.Professionally pissing off your employees just costs money.
 
2014-04-02 04:06:18 PM

BMFPitt: They redesigned the Wally World near me recently and it went from Mad Max to half decent. I only go in there like one or twice a year, but at least on the surface it looked better. We'll see if that lasts.


I haven't been in one going on three years now and haven't bought anything from one in well over a decade, so maybe it's different, but between the nasty-ass hillbillies, the cramped aisles and the rows upon rows of dark checkouts that force thirty people to split between the only two open lanes, I can't imagine what they could possibly do at this point to redesign one radically enough to get me in the door again. Never mind that the parking lot in every single one of them is like a goddamn destruction derby.

Fark that place. I can't think of any store I've ever been in that provided a less bearable shopping experience than a Wal Mart.
 
2014-04-02 04:08:49 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Never forget that execs have gotten their degrees from colleges run by liberals.  The piss poor business plans of today had their roots in the communists teaching economics.  You have nobody to blame but your own commie selves.


Yes, Wal-Mart is well-known for their liberal business approach.

Come on.
 
2014-04-02 04:09:17 PM

SecretAgentWoman: They re-designed the Walmarts here, started carrying less variety (they even halved the quantity of their own store brand on many products). Then, the empty shelves were getting to be almost a given. There are products I buy that will go WEEKS with an empty shelf. If you don't shop first thing in the morning, you are out of luck on many items.

I shop at Kroger and Aldis a lot more these days.

WISH I had a Costco. :(


yeah...closest Costco for me is ATL, about 1.5 hrs. Wish it was closer
 
2014-04-02 04:09:29 PM
The only reason they pay anyone at all is because slavery was outlawed, bonded slavery anyhow.
 
2014-04-02 04:13:46 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Never forget that execs have gotten their degrees from colleges run by liberals.  The piss poor business plans of today had their roots in the communists teaching economics.  You have nobody to blame but your own commie selves.


Yeah, like you can get my liberal, elitist ass to move to Arkansas.
 
2014-04-02 04:14:58 PM

Dr Dreidel: loonatic112358: how long has this issue been reported on and their just now acting on it?

Their credit rating was recently downgraded, and the issue raised by investors and analysts.

Before that, it was "So?"

// because no one asked, employees at such stores should get to declare what they got in Fed/state assistance compared with total hours worked, and if the company is of sufficient size (say, over 1,000 people or worth over $500 million), and for every person that needed assistance, but worked over 30 hours/week (during any period of employment), the company gets hit with a tax bill equal to 1,000% of what their workers had to draw from public sources


/FT4Y. Need to provide real incentive.
 
2014-04-02 04:23:03 PM

Marcus Aurelius: I was forced to visit a WalMart back in January.  There were lots of empty slots in that store, and almost no one was working there, outside of the check-out lines.

Sell, Mortimer, sell.


25 checkout lanes, and one person working them. No one watching the self checkout lanes either.
It's like the people all disappeared.
 
2014-04-02 04:23:51 PM
So wait, you're trying to tell me that taking an idea to it's extreme may actually produce the OPPOSITE effect?
 
2014-04-02 04:25:51 PM
<csb>

My last job was at a company that contracted with Walmart doing big data and analytic work, based far away from Bentonville.  I rarely directly interacted with anyone from WM on a personal basis, and WM didn't directly pay me, but I'll be damned if it still wasn't soul-sucking work.  Not even that the job itself was so horrible, but just knowing that my efforts were in pursuit of the goal of essentially sucking that last dollar out of some mid-western soccer mom's wallet and into WM's hands started to drag on me before too long.

Also, you have to wonder about the mindsets of some of the people who actually DO work in Bentonville, especially as you go up the chain... I was a low-level campaign manager working for a wholly separate company 2000 miles away and I couldn't stomach it, so it's hard to imagine the people running the show in downtown Walmart have what might be considered a tremendous amount of empathy.

/yeah yeah, blatant over-generalization is blatant, I know

</csb>
 
2014-04-02 04:26:48 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Never forget that execs have gotten their degrees from colleges run by liberals.  The piss poor business plans of today had their roots in the communists teaching economics.  You have nobody to blame but your own commie selves.


Ha ha ha ha.... You so craaaazy!
 
2014-04-02 04:27:54 PM

GleeUnit: bk3k: Smeggy Smurf: Never forget that execs have gotten their degrees from colleges run by liberals.  The piss poor business plans of today had their roots in the communists teaching economics.  You have nobody to blame but your own commie selves.

Oh come on you aren't even trying now.

-4/10

I don't think he was trolling, I think he was just being snarky.  Which is kind of our stock and trade around here.


shiat, the jig is up and outta here
 
2014-04-02 04:28:10 PM

meat0918: And the extra hours you give them will return money to you as well, because now that drone in aisle 7G can afford to pick up an extra DVD or case of beer.


So you get 5% back, wee!
 
2014-04-02 04:28:24 PM

AngryDragon: See?  The only thing these companies listen to is revenues.

Stop buying their crap and they will change.  As long as people walk into their stores and spend money, they just don't care.


I quit going to Walmart when I realized the ritual magic they use at the opening of a new store and renew yearly was interfering with my Chakra and make me angry and prone to lash out. Or maybe it was the other shoppers I can never tell.
 
2014-04-02 04:29:13 PM
On average Costco pays almost $22 an hour?

Wuh?

No wonder I have seen the same people happily working there forever. Applying for a job there must be like applying to an Ivy League school.
 
2014-04-02 04:37:45 PM
I only go into walmart if I need to buy ammo, and recently I've been leaving empty-handed because I can't find anyone to open the case for me.

To reiterate: they stock the product I want, but I can't find anyone to physically hand it to me. Awful.
 
2014-04-02 04:39:36 PM
If any production company is looking to hire zombie extras they should head to WM. When my roomate had a disposable phone she went there to buy minutes for it. Walking through there just made me feel sad.
 
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