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2014-04-02 09:33:34 AM
Oblig:

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-02 09:38:15 AM
Could we give them the slavic nations like Serbia? I'm sure the chaos they'd create in Russia would more than make up for the fact that Russia got to expand it's borders

/also, don't fark with Finland
 
2014-04-02 09:45:43 AM

Radak: Oblig:

[i.imgur.com image 348x654]


i lived in helsinki as a kid. the finns are massively proud of their resistance during WWII against the soviets. and rightly so.
 
2014-04-02 09:52:38 AM
O MY GOD, THEY'RE UNSTOPPABLE! WHERE'S ZOMBIE-REAGAN WHEN YOU NEED HIM??


FlashHarry: the finns are massively proud of their resistance during WWII against the soviets. and rightly so.



/"As in Helsinki, Sweden..."
//"Finland."
 
2014-04-02 10:07:12 AM
Btw, Simo says Hay-ha.

upload.wikimedia.org
I don't like war but...we got ourselves a badass over here. Used iron sights to snipe over 500 Russians, was shot in the face and survived.

only one way to defeat Finland - nuke the site from orbit,.
 
2014-04-02 10:24:42 AM
Don't worry, it won't be an armed takeover.

They'll send in the army, sure, but the army will just be there to conduct a vote.

Then they'll show the world: 97% of the people in Finland WANT to be part of Russia.

So it won't be a takeover, it will be a mandate.
 
2014-04-02 10:27:14 AM
unlikely:


So it won't be a takeover, it will be a mandate.

What a Putin mandate looks like:

cdn.breitbart.com
 
2014-04-02 10:39:40 AM
Monger that fear!
 
2014-04-02 10:42:29 AM
Seems legit.
 
2014-04-02 10:43:22 AM
While everyone has a problem invading Russia, Russia has a much larger problem with invading Finland.  Time to rethink your plan there, Putin.
 
2014-04-02 10:49:06 AM
Thanks For Being So Cool About Everything
By Vladimir Putin

As you know, the last few weeks have been kind of crazy around here. Last month, protests in Ukraine ousted the country's Kremlin-allied president and ignited a wave of Ukrainian nationalism that threatened to destabilize Russia's economic and military interests in the region. Of course, I couldn't simply stand by and let that happen, so I intervened and ordered a forceful takeover of the strategically important peninsula of Crimea-a territory with historical ties to Russia that our nation had long desired. It's certainly no easy task to forcefully annex an entire province against another country's will, so I just wanted to thank you-the government of the United States, the nations of western Europe, and really the entire world population as a whole-for being super cool about all of this.

Seriously, you guys have been amazing. All of you. I really appreciate it.

/one of the Onion's longer pieces lately
 
2014-04-02 10:50:58 AM
The Baltic states are NATO members, so unless Putin is really itching to get into real, direct war with the U.S. and most of Europe, he'll leave them be.
 
2014-04-02 10:51:27 AM
Could someone do the world a favor and blow Putin's brains out?  Preferably an ethnically-Russian person with an old grudge, so his buddies don't blow up the world in retaliation?

KTHXBYE
 
2014-04-02 10:51:36 AM

taoistlumberjak: While everyone has a problem invading Russia, Russia has a much larger problem with invading Finland.  Time to rethink your plan there, Putin.


Looks like he's not trying to invade Finland in the dead of winter, so he's miles ahead of the Soviets. The Finnish resistance was ridiculous in the WW, but the Russians ended up getting what they wanted.
 
2014-04-02 10:51:40 AM
As a Belarusian-American, I have to ask: why would he want it?

/Fun fact: Belarus is the only European country that is still run by a dictator
 
2014-04-02 10:52:26 AM

Radak: Oblig:

[i.imgur.com image 348x654]


Didn't stop the Soviets from trying a Continuation War after that.

/what's funny is that the State Department has no clue at all what Putin will do next
//all this speculation is just their loyal journalists running around barking at everything in a blind panic
///and I'm scarfing down popcorn like Newman, because with no power comes no responsibility
 
2014-04-02 10:53:59 AM

taoistlumberjak: While everyone has a problem invading Russia, Russia has a much larger problem with invading Finland.  Time to rethink your plan there, Putin.


Russia won, Finland gave up 11% of it's terriorty and 30% of it's economy.

Yes it was costly. The Russians made mistakes, fixed the mistakes than wound up with more of Finland than they had planned on taking.
 
2014-04-02 10:55:29 AM
I hope consumers are beginning to understand the cheapest deal will probably result in empowering fascist, totalitarian states at the expense of their slave workers.

Looking at you Russia and Communist China. And you Europe for buying cheap instead of buying right.

And enjoy eating those Chinese delicacies imported to the US. You know, gutter oil, farm-raised fish raised in sewage, melamine-laced tasty bits...
 
2014-04-02 10:56:35 AM
www.cynical-c.com
 
2014-04-02 10:58:53 AM
www.jihadwatch.org
 
2014-04-02 10:59:09 AM

bdub77: Btw, Simo says Hay-ha.


Iseewhatyoudidthere.gif

That man is one of the great badasses of history.  At one point the Russians carpet bombed a whole frakking forest trying to kill the guy.  They don't just hand out the nickname "white death" casually.
 
2014-04-02 11:05:42 AM

sweetmelissa31: As a Belarusian-American, I have to ask: why would he want it?

/Fun fact: Belarus is the only European country that is still run by a dictator


Nuh uh, Russia's Putin is a dic... Oh
 
2014-04-02 11:06:18 AM

sweetmelissa31: As a Belarusian-American, I have to ask: why would he want it?

/Fun fact: Belarus is the only European country that is still run by a dictator


I thought every country in the world was a dictatorship cep for 'Murica.
 
2014-04-02 11:06:56 AM
Came for Simohaya (sp?), leaving happy
 
2014-04-02 11:07:17 AM

SlothB77: [www.jihadwatch.org image 400x370]


so you think that we should engage russia militarily? is that what you think?
 
2014-04-02 11:07:17 AM

generallyso: Thanks For Being So Cool About Everything
By Vladimir Putin

As you know, the last few weeks have been kind of crazy around here. Last month, protests in Ukraine ousted the country's Kremlin-allied president and ignited a wave of Ukrainian nationalism that threatened to destabilize Russia's economic and military interests in the region. Of course, I couldn't simply stand by and let that happen, so I intervened and ordered a forceful takeover of the strategically important peninsula of Crimea-a territory with historical ties to Russia that our nation had long desired. It's certainly no easy task to forcefully annex an entire province against another country's will, so I just wanted to thank you-the government of the United States, the nations of western Europe, and really the entire world population as a whole-for being super cool about all of this.

Seriously, you guys have been amazing. All of you. I really appreciate it.
/one of the Onion's longer pieces lately


Anybody who thinks the Russians were just going to lay down and give the Crimea back to Europe hasn't even glanced at a history book.
 
2014-04-02 11:10:37 AM

redmid17: taoistlumberjak: While everyone has a problem invading Russia, Russia has a much larger problem with invading Finland.  Time to rethink your plan there, Putin.

Looks like he's not trying to invade Finland in the dead of winter, so he's miles ahead of the Soviets. The Finnish resistance was ridiculous in the WW, but the Russians ended up getting what they wanted.


So is Finland. And a NATO member as of 2014. Finland's military is pretty advanced and there's no "Semi-autonomous" bullshiat either. If Tsar Vlad I tries anything with the Baltic states or Finland they'll resist and invoke Article 5. Russia may have a seemingly powerful Army but that's about it.

I used to think Putin was cool. Now he's just coming across as somebody who doesn't know jack about war and is just puffing his chest out.
 
2014-04-02 11:12:38 AM

nunyadang: taoistlumberjak: While everyone has a problem invading Russia, Russia has a much larger problem with invading Finland.  Time to rethink your plan there, Putin.

Russia won, Finland gave up 11% of it's terriorty and 30% of it's economy.

Yes it was costly. The Russians made mistakes, fixed the mistakes than wound up with more of Finland than they had planned on taking.


Who knew Putin was a farker?
 
2014-04-02 11:13:06 AM
Finland? Now I know Putin has gone full crazy.

Seriously, I think he's going off the deep end. That's scarier than any rational empire building.
 
2014-04-02 11:14:36 AM
I say we give Russia the Carolinas, Mississippi, Georgia and Florida, no questions asked.
 
2014-04-02 11:14:41 AM

trotsky: used to think Putin was cool.


Why?  Because he rode bears?
 
2014-04-02 11:14:57 AM
Current Finnish army:
230-240k troops
200 Leopard 2's
70 T-55's (WTF, really?)
Some fairly modern anti-aircraft systems
62 F-18s
 
2014-04-02 11:17:39 AM

Walker: [www.cynical-c.com image 232x300]


I never forget Poland

img843.imageshack.us
 
2014-04-02 11:18:02 AM
At least he doesn't get into a land war in Asia...
 
2014-04-02 11:18:38 AM

trotsky: redmid17: taoistlumberjak: While everyone has a problem invading Russia, Russia has a much larger problem with invading Finland.  Time to rethink your plan there, Putin.

Looks like he's not trying to invade Finland in the dead of winter, so he's miles ahead of the Soviets. The Finnish resistance was ridiculous in the WW, but the Russians ended up getting what they wanted.

So is Finland. And a NATO member as of 2014. Finland's military is pretty advanced and there's no "Semi-autonomous" bullshiat either. If Tsar Vlad I tries anything with the Baltic states or Finland they'll resist and invoke Article 5. Russia may have a seemingly powerful Army but that's about it.

I used to think Putin was cool. Now he's just coming across as somebody who doesn't know jack about war and is just puffing his chest out.


Unless Finland's had a drastic change in international relations in the last week that I'm unaware of -- it was my birthday over the weekend so I was out of sorts -- they are not a NATO member. Last I checked (March 27th), Sweden and Finland were looking at NATO membership but not actually members. Historically Finland has gotten a lot of pressure from Russia to remain unaligned as opposed to joining NATO.
 
2014-04-02 11:19:01 AM

Smeggy Smurf: nunyadang: taoistlumberjak: While everyone has a problem invading Russia, Russia has a much larger problem with invading Finland.  Time to rethink your plan there, Putin.

Russia won, Finland gave up 11% of it's terriorty and 30% of it's economy.

Yes it was costly. The Russians made mistakes, fixed the mistakes than wound up with more of Finland than they had planned on taking.

Who knew Putin was a farker?


That is Comrade Putin to you.
 
2014-04-02 11:19:18 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Current Finnish army:
230-240k troops
200 Leopard 2's
70 T-55's (WTF, really?)
Some fairly modern anti-aircraft systems
62 F-18s


It looks like they are upgrading.
 
2014-04-02 11:19:36 AM
If Putin even casts eyes on the Baltic states they will scratch them out for him. The Litvaks and Estonians in Particular NEVER accepted being part of the USSR much less Russia.  Look up the history of the "Forest Brothers" sometime.   The last of the partisans in Lithuania, who was part of the guerrilla movement (that started in 1917) died in 1978 and  took two KGB agents to drown him , even though he was nearly 90
 
2014-04-02 11:19:51 AM

Radak: Oblig:

[i.imgur.com image 348x654]


satwcomic.com
 
2014-04-02 11:19:54 AM

TheYeti: Satanic_Hamster: Current Finnish army:
230-240k troops
200 Leopard 2's
70 T-55's (WTF, really?)
Some fairly modern anti-aircraft systems
62 F-18s

It looks like they are upgrading.


Nevermind.

I can't read.
 
2014-04-02 11:20:40 AM

Radak: Oblig:

[i.imgur.com image 348x654]


That right there is what you call home-field advantage... and maybe that Finland is very "unconventional" when it comes to warfare.

/Unconventional. Or Bat-Shiat Insane. Take your pick...
 
2014-04-02 11:29:45 AM
My grandfather was an officer in the Finnish Army. He told me a few war stories when visiting him in Stockholm some years back before he passed away.
He also gave me a two piece pipe carved by a Russian prisoner... bullet casing inside the hexagon shaped bowl.
He traded some smokes for it. The prisoner asked what his son's name was, and then carved my dad's initials on the stem.
Koveri was carved in on one side, and I think the other side says or Annus. Looked up Annus and means 12 months. Wondering if that was meant by the prisoner.

Anyway, fascinating stories.
 
2014-04-02 11:29:48 AM
Dagbladet added:  "It's not on Putin's Agenda today or tomorrow"

So basically this guy is just full of shiat and throwing it against the wall, hmm wonder who is paying him.
This propaganda smells like a dirty diaper.
 
2014-04-02 11:34:26 AM
The 2014 Russian Army local self-defense forces world tour may soon be coming to Belarus, the Baltic states and Finland

FTFY, Comrade Subby.
 
2014-04-02 11:35:11 AM

redmid17: trotsky: redmid17: taoistlumberjak: While everyone has a problem invading Russia, Russia has a much larger problem with invading Finland.  Time to rethink your plan there, Putin.

Looks like he's not trying to invade Finland in the dead of winter, so he's miles ahead of the Soviets. The Finnish resistance was ridiculous in the WW, but the Russians ended up getting what they wanted.

So is Finland. And a NATO member as of 2014. Finland's military is pretty advanced and there's no "Semi-autonomous" bullshiat either. If Tsar Vlad I tries anything with the Baltic states or Finland they'll resist and invoke Article 5. Russia may have a seemingly powerful Army but that's about it.

I used to think Putin was cool. Now he's just coming across as somebody who doesn't know jack about war and is just puffing his chest out.

Unless Finland's had a drastic change in international relations in the last week that I'm unaware of -- it was my birthday over the weekend so I was out of sorts -- they are not a NATO member. Last I checked (March 27th), Sweden and Finland were looking at NATO membership but not actually members. Historically Finland has gotten a lot of pressure from Russia to remain unaligned as opposed to joining NATO.


Oh no, they are on their way. They've already began integrating with NATO in many ways and have signed deals with EU states for arms that match NATO future standard (in addition to what they have). They're on the fast track to NATO membership.

To address another point made earlier, the Soviets gave all the territory back in the 1960s they received in the FCMA treaty signed in 1947.

Historically Finland was part so Tsarist Russia since the 18th century but was always pretty much left to it's own devices. Because of this they kept their distinct culture and language. Tsar Nicholas II tried to impose more rule on them and most likely the Finns would have revolted in 1918 if Russia hadn't in 1917.

Russia saw Finland as a Route for the Germans to Leningrad; that was the entire point of the Winter War. Finland's neutrality wasn't enough, the Soviets wanted a Finnish neutrality that was biased to let the Soviet assist in case of invasion. Finland told them no, they were neutral and so Stalin decided to get what he wanted by force. The Winter War ended poorly for the Finns and the 1944 Continuation was the Finns getting German assistance to fight the Soviets.

The FCMA treaty was actually pretty even handed as the Soviets had to worry about Eastern Europe and the Cold War. The Finns were "neutral" as the Soviets wanted them to be but kept their Scandinavian orientation even though they were regarded as a puppet state until the 1970s.

Nowadays both Sweden and Finland have taken steps to improve their security in the wake of the historical lessons. If Putin tries anything, the Swedes may just do something for Finland, unlike 1939. Gripens vs. MiGs? Yes, please.
 
2014-04-02 11:36:24 AM
Finland gave the world Linus Torvalds, so I think they deserve our support/defense.  Just sayin.
 
2014-04-02 11:39:53 AM

generallyso: Thanks For Being So Cool About Everything
By Vladimir Putin

As you know, the last few weeks have been kind of crazy around here. Last month, protests in Ukraine ousted the country's Kremlin-allied president and ignited a wave of Ukrainian nationalism that threatened to destabilize Russia's economic and military interests in the region. Of course, I couldn't simply stand by and let that happen, so I intervened and ordered a forceful takeover of the strategically important peninsula of Crimea-a territory with historical ties to Russia that our nation had long desired. It's certainly no easy task to forcefully annex an entire province against another country's will, so I just wanted to thank you-the government of the United States, the nations of western Europe, and really the entire world population as a whole-for being super cool about all of this.

Seriously, you guys have been amazing. All of you. I really appreciate it.
/one of the Onion's longer pieces lately


In a way, I think this is true. I think most Western leaders are only too happy to let Russia have Crimea.
 
2014-04-02 11:40:58 AM

FlashHarry: SlothB77: [www.jihadwatch.org image 400x370]

so you think that we should engage russia militarily? is that what you think?


Plenty of people in the West would prefer to "wait and see". The Balts have the promise of protection, they point out, so there is only danger in provoking Mr Putin. Wishful thinkers say that having made his point in Crimea, he will probably stop while he is still ahead. Instead of ratcheting up tension, the West should provide "off-ramps" that steer Russia towards détente.

In fact the opposite is true. The greatest provocation to Mr Putin is to fail to stand up to him, and the least costly time to resist him is now.

If the Balts begin to disintegrate, it would leave the West with a much less palatable choice than it has today: NATO would have to walk away from its main premise, that aggression against one is aggression on all, or it would have to respond-and to restore deterrence, NATO's response would have to be commensurately greater. That in turn would pose the immediate threat of escalation.

Better to take steps today, so that Mr Putin understands he has nothing to gain from stirring up trouble. Barack Obama, visiting the alliance's headquarters this week, made a start, by reaffirming the principle of mutual protection and saying that some American troops would be shifted eastwards. More is needed. More exercises should take place in eastern Europe. The region's air and cyber defences need boosting. NATO's next head, to be appointed in September, should be someone who understands Russia-Jens Stoltenberg, a former Norwegian prime minister, or Radek Sikorski, Poland's foreign minister. The alliance should work with Sweden and Finland and leave the door open to their membership. And all members should honour their pledge to spend 2% of GDP on defence.


 that.
 
2014-04-02 11:45:26 AM
Meanwhile, the US president dramatically cuts the Military and chides Ellen for her "selfie stunt".
 
2014-04-02 11:45:48 AM

bdub77: Btw, Simo says Hay-ha.


I don't like war but...we got ourselves a badass over here. Used iron sights to snipe over 500 Russians, was shot in the face and survived.

only one way to defeat Finland - nuke the site from orbit,.


With one of their own guns!

Mosin Nagant m91/30, but his was the Finnish variant.

/best rifle ever made
 
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