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2014-04-02 04:14:02 AM  
keebler grasshoppers.

just as nice at half the price, and you don't have to deal with annoying little girls harassing you when you go into the grocery store.
 
2014-04-02 05:40:55 AM  
It's a pretty bold move to blast Girl Scout cookies

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2014-04-02 08:51:51 AM  
One of my daughter's troops still have some cookies left.  Anybody need anything?
 
2014-04-02 08:54:27 AM  

the801: keebler grasshoppers.

just as nice at half the price, and you don't have to deal with annoying little girls harassing you when you go into the grocery store.


DON'T YOU DARE TALK ILL ABOUT MY THIN MINTS
 
2014-04-02 08:54:36 AM  

minoridiot: One of my daughter's troops still have some cookies left.  Anybody need anything?


Have you tried doing booth sales?  Local businesses, at least around here, love to support local troops.  My daughter's troop sold tons that way.
 
2014-04-02 08:57:18 AM  
Oh fark off. Cookies and a healthy diet are not mutually exclusive. If you can't keep your gaping pie hole shut that's your fault.

/ I am however tired of parents selling the cookies
 
2014-04-02 08:57:58 AM  
Thin Mints are the crack cocaine of mass-produced cookies.
 
2014-04-02 08:59:41 AM  

CruJones: Oh fark off. Cookies and a healthy diet are not mutually exclusive. If you can't keep your gaping pie hole shut that's your fault.

/ I am however tired of parents selling the cookies


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/on the other hand, if it wasn't for parents selling them at work, i'd never buy any at all
 
2014-04-02 09:00:02 AM  
But do the cookies go limp in a steamy bathroom?

/Do they really  believein their product?
 
2014-04-02 09:00:27 AM  
FTA: ....That's what John Mandrola, a heart doctor in Louisville, Ky.,   on his blog in March. (He also blogs for Medscape/Cardiology.)

That explains a lot. Louisville (Lou-uh-vul) is an evil place filled with horrible people.
 
2014-04-02 09:05:13 AM  
TFA blames it on fat people.
 
2014-04-02 09:05:51 AM  
I hope that the brilliant headline will become a FARK meme and regular.

Love the cookies, no longer in my diet though.
 
2014-04-02 09:06:15 AM  
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2014-04-02 09:06:49 AM  

minoridiot: One of my daughter's troops still have some cookies left.  Anybody need anything?


Are any Thin Mints and/or Trefoils available?

/goddamnit
 
2014-04-02 09:09:28 AM  
Fark off. Stop questioning peoples right to make choices.
 
2014-04-02 09:09:58 AM  
What's the big fuss?  A few cookies now and then aren't going to hurt anybody.  They only sell them for one period a year.  And it's not like you're going to eat too many  - they come in the convenient single-serving containers to prevent over--indulgence.
 
2014-04-02 09:10:32 AM  
FTFA:  "The problem is that selling high-fat sugar-laden cookies to an increasingly calorie-addicted populace is no longer congruent with [the Girl Scouts' aim to make the world a better place]."

AND:    and in a way it's worse because you're co-opting innocent children."

For God's sake you imbeciles, get it together.  Jebus!
 
2014-04-02 09:11:05 AM  
If you think that teaching little girls to be crack dealers is a benefit to the community then go right ahead and buy those cookies!

I was at the grocery store the other day and the girls' leader was encouraging the impressionable scouts to offer free thin mints to shoppers.  Sure. The first one is always free.   After that, its $4 a box to feed your habit.
 
2014-04-02 09:11:07 AM  
Does biatching ,whining and moaning like a simple minded NPR individual who has there head up someone elses arse make the world a better place , or just more pathetically miserable ?
 
2014-04-02 09:12:49 AM  
For this one we really can say, "Thanks Obama", Michelle Obama that is.
 
2014-04-02 09:14:23 AM  
Good. I don't like the cookies, and I don't like being being guilt tripped into buying them by little girls or their parents. I hope the Girl Scouts can find a more positive alternative to hawking unhealthy crap and turning litte girls into Herbalife trainees.
 
2014-04-02 09:14:25 AM  

minoridiot: One of my daughter's troops still have some cookies left.  Anybody need anything?


I'll take a couple boxes.  2 for $5, correct?
 
2014-04-02 09:14:45 AM  
I will find this doctor, then shoot him in the face with bullets made from my last remaining box of Caramel De-Lites.  Then I will eat my last box of Peanut Butter Sandwiches while I dance on his grave.  Then I will I eat my last box of the Chocolate covered Peant Butter while I jog a few miles to burn the calories off.  Then, I will not complain about how Girl Scouts made me fat, because I WAS THE ONE WHO CHOSE TO EAT THE FARKING COOKIES, DR. BLOOMBERG.
 
2014-04-02 09:15:17 AM  
Maybe more people should join my organization - The Society For Telling People To Go Fark Themselves
 
2014-04-02 09:16:15 AM  

QueenMamaBee: FTA: ....That's what John Mandrola, a heart doctor in Louisville, Ky.,   on his blog in March. (He also blogs for Medscape/Cardiology.)

That explains a lot. Louisville (Lou-uh-vul) is an evil place filled with horrible people.


I was in Louisville for work about 2 years ago off and on for about 6 months. I had nothing but nice things to say about the people there. I do admit though, while Louisville was nice Lexington was pretty cool too.
 
2014-04-02 09:16:30 AM  

CruJones: Oh fark off. Cookies and a healthy diet are not mutually exclusive. If you can't keep your gaping pie hole shut that's your fault.

/ I am however tired of parents selling the cookies


This.  I bought one box and I would have maybe 1 a day as a little "dessert" after a meal. ONOES  Have some self-control, people!
 
2014-04-02 09:16:46 AM  
The sentiment was echoed by Diane Hartman, a writer and editor in Denver, who penned an indignant op-ed in theDenver Post, "Why are we letting Girl Scouts sell these fattening cookies?"

Uh, letting them? The last time I checked, private organizations didn't need your permission to sell a legal product. If you are opposed to them, don't buy them. You don't get to ram your self-righteous indignation down everyone else's throats because you're a fatty who doesn't have the self control to resist the Caramel Delites.
 
2014-04-02 09:17:25 AM  
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2014-04-02 09:17:49 AM  
They aren't that good to begin with, and I'm not a fan of people using their children as weird social status pawns to one-up the Joneses because they forced their employees to "voluntarily" buy a dozen boxes each. Teach the kids to bake the same cookies or something with normal ingredients.
 
2014-04-02 09:18:26 AM  
Good luck with those stands selling free-range broccoli florets outside the grocery store.
 
2014-04-02 09:18:40 AM  

the801: keebler grasshoppers.

just as nice at half the price, and you don't have to deal with annoying little girls harassing you when you go into the grocery store.


All you do is just tell them you already bought some.  I HATE how Kroger's lets all kinds of groups ambush you in their foyer, like they are giving you such a good deal and that you didn't just spend an arm and a leg on groceries because they have a monopoly in the region. Hear that Kroger?
 
2014-04-02 09:19:01 AM  
To some doctors and parents, the tradition increasingly feels out of step with the uncomfortable public health realities of our day.

To "some doctors and parents" out your asshole selves and prepare to be impaled upon the backlash of a frustrated public. Allow us to make an example of you. Do we care? NO! We are Americans. We are OBESE and we want you to STFU or be beaten into submission. If we allow you to crush the dreams of our daughters, then the terrorists have won. What is next? We can't bring a 2 liter Pepsi on a plane? We can't carry 7 packets of Mentos when flying? We can't bring mashed potatoes and gravy leftovers home across country? If we allow this, then where does it end?
Oh, wait.
 
2014-04-02 09:21:01 AM  
You know, the Mint Thins that they sell at Dollar General are pretty good, and much more affordable. Plus you don't have to dress up to go shopping.
 
2014-04-02 09:21:48 AM  

sethen320: I was in Louisville for work about 2 years ago off and on for about 6 months. I had nothing but nice things to say about the people there.


Evidently, you did not meet me.
 
2014-04-02 09:21:53 AM  
Cold dead hands, etc.
 
2014-04-02 09:22:49 AM  
When fascism comes to America, it will be wearing a white lab coat and stethoscope.
 
2014-04-02 09:26:29 AM  

mrlewish: Stop questioning peoples right to make choices.


You will be told what's good for you AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!
 
2014-04-02 09:26:39 AM  

sethen320: QueenMamaBee: FTA: ....That's what John Mandrola, a heart doctor in Louisville, Ky.,   on his blog in March. (He also blogs for Medscape/Cardiology.)

That explains a lot. Louisville (Lou-uh-vul) is an evil place filled with horrible people.

I was in Louisville for work about 2 years ago off and on for about 6 months. I had nothing but nice things to say about the people there. I do admit though, while Louisville was nice Lexington was pretty cool too.


Most of my positive experiences in Louisville involve people who weren't from there. Central Kentuckians are far nicer. Horse people are by far the nicest of all, regardless of where they're from.
 
2014-04-02 09:27:03 AM  
Ridiculously overpriced mediocre cookies with proceeds going to a useless organization.
 
2014-04-02 09:27:33 AM  

gretzkyscores: When fascism comes to America, it will be wearing a white lab coat and stethoscope.


Actually, doctors are working on a snack food that is even more addictive and bad for you in order that they can force everyone into the doctor's office every month at minimum.  They want to get Girl Scout cookies out of the way to eliminate competition.  They are coupling their nefarious snacking scheme with increased legalization and decriminalization of marijuana.  That way, they will not only be able to control us completely, they will take all of our money while doing it.  And we will be eager to give it to them!  Those evil bastards.
 
2014-04-02 09:28:23 AM  

gretzkyscores: When fascism comes to America, it will be wearing a white lab coat and stethoscope.


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Or just scrubs :)
 
2014-04-02 09:28:28 AM  
Samoas: Other than Thin Mints, the only Girl Scout cookies worth eating.

My mother, a third-grade teacher, always has at least one Girl Scout in her class, so it's like a pipeline to the damned cookies. Four boxes of Samoas this year lasted two weeks.

/Yep, I sound fat...
 
2014-04-02 09:29:36 AM  
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2014-04-02 09:30:05 AM  
Nobody. And I mean NOBODY! Better lay a finger on my thin mints.

Keep your grubby, meddling, control freak, know-it-all, think of the children mitts offa mah cookhes!
 
2014-04-02 09:30:19 AM  

rebelyell2006: You know, the Mint Thins that they sell at Dollar General are pretty good, and much more affordable. Plus you don't have to dress up to go shopping.


That's why I don't go to the Walmart if I can help it.
 
2014-04-02 09:30:33 AM  

the801: keebler grasshoppers.

just as nice at half the price, and you don't have to deal with annoying little girls harassing you when you go into the grocery store.


You must have the toughest of lives to live.  Oh, the trouble a 30 second to 5 minute interaction with an 9-12 year old must cause you.
 
2014-04-02 09:32:10 AM  

Mr. Right: gretzkyscores: When fascism comes to America, it will be wearing a white lab coat and stethoscope.

Actually, doctors are working on a snack food that is even more addictive and bad for you in order that they can force everyone into the doctor's office every month at minimum.  They want to get Girl Scout cookies out of the way to eliminate competition.  They are coupling their nefarious snacking scheme with increased legalization and decriminalization of marijuana.  That way, they will not only be able to control us completely, they will take all of our money while doing it.  And we will be eager to give it to them!  Those evil bastards.


What freepers actually believe.
 
2014-04-02 09:32:36 AM  
Anyone know where I can get those lemon cookies the Girl Scouts used to sell? They haven't sold them in like two years. For some reason they are like crack for me (not a big chocolate person). Thanks!
 
2014-04-02 09:33:23 AM  
As the parent of a former girl scout, I can tell you the cookie sale is a scam, that teaches the girls nothing positive about community, finances or effort and reward efficiency.  It teaches them to get fat, and that their parents will do lots of free work for minimal gain.
 
2014-04-02 09:33:48 AM  
"But a few brave voices argue it's no longer all that delightful to see little girls peddling packaged cookies, or to buy them in the name of supporting the community."

Brave? I don't think you know the meaning of the word. Now FOAD!
 
2014-04-02 09:35:19 AM  
Ever since the Girl Guides higher-ups didn't kowtow to the anti-GMO twatbags, I've decided to buy their cookies by the ton.

//Will share with co-workers
 
2014-04-02 09:39:01 AM  
""The problem is that selling high-fat sugar-laden cookies to an increasingly calorie-addicted populace is no longer congruent with [the Girl Scouts' aim to make the world a better place]." That's what John Mandrola"

as he waddled his way across the McDonald's parking lot for his fifth Big Mac of the day, sipping his 300 ounce diet soda.
 
2014-04-02 09:39:38 AM  

Banacek: Anyone know where I can get those lemon cookies the Girl Scouts used to sell? They haven't sold them in like two years. For some reason they are like crack for me (not a big chocolate person). Thanks!


The Lemonades? Those are awesome. Now you have to wait until next year.

I was thinking of buying a bunch of Thin Mints and then reselling them about six months from now for about $8 a box. Profit.
 
2014-04-02 09:40:23 AM  
I'm sure it's merely coincidence that the right-wing is also running their mouths about boycotting Girl Scout cookies because lesbos.
 
2014-04-02 09:41:15 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: They aren't that good to begin with, and I'm not a fan of people using their children as weird social status pawns to one-up the Joneses because they forced their employees to "voluntarily" buy a dozen boxes each. Teach the kids to bake the same cookies or something with normal ingredients.


Troops used to bake their own cookies. Now we have gubment regulations.

I make my kid do all her selling. I do take a sheet to work, but she had to put together the marketing plan and advertising. I also just left the sheet on the table and didn't say a word to anyone about it.
 
2014-04-02 09:41:54 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Maybe more people should join my organization - The Society For Telling People To Go Fark Themselves


Your ideas intrigue me. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2014-04-02 09:43:12 AM  
Remember, if it gives you pleasure it is of Satan and should be avoided.
 
2014-04-02 09:43:44 AM  

laughin: Banacek: Anyone know where I can get those lemon cookies the Girl Scouts used to sell? They haven't sold them in like two years. For some reason they are like crack for me (not a big chocolate person). Thanks!

The Lemonades? Those are awesome. Now you have to wait until next year.

I was thinking of buying a bunch of Thin Mints and then reselling them about six months from now for about $8 a box. Profit.


They don't sell them where I live for some reason. God they are good. You can have your Thin Mints, just give me my Lemonades.
 
2014-04-02 09:47:41 AM  
Old and broken.

Need a new con.
 
2014-04-02 09:48:10 AM  
Some people really need to fark off and keep their ignorant comments to themselves.

I've been on a diet since July of last year, it's really more a combination of losing weight and eating/living healthier. I've been averaging 5 lbs a month weight loss. Back in Feb I bought two boxes of Girl Scout cookies, I ate half of each box the first night and finished them off the next. I still reached my goal of 5 lbs that month. You can enjoy the occasional treat now and then and still be healthy and lose weight. The problem isn't eating GS cookies, the problem is everything else people are shoving down their throats the other 11 months out of the year.
 
2014-04-02 09:48:53 AM  
Just to be more positive, here are some better fundraising ideas.
 
2014-04-02 09:51:16 AM  
Get off your fat, lazy asses and you can eat all the cookies you want. America...where a doctor will recommend a pill before recommending excercise.
 
2014-04-02 09:51:42 AM  

Banacek: Anyone know where I can get those lemon cookies the Girl Scouts used to sell? They haven't sold them in like two years. For some reason they are like crack for me (not a big chocolate person). Thanks!


Here you go: Link
 
2014-04-02 09:51:49 AM  

ReapTheChaos: Some people really need to fark off and keep their ignorant comments to themselves.

I've been on a diet since July of last year, it's really more a combination of losing weight and eating/living healthier. I've been averaging 5 lbs a month weight loss. Back in Feb I bought two boxes of Girl Scout cookies, I ate half of each box the first night and finished them off the next. I still reached my goal of 5 lbs that month. You can enjoy the occasional treat now and then and still be healthy and lose weight. The problem isn't eating GS cookies, the problem is everything else people are shoving down their throats the other 11 months out of the year.


I'm a volunteer driver for the local senior center.  I took a man grocery shopping yesterday.  He was diabetic and had already lost one leg.  You don't even want to know what kind of crap was in his grocery cart.
 
2014-04-02 09:52:18 AM  
My girlfriend's roommates ate all the girl scout cookies I bought.  I don't understand how they thought I would not notice.
 
2014-04-02 09:57:53 AM  
People are stupid and make bad decisions.  Evolution at 11.
 
2014-04-02 09:59:13 AM  

maram500: Samoas: Other than Thin Mints, the only Girl Scout cookies worth eating.


 Personally I like the peanut butter-chocolate ones.
 
2014-04-02 09:59:32 AM  
Cookie sales are a scam, I donate directly to the troop.

"Cookie revenue (65 to 75 percent of the cookie retail price), of course, goes to local Girl Scout councils, which typically spend it on Girl Scout activities, camps and properties this multimillion-dollar organization, to pay for staff and administrative costs and buildings."
 
2014-04-02 10:00:37 AM  

Savage Belief: Mr. Right: gretzkyscores: When fascism comes to America, it will be wearing a white lab coat and stethoscope.

Actually, doctors are working on a snack food that is even more addictive and bad for you in order that they can force everyone into the doctor's office every month at minimum.  They want to get Girl Scout cookies out of the way to eliminate competition.  They are coupling their nefarious snacking scheme with increased legalization and decriminalization of marijuana.  That way, they will not only be able to control us completely, they will take all of our money while doing it.  And we will be eager to give it to them!  Those evil bastards.

What freepers actually believe.


I believe that's the joke? Might have to take the sarcasmo-meter back to the shop.
 
2014-04-02 10:03:48 AM  
The author is an idiot.

There is nothing wrong or unhealthy about eating girl scout cookies. Portion size is the problem. Eating a whole box in one sitting is the problem. I always 'buy' a case from my daughter and they last a really long time. When I open a new sleeve I only eat a couple and put the rest in a Tupperware. A box will take a week for the whole household to nibble down to nothing. Don't blame the girl scouts for poor impulse control.

/those cookies pay for almost everything in girl scouting
 
2014-04-02 10:03:58 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: /on the other hand, if it wasn't for parents selling them at work, i'd never buy any at all


I have a daughter selling them annually now. My rule is that I will buy cookies from any Girl Scout I see selling them. No girl, no sale. Next door neighbor in the same troop? Yep, even if she mistakenly stops by twice. Girls at the store, yep. Parents at work, not once.
 
2014-04-02 10:05:55 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: CruJones: Oh fark off. Cookies and a healthy diet are not mutually exclusive. If you can't keep your gaping pie hole shut that's your fault.

/ I am however tired of parents selling the cookies

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/on the other hand, if it wasn't for parents selling them at work, i'd never buy any at all


I make my daughter come to work one or two days with me to do the initial sale and distribution.  After that my co-workers know where I am and come by to order more if they want, which they do.

/Amazing how many boxes you can sell when you hit up grad students and post-docs in the late afternoon.
//We hit the neighborhood also.
 
2014-04-02 10:06:39 AM  

the801: you don't have to deal with annoying little girls harassing you when you go into the grocery store.


But then when will I get the chance to try out my new pick-up lines?

// ... what?
 
2014-04-02 10:08:28 AM  
Girl scout cookies are over rated.

Still buy a couple boxes if there's a knock at the door.
 
2014-04-02 10:08:48 AM  
Hey look a pearl clutching thread.
 
2014-04-02 10:12:29 AM  
If Girl Scout cookies are the last bit of pleasure in your life, you need to reexamine your life.  The cookies are neither nirvana nor crap, they're cookies and my opinion on cookies is, "so many cookies, so little time."

I favor Pepperidge Farm Sausalitos, chocolate chip cookies with macadamia chunks.
 
2014-04-02 10:13:04 AM  
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This is why professional photographers are still necessary.
 
2014-04-02 10:14:31 AM  
I can get as health nutty as anyone, and don't eat these crap cookies - but just like it is not my place to tell a smoker not to smoke, then it is not my right to tell a fatty not to eat cookies. I do hate the parent cookie whores though.

But... you should probably step away from the cookies.
 
2014-04-02 10:18:19 AM  
Not every last morsel of food eaten has to conform to ideal dietary standards on its own. It's quite possible to eat an entire box of those cookies in one sitting and remain perfectly healthy.
 
2014-04-02 10:20:02 AM  

Ker_Thwap: Just to be more positive, here are some better fundraising ideas.


There are lots of ways to raise money.  Unfortunately every farking organization is trying to raise money now a days. Both my kids are in scouts and both sell stuff.  Add to that band sales, school sales since the state would rather give tax cuts then fund education to actually produce an educated work force and any other organization looking for money  it can get over whelming.

/Have my daughter hit up coworkers for GS cookies and my son will sell popcorn for his cub scout troop.
//Just write a check for the other BS fund raisers the school manage to put out.
 
2014-04-02 10:23:36 AM  
Or you could, you know, just have some self control.
 
2014-04-02 10:24:35 AM  
GS cookies are about 80% hype.  20% mass hysteria
 
2014-04-02 10:29:39 AM  

bmwericus: I hope that the brilliant headline will become a FARK meme and regular.

Love the cookies, no longer in my diet though.


The IFTEOELBOPFLUYBFTSROD does have a nice ring to it.
 
2014-04-02 10:30:04 AM  

xtalman: Ker_Thwap: Just to be more positive, here are some better fundraising ideas.

There are lots of ways to raise money.  Unfortunately every farking organization is trying to raise money now a days. Both my kids are in scouts and both sell stuff.  Add to that band sales, school sales since the state would rather give tax cuts then fund education to actually produce an educated work force and any other organization looking for money  it can get over whelming.

/Have my daughter hit up coworkers for GS cookies and my son will sell popcorn for his cub scout troop.
//Just write a check for the other BS fund raisers the school manage to put out.


All the more reason to focus on fundraisers that are actually profitable, you can have less of them, and spend less time on repetitive fundraisers.  Think about how many parent hours it takes per troop, to sell, pick up, distribute, and deliver those stupid cookies.  It's kind of a burden for those helpful parents who get suckered into doing the bulk of the work for the entire troop.
 
2014-04-02 10:30:20 AM  

wren337: Cookie sales are a scam, I donate directly to the troop.

"Cookie revenue (65 to 75 percent of the cookie retail price), of course, goes to local Girl Scout councils, which typically spend it on Girl Scout activities, camps and properties this multimillion-dollar organization, to pay for staff and administrative costs and buildings."


Roughly the same split for the BSA popcorn. 10% National, 60% Council (most of the funds are dedicated to the Scout Camps, which DOES include staff and buildings), 30% troop.
 
2014-04-02 10:34:04 AM  
First they came for the thin mints, and I stopped the purge right then and there because I will seriously fark up anyone who tries to take those delicious cookies away from me.
 
2014-04-02 10:39:43 AM  
Get a grip, Lustig. For christ's sake.
 
2014-04-02 10:41:52 AM  
Oh sure, blame the seller and not the fat diabetic hogs that have no self control and must gorge on 10 boxes of mana that is thin mints.

Seriously, how hard is it to hand them a 5, 10, or 20 and say no thanks to the cookies. I got diagnosed with diabetes last year and did give up my annual Girl Scout cookie binge. I still gave them the money as a donation, probably did more good that way.

/Been 12 months 80 pounds and a drop in my A1C by 6 points. Diabetes can be beaten, you just have to be willing to move your fat ass. Yes I was a fat ass.
 
2014-04-02 10:42:41 AM  

Ker_Thwap: xtalman: Ker_Thwap: Just to be more positive, here are some better fundraising ideas.

There are lots of ways to raise money.  Unfortunately every farking organization is trying to raise money now a days. Both my kids are in scouts and both sell stuff.  Add to that band sales, school sales since the state would rather give tax cuts then fund education to actually produce an educated work force and any other organization looking for money  it can get over whelming.

/Have my daughter hit up coworkers for GS cookies and my son will sell popcorn for his cub scout troop.
//Just write a check for the other BS fund raisers the school manage to put out.

All the more reason to focus on fundraisers that are actually profitable, you can have less of them, and spend less time on repetitive fundraisers.  Think about how many parent hours it takes per troop, to sell, pick up, distribute, and deliver those stupid cookies.  It's kind of a burden for those helpful parents who get suckered into doing the bulk of the work for the entire troop.


Agree completely.  The cookie and popcorn sales do produce a bulk of the troops funds.  Have spent many hours working with them and will end up spending more.  I just get a bit irritated by the frequency of some of the fund raising and it seems to get worse all the time.

/Don't mind the food sales.  Hate the magazine sales.
 
2014-04-02 10:58:17 AM  

minoridiot: One of my daughter's troops still have some cookies left.  Anybody need anything?


Tagalongs?
 
2014-04-02 11:07:00 AM  
/gets up on her Girl Scout soapbox:
- Keebler is one of the official bakers for Girl Scout cookies; however, there are a few "slight" formulation changes in the ones on the shelves in the store versus what the GSUSA and Councils sell, so when you savor that Grasshopper, you are savoring a Thin Mint (more or less).

- There are TWO bakeries for Girl Scout cookies in the US -- ABC and Little Brownies; there are some standard cookies and then there are variations (e.g. Thin Mints / Tagalongs versus Thank U Berry Munch and Thanks A Lot)

- The purpose of the sale is to focus on running a small business (where traditionally in many industries, the profit margin is small -- for example, my 8th graders made 70 cents on a 4 dollar box of cookies -- in some industries, that's not a small profit, but it's not 100% - you have to pay the baker, the packagers, the shippers, the marketers, etc. -- this is a great learning experience) not the cookies - it teaches Product Knowledge, Customer Service, Money Management, Budgeting, Safety, etc. The cookies are vehicle (it could be replaced with anything easily)

- Girl Scouts gives opportunities to many girls who otherwise, wouldn't be able to go places or do things and tries to prepare them for life after school - it opens up Scholarship opportunities to them for Leadership; if they opt for the Military and earn the highest award, they can one rank higher (like the Eagle)

- The Eagle and the Gold award are NOT the same or achieved in the same way

- I focus on what my girls want to do and ensure they understand what a trip will cost and how to close that gap through the two product sales that Girl Scouts have with other solutions (that's the point)

- Lemon Oroes are VERY similar to the Lemon Cremes that were sold two years ago

- Everything in moderation, right? It's not the troops fault if you can't be moderate.

- /defensively / When my Troops sell, we actually suggest donations to the Troops overseas or freezing extras. If folks say no, we are respectful and thank them for their time. We try to be LOW pressure - we know that financially, not everyone can afford, that there are folks that, for health reasons, cannot have. / defensively /

- IRS rules dictate what we cannot do for sales, so sadly until GSUSA replaces cookies with widgets, we are limited in our fund raiser options.

- Please contact GSUSA (not individual Council's) if you have a product idea better than cookies that will generate equal or better profits for troops, be as widely accepted, turnkey sales and appropriate for girls 5-19.

:)
/steps down and resumes camp prep for her meeting tonight
 
2014-04-02 11:13:37 AM  

gretzkyscores: When fascism comes to America, it will be wearing a white lab coat and stethoscope.


Sexy, sexy fascism.
 
2014-04-02 11:18:50 AM  

Ker_Thwap: As the parent of a former girl scout, I can tell you the cookie sale is a scam, that teaches the girls nothing positive about community, finances or effort and reward efficiency.  It teaches them to get fat, and that their parents will do lots of free work for minimal gain.


No, I'm pretty sure you taught them that.
 
2014-04-02 11:19:37 AM  

the801: keebler grasshoppers.

just as nice at half the price, and you don't have to deal with annoying little girls harassing you when you go into the grocery store.


As I recall, Keebler is the company that actually makes Girl Scout cookies (or one of them, at least). So Grasshoppers may actually be identical to Thin Mints.
 
2014-04-02 11:27:43 AM  

xtalman: Ker_Thwap: Just to be more positive, here are some better fundraising ideas.

There are lots of ways to raise money.  Unfortunately every farking organization is trying to raise money now a days. Both my kids are in scouts and both sell stuff.  Add to that band sales, school sales since the state would rather give tax cuts then fund education to actually produce an educated work force and any other organization looking for money  it can get over whelming.

/Have my daughter hit up coworkers for GS cookies and my son will sell popcorn for his cub scout troop.
//Just write a check for the other BS fund raisers the school manage to put out.


If your state raises taxes for schools you will get more administrator salary, not more teachers, not more buildings, not more books. They only use bond money for those pesky, necessary things. This is known as the Law of Educational Funding.
 
2014-04-02 11:31:46 AM  
I take solace in knowing that these assholes will die too

/no matter what they do
 
2014-04-02 11:37:18 AM  
What a bunch of pervs....talking about eating Girl Scouts 'cookies'.....
images.buycostumes.com
 
2014-04-02 11:40:57 AM  
Would I be surprised if the anti-sugar, anti-fat, anti-anything except leaves and twigs crowds are proven just as wrong as the anti-egg, anti-chocolate, anti-butter, anti-coffee groups have been? No.
 
2014-04-02 11:51:18 AM  
My only problem with making kids sell things is that I have often experienced young children I don't know knocking on my door without supervision to sell things for school or scouting, and I've often seen children under 15 in front of stores by themselves selling GS cookies, chocolate bars, etc. Very dangerous practice and it is not safe for them.
 
2014-04-02 11:58:03 AM  
So we are supposed to cut off all deliciousness because people can't control their own intake? This idea sounds a lot like the war on drugs that works so well. Except instead of having to go to illegal steps to acquire your vice you can just go down to the local grocery store and get the equivalent. These people wouldn't dare take on Kraft or the like, but they sure as hell are pretty vocal about some little girls selling cookies.
 
2014-04-02 12:06:34 PM  

Bunkyb123: My only problem with making kids sell things is that I have often experienced young children I don't know knocking on my door without supervision to sell things for school or scouting, and I've often seen children under 15 in front of stores by themselves selling GS cookies, chocolate bars, etc. Very dangerous practice and it is not safe for them.


What are you planning on doing to them?
 
2014-04-02 12:09:28 PM  

Wangiss: Ker_Thwap: As the parent of a former girl scout, I can tell you the cookie sale is a scam, that teaches the girls nothing positive about community, finances or effort and reward efficiency.  It teaches them to get fat, and that their parents will do lots of free work for minimal gain.

No, I'm pretty sure you taught them that.


I'm pretty sure I taught them about the importance of community, financial responsibility, effort and reward.  Is that what you were referring to?  My now adult children are neither fat, nor expect others to do their work for them.  Why would you assume the opposite based on my simple statement?  Just trying to be contrary?
 
2014-04-02 12:14:33 PM  
Sell better cookies, and I might buy some, you little twats.
 
2014-04-02 12:21:30 PM  
Good. Stop with donating to the corporations and start donating to the troops directly.
 
2014-04-02 12:27:25 PM  

Alassra: /gets up on her Girl Scout soapbox:
- Keebler is one of the official bakers for Girl Scout cookies; however, there are a few "slight" formulation changes in the ones on the shelves in the store versus what the GSUSA and Councils sell, so when you savor that Grasshopper, you are savoring a Thin Mint (more or less).

- There are TWO bakeries for Girl Scout cookies in the US -- ABC and Little Brownies; there are some standard cookies and then there are variations (e.g. Thin Mints / Tagalongs versus Thank U Berry Munch and Thanks A Lot)

- The purpose of the sale is to focus on running a small business (where traditionally in many industries, the profit margin is small -- for example, my 8th graders made 70 cents on a 4 dollar box of cookies -- in some industries, that's not a small profit, but it's not 100% - you have to pay the baker, the packagers, the shippers, the marketers, etc. -- this is a great learning experience) not the cookies - it teaches Product Knowledge, Customer Service, Money Management, Budgeting, Safety, etc. The cookies are vehicle (it could be replaced with anything easily)

- Girl Scouts gives opportunities to many girls who otherwise, wouldn't be able to go places or do things and tries to prepare them for life after school - it opens up Scholarship opportunities to them for Leadership; if they opt for the Military and earn the highest award, they can one rank higher (like the Eagle)

- The Eagle and the Gold award are NOT the same or achieved in the same way

- I focus on what my girls want to do and ensure they understand what a trip will cost and how to close that gap through the two product sales that Girl Scouts have with other solutions (that's the point)

- Lemon Oroes are VERY similar to the Lemon Cremes that were sold two years ago

- Everything in moderation, right? It's not the troops fault if you can't be moderate.

- /defensively / When my Troops sell, we actually suggest donations to the Troops overseas or freezing extras. If folks ...


Eh, on an organizational level, what you say makes sense to support the organization.  I wonder however if the organization is still supporting the individual girls through this fundraiser.  It's kind of disingenuous to suggest that it's a small business teaching tool, when the girls aren't doing the work.  At best it prepares the older children who actually pay attention to the process, how to run a soul sucking franchise spun off from a large corporation.  The ideals if the Girl Scouts is still awesome, I'm just not sure if the fundraising efforts are wagging the dog.
 
2014-04-02 12:29:43 PM  
Don't the Girl Scouts only get like 1% of the proceeds? That seems a bigger concern than people's self-control.
 
2014-04-02 12:34:22 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Wangiss: Ker_Thwap: As the parent of a former girl scout, I can tell you the cookie sale is a scam, that teaches the girls nothing positive about community, finances or effort and reward efficiency.  It teaches them to get fat, and that their parents will do lots of free work for minimal gain.

No, I'm pretty sure you taught them that.

I'm pretty sure I taught them about the importance of community, financial responsibility, effort and reward.  Is that what you were referring to?  My now adult children are neither fat, nor expect others to do their work for them.  Why would you assume the opposite based on my simple statement?  Just trying to be contrary?


Oh, I see. Your kids didn't learn the lessons you accused the cookie sales drives of teaching. Right?
 
2014-04-02 12:35:24 PM  
Best Home Movies episode ever.

/need a GIF of McGurk rolling up to the rescue.
 
2014-04-02 12:36:40 PM  
Surprised that Gwyneth Paltrow didn't have something to contribute here...
 
2014-04-02 12:39:25 PM  

Mr. Right: What's the big fuss?  A few cookies now and then aren't going to hurt anybody.  They only sell them for one period a year.  And it's not like you're going to eat too many  - they come in the convenient single-serving containers to prevent over--indulgence.


As the article points out, it's only a few cookies that they want you to enjoy "in moderation". But after that it's Easter candy which Nestle wants you to enjoy "in moderation". Then it's McRib time which is fine as long as it's "in moderation". Dangit, it's already 4th of July time where it would be crazy to not have a ton of BBQ, and rest assured, Cargill and Smithfield think it's fine as long as it's "in moderation". Labor Day is fine too, as long as you're sticking to "moderation". Don't forget to stop in to Hardee's regulary, those 2/3 lb bacon cheeseburgers are completely fine as long you don't have one all the time.

Wow, Thanksgiving already - Tyson says it's OK to gorge on turkey as long as it's "in moderation". Then you have about ten different parties between that and New Year's, where the host insists that all that fatty sugary food won't hurt as long as it's not all the time.

That "in moderation" might work for naturally skinny people, but for the rest of us, it's easier to stick to the steady course.
 
2014-04-02 12:42:33 PM  

Wangiss: Oh, I see. Your kids didn't learn the lessons you accused the cookie sales drives of teaching. Right?


Right.  I have no idea if you have kids or not, but it's pretty simple.  When you notice your child come in contact with something undesirable, you speak with them about it.  It can be as simple as seeing something sexist in a movie, you point out the sexist bit, which often leads to a discussion on the pros and cons of that behavior.  One's kids therefore learn to pay attention to their surroundings, and become intelligent adults who you don't hate.  So, yes, my kids learned a different lesson from cookie sale than the average conformist's child may have learned.
 
2014-04-02 12:47:59 PM  
meh.  it's over-priced hype. at half the price i MIGHT buy some.  for the most part, even the ones I like are just mediocre cookies.  and ive never known what the organization does.  i know Boy Scouts do some actual outdoorsy stuff, giving out badges for accomplishments, etc., but I always thought Girl Scouts were more like a home-ec version of that, getting badges for learning how to vaccuum and do dishes.  i always thought it was kind of an outdated organization.
 
2014-04-02 12:48:33 PM  
I can't eat Girl Scout Cookies for various reasons, but when I come across a troop selling them, I either buy some to give away or I give them a donation of at least $5.00.

Schools used to sell (cement) candy bars to support their sports teams. Various groups held bake sales. Churches and assorted organizations had periodic pancake breakfasts. There are regular chili cook offs -- with many a pot of chili containing ingredients I'd never consider putting in, and hot dog carts are all over some of the major cities.

The Fast Food Industry decided to 'supersize' it's menus decades ago and I've not noticed anyone complaining about those restaurants which offer 'challenges' of 5 pound burgers laden with cheese, eggs, sauces and bacon or an enormous steak served on a platter and not a plate.

Then we have the eating contests where folks pay to watch others cram down anything from chicken wings to hotdogs in a limited amount of time. Don't forget Circus Food, where people go out of the way to strain their brains to find and make whatever hideously calorie laden snack they can dream up and deep fry. From deep friend candy bars to ice cream. Corn dogs aren't exactly a health food either.

So, who is picked on? Girl Scouts, whose seasonal sales of innocuous, traditional cookies supports not only their fine organization, but contributes to their communities. The Girl Scouts has been an honorable organization for decades, teaching many skills.

With innumerable other sources of unhealthy foods out there, many of which are encouraged to create even worse products, the Girl Scouts shouldn't even be on the list.

I think there's a bar which sells a hotdog, wrapped in bacon, wrapped in hamburger, dipped in cornmeal and deep fried. TV sells a device to make bacon cups, encouraging you to eat even more stuff with delicious, unhealthy bacon. Then the popular brands of microwave popcorn, whose solidified oils melt and add flavoring, but whose vapors, if inhaled too often from a steaming bag, can cause a lung disease. That's still on the shelves, unchanged.

With the list of far worse foods steadily growing, I think Girl Scout cookies are the least of our concerns.
 
2014-04-02 12:54:49 PM  
Stop selling Girl Scout Cookies?
ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2014-04-02 12:55:21 PM  

The Flexecutioner: meh.  it's over-priced hype. at half the price i MIGHT buy some.  for the most part, even the ones I like are just mediocre cookies.  and ive never known what the organization does.  i know Boy Scouts do some actual outdoorsy stuff, giving out badges for accomplishments, etc., but I always thought Girl Scouts were more like a home-ec version of that, getting badges for learning how to vaccuum and do dishes.  i always thought it was kind of an outdated organization.


They actually do quite a bit of good.  It's not the 50s anymore, so it's far less home economics, and far more whatever interests the girls and troop leaders.  Yeah, there are stupid "merit badges" like on how to apply makeup, but they also have leadership, athletic, scholastic and yes, even outdoorsy awards.
 
2014-04-02 12:55:29 PM  
Ker_Thwap: Alassra: /gets up on her Girl Scout soapbox:
- Keebler is one of the official bakers for Girl Scout cookies; however, there are a few "slight" formulation changes in the ones on the shelves in the store versus what the GSUSA and Councils sell, so when you savor that Grasshopper, you are savoring a Thin Mint (more or less).

- There are TWO bakeries for Girl Scout cookies in the US -- ABC and Little Brownies; there are some standard cookies and then there are variations (e.g. Thin Mints / Tagalongs versus Thank U Berry Munch and Thanks A Lot)

- The purpose of the sale is to focus on running a small business (where traditionally in many industries, the profit margin is small -- for example, my 8th graders made 70 cents on a 4 dollar box of cookies -- in some industries, that's not a small profit, but it's not 100% - you have to pay the baker, the packagers, the shippers, the marketers, etc. -- this is a great learning experience) not the cookies - it teaches Product Knowledge, Customer Service, Money Management, Budgeting, Safety, etc. The cookies are vehicle (it could be replaced with anything easily)

- Girl Scouts gives opportunities to many girls who otherwise, wouldn't be able to go places or do things and tries to prepare them for life after school - it opens up Scholarship opportunities to them for Leadership; if they opt for the Military and earn the highest award, they can one rank higher (like the Eagle)

- The Eagle and the Gold award are NOT the same or achieved in the same way

- I focus on what my girls want to do and ensure they understand what a trip will cost and how to close that gap through the two product sales that Girl Scouts have with other solutions (that's the point)

- Lemon Oroes are VERY similar to the Lemon Cremes that were sold two years ago

- Everything in moderation, right? It's not the troops fault if you can't be moderate.

- /defensively / When my Troops sell, we actually suggest donations to the Troops overseas or freezing extras. ...

=================
I agree that there are a LOT of parents doing the work of the girls, but again, it's how you prep and coach the girls to execute. I have two Troops and we work hard to coach the GIRLS to do the work (aka "run their business") and plan for what they WANT do with the profits (not my agenda).

Girl Scouts is really decentralized, so what happens in Council X is not necessarily true in Councils Y, Z, F, so I always struggle when there are generalizations made about Girl Scouts. There are some functions that are GSUSA, but almost always, the individual Councils are the ones making the decisions first. This is also something that frustrates volunteers -- we don't even all have the same technology, so if you move from one Council to another, your registration, training, etc., may not even be recognized.

Even still, as long as you keep the focus on the girls, I figure I can't go wrong. I am helping to prepare them for life after high school - no matter what path they take.
 
2014-04-02 01:03:27 PM  
Alassra:

Admittedly, most of my experience with the girl scouts was with the younger girls, which makes me hate the stupid cookie program.  In my town it all kind of broke up as they got older.  It sounds like you're doing well however, and as you said keeping the focus on the kids.
 
2014-04-02 01:33:50 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Wangiss: Oh, I see. Your kids didn't learn the lessons you accused the cookie sales drives of teaching. Right?

Right.  I have no idea if you have kids or not, but it's pretty simple.  When you notice your child come in contact with something undesirable, you speak with them about it.  It can be as simple as seeing something sexist in a movie, you point out the sexist bit, which often leads to a discussion on the pros and cons of that behavior.  One's kids therefore learn to pay attention to their surroundings, and become intelligent adults who you don't hate.  So, yes, my kids learned a different lesson from cookie sale than the average conformist's child may have learned.


Got it. I do have kids. I was just pointing out that if your kids had learned the same lesson you fear other, less engaged parents' children learned from the experience, then it would be your fault just like it's the bad parents' fault. My kids are the best behaved in the neighborhood because, as it sounds you do, I blame myself when they behave badly. When my son (at age 4) got a hold of matches and lit them outside, he got a spanking and enough lecture that he could explain to me in his own words what he did wrong and why he will never do it again. He hasn't given any similar trouble since, but he knows: what will happen if he does; that we're instructing him for his safety and the the safety of those around him; and that we still love him when he makes bad choices. I also know that I failed to teach him in advance about the dangers of things in the house, so now his older sister (age seven) is sharpening and using knives, practicing moving hot things in the oven, and we've had more conversations with all the kids about the various dangerous objects and substances in the house.  I'm glad you're proactively parenting instead of abdicating that responsibility to ANY other group, even one with as lofty goals and ideals as the GSA.
 
2014-04-02 01:37:39 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Alassra:

Admittedly, most of my experience with the girl scouts was with the younger girls, which makes me hate the stupid cookie program.  In my town it all kind of broke up as they got older.  It sounds like you're doing well however, and as you said keeping the focus on the kids.

===============

Those first few years (and especially now that Daisies can sell Cookies) are full of drama llamas and chaos. Folks that suddenly have CASES of cookies who haven't planned well or managed things are overwhelmed. We try to give them training and support to get through that, so that when they get to their Brownie / Junior level, they are seasoned pros.

Usually, those crazy parents don't last (not always). Right now, I am blessed with 10 sets of parents that are awesome and keep the focus on the girls so we don't see as much of that.
 
2014-04-02 02:37:46 PM  

ZeroPly: Mr. Right: What's the big fuss?  A few cookies now and then aren't going to hurt anybody.  They only sell them for one period a year.  And it's not like you're going to eat too many  - they come in the convenient single-serving containers to prevent over--indulgence.

As the article points out, it's only a few cookies that they want you to enjoy "in moderation". But after that it's Easter candy which Nestle wants you to enjoy "in moderation". Then it's McRib time which is fine as long as it's "in moderation". Dangit, it's already 4th of July time where it would be crazy to not have a ton of BBQ, and rest assured, Cargill and Smithfield think it's fine as long as it's "in moderation". Labor Day is fine too, as long as you're sticking to "moderation". Don't forget to stop in to Hardee's regulary, those 2/3 lb bacon cheeseburgers are completely fine as long you don't have one all the time.

Wow, Thanksgiving already - Tyson says it's OK to gorge on turkey as long as it's "in moderation". Then you have about ten different parties between that and New Year's, where the host insists that all that fatty sugary food won't hurt as long as it's not all the time.

That "in moderation" might work for naturally skinny people, but for the rest of us, it's easier to stick to the steady course.


Exercise will solve your dilemma.  Don't have to join a gym, just take a couple-mile walk or hike in the woods 2-3 times a week - that's all you have to do.
 
2014-04-02 02:38:23 PM  
Instead of cookies, perhaps they could sell...

imageshack.com
 
2014-04-02 02:54:18 PM  
I hate girl scout cookies, well, the people who produce them anyway... they use slave labor and violate child labor laws and they make billions...
 
2014-04-02 03:28:59 PM  
Aw helllll no.
 
2014-04-02 03:33:03 PM  

mrlewish: Fark off. Stop questioning peoples right to make choices.

interfering with the corporations' right to make your choices.
 
2014-04-02 04:02:08 PM  
media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-02 04:45:52 PM  
I tell the idiots in front fo Krogers that the cookies taste like shiat. If I want good cookies, I'll bake them myself.  Or they can join 4H and FFA and learn how to do it themselves.
 
2014-04-03 06:14:32 PM  

Captain PTMB: I will find this doctor, then shoot him in the face with bullets made from my last remaining box of Caramel De-Lites SAMOAS.  Then I will eat my last box of Peanut Butter Sandwiches DO-SI-DO'S while I dance on his grave.  Then I will I eat my last box of the Chocolate covered Peant Butter TAGALONGS while I jog a few miles to burn the calories off.  Then, I will not complain about how Girl Scouts made me fat, because I WAS THE ONE WHO CHOSE TO EAT THE FARKING COOKIES, DR. BLOOMBERG.


Fixed that for you, you poor, benighted soul from the area where the true gustatory glamourbomb of tree-elf-baked cookies sold by girls naming themselves for the Brownie-fae has not yet trod and the heretics of ABC Bakeries still make their own attempts at the One True Cookie Family in the style of John Frum's followers. :D

(Yes, I razz a bit, but I honestly did not know until well into my thirties that Samoas were not referred to as Samoas in a good part of the US.  It also doesn't help things much that the main Keebler plant that is used to make the Samoa-branded/Do-Si-Do-branded/etc. cookies (Little Brownie Bakers) is in fact based in my hometown.  I freely admit to some Hometown Favouritism. :D)

/is weak against Girl Scouts...so weak
//let's just say I knew folks who had to sell 150 boxes of Girl Scout cookies to get to Kings Island...harder than one would think in the 80s
///despairs for modern Scouts as to how the hell they afford to go to camp or Kings Island now by selling cookies since it's hard for them to go door-to-door between no-soliciting rules in HOAs and helicopter parents
 
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