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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-02 11:33:58 AM  
And of course, you should never confuse New Guinea with the three totally separate African nations of Guinea, Equatorial Guinea or Guinea-Bissau. But you'd never do that, would you?

Don't be silly, Guinea is in South America, next to Venezuela.
 
2014-04-02 11:56:14 AM  
5 simple bits of geography the author of this piece always gets wrong, and assumes you do as well.
 
2014-04-02 12:02:07 PM  
"Technically it [Central America] actually belongs to North America "

Geography is a lot more technical than I realized.
 
2014-04-02 12:08:14 PM  
A trivia question that I find often trips up even people who are reasonably competent at geography; "How many sovereign nations are there in North America?" Some people even get really mad at the answer.
 
2014-04-02 01:12:40 PM  
I never knew there was a difference between the UK and GB.  Never really cared, but didn't know all the same.
 
2014-04-02 01:26:38 PM  

Sybarite: A trivia question that I find often trips up even people who are reasonably competent at geography; "How many sovereign nations are there in North America?" Some people even get really mad at the answer.


Well, that depends: are you asking in French?


/I imagine the most popular answer is 3
//But then you've got all the non-Caribbean island thingies (Greenland, Bermuda, etc..)
///Not to mention whether or not the questioner is using a geographical or political version of "North America"
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-02 01:51:24 PM  
Indian tribes may or may not count as sovereign nations.

And then there's that bit of France off the coast of Canada, but that's not a whole sovereign nation.
 
2014-04-02 02:27:34 PM  
FTFA: Canberra is the capital city of Australia, not Sydney or Melbourne.

So there are people out there who think the capital of Sydney is Canberra? So then, what is the capital of Melbourne?
 
2014-04-02 02:27:35 PM  

Sybarite: A trivia question that I find often trips up even people who are reasonably competent at geography; "How many sovereign nations are there in North America?" Some people even get really mad at the answer.


Just one, run by the Lizard People.
 
2014-04-02 04:39:32 PM  

Loomy: Sybarite: A trivia question that I find often trips up even people who are reasonably competent at geography; "How many sovereign nations are there in North America?" Some people even get really mad at the answer.

Well, that depends: are you asking in French?


/I imagine the most popular answer is 3
//But then you've got all the non-Caribbean island thingies (Greenland, Bermuda, etc..)
///Not to mention whether or not the questioner is using a geographical or political version of "North America"


i sense the trick question is being asked by someone of First Nations persuasion. To which I ask, how?
 
2014-04-02 06:37:44 PM  

ZAZ: And of course, you should never confuse New Guinea with the three totally separate African nations of Guinea, Equatorial Guinea or Guinea-Bissau. But you'd never do that, would you?

Don't be silly, Guinea is in South America, next to Venezuela.


That's Guyana.  Apparently some Third World nations are so poor they can't even afford names of their own and have to share.
(There's also French Guiana and the former Dutch Guiana, now Suriname).
 
2014-04-02 06:40:17 PM  

ZAZ: And of course, you should never confuse New Guinea with the three totally separate African nations of Guinea, Equatorial Guinea or Guinea-Bissau. But you'd never do that, would you?

Don't be silly, Guinea is in South America, next to Venezuela.


Bullshiat, it's in Italy
 
2014-04-02 07:13:26 PM  
I personally enjoyed how the article implied all Americans are willfully ignorant when it comes to geography.
 
2014-04-02 07:16:58 PM  

Loomy: Sybarite: A trivia question that I find often trips up even people who are reasonably competent at geography; "How many sovereign nations are there in North America?" Some people even get really mad at the answer.

Well, that depends: are you asking in French?


/I imagine the most popular answer is 3
//But then you've got all the non-Caribbean island thingies (Greenland, Bermuda, etc..)
///Not to mention whether or not the questioner is using a geographical or political version of "North America"


Greenland isn't a sovereign nation.

Neither is Bermuda.

Please don't get angry.
 
2014-04-02 07:33:18 PM  

tbaughm: I personally enjoyed how the article implied all Americans are willfully ignorant when it comes to geography.


1. He's not wrong.
2. Since the article was written for an Austalian audience, he's insulting them
3. If you asked Americans on the street, Jaywalking-style, about the capital of Australia, I bet 90% of them would not come up with Canberra.

/ Vienna, maybe
 
2014-04-02 08:14:29 PM  
I've known for years that Ouagadougou is the capital of Burkina Faso, but only because it came up in fourth form (year 10) social studies when we were looking at hunter-gatherer societies. It's even scored me a point or two in pub quizzes. It's interesting what sticks with you.
 
2014-04-02 08:49:58 PM  
Is that the Middle East? Because, ya know, until WWII that area used to be the Near East and India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nepal, Ceylon, and dig this...East Pakistan, were the constituent parts of the Middle East. Get this further proof, if you doubt my claim: Near East, Middle East, and Far East occur in serial from left to right on a map. Currently, this Australian has us believing that Middle East, Central Asia, South Asia, and then East Asia makes more sense - pshaw!

/1998 provincial geography champion
 
2014-04-02 09:34:08 PM  
I suggest tectonics to narrow both what is central america and what is the ME.   If you touch the caribian or Arabian plates then you are in the respective geographical regions.
 
2014-04-02 09:50:32 PM  
PC run amok; You got to include Morocco, Indonesia and the Uighurs in China when you talk about the Middle east; all them mooselims think and act alike; ask any of the Arabs, who live in Persia!
 
2014-04-02 10:15:32 PM  
So, my geography degree finally pays off and I can say I knew all of this, even the bonuses.

YAY KNOWLEDGE!
 
2014-04-03 12:02:09 AM  
I knew all of those but then again I have always been pretty good with geography on a relative scale but in general Americans are terrible at geography.
Fun story regarding what is and is not the Middle East: The last time the World Cup was around a bunch of us were out after work and my boss was arguing that Algeria was one of the countries representing the Middle East.  I told him that A) there is no Middle East representative, B) that the teams qualify through their continent's football confederation, and C) Algeria is in Africa and therefore part of the Confederation of African Football.  He was adamant that I was wrong and told me "I'll bet you anything that I'm right."  His pregnant wife was sitting with us and I said "If I'm right I win naming rights for your baby."  We shook hands, I pulled out my phone and showed him that in alphabetical order Algeria was the first country to qualify from the CAF.  I then gifted the naming rights to his wife and have trolled him for years by asking him "So, how is little Algeria doing?"
 
2014-04-03 12:57:27 AM  
FTA: Basically, unless you're some sort of weirdo geographical purist, you would never use the term New Guinea in isolation.

Um, sure I would. If asked what the second largest island in the world, I would reply "New Guinea". I wouldn't reply "the sovereign nation of Papua New Guinea plus a couple provinces of Indonesia". That'd be stupid.

I even know where Hispaniola is.
 
2014-04-03 04:14:00 AM  
I'm obliged by the rules of Fark posting to inform you all that I already knew everything in the article.
 
2014-04-03 07:46:04 AM  

impaler: 5 simple bits of geography the author of this piece always gets wrong, and assumes you do as well.


Well what do you expect. He's Australian, and doesn't think he lives in Europe.
 
2014-04-03 08:11:20 AM  

Doc Batarang: Is that the Middle East? Because, ya know, until WWII that area used to be the Near East and India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nepal, Ceylon, and dig this...East Pakistan, were the constituent parts of the Middle East. Get this further proof, if you doubt my claim: Near East, Middle East, and Far East occur in serial from left to right on a map. Currently, this Australian has us believing that Middle East, Central Asia, South Asia, and then East Asia makes more sense - pshaw!

/1998 provincial geography champion


before 1947 that was one country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:India_at_end_of_British_period_194 7. jpg
 
2014-04-03 08:47:14 AM  

tbaughm: I personally enjoyed how the article implied all Americans are willfully ignorant when it comes to geography.


And we're damn proud of it!
 
2014-04-03 10:28:44 AM  

pdieten: tbaughm: I personally enjoyed how the article implied all Americans are willfully ignorant when it comes to geography.

1. He's not wrong.
2. Since the article was written for an Austalian audience, he's insulting them
3. If you asked Americans on the street, Jaywalking-style, about the capital of Australia, I bet 90% of them would not come up with Canberra.

/ Vienna, maybe


And this, is how you troll.
 
2014-04-03 11:10:30 AM  

Doc Batarang: Is that the Middle East? Because, ya know, until WWII that area used to be the Near East and India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nepal, Ceylon, and dig this...East Pakistan, were the constituent parts of the Middle East. Get this further proof, if you doubt my claim: Near East, Middle East, and Far East occur in serial from left to right on a map. Currently, this Australian has us believing that Middle East, Central Asia, South Asia, and then East Asia makes more sense - pshaw!

/1998 provincial geography champion


I remember reading somewhere that the British invented the term to refer to the area between the Nile River and the Oxus River (in Iran) -- this does not seem to have a lot of support online though.  Anyone know what I'm talking about?
 
2014-04-03 11:13:27 AM  

tbaughm: I personally enjoyed how the article implied all Americans are willfully ignorant when it comes to geography.


Meh, it seems to have been written in response to something Russell Crowe said, so I don't think it's targeted at Americans.  They just threw that last bit in there because apparently they get linked to a lot from Fark :)
 
2014-04-03 11:26:44 AM  

MrBallou: "Technically it [Central America] actually belongs to North America "

Geography is a lot more technical than I realized.


Is there some kind of International Geographers Union that decides these conventions, like the IAU with defining planets and such? Seems to me the seven continent system is pretty arbitrary.  Eurasia is one big, connected landmass but Europe and Asia are two "continents"? But the Indian subcontinent, which is about a third the size of Europe but has about 50% more people, is not a continent, even though the geographic barriers (the Himalayas, Hindu Kush, etc) are even more impassable than the Urals? Why are island nations considered part of a "continent" (depending on what you call Oceania), even though some of them are not on a continental plate, or on a separate tectonic plate from the continent they're associated with (the Caribbean nations)?

In any case, there does not appear to be any direct political consequence of referring to a country as being a part of any particular continent, so this is all moot.
 
2014-04-03 11:32:26 AM  
I learn all my geography from CGP Grey:

The UK:  http://youtu.be/rNu8XDBSn10

Continents:  http://youtu.be/3uBcq1x7P34
 
2014-04-03 12:04:21 PM  

tbaughm: I personally enjoyed how the article implied all Americans are willfully ignorant when it comes to geography.


Almost everybody back east can't distinguish between Idaho and Iowa.  Then again I can't distinguish between a festering ziggurat of dookie from NYC
 
2014-04-03 12:48:31 PM  

ZAZ: And of course, you should never confuse New Guinea with the three totally separate African nations of Guinea, Equatorial Guinea or Guinea-Bissau. But you'd never do that, would you?

Don't be silly, Guinea is in South America, next to Venezuela.


I've had pigs from there.  The bacon is tiny.
 
2014-04-03 01:35:45 PM  

ZAZ: And of course, you should never confuse New Guinea with the three totally separate African nations of Guinea, Equatorial Guinea or Guinea-Bissau. But you'd never do that, would you?

Don't be silly, Guinea is in South America, next to Venezuela.


I thought the guineas were in italy.
 
2014-04-03 04:39:58 PM  

airsupport: ZAZ: And of course, you should never confuse New Guinea with the three totally separate African nations of Guinea, Equatorial Guinea or Guinea-Bissau. But you'd never do that, would you?

Don't be silly, Guinea is in South America, next to Venezuela.

I thought the guineas were in italy.


Boy goes to his father and asks "Can I have $5 for a guinea pig?" Father says "Here's $10; get yourself a nice Irish girl."
 
2014-04-03 04:40:40 PM  

airsupport: ZAZ: And of course, you should never confuse New Guinea with the three totally separate African nations of Guinea, Equatorial Guinea or Guinea-Bissau. But you'd never do that, would you?

Don't be silly, Guinea is in South America, next to Venezuela.

I thought the guineas were in italy.


No, those are in Zurich, Australia.  That's where the Germans launched their attack on Pearl Harbor from.
 
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