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(Mediaite)   Ted Cruz asks if people are better under Obamacare on his Facebook page. Since you're reading this on Fark, you know what happens afterwards   (mediaite.com) divider line 298
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2014-04-02 04:08:39 AM  
"Online polls don't matter." -Ted Cruz RAND PAUL
 
2014-04-02 08:33:16 AM  
That man actually makes Louis Gohmert seem like he's of almost average intelligence
 
2014-04-02 08:56:40 AM  
He fixes the cable?
 
2014-04-02 08:59:01 AM  
It doesn't matter. He'll simply cherry pick whichever posts support his argument, knowing safely that the people he is preaching to would never actually check his facebook page.
 
2014-04-02 09:00:15 AM  
These people really do live in a farking bubble, don't they?
 
2014-04-02 09:00:50 AM  
The result will be "no" once the poll is unskewed.
 
2014-04-02 09:01:37 AM  
static5.businessinsider.com

On the case.
 
2014-04-02 09:01:40 AM  
Here was my response:
 I actually had decent insurance, so I didn't need it. I think there are 3 other people in the US who weren't getting screwed over by the insurance companies, so all 4 of us are about the same, but I personally am glad that this exists. Your healthcare shouldn't be a lottery based on how big your employer is and how good of negotiators the HR department is.

I was happy to post....
 
2014-04-02 09:05:15 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: That man actually makes Louis Gohmert seem like he's of almost average intelligence


There's a reason we have the expression, "As stupid as a Texas voter."
 
2014-04-02 09:06:20 AM  
And how many of those posts were made by employees of George Soros? Huh? Can you answer that question? Of course you can't, which means that it's all of them.
 
2014-04-02 09:07:54 AM  
He got several ads for sunglasses, passive aggressive posts from lonely guys, pics of teen girls with duck lips, pics of food, offer for girl scout cookies and some stupid posts about diarrhea and socks that is supposed to support breast cancer?
 
2014-04-02 09:08:42 AM  
He will then reply: "See! Everyone hates it so much I need to cancel this page"
 
2014-04-02 09:09:40 AM  
Not a lawyer but I always thought Rule # 1 of being a lawyer is "Never ask a question you don't know the answer to".
 
2014-04-02 09:10:24 AM  
Hey Ted, how's going with your gut feelings working out for ya?  Dumbass should have had some numbers run first....
 
2014-04-02 09:11:15 AM  
Why God, why did I read the comments?!?!
 
2014-04-02 09:12:27 AM  
In an attempt to get a slightly more scientific answer from our readers, let us know what you think by answering Cruz's question below:

"Easier to count" doesn't make it more scientific there, article writer.

That said, this is hilarious.
 
2014-04-02 09:13:48 AM  

Dimensio: [static5.businessinsider.com image 400x300]

On the case.


As an enthusiast, semi-professional photographer, that picture pisses me off.  Is it a photoshop done to make fun of him, or is this really what he put on his site's biography page?  Because Jesus, who's idea was this?  Blurry, out of focus with random focused pine trees in the back in some weird photoshop attempt bullshiat angry I smell toast and taste pennies wat is that I here purplellllll....

/fark him and his photographer
//and Cruz needs to be the most public member of the party, or go away completely, with no in between
 
2014-04-02 09:15:05 AM  

themindiswatching: "Online polls don't matter." -Ted Cruz RAND PAUL slashdot.org


This was always my favorite online poll disclaimer:

•  Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks.
•  Feel free to suggest poll ideas if you're feeling creative. I'd strongly suggest reading the past polls first.

•  This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.

But I'm going to complain about lack of options here:

Obamacare was signed into law four years ago [last week]. Are you better off now than you were then?

Am I better off than I was 4 years ago?  Uh, yes but because my career is 4 years further down the road and it has nothing to do with Obamacare.

Am I better off insurance wise because of Obamacare?  No.  I had good, employer provided insurance then and I still have good, employer provided insurance now.  Thus far, Obamacare is irrelevant to me.  I'll let you know if I go beyond what used to be a lifetime cap though?
 
2014-04-02 09:15:26 AM  
How many Canadians were posting on this?  I know Cruz in Canadian and all but how do you keep those filthy canucks from commenting on Facebook.
 
2014-04-02 09:15:31 AM  

Shadowknight: Dimensio: [static5.businessinsider.com image 400x300]

On the case.

As an enthusiast, semi-professional photographer, that picture pisses me off.  Is it a photoshop done to make fun of him, or is this really what he put on his site's biography page?  Because Jesus, who's idea was this?  Blurry, out of focus with random focused pine trees in the back in some weird photoshop attempt bullshiat angry I smell toast and taste pennies wat is that I here purplellllll....

/fark him and his photographer
//and Cruz needs to be the most public member of the party, or go away completely, with no in between


AFAIK, that's a real pic of him, not some photoshop.
 
2014-04-02 09:15:58 AM  
Why a Cuban-Canadian douchebag would ask Americans for opinions on a American law? Attention-whoring. That's why.
 
2014-04-02 09:19:47 AM  
As a Canadian, Cruz should be embracing publicly-funded health care.
 
2014-04-02 09:20:05 AM  

Shadowknight: Dimensio: [static5.businessinsider.com image 400x300]

On the case.

As an enthusiast, semi-professional photographer, that picture pisses me off.  Is it a photoshop done to make fun of him, or is this really what he put on his site's biography page?  Because Jesus, who's idea was this?  Blurry, out of focus with random focused pine trees in the back in some weird photoshop attempt bullshiat angry I smell toast and taste pennies wat is that I here purplellllll....

/fark him and his photographer
//and Cruz needs to be the most public member of the party, or go away completely, with no in between


"Out of focus" is actually the next stage of obesity after "morbid".
 
2014-04-02 09:20:37 AM  
Someone post the article about how conservatives assume everyone is vastly more conservative than reality allows. Echo chambers are powerful.
 
2014-04-02 09:20:53 AM  

astonrickenbach: Not a lawyer but I always thought Rule # 1 of being a lawyer is "Never ask a question you don't know the answer to".


If every conservative in government thinks the free market should run things, why don't those same people have free market jobs?
 
2014-04-02 09:21:45 AM  
Well, i haven't actually needed to go to the doctor yet, so I can't comment on "better off", but my premiums went way down.
 
2014-04-02 09:22:07 AM  

mrshowrules: How many Canadians were posting on this?


Canada just laughs at our health care model.
 
2014-04-02 09:23:18 AM  

Smoking GNU: AFAIK, that's a real pic of him, not some photoshop.


I just have such a hard time believing that he would use that as his go-to headshot for his website.  I know us photo-geeks are picky about things that most people don't care about, but this thing is just so beyond bad.  Pale, overexposed skin with bad downward shadows making his neck rolls and folds look even worse, the obvious out of focus subject with the sharp background, which really was a bad choice of background for an editorial head shot anyway...

Just made me think someone took an existing photo, and if not pasted him on a random pine tree shot, just used a filter layer to make him blurry and too high of contrast.  I just don't want to believe that a professional (even a "professional" moron like him) chose this as his face to the world.
 
2014-04-02 09:24:32 AM  

Shadowknight: Dimensio: [static5.businessinsider.com image 400x300]

On the case.

As an enthusiast, semi-professional photographer, that picture pisses me off.  Is it a photoshop done to make fun of him, or is this really what he put on his site's biography page?  Because Jesus, who's idea was this?  Blurry, out of focus with random focused pine trees in the back in some weird photoshop attempt bullshiat angry I smell toast and taste pennies wat is that I here purplellllll....

/fark him and his photographer
//and Cruz needs to be the most public member of the party, or go away completely, with no in between


I was able to locate a much higher resolution image of the man.

Be aware that the image is large.
 
2014-04-02 09:24:46 AM  
I actually enjoyed reading those FB comments to Ted's question.

I never thought I would utter those words. Together. In one sentence.
 
2014-04-02 09:25:39 AM  

Dimensio: I was able to locate a much higher resolution image of the man.

Be aware that the image is large.


Well, he does have nice eyes.
 
2014-04-02 09:26:02 AM  

lennavan: Am I better off insurance wise because of Obamacare?  No.  I had good, employer provided insurance then and I still have good, employer provided insurance now.  Thus far, Obamacare is irrelevant to me.  I'll let you know if I go beyond what used to be a lifetime cap though?


If you still have insurance, but don't have a lifetime cap or worry about denial due to pre-existing condition, aren't you still better off?
 
2014-04-02 09:27:22 AM  
Insurance companies sure are, that is for sure
 
2014-04-02 09:27:40 AM  
Thanks Taft.
 
2014-04-02 09:27:56 AM  

monoski: mrshowrules: How many Canadians were posting on this?

Canada just laughs at our health care model.


As does the rest of the civilized world. And only here will those who need healthcare the most be the most vocal opponents.
 
2014-04-02 09:28:48 AM  

SenorPez: Thanks Taft.


Is the filter still active, or are we doing this for fun?  Let's try:

Thanks Obama.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2014-04-02 09:32:34 AM  

Shadowknight: SenorPez: Thanks Taft.

Is the filter still active, or are we doing this for fun?  Let's try:

Thanks Taft.


Nice! Taftcare ftw!
 
2014-04-02 09:33:30 AM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Shadowknight: Dimensio: [static5.businessinsider.com image 400x300]

On the case.

As an enthusiast, semi-professional photographer, that picture pisses me off.  Is it a photoshop done to make fun of him, or is this really what he put on his site's biography page?  Because Jesus, who's idea was this?  Blurry, out of focus with random focused pine trees in the back in some weird photoshop attempt bullshiat angry I smell toast and taste pennies wat is that I here purplellllll....

/fark him and his photographer
//and Cruz needs to be the most public member of the party, or go away completely, with no in between

"Out of focus" is actually the next stage of obesity after "morbid".


Gravitational lensing?
 
2014-04-02 09:34:05 AM  

impaler: lennavan: Am I better off insurance wise because of Obamacare?  No.  I had good, employer provided insurance then and I still have good, employer provided insurance now.  Thus far, Obamacare is irrelevant to me.  I'll let you know if I go beyond what used to be a lifetime cap though?

If you still have insurance, but don't have a lifetime cap or worry about denial due to pre-existing condition, aren't you still better off?


Since I've been insured for decades straight, I don't think I have to worry about pre-existing conditions anymore.  If catastrophe hits and I go above what the lifetime cap was, then yes I will be better off.  I'll let you know.  Otherwise, no, I'm not better off.

This statement should not shock you.  Obamacare was not intended to make everyone, or even a majority of people be better off.
 
2014-04-02 09:35:09 AM  
Which of the following responses to the poll results do you think is more likely from our Republican friends?

a. ObamaCare is helping people? I guess I was wrong. I'll rethink my opposition based on this new information.
b. ObamaCare is helping people? Probably homos and atheists and poors. I'll double down my opposition.

I'm not a betting man but I'd be confident putting money on "b" as the most likely response.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2014-04-02 09:35:30 AM  

AMonkey'sUncle: monoski: mrshowrules: How many Canadians were posting on this?

Canada just laughs at our health care model.

As does the rest of the civilized world. And only here will those who need healthcare the most be the most vocal opponents.


Yeah but that's because they envy us and are jealous of our freedoms.
 
2014-04-02 09:36:29 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: The result will be "no" once the poll is unskewed.


I agree. The results of the poll were not included in the article. All that was said was the posts that get "liked" the most are automaticaly brought to the top.   I wonder why they didn't give the result of the poll in the article?  Why would they do that?
 
2014-04-02 09:36:44 AM  

Shadowknight: Dimensio: [static5.businessinsider.com image 400x300]

On the case.

As an enthusiast, semi-professional photographer, that picture pisses me off.  Is it a photoshop done to make fun of him, or is this really what he put on his site's biography page?  Because Jesus, who's idea was this?  Blurry, out of focus with random focused pine trees in the back in some weird photoshop attempt bullshiat angry I smell toast and taste pennies wat is that I here purplellllll....

/fark him and his photographer
//and Cruz needs to be the most public member of the party, or go away completely, with no in between


Well, that same picture is used in this article with credit under the photo saying "Courtesy of Dean Chambers."
 
2014-04-02 09:39:15 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Which of the following responses to the poll results do you think is more likely from our Republican friends?

a. ObamaCare is helping people? I guess I was wrong. I'll rethink my opposition based on this new information.
b. ObamaCare is helping people? Probably homos and atheists and poors. I'll double down my opposition.

I'm not a betting man but I'd be confident putting money on "b" as the most likely response.


I'd bet my life savings and all of my future earnings on B.
 
2014-04-02 09:39:34 AM  

lennavan: impaler: lennavan: Am I better off insurance wise because of Obamacare?  No.  I had good, employer provided insurance then and I still have good, employer provided insurance now.  Thus far, Obamacare is irrelevant to me.  I'll let you know if I go beyond what used to be a lifetime cap though?

If you still have insurance, but don't have a lifetime cap or worry about denial due to pre-existing condition, aren't you still better off?

Since I've been insured for decades straight, I don't think I have to worry about pre-existing conditions anymore.  If catastrophe hits and I go above what the lifetime cap was, then yes I will be better off.  I'll let you know.  Otherwise, no, I'm not better off.

This statement should not shock you.  Obamacare was not intended to make everyone, or even a majority of people be better off.


If millions of previously uninsured/uninsurable people have access to healthcare... even if they are not directly YOU... do you have the inability to consider that you might be better off?
 
2014-04-02 09:42:39 AM  
Somebody should have asked to see his Birf certificate. Pretty sure he is not American.


The potential costs of Obamacare to me (I already have excellent insurance through my wife's employer, or mine if need be) are totally offset by one simple thing. Pre-existing conditions and lifetime limits. Ok so that's two things. I have a great income and we are pretty good savers. The only thing that could really derail us financially is a major medical issue. Now that is much less of a concern so for some vague long term and likely short term price increases my biggest financial risk is now insured against.

Thanks Obama!
 
2014-04-02 09:43:24 AM  

Shadowknight: Smoking GNU: AFAIK, that's a real pic of him, not some photoshop.

I just have such a hard time believing that he would use that as his go-to headshot for his website.  I know us photo-geeks are picky about things that most people don't care about, but this thing is just so beyond bad.  Pale, overexposed skin with bad downward shadows making his neck rolls and folds look even worse, the obvious out of focus subject with the sharp background, which really was a bad choice of background for an editorial head shot anyway...

Just made me think someone took an existing photo, and if not pasted him on a random pine tree shot, just used a filter layer to make him blurry and too high of contrast.  I just don't want to believe that a professional (even a "professional" moron like him) chose this as his face to the world.


The man is basically The Michelin Man with clothes and a slightly dusky complexion, but the pic is even credited to the actual guy on news stories about him.

Danger Mouse: Tyrone Slothrop: The result will be "no" once the poll is unskewed.

I agree. The results of the poll were not included in the article. All that was said was the posts that get "liked" the most are automaticaly brought to the top.   I wonder why they didn't give the result of the poll in the article?  Why would they do that?


I skimmed the posts the day it went out, and didn't see a single 'No I'm not better off' post, and I searched for awhile.
 
2014-04-02 09:43:24 AM  

monoski: mrshowrules: How many Canadians were posting on this?

Canada just laughs at our health care model.


They also laugh at the fact that we still have Rafael Eduardo Cruz, Justin Bieber and Celine Dion in the states.
 
2014-04-02 09:44:25 AM  

Danger Mouse: Tyrone Slothrop: The result will be "no" once the poll is unskewed.

I agree. The results of the poll were not included in the article. All that was said was the posts that get "liked" the most are automaticaly brought to the top.   I wonder why they didn't give the result of the poll in the article?  Why would they do that?


They sort of offered a result in saying that

AllVoices.com's Reno Berkeley delved into the post's responses even further on Sunday and noted that the "vast majority of the people responding to the senator's question liked the law."

I would have liked some numbers to go along with the assertion.
 
2014-04-02 09:44:39 AM  

lennavan: impaler: lennavan: Am I better off insurance wise because of Obamacare?  No.  I had good, employer provided insurance then and I still have good, employer provided insurance now.  Thus far, Obamacare is irrelevant to me.  I'll let you know if I go beyond what used to be a lifetime cap though?

If you still have insurance, but don't have a lifetime cap or worry about denial due to pre-existing condition, aren't you still better off?

Since I've been insured for decades straight, I don't think I have to worry about pre-existing conditions anymore.  If catastrophe hits and I go above what the lifetime cap was, then yes I will be better off.  I'll let you know.  Otherwise, no, I'm not better off.

This statement should not shock you.  Obamacare was not intended to make everyone, or even a majority of people be better off.


Being insured against (additional) risk is a benefit even if the insurance is never used. You are unequivocally better off, all other things being the same.
 
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