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(Time)   Intel chief admits continued snooping on Americans. AMD chief promises superior snooping with integrated 3D graphics and 4Mb of L2 cache in the next generation   (time.com) divider line 50
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2014-04-02 02:11:59 AM  
Why is it that the congress critters most vocally opposed to this are often the ones who voted to reauthorize the cited law without changing it to disallow this sort of reinterpretation?

Just vote against the damn thing until it gets changed so that it can't be cited as a legal basis for violation of the 4th Amendment. Duh.
 
2014-04-02 09:26:40 AM  

ox45tallboy: Why is it that the congress critters most vocally opposed to this are often the ones who voted to reauthorize the cited law without changing it to disallow this sort of reinterpretation?

Just vote against the damn thing until it gets changed so that it can't be cited as a legal basis for violation of the 4th Amendment. Duh.



Cuz it worked for Obama.
 
2014-04-02 09:27:36 AM  
subby this headline made my day.
 
2014-04-02 09:27:41 AM  

ox45tallboy: Why is it that the congress critters most vocally opposed to this are often the ones who voted to reauthorize the cited law without changing it to disallow this sort of reinterpretation?

Just vote against the damn thing until it gets changed so that it can't be cited as a legal basis for violation of the 4th Amendment. Duh.


They know voters are stupid, after all voters put them in office.
 
2014-04-02 09:34:21 AM  
But which company is fudging the numbers with more finesse?
 
2014-04-02 09:34:59 AM  
You know, one of these days a whole lot of people are going to get fed up with this B.S. from their supposed representatives and rulers, and they are going to snap. It will be the French Revolution all over again: Bloody, Violent, Brutal, and everyone who had connections to anyone who was formerly holding a public office, or who held one themselves, will be imprisoned or killed. This outcome is inevitable. There are two ways a government will always wind up: Destroyed by an invading force, or destroyed by its own angry people. There are no exceptions to this rule. And the USA is pushing their luck on both fronts.
 
2014-04-02 09:35:22 AM  
Serious subject, but headline made me LOL.  I'll drink a beer to remember the old days of Intel vs. AMD.
 
2014-04-02 09:37:21 AM  

neversubmit: ox45tallboy: Why is it that the congress critters most vocally opposed to this are often the ones who voted to reauthorize the cited law without changing it to disallow this sort of reinterpretation?

Just vote against the damn thing until it gets changed so that it can't be cited as a legal basis for violation of the 4th Amendment. Duh.

They know voters are stupid, after all voters put them in office.


Yep.

img.pandawhale.com

/Individually we're be able to see this how it is
//as a group we keep electing these jackals into office no matter what lies they tell to us
///"Oh yeah, all congress is bad except for *my congressman* who I vote for every time."
 
2014-04-02 09:37:54 AM  
Won't someone think of the Chipsets?
 
2014-04-02 09:39:24 AM  

washington-babylon: You know, one of these days a whole lot of people are going to get fed up with this B.S. from their supposed representatives and rulers, and they are going to snap. It will be the French Revolution all over again: Bloody, Violent, Brutal, and everyone who had connections to anyone who was formerly holding a public office, or who held one themselves, will be imprisoned or killed. This outcome is inevitable. There are two ways a government will always wind up: Destroyed by an invading force, or destroyed by its own angry people. There are no exceptions to this rule. And the USA is pushing their luck on both fronts.


Those people will most likely kill the wrong ones because they are too dumb to know the right way to fix their problems.
 
2014-04-02 09:39:55 AM  
ox45tallboy [TotalFark]
2014-04-02 02:11:59 AM


Why is it that the congress critters most vocally opposed to this are often the ones who voted to reauthorize the cited law without changing it to disallow this sort of reinterpretation?

You weren't hoping hard enough for change.

One veto could have stopped it. Senate majority is democrat.
 
2014-04-02 09:40:51 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: neversubmit: ox45tallboy: Why is it that the congress critters most vocally opposed to this are often the ones who voted to reauthorize the cited law without changing it to disallow this sort of reinterpretation?

Just vote against the damn thing until it gets changed so that it can't be cited as a legal basis for violation of the 4th Amendment. Duh.

They know voters are stupid, after all voters put them in office.

Yep.

[img.pandawhale.com image 500x268]

/Individually we're be able to see this how it is
//as a group we keep electing these jackals into office no matter what lies they tell to us
///"Oh yeah, all congress is bad except for *my congressman* who I vote for every time."


Just for my own personal edification - are you all persons, or people?
 
2014-04-02 09:40:53 AM  
neversubmit

(favorite: 8188675 Blamed U.S. for NZ court ruling)


They know voters are stupid, after all voters put them in office.
Agreed. some even blame NZ court rulings on conservatives on the US Supreme court.
 
2014-04-02 09:48:44 AM  

IamAwake: DarkSoulNoHope: neversubmit: ox45tallboy: Why is it that the congress critters most vocally opposed to this are often the ones who voted to reauthorize the cited law without changing it to disallow this sort of reinterpretation?

Just vote against the damn thing until it gets changed so that it can't be cited as a legal basis for violation of the 4th Amendment. Duh.

They know voters are stupid, after all voters put them in office.

Yep.

[img.pandawhale.com image 500x268]

/Individually we're be able to see this how it is
//as a group we keep electing these jackals into office no matter what lies they tell to us
///"Oh yeah, all congress is bad except for *my congressman* who I vote for every time."

Just for my own personal edification - are you all persons, or people?


I'm "all persons" sadly, only recently in the past few years have I cared for who I vote for, before it was my parents saying "Yeah, vote for this guy." and I had no reason to back then because I didn't think of the consequences. (also didn't know at the time that my parents (especially my dad) are Fox News brainwashed latent racists.
 
2014-04-02 09:49:40 AM  

OnlyM3: neversubmit

(favorite: 8188675 Blamed U.S. for NZ court ruling)


They know voters are stupid, after all voters put them in office. Agreed. some even blame NZ court rulings on conservatives on the US Supreme court.


Some are so dumb they have never heard of a client state, they even go so far as to think all things are equal.
 
2014-04-02 09:50:59 AM  
Feinstein will fight to her last breath to ensure that the government doesn't snoop...on herself.

The rest of us can go to hell.  Yet, you farking idiots will let her retire in office if she chooses to.  fark all of you.
 
m00
2014-04-02 09:51:14 AM  
Impeach Bush. Republicans are destroying this country!
 
2014-04-02 09:54:23 AM  
Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.
 
2014-04-02 09:59:46 AM  

washington-babylon: You know, one of these days a whole lot of people are going to get fed up with this B.S. from their supposed representatives and rulers, and they are going to snap. It will be the French Revolution all over again: Bloody, Violent, Brutal, and everyone who had connections to anyone who was formerly holding a public office, or who held one themselves, will be imprisoned or killed. This outcome is inevitable. There are two ways a government will always wind up: Destroyed by an invading force, or destroyed by its own angry people. There are no exceptions to this rule. And the USA is pushing their luck on both fronts.


No, dude, just no. Today Americans are too fat, stupid and placated by Honey Boo Boo to be bothered to get off their asses. I think the most apt analogy is that of a family owned business - the first generation works hard to build the business, the second generation maintains it, and the third generation doesn't give a shiat. America is in the third generation area of that description.
 
2014-04-02 10:00:21 AM  

washington-babylon: You know, one of these days a whole lot of people are going to get fed up with this B.S. from their supposed representatives and rulers, and they are going to snap. It will be the French Revolution all over again: Bloody, Violent, Brutal, and everyone who had connections to anyone who was formerly holding a public office, or who held one themselves, will be imprisoned or killed. This outcome is inevitable. There are two ways a government will always wind up: Destroyed by an invading force, or destroyed by its own angry people. There are no exceptions to this rule. And the USA is pushing their luck on both fronts.


Cool story bro
 
2014-04-02 10:00:25 AM  

Nemo's Brother: Feinstein will fight to her last breath to ensure that the government doesn't snoop...on herself.

The rest of us can go to hell.  Yet, you farking idiots will let her retire in office if she chooses to.  fark all of you.



I tend to judge people (especially politicians) by who hates them.
So, she's golden in my book.
 
2014-04-02 10:00:44 AM  

SundaesChild: Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.


I remembah a day, when you need a FARKING WARRENT for that kind of surveillance.
 
2014-04-02 10:01:51 AM  

SundaesChild: Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.


0/10
 
2014-04-02 10:02:06 AM  

SundaesChild: Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.


Do you get paid pretty well for that kind of crap?

Propaganda: it's how unemployed journalists put food on the table
 
2014-04-02 10:02:39 AM  

fireclown: SundaesChild: Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.

I remembah a day, when you need a FARKING WARRENT for that kind of surveillance.


Or a warrant, even.
 
2014-04-02 10:10:57 AM  

fireclown: SundaesChild: Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.

I remembah a day, when you need a FARKING WARRENT for that kind of surveillance.


WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE?

Seriously though, if they can dig through the 100s of spam emails I get a day in my Yahoo account and find anything of interest, I'd be surprised. According to Yahoo, I am a man with erectile dysfunction in my 36th trimester of pregnancy who is dying to contacted by bored and lonely housewives.
 
2014-04-02 10:12:22 AM  
I have an old paper on my lap from 2009.

Headline reads "Smith`s secret plan to carry on snooping"

The article describes how widescale monitoring of every phone call and email was publicly scrapped but the funding was in place so it has carried on in reality.

This is not news people, they tell us they spy all the time all the time...

If you are not angry, you do not realise what is happening...
 
2014-04-02 10:17:51 AM  
ssomething something nvidia
 
2014-04-02 10:22:36 AM  

SundaesChild: fireclown: SundaesChild: Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.

I remembah a day, when you need a FARKING WARRENT for that kind of surveillance.

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE?

Seriously though, if they can dig through the 100s of spam emails I get a day in my Yahoo account and find anything of interest, I'd be surprised. According to Yahoo, I am a man with erectile dysfunction in my 36th trimester of pregnancy who is dying to contacted by bored and lonely housewives.


I'm not concerned about them spying on a guy like you. I'm worried about them spying on people who are / will be influential. And also the backdoors they created can be hacked and exploited by more run in the mill criminals.
 
2014-04-02 10:23:22 AM  
Amendments to the FISA law enacted in 2008 effectively legalized the warrantless surveillance program the Bush administration installed following the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

You know the country has serious problems when even the restrictions of a rubber-stamp court are too burdensome to follow.
 
2014-04-02 10:24:53 AM  
Well of course they are. You didn't actually think they were going to stop did you? Hell they just admitted to having the capacity to spy upon entire nations in real-time.
 
2014-04-02 10:30:51 AM  
What happened to the RISC architecture we all knew and loved?

/Reduced Instruction Snooping Chip
 
2014-04-02 10:33:53 AM  
img.fark.net


We never dealt with domestic. With us, it was always war. We won the war. Now we're fighting the peace. It's a lot more volatile. Now we've got ten million crackpots out there with sniper scopes, sarin gas and C-4. Ten-year-olds go on the Net, downloading encryption we can barely break, not to mention instructions on how to make a low-yield nuclear device. Privacy's been dead for years because we can't risk it. The only privacy that's left is the inside of your head. Maybe that's enough.

You think we're the enemy of democracy, you and I? I think we're democracy's last hope.


www.wearysloth.com
 
2014-04-02 10:38:27 AM  

uber humper: SundaesChild: fireclown: SundaesChild: Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.

I remembah a day, when you need a FARKING WARRENT for that kind of surveillance.

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE?

Seriously though, if they can dig through the 100s of spam emails I get a day in my Yahoo account and find anything of interest, I'd be surprised. According to Yahoo, I am a man with erectile dysfunction in my 36th trimester of pregnancy who is dying to contacted by bored and lonely housewives.

I'm not concerned about them spying on a guy like you. I'm worried about them spying on people who are / will be influential. And also the backdoors they created can be hacked and exploited by more run in the mill criminals.


(I'm a girl)
 
2014-04-02 10:42:52 AM  

SundaesChild: uber humper: SundaesChild: fireclown: SundaesChild: Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.

I remembah a day, when you need a FARKING WARRENT for that kind of surveillance.

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE?

Seriously though, if they can dig through the 100s of spam emails I get a day in my Yahoo account and find anything of interest, I'd be surprised. According to Yahoo, I am a man with erectile dysfunction in my 36th trimester of pregnancy who is dying to contacted by bored and lonely housewives.

I'm not concerned about them spying on a guy like you. I'm worried about them spying on people who are / will be influential. And also the backdoors they created can be hacked and exploited by more run in the mill criminals.

(I'm a girl)


that's no excuse
 
2014-04-02 10:54:20 AM  
Admiral James Clapper is a traitor to his country and its citizens and should be dealt with accordingly.

/hi NSA
//you farks
 
2014-04-02 11:03:41 AM  

ox45tallboy: Why is it that the congress critters most vocally opposed to this are often the ones who voted to reauthorize the cited law without changing it to disallow this sort of reinterpretation?

Just vote against the damn thing until it gets changed so that it can't be cited as a legal basis for violation of the 4th Amendment. Duh.


So you're saying Congress writes the law? Who knew?
 
2014-04-02 11:28:36 AM  

Nemo's Brother: Feinstein will fight to her last breath to ensure that the government doesn't snoop...on herself.

The rest of us can go to hell.  Yet, you farking idiots will let her retire in office if she chooses to.  fark all of you.


Pretty much ^THIS^ but also we should name names of the people who hate your right to privacy so much (may or may not include your uterus) that they stand not as watchdogs but as gatekeepers and protectors of this industry.

Senate Intelligence Oversight:
Alternating By Party
Diane Feinstein D-CA  - Chair
Saxby Chambliss R-GA - Vice Chair
Jay Rockefeller D-WV
Richard Burr R-NC
Barbara Mikulski, D-MD
James E. Risch R-ID
Ron Wyden D-OR
Daniel Coats R-IN
Mark Udall D-CO
Marco Rubio R-FL
Mark Warner D-VA
Susan Collins R-ME
Martin Heinrich D-NM
Tom Coburn R-OK
Angus King D-ME
Ex Officio - I.E. due to political rank rather than specific committee assignment - simply by holding office
Harry Reid  D-NV
James Inhofe  R-OK
Carl Levin D-MI
Mitch McConnell R-KY

House Intelligence Committee:
Mike Rogers  R-MI
Mac Thornberry R-TX
Jeff Miller R-FL
Mike Conaway R-TX
Peter King R-NY
Frank LoBiondo R-NJ
Devin Nunes R-CA
Lynn Westmoreland R-GA
Michele Bachmann R-MN
Thomas J Rooney R-FL
Joe Heck R-NV
Mike Pompeo R-KS

C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger D-MD
Mike Thommpmson D-CA
Jan Schakowsky D-IL
Jim Langevin D-RI
Adam Schiff D-CA
Luis Gutierrez D-IL
Ed Pastor D-AZ
Jim Himes D-CT (one of my guys I have to yell at)
Terri Sewell D-AL

Some of them like Mark Udall and Ron Wyden have been as vocal as they are comfortable with legally speaking...at confronting these issues.  At the same time they have to remember that they cannot be prosecuted for anything they say on the floor of the US Senate.  The problem is that the majority of those listed here phone it in on our dime and do precious little oversight.  Those Ex Officio people are political heads who are also the ones who sign off on intelligence memoranda dealing with black ops as oversight on the executive branch's use of the CIA and military assets.

Regarding Benghazi and other scandals the leadership is remarkably quiet for a good reason.  You can read between the lines on that one.
 
2014-04-02 11:30:52 AM  
correction - they cannot be arrested for anything they say on the senate floor as long as it isn't treasonous, a felony or creates a disturbance of the peace (inciting to riot etc.)
 
2014-04-02 11:35:58 AM  

SundaesChild: Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.


You mean like how it didn't seem to catch the Boston bombers?
 
2014-04-02 11:37:12 AM  

edmo: So you're saying Congress writes the law? Who knew?


But remember, it's also up to the President whether or not they pass it.
 
2014-04-02 11:47:45 AM  

machoprogrammer: You mean like how it didn't seem to catch the Boston bombers?


I remember something about a Congress critter saying there might be a way to listen to their previous cell phone conversations.

This is the problem with listening to, and keeping records for EVERYONE - you've got so much data that it's damn near impossible to figure out what is relevant and what isn't, when if you were targeting specific people (such as those for whom there is compelling evidence of wrongdoing to procure a warrant), your focus is narrow enough that even limited manpower is sufficient.

If we hired half the country to listen in the phone calls of the other half, we wouldn't have any people left to listen to the phone calls of those people!
 
m00
2014-04-02 11:53:52 AM  

ox45tallboy: If we hired half the country to listen in the phone calls of the other half


...we'd be an eastern bloc state in the cold war.
 
m00
2014-04-02 12:03:49 PM  

ox45tallboy: This is the problem with listening to, and keeping records for EVERYONE - you've got so much data that it's damn near impossible to figure out what is relevant and what isn't,


Scarily, this is where google comes in. As we improve on machine learning and NLP *and* we ever get that quantum computer ready for prime-time, then it's trivial to listen to what everyone citizen is doing in real time, and then flag stuff for a human to review when certain conditions are triggered.
 
2014-04-02 12:14:40 PM  

ox45tallboy: machoprogrammer: You mean like how it didn't seem to catch the Boston bombers?

I remember something about a Congress critter saying there might be a way to listen to their previous cell phone conversations.

This is the problem with listening to, and keeping records for EVERYONE - you've got so much data that it's damn near impossible to figure out what is relevant and what isn't, when if you were targeting specific people (such as those for whom there is compelling evidence of wrongdoing to procure a warrant), your focus is narrow enough that even limited manpower is sufficient.

If we hired half the country to listen in the phone calls of the other half, we wouldn't have any people left to listen to the phone calls of those people!


You need a series of cards...

images.nymag.com
 
2014-04-02 12:19:07 PM  
Just wanted to say ...... Great Headline
 
2014-04-02 12:23:07 PM  
Golf clap to subby.

I totally admit that I was expecting the CEO of Intel in TFA.
 
2014-04-02 12:23:36 PM  

machoprogrammer: SundaesChild: Yawn.

Today: "Zomg! They are spying on Americans! Impeach Obama (or is it Taft?)!"

Some day in the future when some right wing crazy blows up another federal building: "Zomg! Why didn't anyone have intel on this guy? Impeach Obama!"

The government sometimes uses surveillance on citizens. We know this. It's kind of part of the job. Unbunch your panties.

You mean like how it didn't seem to catch the Boston bombers?


Excellent example.
 
2014-04-02 01:59:50 PM  
Why would anyone have pride in America?  Only the 1% could love this country.
 
2014-04-02 04:03:28 PM  

neversubmit: washington-babylon: You know, one of these days a whole lot of people are going to get fed up with this B.S. from their supposed representatives and rulers, and they are going to snap. It will be the French Revolution all over again: Bloody, Violent, Brutal, and everyone who had connections to anyone who was formerly holding a public office, or who held one themselves, will be imprisoned or killed. This outcome is inevitable. There are two ways a government will always wind up: Destroyed by an invading force, or destroyed by its own angry people. There are no exceptions to this rule. And the USA is pushing their luck on both fronts.

Those people will most likely kill the wrong ones because they are too dumb to know the right way to fix their problems.


You would be correct. That is why the French Revolution had two parts: the first part everyone knows, then the second, less familiar part where the leaders of the initial revolution were themselves largely killed off due to being the same type of corrupt scumbags as the first batch.
 
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