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(Newser)   Experts rain on teen's parade. Mean experts   (newser.com) divider line 62
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2014-04-02 07:46:53 AM  
I say we change all of our strongly worded letters typeface to comic sans...
 
2014-04-02 07:49:15 AM  

Maul555: I say we change all of our strongly worded letters typeface to comic sans...


Comic sans is never funny.

Comic Sans. Not even once.
 
2014-04-02 07:52:03 AM  
Wingdings for the response.

"Dear Mr Plane-Cat-Sunrise-Left Arrow-Frowning Face..."
 
2014-04-02 07:52:09 AM  
The kid is 14, so I can forgive him for getting it wrong. The original article's writer and the editors who let the asinine story run, however, can lick a warm blob of monkey poo.
 
2014-04-02 07:52:17 AM  
It was a stupid idea to begin with. The kid has to learn that government inefficiency will find a way to shoot down anything that seems like it could save money but would be slightly more work.
 
2014-04-02 07:56:42 AM  
That's ignorant and disrespectful. They're adults. They should know better than to bully the kid with a counteragriument.
 
2014-04-02 07:57:49 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: That's ignorant and disrespectful. They're adults. They should know better than to bully the kid with a counter argument.


/ftfm
 
2014-04-02 08:01:34 AM  
Rain on your parade day would be ironic, right? See, the kid is learning all kinds of life lessons today.
 
2014-04-02 08:02:02 AM  
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2014-04-02 08:05:42 AM  

kid_icarus: Rain on your parade day would be ironic, right? See, the kid is learning all kinds of life lessons today.


No, rain is only ironic on your wedding day.
 
2014-04-02 08:09:19 AM  

maddermaxx: The kid is 14, so I can forgive him for getting it wrong. The original article's writer and the editors who let the asinine story run, however, can lick a warm blob of monkey poo.


Yeah, I can see the kid thinking it was a good idea, but the office assistant should have said, "yeah, that's how we base all of our copier and laser printing purchasing, because it's cheaper than inkjet, everyone knows that"
 
2014-04-02 08:10:34 AM  

cubicjr: kid_icarus: Rain on your parade day would be ironic, right? See, the kid is learning all kinds of life lessons today.

No, rain is only ironic on your wedding day.


I never understood that at all...where I grew up, it was considered good luck.

/not that Alanis morrisette knew what "ironic" meant when she wrote that song, but this one made even less sense that the others
 
2014-04-02 08:20:21 AM  

cubicjr: kid_icarus: Rain on your parade day would be ironic, right? See, the kid is learning all kinds of life lessons today.

No, rain is only ironic on your wedding day.


Just don't leave your cake out in it.
 
2014-04-02 08:22:12 AM  

captainstudd: It was a stupid idea to begin with. The kid has to learn that government inefficiency will find a way to shoot down anything that seems like it could save money but would be slightly more work.


"government inefficiency" = legible font size?

Sure.
 
2014-04-02 08:22:23 AM  

bikerbob59: cubicjr: kid_icarus: Rain on your parade day would be ironic, right? See, the kid is learning all kinds of life lessons today.

No, rain is only ironic on your wedding day.

Just don't leave your cake out in it.


Especially if you'll never have that recipe again.

/OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
2014-04-02 08:24:47 AM  

cryptonomiciosis: Maul555: I say we change all of our strongly worded letters typeface to comic sans...

Comic sans is never funny.

Comic Sans. Not even once.


Why so much hate for Comic Sans?
 
2014-04-02 08:24:54 AM  
Mirchandani is only 14, so he can be excused for not understanding this weirdo oddity of the way fonts are measured.

Kind of a dick thing to say. I doubt most anyone of any age knows how fonts are measured.
 
2014-04-02 08:27:02 AM  
..."Mirchandani is only 14, so he can be excused for not understanding this weirdo oddity  ...

But non-wealthy Republican adults who vote against their own self-interests cannot be excused.
 
2014-04-02 08:29:04 AM  

captainstudd: It was a stupid idea to begin with. The kid has to learn that government inefficiency will find a way to shoot down anything that seems like it could save money but would be slightly more work.


For every nickel saved, the government has a dollar ready to piss away
 
2014-04-02 08:31:27 AM  

maddermaxx: The kid is 14, so I can forgive him for getting it wrong. The original article's writer and the editors who let the asinine story run, however, can lick a warm blob of monkey poo.


No kidding.  Kid had an original idea.  It didn't pan out, but at least he's being creative.

This is the kind of this we should be encouraging.
 
2014-04-02 08:32:12 AM  
What's with all the Comic Sans jokes? Is it 2004 again?
 
2014-04-02 08:34:11 AM  

PanicMan: Mirchandani is only 14, so he can be excused for not understanding this weirdo oddity of the way fonts are measured.

Kind of a dick thing to say. I doubt most anyone of any age knows how fonts are measured.


I thought it was a rather kind thing to say...  unless you're 14, then anything said at all, no matter how nicely said, can damage your fragile teen psyche.
 
2014-04-02 08:34:56 AM  

hamfast gamgee: cryptonomiciosis: Maul555: I say we change all of our strongly worded letters typeface to comic sans...

Comic sans is never funny.

Comic Sans. Not even once.

Why so much hate for Comic Sans?


CSB:
When I was in 7th grade, I used Comic Sans for one of my papers. The teacher took off a point, saying not to use that font ever again, for anything. This was in like 1992.
 
2014-04-02 08:46:39 AM  
Whatever happened to that paperless office you all promised me back in the 80s?

Seriously-  who needs to print shiat out?
 
2014-04-02 08:50:37 AM  

abhorrent1: What's with all the Comic Sans jokes? Is it 2004 again?


nope... its 2005.   Reusing 2004 jokes was sooooo last year...
 
2014-04-02 08:51:59 AM  

BenJammin: ..."Mirchandani is only 14, so he can be excused for not understanding this weirdo oddity  ...

But non-wealthy Republican adults who vote against their own self-interests cannot be excused.


What if they vote for what is good for the country instead of being selfish?
 
2014-04-02 08:53:34 AM  

Greek


CSB:
When I was in 7th grade, I used Comic Sans for one of my papers. The teacher took off a point, saying not to use that font ever again, for anything. This was in like 1992.


No, it wasn't.


The History of Comic Sans

Comic Sans is a script typeface designed by Vincent Connare. It was released in 1994 by Microsoft. The purpose of Comic Sans is to imitate comic book lettering. Comic Sans has been an included in every Microsoft Windows OS since Windows 95.
 
2014-04-02 08:57:21 AM  

cubicjr: kid_icarus: Rain on your parade day would be ironic, right? See, the kid is learning all kinds of life lessons today.

No, rain is only ironic on your wedding day.


But what if my wedding includes a parade?
 
2014-04-02 09:01:04 AM  

ciberido: cubicjr: kid_icarus: Rain on your parade day would be ironic, right? See, the kid is learning all kinds of life lessons today.

No, rain is only ironic on your wedding day.

But what if my wedding includes a parade?


Then at least the marching makes sense.
 
2014-04-02 09:02:43 AM  
True story: my boss uses Comic Sans as his default email font. It's only taken me 2 years to stop face-palming every time an email comes in.
 
2014-04-02 09:11:03 AM  

maddermaxx: The kid is 14, so I can forgive him for getting it wrong. The original article's writer and the editors who let the asinine story run, however, can lick a warm blob of monkey poo.


Make it a cold chunk and you're on.

/papyrus, the hipster Comic Sans.
 
2014-04-02 09:15:14 AM  
It'd be awesome if an "actual" news outlet would report this followup, because someone brought this nonsense up at work yesterday.  It's no skin off my back--we could use comic sans for all I care--but the workload of switching absolutely everything from Courier would be a hell of a pain.

When the idea was brought up here, I said it sounded kind of ridiculous, but no one listens to me anyway, and it'd be nice to have something other than a Newser article to print out to justify NOT spending hours switching over our whole type system for no reason.
 
2014-04-02 09:17:55 AM  

filter: Whatever happened to that paperless office you all promised me back in the 80s?

Seriously-  who needs to print shiat out?


Because true paperless environments require a significant investment in technology NOW. You can't just but everyone a copy of Adobe pro and call it good.
 
2014-04-02 09:18:09 AM  
I was at a conference for work a couple weeks ago, and one person's presentation was written entirely in Comic Sans.

Try as I might, I simply could not pay attention to the content of the talk.  All I could think about the entire time was what a terrible font it is.

Why would anyone use that font for any serious material in a professional setting?!  What is wrong with people?

You wouldn't give a serious presentation while dressed in a clown suit, because no one would take you seriously.  But when you use Comic Sans you are doing the same thing.  You are dressing your words in a clown suit.
 
2014-04-02 09:19:51 AM  

bborchar: cubicjr: kid_icarus: Rain on your parade day would be ironic, right? See, the kid is learning all kinds of life lessons today.

No, rain is only ironic on your wedding day.

I never understood that at all...where I grew up, it was considered good luck.

/not that Alanis morrisette knew what "ironic" meant when she wrote that song, but this one made even less sense that the others


Actually, most of her examples work, for the particular type of irony she was discussing.  The problem is that there is more than one type of irony.

The "rain on your wedding day" example works from the point of view that rain is something one normally desires, just not on one's wedding day.   I seem to remember reading someone one definition of irony that went something like "the unfortunate juxtaposition of two otherwise desirable events," but I can't seem to find that definition anywhere now.

On the other hand, there's a story that some fan once confronted Morissette with "The irony of your song is that none of your examples are ironic" to which she supposedly replied, "Yes, I know" --- which would make the song verbal irony.
 
2014-04-02 09:20:58 AM  

Valiente: maddermaxx: The kid is 14, so I can forgive him for getting it wrong. The original article's writer and the editors who let the asinine story run, however, can lick a warm blob of monkey poo.

Make it a cold chunk and you're on.

/papyrus, the hipster Comic Sans.


I can think of a better use for papyrus.
cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com
 
2014-04-02 09:21:12 AM  

CalvinMorallis: It'd be awesome if an "actual" news outlet would report this followup, because someone brought this nonsense up at work yesterday.


Why would they report on the facts?  The original story had a scrappy kid and an air of truthiness.  That's all the news media needs to run with.
 
2014-04-02 09:22:37 AM  

PanicMan: Mirchandani is only 14, so he can be excused for not understanding this weirdo oddity of the way fonts are measured.

Kind of a dick thing to say. I doubt most anyone of any age knows how fonts are measured.


All you have to do is change fonts in a word processor (while keeping the point size the same) and notice that the text now is larger or smaller than before.  It's pretty self evident that "12" doesn't actually measure the size of the letters.
 
2014-04-02 09:29:23 AM  
I see what you did there Subby, and I approve.
 
2014-04-02 09:33:28 AM  
I like that the guy's polite takedown of the idea even starts with the same caveats about it still being a good science fair project and kudos to the kid for being clever as most of ours did.  Makes it pretty clear that nobody that actually knows anything about science wants to discourage him, even if we think the people that blew the story up are retarded.


PanicMan: Kind of a dick thing to say. I doubt most anyone of any age knows how fonts are measured.


An  adult making the same claim would deserve to catch a lot of shiat for not looking it up first before presenting the results as conclusive, though.  It's more forgivable for a child to just assume the measurement system was an absolute measurement of font size instead of a relative one.

If he were 24 and making this claim he'd be a moron, but at 14 he deserves a thumbs-up for actually figuring out how science and the empirical paradigm work and applying them to non-obvious problems.

So... no, not really a dick thing to say, it's a legitimate caveat.
 
2014-04-02 09:51:36 AM  

Lee451: BenJammin: ..."Mirchandani is only 14, so he can be excused for not understanding this weirdo oddity  ...

But non-wealthy Republican adults who vote against their own self-interests cannot be excused.

What if they vote for what is good for the country instead of being selfish?


Taking away food stamps from hungry families and making it more difficult for poor people to vote is for the good of the country?
 
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2014-04-02 09:54:52 AM  

Doc Daneeka: I was at a conference for work a couple weeks ago, and one person's presentation was written entirely in Comic Sans.

Try as I might, I simply could not pay attention to the content of the talk.  All I could think about the entire time was what a terrible font it is.


A department in my company compiles conference presentations to send to the delegates after the event (they collect all the white papers and powerpoint slides and send them as a PDF so all the attendees can refer back to them later). The number of PPT presentations you seethat use Comic Sans is absolutely incredible. Escpecially in the "soft-sciences".
 
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2014-04-02 10:02:40 AM  

bborchar: cubicjr: kid_icarus: Rain on your parade day would be ironic, right? See, the kid is learning all kinds of life lessons today.

No, rain is only ironic on your wedding day.

I never understood that at all...where I grew up, it was considered good luck.

/not that Alanis morrisette knew what "ironic" meant when she wrote that song, but this one made even less sense that the others


Maybe she was a genius, since the only thing ironic about the song was the song itself.
 
2014-04-02 10:09:30 AM  
Good, that is over. We need our experts to get back to drawing red lines with green ink.
 
2014-04-02 10:21:52 AM  

cubicjr: No, rain is only ironic on your wedding day


Agreed.  I've always thought it ironic that the song Ironic is not really about things that are ironic.
 
2014-04-02 10:29:09 AM  

Doc Daneeka: You wouldn't give a serious presentation while dressed in a clown suit, because no one would take you seriously. But when you use Comic Sans you are doing the same thing. You are dressing your words in a clown suit.


I work in the nuclear industry.  Regularly I review papers analyzing the possible consequences of nuclear meltdowns, radiation doses, changes to safety systems, etc.  Several engineers use Comic Sans for their default font.  I have a hard time reading about loss of coolant accidents and subsequent core damage when the analysis is in Comic Sans; it's a real disconnect.

http://bancomicsans.com/main/
 
2014-04-02 10:56:39 AM  
Every single time you see some kid have a major revelation that somehow slipped by all the experts, assume it's a slow news day and complete bullshiat. Examples that come to mind include this kid and the "solar panels arranged like a tree" kid from a few years back.  Sorry to burst your bubbles, but children are farking stupid. Their brains haven't finished forming. If you're a kid, I've got news for you: no matter how together, responsible, or a smart you think you are, in five years you are going to invariably look back at yourself and think "wow, I was a goddamned idiot." I know you think you're an exception; but everyone thinks that and they are all wrong, just like you.
 
2014-04-02 10:58:40 AM  

hamfast gamgee: cryptonomiciosis: Maul555: I say we change all of our strongly worded letters typeface to comic sans...

Comic sans is never funny.

Comic Sans. Not even once.

Why so much hate for Comic Sans?


Emmanuel Goldstein created it.
 
2014-04-02 11:00:47 AM  

Jim_Callahan: I like that the guy's polite takedown of the idea even starts with the same caveats about it still being a good science fair project and kudos to the kid for being clever as most of ours did.  Makes it pretty clear that nobody that actually knows anything about science wants to discourage him, even if we think the people that blew the story up are retarded.


PanicMan: Kind of a dick thing to say. I doubt most anyone of any age knows how fonts are measured.

An  adult making the same claim would deserve to catch a lot of shiat for not looking it up first before presenting the results as conclusive, though.  It's more forgivable for a child to just assume the measurement system was an absolute measurement of font size instead of a relative one.

If he were 24 and making this claim he'd be a moron, but at 14 he deserves a thumbs-up for actually figuring out how science and the empirical paradigm work and applying them to non-obvious problems.

So... no, not really a dick thing to say, it's a legitimate caveat.


My issue is with dismissing him because of age. The response assumes he's too young to understand it, when actually it sounds like an oversight.

I guess I'm a moron, because I have no idea how fonts are measured.

Although I didn't read his original proposal, so I don't know the details, but I would have assumed you'd non-dimensionalize first. But even if an adult made this mistake, I wouldn't correct them in that way.
 
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