the801: good thing suicides don't count as combat deaths.
Print'sNotDead: I completely LOVE the FARK April Fools nicknames. Can I keep calling Vlad Putin "Pootie-Tang" from here on out please?
nmrsnr: When 49 percent of people said "yes, it was mistake" they could have meant one (or both) of two things:
The Stealth Hippopotamus: It would have been nice to celebrate this good news without the political snark and partisanship.But since when are we about nice?
Daedalus27: fluffy2097: Daedalus27: Afghanistan was necessary to fight.No it wasn't. For what we have spent fighting Afghanistan we could have BOUGHT IT outright. fark fighting, we could have just paid every single terrorists and political official off, and we STILL would have saved billions of dollars over fighting a war for over a decade.So you believe there should have been no consequences for the regime that allowed terrorist to plan and attack the US on 9/11? How many attacks would you have allowed to occur before you would have acted. How long until you would have biatched and complained that Bush was doing nothing to protect our nation from those trying to kill us? If you are suggesting this, then you are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree strongly that any president could have done nothing after 9/11 against those who provided support (whether active or merely passive by allowing Al Qaeda to operate freely) in Afghanistan.A fight of some kind in Afghanistan was absolutely necessary. Now certainly we can question whether a protracted 13 year engagement costing thousands of lives and trillions of dollars was the best strategy to implement. Dropping bombs and giving the Northern alliance enough support to make Afghanistan a truly failed state with an active civil war may have been cheaper but would have had other consequences down the road even if on the cheap as we are seeing in Libya now after that strategy has been attempted there. Even a more robust operation of inserting sizeable ground troops and engaging against the Taliban/Al Qaeda up to say the period of the fight in Tora Bora before withdrawing the next year may have been a option to do significant damage to the Taliban and Al Qaeda before leaving the area. Those fantasizing about dropping only one or two nuclear weapons aren't being realistic as those weapons cannot be used politically in these circumstances so why bring them up? Taking the route of an active role for years in fighting in the re ...
Daedalus27: So you believe there should have been no consequences for the regime that allowed terrorist to plan and attack the US on 9/11?
Brick-House: And at the end of Obama's tenure as Commander in Chief, both Iraq and Afganistan will be back in the hands of the terrorists we were trying to remove, turning this into a complete waste of time, treasure and lives. Oh, and Iran will most likly have a nuke. So yeah, Thanks Obama.
feickus: I believe that, when I was in Afghanistan, I don't know how many times I was told, "I thought the war was over" They were referring to Iraq.
fluffy2097: Lcpl_Dunno: Full disclosure, I have lost more than a couple friends to those people.My condolences.Personally, my view on war is you are all in, or all out. This doctrine the US military has of being 'peacekeepers' to protect our political interest just leads to protracted bloodshed over generations.Either we shouldn't start a war at all, or we should be wiping entire sections of the map off the face of the planet, then salting the earth behind us so nothing will ever grow there again./Not surprisingly, I rarely believe that war is the go to option for solving a problem.//I'm more of an isolationist.
nmrsnr: However I still believe that harboring Al Qaeda and allowing them to attack the US like they did was an act of war, and retaliation was appropriate.
bdub77: Good.A February Gallup survey found that 49 percent thought [the war in Afghanistan] was a mistake and 48 percent did not. That was a radical shift from November 2001, when 9 percent thought it was a mistake while 89 percent did not.This just tells you how fickle and shortsighted the American public is about war.I have chickenhawk friends telling me they think Taft is weak for not starting WW III w/Pootie Tang for Crimea./notthisshiatagain.jpg
bdub77: This just tells you how fickle and shortsighted the American public is about war.
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