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2014-04-01 05:31:57 PM  
OK this is getting silly.
 
2014-04-01 05:41:41 PM  

fusillade762: OK this is getting silly.


Wrong. It's been silly from the start.
 
2014-04-01 05:43:09 PM  
They misspell dumbass
 
2014-04-01 05:43:45 PM  
what, no  img1.fark.net tag?
 
2014-04-01 05:53:02 PM  
It was interesting back then.  Now, it's ironic.
 
2014-04-01 06:50:38 PM  
Thanks, Taft
 
2014-04-01 06:54:59 PM  
[redacted by the NSA], Taft shouldn't be in my BooWIEs
 
2014-04-01 07:19:14 PM  

xanadian: It was interesting back then.  Now, it's ironic.


Why don't you call me when it gets to kitsch.
 
2014-04-01 07:25:16 PM  

LewDux: [redacted by the NSA], Taft shouldn't be in my BooWIEs


There has to be a way to link all of the wombats up into one epic post...
 
2014-04-01 07:26:57 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-01 07:29:22 PM  
NATO love a good old fashioned sabre rattling.
 
2014-04-01 07:39:13 PM  
Stupid Russia, it is like they don't know that they are the bad guys and that it is OK when we do it because we are the good guys.
 
2014-04-01 07:48:01 PM  
Because anyone is listening to what Russia has to say about aggressive posturing right now.
 
2014-04-01 07:49:47 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: NATO love a good old fashioned sabre rattling.


Really?

Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Gulf of Aden pirates, and Libya would like to have a word with you.
 
2014-04-01 08:15:10 PM  
If anyone has iHeart radio, the 247 Comedy channel is having a "Russian takeover" week. Yakov Smirnov is being played, hopefully they will play some Eugene Mirman too.

Quinn (the hostess) is saying that Pootie Tang has a tiny vagina.
 
2014-04-01 08:15:39 PM  

ADHD Librarian: Stupid Russia, it is like they don't know that they are the bad guys and that it is OK when we do it because we are the good guys.


It is okay when we do it because NATO members join of their own free volition, as opposed to being invaded by ununiformed Russian soldiers and then annexed.
 
2014-04-01 08:16:30 PM  
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That article just pegged the hypocrometer.
 
2014-04-01 08:16:32 PM  
never forget partisan rock. no, not ever

geeknation.com
 
2014-04-01 08:20:35 PM  
Maybe if your country didn't have a 500 year history of being a giant dick to Eastern European nations, we wouldn't be in this little situation, now would we? Eastern Europe begged to get into NATO. What were we supposed to do, turn them out into the cold with the wolves howling? Expect that the EU would have any institutional military value whatsoever?
 
2014-04-01 08:37:43 PM  
Yeah, well, let's make out, you time-warping Russki bastards! We'll see you in hell.

*Ptooey*
 
2014-04-01 08:38:31 PM  

RexTalionis: ADHD Librarian: Stupid Russia, it is like they don't know that they are the bad guys and that it is OK when we do it because we are the good guys.

It is okay when we do it because NATO members join of their own free volition, as opposed to being invaded by ununiformed Russian soldiers and then annexed.


You wouldn't think people would have to be told that.
 
2014-04-01 08:39:47 PM  
Well... that's an interesting filter for this fine day.
 
2014-04-01 08:41:31 PM  
TFA: 4/1/2004
 
2014-04-01 08:46:59 PM  
img.fark.net
Gadzooks, I missed this completely...Thought it was just another stupid throwback article!
 
2014-04-01 08:48:58 PM  

CruJones: Because anyone is listening to what Russia has to say about aggressive posturing right now.


Damn it, I've known it was 2004 day since the first thread and I still got punked. And I was here in ought four.
 
2014-04-01 08:54:07 PM  
I was a young, strapping 32 year old world beater in 2004 with a great job, a retirement, and limitless possibilities


then I farked it all up

ah well
 
2014-04-01 09:13:51 PM  
Easy way to get them to cancel. Have little chat with Pootty.
 
2014-04-01 10:12:36 PM  
How much you wanna bet that Russia does something to push back one day like annex Crimea from Ukraine or something... and NATO will be all upset and blustery but do nothing in the end?

Of course, only someone who came up in the old Soviet system like Pootie Tang would pull off something like that, and he'll be out of power in Russia by then.
 
2014-04-01 10:15:30 PM  
2004, ie "the time when most farkers were in diapers". baby noobs.
 
2014-04-01 10:24:44 PM  
russia is right, and props for them for standing up to a bunch of dipshiat u.s. and nato cowardess.
 
2014-04-01 11:01:15 PM  

vodka: 2004, ie "the time when most farkers were in diapers". baby noobs.


Pipe down over there youngun, us old timers are busy adjusting the onions on our belts
 
2014-04-01 11:06:16 PM  
Yeah, didn't they condemn the U.S.'s involvement in Afghanistan, too?
 
2014-04-01 11:11:30 PM  

FlashHarry: what, no  [img1.fark.net image 108x22] tag?


Is it like rain, on a wedding day?
 
2014-04-01 11:22:58 PM  
Russia should be careful,  if they do something rash it might end with a NATO nation right on their border.
 
2014-04-01 11:43:17 PM  
Of course this is impossible I've been told by Politics tab Far Far's that Russia was tote's happy with having NATO as a next door neighbor and that one day even Russia could join the club.

Laughter OL, NATO would dissolve if they tried to include Russia.The west is hoping to colonize the old USSR Eastern European countries and use their cheap labor. While Austerity measures from the IMF gobble up natural resources but sure Russia's bad, and the enemy of or enemy is or friend.

/Heh, but I've been told to read a book but when I asked which books they would recommend, I never got a response.

//Interesting
 
2014-04-02 08:01:53 AM  

RexTalionis: ADHD Librarian: Stupid Russia, it is like they don't know that they are the bad guys and that it is OK when we do it because we are the good guys.

It is okay when we do it because NATO members join of their own free volition, as opposed to being invaded by ununiformed Russian soldiers and then annexed.


Mother of God, this.
 
2014-04-02 10:17:04 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Of course this is impossible I've been told by Politics tab Far Far's that Russia was tote's happy with having NATO as a next door neighbor and that one day even Russia could join the club.

Laughter OL, NATO would dissolve if they tried to include Russia.The west is hoping to colonize the old USSR Eastern European countries and use their cheap labor. While Austerity measures from the IMF gobble up natural resources but sure Russia's bad, and the enemy of or enemy is or friend.

/Heh, but I've been told to read a book but when I asked which books they would recommend, I never got a response.

//Interesting


As a Lithuanian, I find your willingness to speak for us to be quite puzzling.
 
2014-04-02 11:09:00 AM  

vygramul: tinfoil-hat maggie: Of course this is impossible I've been told by Politics tab Far Far's that Russia was tote's happy with having NATO as a next door neighbor and that one day even Russia could join the club.

Laughter OL, NATO would dissolve if they tried to include Russia.The west is hoping to colonize the old USSR Eastern European countries and use their cheap labor. While Austerity measures from the IMF gobble up natural resources but sure Russia's bad, and the enemy of or enemy is or friend.

/Heh, but I've been told to read a book but when I asked which books they would recommend, I never got a response.

//Interesting

As a Lithuanian, I find your willingness to speak for us to be quite puzzling.


I find it puzzling how you think I'm trying to speak for Lithuanians?
 
2014-04-02 02:22:48 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: vygramul: tinfoil-hat maggie: Of course this is impossible I've been told by Politics tab Far Far's that Russia was tote's happy with having NATO as a next door neighbor and that one day even Russia could join the club.

Laughter OL, NATO would dissolve if they tried to include Russia.The west is hoping to colonize the old USSR Eastern European countries and use their cheap labor. While Austerity measures from the IMF gobble up natural resources but sure Russia's bad, and the enemy of or enemy is or friend.

/Heh, but I've been told to read a book but when I asked which books they would recommend, I never got a response.

//Interesting

As a Lithuanian, I find your willingness to speak for us to be quite puzzling.

I find it puzzling how you think I'm trying to speak for Lithuanians?


You seem to think that NATO was interested in the Baltics rather than the Baltics desperately begging to be allowed to join in the vain hope that when Russia next attacks the alliance will save us. If anything, the West was reluctant. There's no real advantage to being only slightly cheaper than American labor, not when China happily provides slave labor for reasonable prices.

The West only allowed us in because of residual guilt for having handed us over to Stalin. "Oh, did we do that? Our bad. You can join NATO and pretend we'll help you out when they come gunning for you again."

Amusingly, what's happening in Ukraine is EXACTLY why Russia experts were generally against the Baltics being allowed in. "There are significant Russian minorities in the former Soviet states. Do you really want to fight a major war against Russia when they intervene to "protect" their people?"

To argue this is a colonial move on the part of the West denies agency, as if the Baltic peoples aren't really capable of wanting NATO membership. This is especially silly considering the preposterously cheap labor the US has exploited throughout the world without first needing to invite them to enter an alliance.
 
2014-04-02 03:47:37 PM  

vygramul: tinfoil-hat maggie: vygramul: tinfoil-hat maggie: Of course this is impossible I've been told by Politics tab Far Far's that Russia was tote's happy with having NATO as a next door neighbor and that one day even Russia could join the club.

Laughter OL, NATO would dissolve if they tried to include Russia.The west is hoping to colonize the old USSR Eastern European countries and use their cheap labor. While Austerity measures from the IMF gobble up natural resources but sure Russia's bad, and the enemy of or enemy is or friend.

/Heh, but I've been told to read a book but when I asked which books they would recommend, I never got a response.

//Interesting

As a Lithuanian, I find your willingness to speak for us to be quite puzzling.

I find it puzzling how you think I'm trying to speak for Lithuanians?

You seem to think that NATO was interested in the Baltics rather than the Baltics desperately begging to be allowed to join in the vain hope that when Russia next attacks the alliance will save us. If anything, the West was reluctant. There's no real advantage to being only slightly cheaper than American labor, not when China happily provides slave labor for reasonable prices.

The West only allowed us in because of residual guilt for having handed us over to Stalin. "Oh, did we do that? Our bad. You can join NATO and pretend we'll help you out when they come gunning for you again."

Amusingly, what's happening in Ukraine is EXACTLY why Russia experts were generally against the Baltics being allowed in. "There are significant Russian minorities in the former Soviet states. Do you really want to fight a major war against Russia when they intervene to "protect" their people?"

To argue this is a colonial move on the part of the West denies agency, as if the Baltic peoples aren't really capable of wanting NATO membership. This is especially silly considering the preposterously cheap labor the US has exploited throughout the world without first needing to invi ...


LoL, right well you're wrong about what I think, and what I think isn't relative to the discussion at hand. What I said was Russia wasn't happy with NATO as their next door neighbor.

Yeah a was surmised when the US, UK handed the Baltic States over to Statin what with all the American and UK troops that died ending the German occupation their in 1944. Oh wait, that's not how it happened Soviet occupation of the Baltic states (1944)

/History Nerd trumps nationalist feelings ; )
 
2014-04-02 05:56:04 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: LoL, right well you're wrong about what I think, and what I think isn't relative to the discussion at hand. What I said was Russia wasn't happy with NATO as their next door neighbor.

Yeah a was surmised when the US, UK handed the Baltic States over to Statin what with all the American and UK troops that died ending the German occupation their in 1944. Oh wait, that's not how it happened Soviet occupation of the Baltic states (1944)

/History Nerd trumps nationalist feelings ; )


You would be the first to argue that the Western powers didn't hand the Sudetenland to the Germans. You would NOT be the first to think Soviet occupation only happened in 1944.
 
2014-04-02 06:32:46 PM  

vygramul: tinfoil-hat maggie: LoL, right well you're wrong about what I think, and what I think isn't relative to the discussion at hand. What I said was Russia wasn't happy with NATO as their next door neighbor.

Yeah a was surmised when the US, UK handed the Baltic States over to Statin what with all the American and UK troops that died ending the German occupation their in 1944. Oh wait, that's not how it happened Soviet occupation of the Baltic states (1944)

/History Nerd trumps nationalist feelings ; )

You would be the first to argue that the Western powers didn't hand the Sudetenland to the Germans. You would NOT be the first to think Soviet occupation only happened in 1944.


Have I said any such thing darlin,. lol. If you want to discuss things don't try and put words in my mouth. My position is and has been that it is dangerous to make Russia feel isolated. Russia has always been screwed over by the West. For example the Russo-Turkish War around 1890 IIRC the Russians have the Turks near beaten and Istanbul is under siege and likely to become Christian Constantinople again. Well the Brit's normally wouldn't mind but they had just acquired Egypt and were worried about the Russian Black Sea Feet having unhindered access to the Mediterranean. So they send a battle ship fleet to shell the Russian besiegers. Germany also didn't want Russia stronger so innocently offered to arbitrate and Russia had to bulled back to the lines from before the war started. Made the Russians move to protect Serbia 24 years later.

/Oh, and Lithuania is like your mom who hasn't had her over the years ; )
 
2014-04-02 07:21:37 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: vygramul: tinfoil-hat maggie: LoL, right well you're wrong about what I think, and what I think isn't relative to the discussion at hand. What I said was Russia wasn't happy with NATO as their next door neighbor.

Yeah a was surmised when the US, UK handed the Baltic States over to Statin what with all the American and UK troops that died ending the German occupation their in 1944. Oh wait, that's not how it happened Soviet occupation of the Baltic states (1944)

/History Nerd trumps nationalist feelings ; )

You would be the first to argue that the Western powers didn't hand the Sudetenland to the Germans. You would NOT be the first to think Soviet occupation only happened in 1944.

Have I said any such thing darlin,. lol. If you want to discuss things don't try and put words in my mouth. My position is and has been that it is dangerous to make Russia feel isolated. Russia has always been screwed over by the West. For example the Russo-Turkish War around 1890 IIRC the Russians have the Turks near beaten and Istanbul is under siege and likely to become Christian Constantinople again. Well the Brit's normally wouldn't mind but they had just acquired Egypt and were worried about the Russian Black Sea Feet having unhindered access to the Mediterranean. So they send a battle ship fleet to shell the Russian besiegers. Germany also didn't want Russia stronger so innocently offered to arbitrate and Russia had to bulled back to the lines from before the war started. Made the Russians move to protect Serbia 24 years later.

/Oh, and Lithuania is like your mom who hasn't had her over the years ; )


Except, of course, the West was more than happy to expand Russia's power at the Congress of Vienna. And just how was the West screwing Russia in WWI where they were allies? Or WWII where they were allies? Or at Yalta, where Russia got pretty much everything they wanted? Sounds to me that the Russians being screwed by the West PALES in comparison to the Eastern Europeans being screwed by the West AND Russia. So now, for a brief moment, Eastern Europe isn't screwed by the West and this is some kind of moral affront to the Russkies? Pathetic.
 
2014-04-02 07:52:20 PM  

vygramul: tinfoil-hat maggie: vygramul: tinfoil-hat maggie: LoL, right well you're wrong about what I think, and what I think isn't relative to the discussion at hand. What I said was Russia wasn't happy with NATO as their next door neighbor.

Yeah a was surmised when the US, UK handed the Baltic States over to Statin what with all the American and UK troops that died ending the German occupation their in 1944. Oh wait, that's not how it happened Soviet occupation of the Baltic states (1944)

/History Nerd trumps nationalist feelings ; )

You would be the first to argue that the Western powers didn't hand the Sudetenland to the Germans. You would NOT be the first to think Soviet occupation only happened in 1944.

Have I said any such thing darlin,. lol. If you want to discuss things don't try and put words in my mouth. My position is and has been that it is dangerous to make Russia feel isolated. Russia has always been screwed over by the West. For example the Russo-Turkish War around 1890 IIRC the Russians have the Turks near beaten and Istanbul is under siege and likely to become Christian Constantinople again. Well the Brit's normally wouldn't mind but they had just acquired Egypt and were worried about the Russian Black Sea Feet having unhindered access to the Mediterranean. So they send a battle ship fleet to shell the Russian besiegers. Germany also didn't want Russia stronger so innocently offered to arbitrate and Russia had to bulled back to the lines from before the war started. Made the Russians move to protect Serbia 24 years later.

/Oh, and Lithuania is like your mom who hasn't had her over the years ; )

Except, of course, the West was more than happy to expand Russia's power at the Congress of Vienna. And just how was the West screwing Russia in WWI where they were allies? Or WWII where they were allies? Or at Yalta, where Russia got pretty much everything they wanted? Sounds to me that the Russians being screwed by the West PALES in comparison to the Eas ...


Imma, stop ya right there, America, Germany, France and England are part of the colloquial term "the West" they have all invade Russia at on time or another.

Oh and the Yalta BS the War would have lasted another year if the Soviets stopped at a line further back. Winston Churchill made his "Iron Curtain " comment as soon as the war was over. Patton made his before the war was over. Stalin was connived we waited till June '44 for Operation Overlord to make sure more Russians died in fighting..

The CIA was worried the Communist were going to win the Italian election after the war so they funded the opposition and had Italian American write to there relatives. But it was all Joe's fault. What part of Russia was beaten as a child and in every adult relationship it ever had?

/Please stop embarrassing yourself.
 
2014-04-02 09:14:47 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Imma, stop ya right there, America, Germany, France and England are part of the colloquial term "the West" they have all invade Russia at on time or another.

Oh and the Yalta BS the War would have lasted another year if the Soviets stopped at a line further back. Winston Churchill made his "Iron Curtain " comment as soon as the war was over. Patton made his before the war was over. Stalin was connived we waited till June '44 for Operation Overlord to make sure more Russians died in fighting..

The CIA was worried the Communist were going to win the Italian election after the war so they funded the opposition and had Italian American write to there relatives. But it was all Joe's fault. What part of Russia was beaten as a child and in every adult relationship it ever had?

/Please stop embarrassing yourself.


Please. If anyone is embarrassing themselves, it's your amateur understanding of history, especially one that relies on conspiracy theories like June '44 being purely about making sure Russians died. Maybe some examination of the TO&E and lift capacity of the Atlantic forces would give you some idea of how preposterous that claim is. If we really wanted to kill Russians, we could have done a fine job by not taking the vast majority of the Luftwaffe away from the East Front and then had "problems" delivering lend-lease support. (Cue amateur discussion regarding the number and quality of weapons sent via lend-lease.)

Ultimately, where you finish fighting has little to do with what countries get to be free. For example, Waterloo was fought by the English and Prussians in a place that no one got to keep. It's almost like they all agreed to GO HOME rather than keep what they captured.

And you really think the war would have gone another year? To May of '46? It's almost as if you're unaware of developments that pretty much guaranteed that it wouldn't have seen another May.
 
2014-04-02 09:40:54 PM  

vygramul: tinfoil-hat maggie: Imma, stop ya right there, America, Germany, France and England are part of the colloquial term "the West" they have all invade Russia at on time or another.

Oh and the Yalta BS the War would have lasted another year if the Soviets stopped at a line further back. Winston Churchill made his "Iron Curtain " comment as soon as the war was over. Patton made his before the war was over. Stalin was connived we waited till June '44 for Operation Overlord to make sure more Russians died in fighting..

The CIA was worried the Communist were going to win the Italian election after the war so they funded the opposition and had Italian American write to there relatives. But it was all Joe's fault. What part of Russia was beaten as a child and in every adult relationship it ever had?

/Please stop embarrassing yourself.

Please. If anyone is embarrassing themselves, it's your amateur understanding of history, especially one that relies on conspiracy theories like June '44 being purely about making sure Russians died. Maybe some examination of the TO&E and lift capacity of the Atlantic forces would give you some idea of how preposterous that claim is. If we really wanted to kill Russians, we could have done a fine job by not taking the vast majority of the Luftwaffe away from the East Front and then had "problems" delivering lend-lease support. (Cue amateur discussion regarding the number and quality of weapons sent via lend-lease.)

Ultimately, where you finish fighting has little to do with what countries get to be free. For example, Waterloo was fought by the English and Prussians in a place that no one got to keep. It's almost like they all agreed to GO HOME rather than keep what they captured.

And you really think the war would have gone another year? To May of '46? It's almost as if you're unaware of developments that pretty much guaranteed that it wouldn't have seen another May.


Really nice straw man I did not say that Stalin did. Over and over...

The other point if the Western Allies hadn't agreed to the stop lines agree to when do you believe the three army groups under Monty(North), Bradley(central) and Patton( South) also you forget what would have happened with German force redirection as the Soviets hit their stop lines. Sure Stalin was a paranoid murder of millions through his pogrom's but Stalin didn't start it.

FTFL
A pogrom is a violent riot aimed at massacre or persecution of an ethnic or religious group, particularly one aimed at Jews. The term originally entered the English language to describe 19th- and 20th-century attacks on Jews in the Russian Empire (mostly within the Pale of Settlement in present-day Ukraine); similar attacks against Jews at other times and places also became retrospectively known as pogroms. The word is now also sometimes used to describe publicly sanctioned purgative attacks against non-Jewish ethnic or religious groups.[2][3][4][5][6]
Significant pogroms in the Russian Empire included the Odessa pogroms, Warsaw pogrom (1881), Kishinev pogrom (1903), Kiev Pogrom (1905), and Białystok pogrom (1906), and, after the 1917 Russian Revolution, the Lwów pogrom (1918) and Kiev Pogroms (1919). The most significant pogrom in Nazi Germany was the Kristallnacht of 1938 in which 91 Jews were killed, a further 30,000 arrested and subsequently incarcerated in concentration camps,[7] 1,000 synagogues burned, and over 7,000 Jewish businesses destroyed or damaged.[8][9]
Notorious pogroms of World War II included the 1941 Farhud in Iraq, the July 1941 Iaşi pogrom in Romania - in which over 13,200 Jews were killed - as well as the Jedwabne pogrom in Poland. Post-World War II pogroms included the 1945 Tripoli pogrom, the 1946 Kielce pogrom and the 1947 Aleppo pogrom.
Pogroms against non-Jews include the 1914 anti-Serb pogrom in Sarajevo, 1966 anti-Igbo pogrom against Igbos in southern Nigeria; the 1988 Sumgait and Kirovabad pogroms, and the 1990 Baku pogrom in which ethnic Armenians were targeted.
 
2014-04-02 09:48:53 PM  
I think you're missing some words in there.
 
2014-04-02 10:17:02 PM  

vygramul: I think you're missing some words in there.


I think you missed a good bit of all my post so... well... you're farky sticks and is appropriate . So do you actually live in Lithuania? Or are you an American of Lithuanian decent?

I may have missed some words but I worked hard today and feel good now an you missed well, no you made up all my point's so dude really stop being a "whiney little something or other"
 
2014-04-02 10:18:51 PM  
Oh , and I'm done with you you're not informative,smart or fun so ....
 
2014-04-02 10:24:31 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: vygramul: I think you're missing some words in there.

I think you missed a good bit of all my post so... well... you're farky sticks and is appropriate . So do you actually live in Lithuania? Or are you an American of Lithuanian decent?


Dual citizenship. I live in the U.S., but the family farm is still going strong. They keep pestering me to go back every August to help with harvesting.

I may have missed some words but I worked hard today and feel good now an you missed well, no you made up all my point's so dude really stop being a "whiney little something or other"

The Russians are victims and have a right to whine. THEIR victims, on the other hand...

tinfoil-hat maggie: Oh , and I'm done with you you're not informative,smart or fun so ....


...says the person whose history is learned from whatdoesitmean.com and the underside of Snapple caps.
 
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