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(ESPN)   DeSean Jackson moving closer to deal with Washington Redskins, as long as he does not drop the ball just before reaching the goal line   (espn.go.com) divider line 60
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2014-04-01 06:52:11 PM  
That pesky goal line has given DeSean quite a few problems in the past.
 
2014-04-01 08:43:18 PM  
He could grab both of the balls and fall back at the line
 
2014-04-01 08:48:21 PM  
Isn't the size of the cap room the Bengals still have equivalent to the GDP of Montenegro? I know DeSean signing there could invoke more "Laughter OL Bungles crime" jokes, but, seriously; him as the #2 receiver to AJ Green is pretty formidable at least on paper, and even Andy Goddamn Dalton would find a way to not throw 4 picks in a playoff game with those two at his disposal.

Well, actually, he might still do that, but not before they probably score a lot more during the drives he doesn't turn the ball over.
 
2014-04-01 08:55:48 PM  
he'll wait to do that after he signs with washington.
 
2014-04-01 08:57:18 PM  
And once again DC goes to snag an overhyped veteran at a position they really didn't need help in for a price that is too damn high. What's it called when someone attempts to do the same thing over and over expecting a different result each time? Oh yeah, it's called insanity.
 
2014-04-01 09:01:44 PM  
Heh, have fun with that hand grenade, Washington.
 
2014-04-01 09:02:43 PM  
I'm not sure if I want this. He is a damn good player but the Skins should not devote 10mill in cap space to a single player when there are other holes that need to be filled (OL, DT, MLB).

And if he is the locker room cancer that everyone sayse he is, then he is not an ideal player for a first year coach.
 
2014-04-01 09:05:23 PM  
which gang is he affiliated with?  Crips? Bloods?
didn't hear the full report

Good luck Skins with that one
Don't touch his dope-that's a stabbin'
 
2014-04-01 09:06:46 PM  

rjakobi: And once again DC goes to snag an overhyped veteran at a position they really didn't need help in for a price that is too damn high. What's it called when someone attempts to do the same thing over and over expecting a different result each time? Oh yeah, it's called insanity.


The Skins needed another WR. Pierre Garcon broke the team record for reception s in a season because Griffin had no one else to throw to.

That said Jackson is overkill and they will be spending more on him than they should
 
2014-04-01 09:18:43 PM  

Killer Cars: Isn't the size of the cap room the Bengals still have equivalent to the GDP of Montenegro? I know DeSean signing there could invoke more "Laughter OL Bungles crime" jokes, but, seriously; him as the #2 receiver to AJ Green is pretty formidable at least on paper, and even Andy Goddamn Dalton would find a way to not throw 4 picks in a playoff game with those two at his disposal.

Well, actually, he might still do that, but not before they probably score a lot more during the drives he doesn't turn the ball over.


No, the Bengals don't need any more receivers for Dalton to underthrow. They've got enough already.
 
2014-04-01 09:21:02 PM  
Well that is good, but if they don't have a line it doesn't matter. I know most football fans don't realize this.
 
2014-04-01 09:25:43 PM  

CipollinaFan: rjakobi: And once again DC goes to snag an overhyped veteran at a position they really didn't need help in for a price that is too damn high. What's it called when someone attempts to do the same thing over and over expecting a different result each time? Oh yeah, it's called insanity.

The Skins needed another WR. Pierre Garcon broke the team record for reception s in a season because Griffin had no one else to throw to.

That said Jackson is overkill and they will be spending more on him than they should


I had pierre in ff, and despite that record he was still my worst receiver.  The amount talking heads slobbered over him without noting that everything was for 3yds was causing me head aches.
 
2014-04-01 09:30:21 PM  
This is awesome.  DJax has 2 opportunities per year to ruin the eagle's season.  RGIII has no excuses now.
 
2014-04-01 09:33:42 PM  
According to the LAPD, he was flashing crip neighborhood hand signals. But it is the LAPD.
 
2014-04-01 09:37:33 PM  

JohnnyBravo: According to the LAPD, he was flashing crip neighborhood hand signals. But it is the LAPD.


Also according to the LAPD he isn't a gang member nor does he have any gang affiliations according to them
 
2014-04-01 09:44:06 PM  
Good, put him on a team where he isn't a threat to win anything. The Raiders or Jets would also have sufficed.
 
2014-04-01 09:50:39 PM  

ongbok: JohnnyBravo: According to the LAPD, he was flashing crip neighborhood hand signals. But it is the LAPD.

Also according to the LAPD he isn't a gang member nor does he have any gang affiliations according to them


Except for the one detective who talked to the paper
 
2014-04-01 09:59:31 PM  

Lost Thought 00: ongbok: JohnnyBravo: According to the LAPD, he was flashing crip neighborhood hand signals. But it is the LAPD.

Also according to the LAPD he isn't a gang member nor does he have any gang affiliations according to them

Except for the one detective who talked to the paper


But the LAPD has officially come out and stated that he doesn't.
 
2014-04-01 10:30:35 PM  

thecpt: CipollinaFan: rjakobi: And once again DC goes to snag an overhyped veteran at a position they really didn't need help in for a price that is too damn high. What's it called when someone attempts to do the same thing over and over expecting a different result each time? Oh yeah, it's called insanity.

The Skins needed another WR. Pierre Garcon broke the team record for reception s in a season because Griffin had no one else to throw to.

That said Jackson is overkill and they will be spending more on him than they should

I had pierre in ff, and despite that record he was still my worst receiver.  The amount talking heads slobbered over him without noting that everything was for 3yds was causing me head aches.


it is a shame that he broke Art Monk's record in receptions and such an empty effort. Not busting on Garcon.
 
2014-04-01 10:49:40 PM  

CipollinaFan: I'm not sure if I want this. He is a damn good player but the Skins should not devote 10mill in cap space to a single player when there are other holes that need to be filled (OL, DT, MLB).

And if he is the locker room cancer that everyone sayse he is, then he is not an ideal player for a first year coach.


Exactly that.
 
2014-04-01 11:19:51 PM  
As a Redskins fan I'm torn on this as well. We definitely need another WR and DeSean is a good receiver. I don't think we should break the bank for him and who knows if he will be a "cancer" or not but....only time will tell if signing him was a good thing or not (If he signs of course).

/also was torn about putting the franchise tag on Orakpo. He's good but way too inconsistent.
 
2014-04-02 12:12:34 AM  
Gee, I haven't seen the "player is suddenly a locker room cancer" thing play out when a team doesn't want to pay someone anymore. Especially not in Philly.

/probably nothing to see as far as that goes
//still expensive though
///would take him in Seattle if he was cool with not making nearly as much money
////which would be kinda stupid of him
 
2014-04-02 12:25:03 AM  
NFL.com says he's signed with the Washington [redacted by the NSA]
 
2014-04-02 12:39:06 AM  

IanMoone: NFL.com says he's signed with the Washington [redacted by the NSA]


And it is going to be a three year deal apparently.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24510758/report-redski ns- desean-jackson-agree-to-terms-on-multi-year-deal

Let's just hope it works out well and that they draft nothing but Offensive Linemen and Middle Linebackers

/I wonder what his number is going to be
//I would rather buy a Cracker Williams jersey.
///I doubt he will still be on the team.
//Obscure #13 Redskin WR Jerseys are the shiat
/I still have my Anthony Armstrong Jersey from the John Beck era
 
2014-04-02 01:14:12 AM  
As a Skins fan I've always hated Jackson. I've also hated big free agent deals influenced by Danny boy.

I feel pretty stupid for being excited, but I am.
 
2014-04-02 01:29:14 AM  

ongbok: Well that is good, but if they don't have a line it doesn't matter. I know most football fans don't realize this.


"Desean" is Spanish for "of Sean". I know most football fans don't realize this.
 
2014-04-02 02:22:54 AM  

smd31: As a Redskins fan


my condolences.
 
2014-04-02 05:23:32 AM  
If it's between the Redskins & Raiders you are not in demand
 
2014-04-02 05:40:09 AM  
I'm getting Haynsworth flashbacks for some reason.
 
2014-04-02 06:30:23 AM  
As an Eagles Season Ticket Holder I'd like to know when I get my digitally-updated copy of "Silver Linings Playbook."
 
2014-04-02 07:13:57 AM  

LessO2: smd31: As a Redskins fan

my condolences.


Thanks.

Well a three year deal... Hmmm... Seems somewhat short which usually means more money. Hopefully not all. :|
 
2014-04-02 08:28:38 AM  

smd31: LessO2: smd31: As a Redskins fan

my condolences.

Thanks.

Well a three year deal... Hmmm... Seems somewhat short which usually means more money. Hopefully not all. :|


He wants another deal at age 30 and no one was going to give him 5 years with lots of guaranteed money.

As an eagles fan, I'm not amused by this.
 
2014-04-02 08:54:55 AM  
Either the Eagles/Kelly are idiots or another shoe is going to drop. The story was that they had to unload him before the gang banger story broke because after that he had no trade value. That clearly wasn't true and they have a lot of defensive needs that could have been addressed if they were set on unloading him.
 
2014-04-02 09:04:23 AM  

Boxcutta: Either the Eagles/Kelly are idiots or another shoe is going to drop. The story was that they had to unload him before the gang banger story broke because after that he had no trade value. That clearly wasn't true and they have a lot of defensive needs that could have been addressed if they were set on unloading him.


I have to think that it is the former. I'm 37 and have followed Philly sports all my life. I have seen way more incompetence than the average sports fan, but I have a hard time possibly believing they are THAT incompetent.  If anything, I think the Eagles have been remarkably competent the last 2 years.
 
2014-04-02 09:07:58 AM  

Boxcutta: Either the Eagles/Kelly are idiots or another shoe is going to drop. The story was that they had to unload him before the gang banger story broke because after that he had no trade value. That clearly wasn't true and they have a lot of defensive needs that could have been addressed if they were set on unloading him.


I don't think he had trade value from the start. Eagles knew that story was coming. Its not the smartest idea to unload a player only to have a story come out days later claiming they're associated with alleged murderers. Unless you divulge to the team you're trading with everything you know (which I have a feeling the Eagles tried to do which is why they couldn't move him for the 4 weeks before the NJ.com story broke). Or else when the story drops you turn into the d-bag that no one wants to trade with.

I think it came down to every other team realizing if they just kept their distance, the Eagles had no choice but to drop him and then each team can go after him for cheaper.

As an Eagles fan, I have no problem getting rid of him. And I have no problem with him staying in the NFC East. When Vick, Jackson, and Shady were the sole faces of an 8-8 team I had a tough time rooting for them   (Shady had just been arrested for beating up his girlfriend at the time)

Viva la FOLES!
 
2014-04-02 09:32:55 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Except for the one detective who talked to the paper


Actually the Detective in the story said he didn't have gang affiliations.

Farkinthewind11: Eagles knew that story was coming.


The Eagles planted that story as cover for releasing him.  Simple as that.

The Eagles resigned Desean well after all of the facts presented in the awful story by NJ.com happened.
 
2014-04-02 09:38:11 AM  
If you're flashing gang signs and you're not a member of that gang, you're an idiot because that can get you killed. So, I am assuming Jackson is a gang member if he's flashing gang signs - or maybe he really is an idiot. Either way, why would you want him on your football team?
 
2014-04-02 09:39:47 AM  

oryx: If you're flashing gang signs and you're not a member of that gang, you're an idiot because that can get you killed. So, I am assuming Jackson is a gang member if he's flashing gang signs - or maybe he really is an idiot. Either way, why would you want him on your football team?


1200+ Yards, 9 TDs, and a QB rating of about 120 when targeted?
 
2014-04-02 09:40:20 AM  

MugzyBrown: The Eagles planted that story as cover for releasing him.  Simple as that.


Cept in the world of the NFL, you don't need a cover for releasing any player. Everyone is fair game.
 
2014-04-02 09:45:13 AM  

Farkinthewind11: Cept in the world of the NFL, you don't need a cover for releasing any player. Everyone is fair game.


You need PR cover when you're releasing a 27 year old pro-bowler
 
2014-04-02 09:56:21 AM  

ongbok: Well that is good, but if they don't have a line it doesn't matter. I know most football fans don't realize this.


cathleenfalsani.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-02 10:02:44 AM  
I thought the same thing in the first episode and I have mixed emotions about it. It is distracting from the overall message of the show, I think. On the other hand, NDT said that this show was designed to be a push back against creationist theories that have permeated our society because we cannot afford to raise a generation of stupid kids that don't understand and/or openly reject science.
 
2014-04-02 10:08:28 AM  

ongbok: Well that is good, but if they don't have a line it doesn't matter. I know most football fans don't realize this.


I don't think the offensive line is their problem. Trent Williams might legitimately be the best LT in football, Polumbus is solid on the other side and they have vets like Liechtensteiger and now that Lauvao guy they just signed. The Redskins' problem is that they have one of the very worst defenses in the NFL.
 
2014-04-02 10:32:48 AM  

Super Chronic: ongbok: Well that is good, but if they don't have a line it doesn't matter. I know most football fans don't realize this.

I don't think the offensive line is their problem. Trent Williams might legitimately be the best LT in football, Polumbus is solid on the other side and they have vets like Liechtensteiger and now that Lauvao guy they just signed. The Redskins' problem is that they have one of the very worst defenses in the NFL.


The O-line couldn't handle an all out blitz at all.  If you remove the really stupid 10 or so special teams plays or game-changing turnovers, the 'skins have a different season.  Things kind of snowballed after the early stupid special teams do-do bird stuff.  ALL the special teams sucked bad.  The D had some issues for sure, especially as the season wore on and the good players got hurt, or banged up and old enough to not be any good and it went downhill fast.  They've upgraded well in my opinion by mostly going for basic, unfamous help, but this is probably a bit of a desperate attempt to practice alchemy.
 
2014-04-02 10:37:55 AM  
I think there's more than just one or two reasons he was released, but I do believe that the biggest was this: Chip and DeSean just didn't see eye-to-eye.  D-Jax is known for taking plays (or sometimes games) off, being late to meetings, not always willing to take responsibility for his actions, only half listening when someone is trying to teach him, etc. Not "active disruption" in a locker room or team setting, but also not exactly an example of dedication. That doesn't mean he's a cancer or whatever (like I've heard so often), but it also can generate some resentment among others. It is telling that no other Eagles player really came to his defense - even during the whole "will they or won't they get rid of him" speculation over the past 3 weeks. (Almost every statement that came out was, at best, a lukewarm admission of his talent followed by a "but, they have to do what they need to for the good of the team".) Heck, even Vick was like "Maybe this will do him good."

Kelly believes his system is flexible enough to adapt to personnel, and WRs in particular can be plug-and-play, because it's designed to spread the ball around. Plus, it's designed more around the RB and the QB than anything else; the Eagles still have Shady, and as long as he doesn't suddenly regress, Foles is more than able to run things. The biggest question now is who they can get in the draft - which also is going affect the focus on defense. (If you have to spend the 1st or 2nd round pick on a WR, then that's one less good defensive player available.)

I'm not sure it's a good *or* bad move, although it definitely was ill-timed (either do it before free agency so the extra money was available, or wait until after you've drafted a replacement) and poorly handled (I think even Bill Belichick would have been embarrassed at the level of public communication). I'm willing to wait and see, but only because the team surprised me so much last year.
 
2014-04-02 11:11:33 AM  
Well, now they have a primadonna WR to go along with the primadonna QB.

Should work well with that 1st year head coach!
 
2014-04-02 11:13:10 AM  
Still scratching my head over how the Eagles couldn't have gotten a trade for him instead of just dumping him on the open market for nothing.
 
2014-04-02 11:28:13 AM  

MartinD-35: Super Chronic: ongbok: Well that is good, but if they don't have a line it doesn't matter. I know most football fans don't realize this.

I don't think the offensive line is their problem. Trent Williams might legitimately be the best LT in football, Polumbus is solid on the other side and they have vets like Liechtensteiger and now that Lauvao guy they just signed. The Redskins' problem is that they have one of the very worst defenses in the NFL.

The O-line couldn't handle an all out blitz at all.  If you remove the really stupid 10 or so special teams plays or game-changing turnovers, the 'skins have a different season.  Things kind of snowballed after the early stupid special teams do-do bird stuff.  ALL the special teams sucked bad.  The D had some issues for sure, especially as the season wore on and the good players got hurt, or banged up and old enough to not be any good and it went downhill fast.  They've upgraded well in my opinion by mostly going for basic, unfamous help, but this is probably a bit of a desperate attempt to practice alchemy.


Yeah, that was the thing that surprised me the most last year.  The O-Line had the same people from a year ago that helped win 7 games in a row and go to the playoffs but that year it seemed like after the 1st or 2nd quarter they had bets on who could get RG3 sacked the most.  The o-line looked downright horrible at times but at other times in the SAME game they were fine.

With the offseason moves to get some "no name" players on both the D and O-line, I have a bit of hope that this year will be different.  We definitely need CB and FS help...some LB depth and O-line depth would be nice too...
 
2014-04-02 11:41:52 AM  

Farkinthewind11: As an Eagles fan, I have no problem getting rid of him. And I have no problem with him staying in the NFC East. When Vick, Jackson, and Shady were the sole faces of an 8-8 team I had a tough time rooting for them (Shady had just been arrested for beating up his girlfriend at the time)

Viva la FOLES!


The Desean stuff has been known for a long time.  The NJ.com story didn't reveal anything new.  Chip Kelly simply didn't like him and they didn't want to continue to pay him that chunk of money.  There's nothing more to it.  All this gang BS is simply the Eagles trying to save face with the fanbase.

I also don't think McCoy has been arrested.  I think you're referring to the "party bus" incident where he threw an escort off the bus and she later filed assault charges.  If memory serves, nothing came from it.  I'm not defending him though, as it's obvious from that and other transgressions, that he also has some issues.

Kelly seems to think Jackson is replaceable.  Maybe he is, but I think the Eagles would have been in a better position keeping him and concentrating on defensive holes.  Now they'll have to spend a draft pick on a receiver.  And plugging a rookie into a spot that last year aided Riley Cooper and Nick Foles' success is kind of a tall order.  Getting Maclin back is nice, but he's coming off a major knee injury.  Most players don't have an Adrian Peterson like return from that.


MugzyBrown: The Eagles planted that story as cover for releasing him. Simple as that.

The Eagles resigned Desean well after all of the facts presented in the awful story by NJ.com happened.


Pretty much this.


cefm: Still scratching my head over how the Eagles couldn't have gotten a trade for him instead of just dumping him on the open market for nothing.


Because the Eagles showed their hand early.  Everyone figured out they didn't want him so why give up something when they could possibly get him after they let him go?
 
2014-04-02 11:45:05 AM  

MugzyBrown: Farkinthewind11: Cept in the world of the NFL, you don't need a cover for releasing any player. Everyone is fair game.

You need PR cover when you're releasing a 27 year old pro-bowler


How well is that working out for the Eagles? They released a two-sentence statement and have been mum since. All I hear on the Fanatic on the drive home is how everyone is more disappointed in the silence rather than the loss of Jackson and that we're going to step backwards into Reid-era stonewalling as far as the release of information goes. So if PR cover was their goal they're failing.
 
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