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(Mother Jones)   So apparently Hobby Lobby's retirement plan invests in contraception manufacturers. Still no birth-control pills for you, though, you wanton hussy   (motherjones.com) divider line 157
    More: Interesting, Hobby Lobby, manufacturing, AstraZeneca, Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, Humana, contraceptives, hypocrisy, Forest Laboratories  
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2014-04-01 12:17:15 PM  
thanks, Taft!
 
2014-04-01 12:23:42 PM  
Invest in contraception, make money from workers in a society where contraception was mandated by the government... it's almost like this belief of theirs really isn't that strong.
 
2014-04-01 12:26:56 PM  
i1.ytimg.com

"It's a profit deal!"
 
2014-04-01 12:29:59 PM  
Nice use of wanton hussy, subby.
 
2014-04-01 12:35:20 PM  
Didn't RTFA but does HL pay into the retirement plan or is it employee only?
 
2014-04-01 12:47:53 PM  
So, you're willing to make money off of something that you see as sinful, but god help if your workers want to use it. In the words of Jesus, "Shame on you, you foul hypocrites, who outwardly project piety but inwardly are full of sin."
 
2014-04-01 12:51:20 PM  

enry: Didn't RTFA but does HL pay into the retirement plan or is it employee only?

"Hobby Lobby 401(k) employee retirement plan held more than $73 million in mutual funds with investments in companies that produce emergency contraceptive pills, intrauterine devices, and drugs commonly used in abortions. Hobby Lobby makes large matching contributions to this company-sponsored 401(k).

In 2012, Hobby Lobby contributed $3.8 million to its employee savings plans, which had 13,400 employee participants at the beginning of that year. "


So they pick the plan and both the company and the employee invest as part of a retirement offering from the company.  Assholes did research to find out if their employees would be on the pill, but didn't do research on mutual funds.
 
2014-04-01 12:57:23 PM  
In a brief filed with the Supreme Court, the Greens object to covering Plan B, Ella, and IUDs because they claim that these products can prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a woman's uterus-a process the Greens consider abortion.

scienceblogs.com
 
2014-04-01 01:08:55 PM  

netizencain: enry: Didn't RTFA but does HL pay into the retirement plan or is it employee only?

"Hobby Lobby 401(k) employee retirement plan held more than $73 million in mutual funds with investments in companies that produce emergency contraceptive pills, intrauterine devices, and drugs commonly used in abortions. Hobby Lobby makes large matching contributions to this company-sponsored 401(k).

In 2012, Hobby Lobby contributed $3.8 million to its employee savings plans, which had 13,400 employee participants at the beginning of that year. "

So they pick the plan and both the company and the employee invest as part of a retirement offering from the company.  Assholes did research to find out if their employees would be on the pill, but didn't do research on mutual funds.


See, paying for the pill would cost them "money" but getting a return on the companies that make and sell the pill to wanton hussies at full price is just profit.
 
2014-04-01 02:46:10 PM  
So basically their argument is based on their desire to pick and choose between the tenets of their closely held religions: Cash and Christ.
 
2014-04-01 02:47:46 PM  
Man, Holder really farked up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.
 
2014-04-01 02:57:31 PM  

Serious Black: Man, Holder really farked up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.


I don't understand that decision at all. It has the potential to create some really, frighteningly bad law.

"I don't believe in the efficacy of any medical treatment that doesn't involve using leeches to remove bad humors! Modern medicine is an affront to my sincere religious beliefs!"
 
2014-04-01 03:06:30 PM  

gilgigamesh: Serious Black: Man, Holer really farke up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.

I on't unerstan that ecision at all. It has the potential to create some really, frighteningly ba law.

"I on't believe in the efficacy of any meical treatment that oesn't involve using leeches to remove ba humors! Moern meicine is an affront to my sincere religious beliefs!"


They on't give a rat's ass about what a meical treatment actually oes. Their real fear is paying for shiat that others will be able to use even though they won't get to use it. In short, they on't like the iea of insurance in the first place.
 
2014-04-01 03:15:15 PM  

Serious Black: gilgigamesh: Serious Black: Man, Holer really farke up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.

I on't unerstan that ecision at all. It has the potential to create some really, frighteningly ba law.

"I on't believe in the efficacy of any meical treatment that oesn't involve using leeches to remove ba humors! Moern meicine is an affront to my sincere religious beliefs!"

They on't give a rat's ass about what a meical treatment actually oes. Their real fear is paying for shiat that others will be able to use even though they won't get to use it. In short, they on't like the iea of insurance in the first place.


I think you need new batteries in your wireless keyboard.
 
2014-04-01 03:17:48 PM  

Serious Black: gilgigamesh: Serious Black: Man, Holer really farke up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.

I on't unerstan that ecision at all. It has the potential to create some really, frighteningly ba law.

"I on't believe in the efficacy of any meical treatment that oesn't involve using leeches to remove ba humors! Moern meicine is an affront to my sincere religious beliefs!"

They on't give a rat's ass about what a meical treatment actually oes. Their real fear is paying for shiat that others will be able to use even though they won't get to use it. In short, they on't like the iea of insurance in the first place.


Um...why are all the D's missing in your post?

/serious question
//humored
 
2014-04-01 03:18:28 PM  

Diogenes: I think you need new batteries in your wireless keyboard.


The thing is, the text he quoted is missing all the D's as well. That's odd.
 
2014-04-01 03:22:11 PM  

SurfaceTension: Serious Black: gilgigamesh: Serious Black: Man, Holer really farke up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.

I on't unerstan that ecision at all. It has the potential to create some really, frighteningly ba law.

"I on't believe in the efficacy of any meical treatment that oesn't involve using leeches to remove ba humors! Moern meicine is an affront to my sincere religious beliefs!"

They on't give a rat's ass about what a meical treatment actually oes. Their real fear is paying for shiat that others will be able to use even though they won't get to use it. In short, they on't like the iea of insurance in the first place.

Um...why are all the D's missing in your post?

/serious question
//humored


It's a post-op post.

/Fark's April Fools wombats are on overdrive
 
2014-04-01 03:23:24 PM  

scottydoesntknow: SurfaceTension: Serious Black: gilgigamesh: Serious Black: Man, Holer really farke up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.

I on't unerstan that ecision at all. It has the potential to create some really, frighteningly ba law.

"I on't believe in the efficacy of any meical treatment that oesn't involve using leeches to remove ba humors! Moern meicine is an affront to my sincere religious beliefs!"

They on't give a rat's ass about what a meical treatment actually oes. Their real fear is paying for shiat that others will be able to use even though they won't get to use it. In short, they on't like the iea of insurance in the first place.

Um...why are all the D's missing in your post?

/serious question
//humored

It's a post-op post.

/Fark's April Fools wombats are on overdrive


And by 'wombats' I mean a philter

And in picture form, just in case

hadoopi.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-01 03:25:51 PM  

Diogenes: Serious Black: gilgigamesh: Serious Black: Man, Holer really farke up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.

I on't unerstan that ecision at all. It has the potential to create some really, frighteningly ba law.

"I on't believe in the efficacy of any meical treatment that oesn't involve using leeches to remove ba humors! Moern meicine is an affront to my sincere religious beliefs!"

They on't give a rat's ass about what a meical treatment actually oes. Their real fear is paying for shiat that others will be able to use even though they won't get to use it. In short, they on't like the iea of insurance in the first place.

I think you need new batteries in your wireless keyboard.


SurfaceTension: Serious Black: gilgigamesh: Serious Black: Man, Holer really farke up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.

I on't unerstan that ecision at all. It has the potential to create some really, frighteningly ba law.

"I on't believe in the efficacy of any meical treatment that oesn't involve using leeches to remove ba humors! Moern meicine is an affront to my sincere religious beliefs!"

They on't give a rat's ass about what a meical treatment actually oes. Their real fear is paying for shiat that others will be able to use even though they won't get to use it. In short, they on't like the iea of insurance in the first place.

Um...why are all the D's missing in your post?

/serious question
//humored


My girlfriend doesn't have D cups so I needed to take them from that post and give them to her to compensate?

/I really have no idea
 
2014-04-01 03:31:18 PM  

scottydoesntknow: It's a post-op post.

/Fark's April Fools wombats are on overdrive


I keep forgetting that nonsense is going on.
 
2014-04-01 04:05:16 PM  
I think it's dumb to smoke weed but I'm invested in it.
 
2014-04-01 04:07:58 PM  
So you're saying I shouldn't have used their airplane glue to "fix" my wife's fallopian tubes?

/Michael's instead?
 
2014-04-01 04:08:08 PM  

Blues_X: Invest in contraception, make money from workers in a society where contraception was mandated by the government... it's almost like this belief of theirs really isn't that strong.


Sounds almost like a thing that the FTC should take a long hard look at.
 
2014-04-01 04:11:12 PM  
Contraception manufacturer? Why would Hobby Lobby invest in subby's face?
 
2014-04-01 04:11:39 PM  

naughtyrev: Nice use of wanton hussy, subby.


^^^^^^^
Wanton, libidinous trollop would work as well.
 
2014-04-01 04:15:24 PM  

doyner: So basically their argument is based on their desire to pick and choose between the tenets of their closely held religions: Cash and Christ.


Wants a word.

banditblog.com
 
2014-04-01 04:17:42 PM  
So that whole "we dont want to be complicit in paying for abortion causing drugs (that actually dont cause abortion even by their goalpost moving definition ) not only doesnt apply to the 13 million Chinese who abort annually paid for in part by Hobby Lobby money that goes to the Chinese government , they are also cool with profiting from investments in drugs that actually cause abortions. Gee I'm shocked that farking fundy iceholes are hypocritess

  Luke 16:13  "No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."

 Guess that's settled now, not that there was really any question

/let's make out Hobby Lobby
 
2014-04-01 04:28:05 PM  
I swear I thought this was an April Fool's joke. I guess not.
 
2014-04-01 04:30:21 PM  

Serious Black: Man, Holder really farked up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.


Unfortunately, that's not in the set of things decided by the supreme court.  "Oh, regular court and appeals both failed to acknowledge the evidence in the case, in an example of clear bias?  fark off, not in the constitution, not our problem"
 
2014-04-01 04:31:55 PM  
Not that facts have ever stopped Fark from indulging in righteous indignation, but it's probably been noted countless times that Hobby Lobby isn't fighting against providing coverage for ALL contraceptives, just some (not including 'the pill').
 
2014-04-01 04:32:17 PM  
Sad really, especially for those of us whose hobby is scrapbooking used condoms.
 
2014-04-01 04:38:38 PM  
Here's my question for the owners of Hobby Lobby:

Would you be OK with a Christian being denied bacon for breakfast during his/her hospital stay if the Jewish employer said so?

I haven't followed this story very closely but from what I can understand they don't want to pay for birth control through the health insurance because it's against their beliefs right? Then could a Jewish employer deny it's employees bacon during hospital stays that the insurance is paying for?
 
2014-04-01 04:41:08 PM  
Hey subtard, Hobby Lobby supports 16 of the 20 requested contraceptive devices. Why do liberals have to be so Damn ignorant of actual facts.
 
2014-04-01 04:41:10 PM  
Hobby Lobby is only asking to block abortions and the plan B pill from their health care plan They're okay with the other 18 FDA approved contraception.
 
2014-04-01 04:41:39 PM  
Hobby Lobby, 100% religious 28% of the time.

members of the Good Book Cherry Pickers Employees Union.
 
2014-04-01 04:42:57 PM  

scottydoesntknow: In a brief filed with the Supreme Court, the Greens object to covering Plan B, Ella, and IUDs because they claim that these products can prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a woman's uterus-a process the Greens consider abortion.


Umm.. even the FDA says that is a possibility. You are confusing your arguments. HL is stupid for claiming it causes abortions is the liberal talking point. Those means do stop implantation. So... does it actually burn?
 
2014-04-01 04:47:46 PM  

Blues_X: Invest in contraception, make money from workers in a society where contraception was mandated by the government... it's almost like this belief of theirs really isn't that strong.


It's as if they're just doing this to be cheap and/or dickish to people who don't share their asinine beliefs.
 
2014-04-01 04:53:03 PM  
Stop it Fark libs, you're being ignorant!  Leave Hobby Lobby alone!!!1!
 
2014-04-01 04:56:18 PM  

Diogenes: Serious Black: gilgigamesh: Serious Black: Man, Holer really farke up by failing to question the sincerity of Hobby Lobby's beliefs.

I on't unerstan that ecision at all. It has the potential to create some really, frighteningly ba law.

"I on't believe in the efficacy of any meical treatment that oesn't involve using leeches to remove ba humors! Moern meicine is an affront to my sincere religious beliefs!"

They on't give a rat's ass about what a meical treatment actually oes. Their real fear is paying for shiat that others will be able to use even though they won't get to use it. In short, they on't like the iea of insurance in the first place.

I think you need new batteries in your wireless keyboard.


Could be a case of the wombats... That would actually be a funny one, remove all of a single letter from random posts. banmonkeys, pass this idea to our Heineken-swilling overlord, and make sure to send the revenue my way!! :-)
 
2014-04-01 04:57:19 PM  

GoldSpider: Not that facts have ever stopped Fark from indulging in righteous indignation, but it's probably been noted countless times that Hobby Lobby isn't fighting against providing coverage for ALL contraceptives, just some (not including 'the pill').


Your point in no way undercuts the hypocrisy pointed out by the article.
 
2014-04-01 04:57:33 PM  

borg: Hobby Lobby is only asking to block abortions and the plan B pill from their health care plan They're okay with the other 18 FDA approved contraception.


And their chosen investment vehicle develops, produces, sells, promotes, and otherwise makes available for use these abortion pills.

So it's fine when it makes them money, but not when it costs them money (which, even if their paid insurance DID provide it to subscribers, it wouldn't cost them any extra). Yeah, real deeply-held belief there.
 
2014-04-01 04:58:16 PM  

borg: Hobby Lobby is only asking to block

abortions IUD's and the plan B pill from their health care plan They're okay with the other 18 FDA approved contraception.

FTFY

And they're also fine investing in those contraceptive ideas.
 
2014-04-01 04:59:48 PM  

Dr Dreidel: So it's fine when it makes them money, but not when it costs them money (which, even if their paid insurance DID provide it to subscribers, it wouldn't cost them any extra). Yeah, real deeply-held belief there.


Prosperity Gospel. Jesus wants you to get rich by any means necessary.
 
2014-04-01 05:00:10 PM  

borg: Hobby Lobby is only asking to block abortions and the plan B pill from their health care plan They're okay with the other 18 FDA approved contraception.


For now.  How do we know they won't decide that future medications and treatments don't also violate their putative beliefs?
 
2014-04-01 05:00:32 PM  

someonelse: GoldSpider: Not that facts have ever stopped Fark from indulging in righteous indignation, but it's probably been noted countless times that Hobby Lobby isn't fighting against providing coverage for ALL contraceptives, just some (not including 'the pill').

Your point in no way undercuts the hypocrisy pointed out by the article.


Nor was it an attempt to. Just saying Hobby Lobby is wrong enough that we don't have to lie to make the point.
 
2014-04-01 05:01:10 PM  

GoldSpider: Not that facts have ever stopped Fark from indulging in righteous indignation, but it's probably been noted countless times that Hobby Lobby isn't fighting against providing coverage for ALL contraceptives, just some (not including 'the pill').


FACTS?!?! You do not belong here! Facts are not wanted or acknowledged here!
 
2014-04-01 05:01:36 PM  
I love this part:
To avoid supporting companies that manufacture abortion drugs-or products such as alcohol or pornography-religious investors can turn to a cottage industry of mutual funds that screen out stocks that religious people might consider morally objectionable. The Timothy Plan and the Ave Maria Fund, for example, screen for companies that manufacture abortion drugs, support Planned Parenthood, or engage in embryonic stem cell research. Dan Hardt, a Kentucky financial planner who specializes in faith-based investing, says the performances of these funds are about the same as if they had not been screened. But Hobby Lobby's managers either were not aware of these options or chose not to invest in them.

They just care so very much about this issue.
 
2014-04-01 05:02:04 PM  

MyRandomName: scottydoesntknow: In a brief filed with the Supreme Court, the Greens object to covering Plan B, Ella, and IUDs because they claim that these products can prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a woman's uterus-a process the Greens consider abortion.

Umm.. even the FDA says that is a possibility. You are confusing your arguments. HL is stupid for claiming it causes abortions is the liberal talking point. Those means do stop implantation. So... does it actually burn?


The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, a group of people who have figuratively devoted their lives to studying the female reproductive system and spend their days examining vaginas and uteruses, has the following to say about the use of emergency contracpetion: Emergency contraception will not disrupt an established pregnancy. It is not an abortifacient. Period.
 
2014-04-01 05:02:43 PM  

GoldSpider: Not that facts have ever stopped Fark from indulging in righteous indignation, but it's probably been noted countless times that Hobby Lobby isn't fighting against providing coverage for ALL contraceptives, just some (not including 'the pill').


MyRandomName: Hey subtard, Hobby Lobby supports 16 of the 20 requested contraceptive devices. Why do liberals have to be so Damn ignorant of actual facts.


Yes, but THESE are among the things they claim to be against(But apparently NOT against paying for):

These companies include Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, which makes Plan B and ParaGard, a copper IUD, and Actavis, which makes a generic version of Plan B and distributes Ella. Other holdings in the mutual funds selected by Hobby Lobby include Pfizer, the maker of Cytotec and Prostin E2, which are used to induce abortions; Bayer, which manufactures the hormonal IUDs Skyla and Mirena; AstraZeneca, which has an Indian subsidiary that manufactures Prostodin, Cerviprime, and Partocin, three drugs commonly used in abortions; and Forest Laboratories, which makes Cervidil, a drug used to induce abortions. Several funds in the Hobby Lobby retirement plan also invested in Aetna and Humana, two health insurance companies that cover surgical abortions, abortion drugs, and emergency contraception in many of the health care policies they sell.
 
2014-04-01 05:03:10 PM  

ferretman: GoldSpider: Not that facts have ever stopped Fark from indulging in righteous indignation, but it's probably been noted countless times that Hobby Lobby isn't fighting against providing coverage for ALL contraceptives, just some (not including 'the pill').

FACTS?!?! You do not belong here! Facts are not wanted or acknowledged here!


Did you think that the indignation was based solely on a misunderstanding of HL's stance?
 
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