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(Yahoo)   You know you are getting old when the crap you have in boxes at the back of your basement suddenly becomes "historically significant": Internet Archive preserves woman's collection of 40,000 VHS and Betamax tapes of recorded TV   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 42
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2014-04-01 02:51:52 PM  
All jokes aside, that's a pretty amazing record of broadcast footage. You never know what could be found mining that resource. I'm glad someone's preserving it.
 
2014-04-01 02:52:36 PM  

theorellior: All jokes aside, that's a pretty amazing record of broadcast footage. You never know what could be found mining that resource. I'm glad someone's preserving it.


This.
 
2014-04-01 02:59:11 PM  
i had at one time probably 50-75 vhs tapes of stuff taped off of old channel master satellite tv.  my favorites were the hours and hours of early MTV.

miss those tapes.
 
2014-04-01 03:00:55 PM  
She was 83? That's a metric assload of The Price is Right.
 
2014-04-01 03:03:43 PM  
Wow!  And I thought my collection of 1,300 VHS cassettes of self-recorded home TV was impressive.  Wonder if anyone would be interested in mine?

Started back in '78, when home VCRs were just hitting the market.  No video stores, no Blockbuster, no Internet to speak of.

We all started scrounging whatever we could find, and it was common to get about forty of your closest friends together for a weekend, with VCRs, extension cords and power strips, and RCA cables everywhere for a mammoth 'Tape Swap Party'.  Scoring some major trade bait was a real accomplishment.

I managed to latch onto a complete copy of 'The Prisoner', PBS's 'The Lathe of Heaven', and complete first and second season of Star Blazers, with all the commercials edited out, not to mention a galaxy of others, too numerous to mention.  I rode those for a while, and leveraged them into some other major acquisitions as well.

Back then, HBO used to run 'Intermission Specials', short, odd little films like 'The Concert', by Claude and Julian Chagrin, or Mike Jittlov's original 3-minute 'Wizard of Speed and Time'.  Getting a good copy of *anything* Jittlov was a huge score.

Somehow, setting up a home media server with a RAID-5 of 3 TB hard drives to store all my ripped DVDs and pipe them anywhere in the house just doesn't provide the heady excitement of those pioneering days...
 
2014-04-01 03:04:32 PM  
I'm anti-hoarding (due to growing up in a nearly-A&E-level house), but damned if I don't sometimes love me a few early-80s commercial breaks on Youtube, so I'm glad someone's hoarding it I guess.
 
2014-04-01 03:18:57 PM  
When I first got a VCR, I taped movies like it was going out of style. "I won't need cable at all when I have a library of great movies to choose from! It'll be great!!!"

That lasted about 3 or 4 weeks. Then I realized, no one wants to watch The Magnificent Ambersons or Heaven Can Wait with commercials the first time, much less over again.
 
2014-04-01 03:30:04 PM  
I know this is old news but it isn't 10 year old news in keeping with the Foolish day. Stop playing with my emotions.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-01 03:35:51 PM  
I had about 100 VHS tapes that I couldn't give away a free years ago.  I called goodwills, women shelters, homeless shelters, hospitals, children's hospitals.... no one wanted VHS tapes.

I finally found someone on FreeCycle to take them

/So, I guess I COULD give them away, but it took a while
//I hav 100 more than I can't even give away so I'm not sure what to do with them
 
2014-04-01 03:37:35 PM  

ReverendJynxed: I know this is old news but it isn't 10 year old news in keeping with the Foolish day. Stop playing with my emotions.


the woman passed away in 2012, but, the story is a day old, not ten years.

or is your comment more to do that she has been mas recording the news since 1978? and in that case wouldnt it be the 38 year old news that is so exciting?

also.. lung cancer... ugh... all those tapes are gonna be all yellow and sticky and ciggerette smelly
 
2014-04-01 03:38:50 PM  

buntz: I had about 100 VHS tapes that I couldn't give away a free years ago.  I called goodwills, women shelters, homeless shelters, hospitals, children's hospitals.... no one wanted VHS tapes.

I finally found someone on FreeCycle to take them

/So, I guess I COULD give them away, but it took a while
//I hav 100 more than I can't even give away so I'm not sure what to do with them


put them in a box and mail them to the internet archive.
 
2014-04-01 03:39:30 PM  
Be nice if some of those missing old Doctor Who episodes were on there.
 
2014-04-01 03:42:10 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: When I first got a VCR, I taped movies like it was going out of style. "I won't need cable at all when I have a library of great movies to choose from! It'll be great!!!"

That lasted about 3 or 4 weeks. Then I realized, no one wants to watch The Magnificent Ambersons or Heaven Can Wait with commercials the first time, much less over again.


Our first betamax got quite a workout during the 1984 Olympics because I think we were sure we were preserving a historic moment for all posterity,   We did watch some of the Ice dancing and figure skating routines a few times but that was more or less it.   But back when being out on a particular night meant you missed what was on TV that night, period, getting someone to tape your favorite shows (I vaguely recall Buck Rodgers was on back then ) was a really big deal

The actual big deal that a VCR was used for was the day my dad called from work and asked m to tape the news footage of the Challenger disaster.    He came home and started watching the tapes in Frame-by-frame mode, got a little pale and started making phone calls to people at work and old contacts at NASA. At the time he was a reliability engineer working on Tomahawk missiles which also used a Thikol  SRB and his team had already identified the O-ring temperature problem for the Tomahawk version
 
2014-04-01 03:44:09 PM  
What the whipper-snappers may not realize is that tapes were north of $10 a piece in bulk for much of that time (north of $20 in today's terms). Still close to $3/each when they stopped being common. Throw in some investment gain (or 'not being in debt' gains), and we're talking a several-million-dollar nest egg in today's money.

I'm glad we'll have her library of recording, and I'm glad she spent it how she wanted, but now I'm curious how the heck she got the bankroll to do it...
 
2014-04-01 03:44:49 PM  
10 years ago some of the college kids at the radio station I was at were scavaging 8-track players and cartridges. They went nuts when I brought them the boxes with 100 or so tapes from deep in my closets. Had forgotten they were there and suddenly they all had value again.

DVDA/s
 
2014-04-01 03:48:22 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: put them in a box and mail them to the internet archive.


not THESE videos
 
2014-04-01 03:50:20 PM  
I call it my "Band of Brothers" conundrum.

I can't remember how many times I had watched the series on cable and DVD but the last time during the shelling in the forest, I just said "good-bye guys" and haven't watched it since. I'll watch it again sometime but it's been a while.

For many reasons, any recorded video has the same problem for me.

/I wish I could find my broadcast copy of Ceasar's Writers--11 or so of his writers (Brooks, Reiner, Sid himself, Mel Tolkin, Neil Simon and his brother,...)all on stage talking about writing for Sid. At $30 it's probably not worth buying on dvd.
 
2014-04-01 03:51:44 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: ReverendJynxed: I know this is old news but it isn't 10 year old news in keeping with the Foolish day. Stop playing with my emotions.

the woman passed away in 2012, but, the story is a day old, not ten years.

or is your comment more to do that she has been mas recording the news since 1978? and in that case wouldnt it be the 38 year old news that is so exciting?

also.. lung cancer... ugh... all those tapes are gonna be all yellow and sticky and ciggerette smelly


Yes she passed in 2012. We knew about these tapes before yesterday.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/us/pennsylvania-tv-news-archive/
 
2014-04-01 03:51:59 PM  

lindalouwho: 10 years ago some of the college kids at the radio station I was at were scavaging 8-track players and cartridges. They went nuts when I brought them the boxes with 100 or so tapes from deep in my closets. Had forgotten they were there and suddenly they all had value again.

DVDA/s


Is the filter doing that, or the silly banmonkeys? :-)
 
2014-04-01 03:52:33 PM  

Lawncair: Wat te wipper-snappers may not realize is tat tapes were nort of $10 a piece in bulk for muc of tat time (nort of $20 in today's terms). Still close to $3/eac wen tey stopped being common. Trow in some investment gain (or 'not being in debt' gains), and we're talking a several-million-dollar nest egg in today's money.

I'm glad we'll ave er library of recording, and I'm glad se spent it ow se wanted, but now I'm curious ow te eck se got te bankroll to do it...


Costco made a killing in VHS tapes and film.
 
2014-04-01 03:58:05 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Somehow, setting up a home media server with a RAID-5 of 3 TB hard drives to store all my ripped DVDs and pipe them anywhere in the house just doesn't provide the heady excitement of those pioneering days...


Try adding a Plex Media Server to the mix. With a teensy bit of firewall configuration and a one-time $5 per mobile platform, you can have all of your media anyplace you can get on the internet, and you can share it with other Plex users.

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: everywhere for a mammoth 'Tape Swap Party'. Scoring some major trade bait was a real accomplishment.


There are still at least a couple communities of media traders who work in copied recordings. I have an acquaintance who has probably 30 years worth of Seasame Street, for example. I think those people are insane, but if they still want to deal with physical media, more power to them.
 
2014-04-01 04:05:14 PM  
glitterrock.org
 
2014-04-01 04:21:58 PM  
Tellingthem: Be nice if some of those missing old Doctor Who episodes were on there.

Heh.  For a while, in the '90's / '00's, WMPT (PBS station in Maryland) was running Classic Who.  I got copies (multiple copies, for most of them) of everything that was available, Hartnell through McCoy.

Granted, not *lost* episodes, but still...

/Also got the Paul McGann pilot.
 
2014-04-01 04:22:04 PM  
My dad is like this.  Years ago he above 1,000 vhs tapes.  I forget the exact number.  Some tapes had entire series on them that he enjoyed as kid or missed out ever getting to see.  Others had two to four movies on each tape.  He recorded everything.  He's since then upgraded to a dvd/vhs combo recorder so he could transfer everything over to dvds.  Still recording to this day.  Probably recording something right now too.
 
2014-04-01 04:29:18 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Lawncair: Wat te wipper-snappers may not realize is tat tapes were nort of $10 a piece in bulk for muc of tat time (nort of $20 in today's terms). Still close to $3/eac wen tey stopped being common. Trow in some investment gain (or 'not being in debt' gains), and we're talking a several-million-dollar nest egg in today's money.

I'm glad we'll ave er library of recording, and I'm glad se spent it ow se wanted, but now I'm curious ow te eck se got te bankroll to do it...

Costco made a killing in VHS tapes and film.


Was at a Costco just the other day getting some picture printed and I noted all the pens in the department had old 35 MM film cartridges stuck to the top (to discourage them spontaneously walking I suppose) and I commented to the cleark that it had been a while since I saw one of those and asked him how often he got calls to develop 35 mm film these days.  He sad flatly "Oh we can't do any sort of film anymore, we haven't had those machines in years"

/my lawn
.off it
 
2014-04-01 04:32:19 PM  
So everything will be recorded on VHS in EP mode? That will be great quality. [/sarcasm]
 
2014-04-01 05:00:45 PM  

buntz: I had about 100 VHS tapes that I couldn't give away a free years ago.  I called goodwills, women shelters, homeless shelters, hospitals, children's hospitals.... no one wanted VHS tapes.

I finally found someone on FreeCycle to take them

/So, I guess I COULD give them away, but it took a while
//I hav 100 more than I can't even give away so I'm not sure what to do with them


Check with any local state-run drug rehabs. I swear to god the ones I've been in all had VHS/DVD players.
 
2014-04-01 05:09:34 PM  
I knew a guy who had a ton of porn on VHS. If someone had told me he was buying every new porn tape that his video store got every week I could believe it.

I'm sure he's dead now, it's been DECADES, but I sometimes wonder if he's looking down from porn heaven at what the kids have access to now online and smiling in his creepy way.
 
2014-04-01 05:39:38 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Back then, HBO used to run 'Intermission Specials', short, odd little films like 'The Concert', by Claude and Julian Chagrin, or Mike Jittlov's original 3-minute 'Wizard of Speed and Time'.  Getting a good copy of *anything* Jittlov was a huge score.



You reminded me of "The Chalice" and sent me off looking for it. Didn't find it, but I did find this site. I haven't had the nerve to click on any of them because the site seems vaguely sketchy, but someone braver than me might find something good in there.
 
2014-04-01 07:10:25 PM  
does she know that VHS tapes eventually fade and she'll be left with nothing?
 
2014-04-01 07:24:02 PM  

Uzzah: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Back then, HBO used to run 'Intermission Specials', short, odd little films like 'The Concert', by Claude and Julian Chagrin, or Mike Jittlov's original 3-minute 'Wizard of Speed and Time'.  Getting a good copy of *anything* Jittlov was a huge score.


You reminded me of "The Chalice" and sent me off looking for it. Didn't find it, but I did find this site. I haven't had the nerve to click on any of them because the site seems vaguely sketchy, but someone braver than me might find something good in there.


'The Chalice'?

As in 'Old family tradition, you must always drink from *this* side of the Chalice, never *that* side'?

Yeah, got it. Tape 21, entry 7.
 
2014-04-01 07:37:31 PM  

davynelson: does she know that VHS tapes eventually fade and she'll be left with nothing?


Being dead, she's already left with nothing (apologies if that's what you were getting at), but the tapes probably did better than she did.  I certainly was able to play some 25 year old tapes to semi-adequate quality recently.  Helps if you have a VHS player that doesn't constantly try auto-re-tracking if the sync signal is weak... an older or pro-grade player with a manual tracking dial would be preferable.
 
2014-04-01 08:15:45 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: 'The Chalice'?

As in 'Old family tradition, you must always drink from *this* side of the Chalice, never *that* side'?


That's the one. Pretty good production values for a gag that was probably too juvenile for even "The Electric Company."
 
2014-04-01 08:24:53 PM  

Uzzah: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: 'The Chalice'?

As in 'Old family tradition, you must always drink from *this* side of the Chalice, never *that* side'?

That's the one. Pretty good production values for a gag that was probably too juvenile for even "The Electric Company."


Yep. That was a gorgeous Manor house in the establishing shot.

YouTube has something called 'The Chalis'. Might be the same gag, definitely not the same film.

Tried searching for "Short Film 'The Chalice'". Found links to the short films HBO ran, haven't had time to check those links yet.

I should check my copy. If it's still good, I could digitize it and upload it. Anyone know how people get around copyright when uploading old films to YouTube?
 
2014-04-01 08:36:09 PM  
I loved TV growing up and had many tapes of shows.  I think the only things of value I got are a doc on the liberation of Paris by I think ABC on a short lived show called Turning Points  (never released on DVD, that I know of), Inside Hollywood - a BBC documentary about the ins and outs of the industry that I just loved as a kid (and haven't been able to find since) and a lot of stand-up comedy.

I can still remember a lot of those comedy routines.  Rick Rockwell and his Medic Alert bit, Larry Miller's 12 stages of drunkeness, Greg Proops talking about Pixie Sticks, Rick Crom, Rick Overton - who I think had the 'alter the English language so words mean what you'd think they mean' bit - the Private Detective guy... even the guy who ran dental floss into his nose and out his mouth.

I even got a lot of use out of the VCR Plus, back when that was a thing.

/at UCLA for TV writing now, so it all worked out
//still would love to rewatch 'Funny for Money' ep of Inside Hollywood
 
2014-04-01 10:43:45 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Uzzah: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: 'The Chalice'?

As in 'Old family tradition, you must always drink from *this* side of the Chalice, never *that* side'?

That's the one. Pretty good production values for a gag that was probably too juvenile for even "The Electric Company."

Yep. That was a gorgeous Manor house in the establishing shot.

YouTube has something called 'The Chalis'. Might be the same gag, definitely not the same film.

Tried searching for "Short Film 'The Chalice'". Found links to the short films HBO ran, haven't had time to check those links yet.

I should check my copy. If it's still good, I could digitize it and upload it. Anyone know how people get around copyright when uploading old films to YouTube?


Flip the video to the mirror image in a few scenes with no writing. That way the video file is not absolutly identical to the master video file that youTube's computer compares it to.

/warning:they may have fixed that.

Also, don't do it with a google account your phone is on. They can delete your account for circumventing copyright. You might try a burner account if you're uploading a lot.
 
2014-04-01 10:59:54 PM  

Sim Tree: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Uzzah: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: 'The Chalice'?

As in 'Old family tradition, you must always drink from *this* side of the Chalice, never *that* side'?

That's the one. Pretty good production values for a gag that was probably too juvenile for even "The Electric Company."

Yep. That was a gorgeous Manor house in the establishing shot.

YouTube has something called 'The Chalis'. Might be the same gag, definitely not the same film.

Tried searching for "Short Film 'The Chalice'". Found links to the short films HBO ran, haven't had time to check those links yet.

I should check my copy. If it's still good, I could digitize it and upload it. Anyone know how people get around copyright when uploading old films to YouTube?

Flip the video to the mirror image in a few scenes with no writing. That way the video file is not absolutly identical to the master video file that youTube's computer compares it to.

/warning:they may have fixed that.

Also, don't do it with a google account your phone is on. They can delete your account for circumventing copyright. You might try a burner account if you're uploading a lot.


Thanks. Not planning to try and cheat anyone. It's that I seem to be able to find a lot of old movies I like, intact, up on YouTube. Like, 'The Pirate Movie'.

I can't believe they're *all* public domain, and I'm curious as to what they're doing.
 
2014-04-01 11:04:52 PM  

Sim Tree: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Uzzah: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: 'The Chalice'?

As in 'Old family tradition, you must always drink from *this* side of the Chalice, never *that* side'?

That's the one. Pretty good production values for a gag that was probably too juvenile for even "The Electric Company."

Yep. That was a gorgeous Manor house in the establishing shot.

YouTube has something called 'The Chalis'. Might be the same gag, definitely not the same film.

Tried searching for "Short Film 'The Chalice'". Found links to the short films HBO ran, haven't had time to check those links yet.

I should check my copy. If it's still good, I could digitize it and upload it. Anyone know how people get around copyright when uploading old films to YouTube?

Flip the video to the mirror image in a few scenes with no writing. That way the video file is not absolutly identical to the master video file that youTube's computer compares it to.

/warning:they may have fixed that.

Also, don't do it with a google account your phone is on. They can delete your account for circumventing copyright. You might try a burner account if you're uploading a lot.


P.S. - Only uploaded one video prior. Look for "Science Fiction Double Feature - a Tribute", by Janos Bartok.

I did the old Rocky Horror bit, using clips from all the old cheesy movies.

Been there a few years, don't think there's been any copyright troubles with that one.
 
2014-04-01 11:34:22 PM  
40,000 tapes?
Dafuq did she record, everything?
 
2014-04-02 03:00:11 AM  

ReverendJynxed: Cerebral Knievel: ReverendJynxed: I know this is old news but it isn't 10 year old news in keeping with the Foolish day. Stop playing with my emotions.

the woman passed away in 2012, but, the story is a day old, not ten years.

or is your comment more to do that she has been mas recording the news since 1978? and in that case wouldnt it be the 38 year old news that is so exciting?

also.. lung cancer... ugh... all those tapes are gonna be all yellow and sticky and ciggerette smelly

Yes she passed in 2012. We knew about these tapes before yesterday.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/us/pennsylvania-tv-news-archive/


http://www.fark.com/comments/8032396/OCD-weirdo-insightful-legend-Me et -lady-who-has-taped-140000-VHS-cassettes-of-TV-news-since-1977#new

the link has a lot more of the story
 
2014-04-02 04:50:27 AM  

Tellingthem: Be nice if some of those missing old Doctor Who episodes were on there.


My first thought as well.
 
2014-04-02 09:42:26 AM  

frepnog: i had at one time probably 50-75 vhs tapes of stuff taped off of old channel master satellite tv.  my favorites were the hours and hours of early MTV.

miss those tapes.


had a friend record all of live aid back in 1985. still have the tapes.  when I get an extra computer and time, I want to edit them down to blue ray.  it won't have the video enhancement that the live aid dvd did, but i'll have much more footage.

I also used to use chs tapes to record audio when radio stations would run a live concert or when MTV ran something that was simulcast on the local radio station.  had a friend mix it to synch it up.
 
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