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(Fox News)   "Well, the antique cup known as the Chalice of Dona Urruca, which sits in Leon's basilica of Saint Isidore, which, I've just remembered, is Grail shaped. It's not the first time we've had this problem"   (foxnews.com) divider line 55
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2014-04-01 09:11:18 AM
earnthis.net

'May we see it?'
 
2014-04-01 09:17:19 AM
*facepalm*

Really?  These people haven't accepted yet that every farking "relic of Christ" to date has been proved a fake?

Can you imagine how the world would change if the people who spend all this time on religion were to spend it on bettering the lot of humanity?
 
2014-04-01 09:21:50 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

Yeah, totally legit.
 
2014-04-01 09:26:29 AM
According to Wikipedia, carbon dating dated this cup to between 200 BC and 100 AD.

How the hell do you carbon date onyx?
 
2014-04-01 09:37:21 AM

RexTalionis: How the hell do you carbon date onyx?


Step 1: Slam.
Step 2: Let the boys be boys.
 
2014-04-01 09:50:23 AM
"The two historians say they're not sure about the first 400 years of the cup's history, and they're not certain whether the chalice ever actually touched Christ's lips."

So what you're saying is, you found a cup that is of approximate age and declared it to be the holy grail. That's some fine archeology there, Lou.
 
2014-04-01 10:48:51 AM
Not San Greal, but Sang Real. Didn't the DaVinci Code teach you anything?
 
2014-04-01 10:50:17 AM
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2014-04-01 10:50:58 AM
Too fancy.

This is the cup of a carpenter:
i31.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-01 10:53:14 AM

AMonkey'sUncle: Not San Greal, but Sang Real. Didn't the DaVinci Code teach you anything?



Not Sangria, but Shangri la. Didn't "Sanford and Son" teach you anything?
 
2014-04-01 10:53:58 AM
content.internetvideoarchive.com

I can get it.
 
2014-04-01 10:55:27 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: *facepalm*

Really?  These people haven't accepted yet that every farking "relic of Christ" to date has been proved a fake?

Can you imagine how the world would change if the people who spend all this time on religion were to spend it on bettering the lot of humanity?


No, no, I can't, because I don't believe that will ever happen. Cosplay and furries and monotheism have persuaded me that people will go to fantastical lengths to avoid reality, or to even spend much time in it.
 
2014-04-01 10:58:47 AM

Valiente: Benevolent Misanthrope: *facepalm*

Really?  These people haven't accepted yet that every farking "relic of Christ" to date has been proved a fake?

Can you imagine how the world would change if the people who spend all this time on religion were to spend it on bettering the lot of humanity?

No, no, I can't, because I don't believe that will ever happen. Cosplay and furries and monotheism have persuaded me that people will go to fantastical lengths to avoid reality, or to even spend much time in it.


Don't forget MMORPGs.
 
2014-04-01 11:00:51 AM
In deciding to repeat this thread from yesterday the banmonkeys have chosen........poorly.
 
2014-04-01 11:02:19 AM
Pete and Re-Pete walk into a bar. Re-pete looks at Pete and says "14 down and 1 across is where you'll find it".
 
2014-04-01 11:03:31 AM

cgraves67: Valiente: Benevolent Misanthrope: *facepalm*

Really?  These people haven't accepted yet that every farking "relic of Christ" to date has been proved a fake?

Can you imagine how the world would change if the people who spend all this time on religion were to spend it on bettering the lot of humanity?

No, no, I can't, because I don't believe that will ever happen. Cosplay and furries and monotheism have persuaded me that people will go to fantastical lengths to avoid reality, or to even spend much time in it.

Don't forget MMORPGs.


And people who still support Taft.

/Doing it right?
 
2014-04-01 11:06:08 AM
Valiente:Cosplay and furries and monotheism have persuaded me that people will go to fantastical lengths to avoid reality, or to even spend much time in it.

You're just naming things you don't like aren't you?
 
2014-04-01 11:06:12 AM
Yadda yadda yadda, when do we get to the oral sex?
 
2014-04-01 11:10:32 AM

kronicfeld: RexTalionis: How the hell do you carbon date onyx?

Step 1: Slam.
Step 2: Let the boys be boys.


HA!
 
2014-04-01 11:11:24 AM

cgraves67: Valiente: Benevolent Misanthrope: *facepalm*

Really?  These people haven't accepted yet that every farking "relic of Christ" to date has been proved a fake?

Can you imagine how the world would change if the people who spend all this time on religion were to spend it on bettering the lot of humanity?

No, no, I can't, because I don't believe that will ever happen. Cosplay and furries and monotheism have persuaded me that people will go to fantastical lengths to avoid reality, or to even spend much time in it.

Don't forget MMORPGs.


I'm actually trying to do exactly that, along with LARPing.
 
2014-04-01 11:11:34 AM

Arkanaut: Yadda yadda yadda, when do we get to the oral sex?


Yes, dark the cup. I'm here for the oral sex....and maybe some of the spanking. How do you think Zoot has held up?
 
2014-04-01 11:11:55 AM

Andy Zmuda: Pete and Re-Pete walk into a bar. Re-pete looks at Pete and says "14 down and 1 across is where you'll find it".


Pete and Re-Pete are doing a crossword puzzle?
 
2014-04-01 11:13:12 AM

Arkanaut: Yadda yadda yadda, when do we get to the oral sex?


It's too perilous.
 
2014-04-01 11:13:19 AM

Voiceofreason01: Valiente:Cosplay and furries and monotheism have persuaded me that people will go to fantastical lengths to avoid reality, or to even spend much time in it.

You're just naming things you don't like aren't you?


No, I'm naming things that I consider equivalent. World religions and creepy dress-up as fantasy characters with a vaguely sexual undertone seem equivalent to me, and apparently to the average priest.
 
2014-04-01 11:15:24 AM

cgraves67: Don't forget MMORPGs.


And "creative" porn
 
2014-04-01 11:16:49 AM

naughtyrev: "The two historians say they're not sure about the first 400 years of the cup's history, and they're not certain whether the chalice ever actually touched Christ's lips."

So what you're saying is, you found a cup that is of approximate age and declared it to be the holy grail. That's some fine archeology there, Lou.


If you read further on, they say that they're not able to show that it's the one used by Christ, but they apparently believe they can demonstrate that early Christians  believed this to be that cup.

Probably a fake, just like every other relic, but just wanted to be clear that they weren't claiming that.
 
2014-04-01 11:24:00 AM
If that was Jesus pimp cup it would have his name on it, J-Man in diamonds. That looks more like it would be Pauls.
 
2014-04-01 11:25:41 AM

Valiente: No, I'm naming things that I consider equivalent.


You consider cosplay, furries and monotheism to be equivalent? Care to elaborate because that seems....poorly thought out.

Just so you know where I'm coming from, I'm getting a serious, "Arg! I'm in college and just read God Delusion, so I know everything and why are people so dumb?!" vibe from you.
 
2014-04-01 11:28:02 AM
What about the plate and knife and fork that Jesus used at the last supper? Why all the intense concern about the cup he drank wine out of? Why is drinking wine more important than eating food to Christians?
 
2014-04-01 11:28:20 AM
Does it have the brew that is true?
 
2014-04-01 11:31:11 AM

Voiceofreason01: You consider cosplay, furries and monotheism to be equivalent? Care to elaborate because that seems....poorly thought out.


I dunno, I was thinking more along the lines that they were going for 'escapist thoughts being prevalent or at least taking up a good amount of time and energy'. Or I could just be reading too much into it.
 
2014-04-01 11:31:54 AM

Voiceofreason01: Valiente: No, I'm naming things that I consider equivalent.

You consider cosplay, furries and monotheism to be equivalent? Care to elaborate because that seems....poorly thought out.


I agree.  Most furries and cosplayers don't actually believe they're animals or characters from stories, or structure their lives around that belief.
 
2014-04-01 11:32:26 AM
The researchers names are margarita and jose?

I'm assuming they're a couple, because you can't have a margarita without a little jose in it.
 
2014-04-01 11:36:53 AM

RexTalionis: [upload.wikimedia.org image 480x768]

Yeah, totally legit.


FTFA: "In the book, they detail how they believe the 2,000-year-old vessel is contained within another, antique cup known as the Chalice of Dona Urruca"

So they're theory is that the original chalice is hidden inside another gussied up cup.

What a Chalice of Dona Uruk Hai might look like:
lygsbtd.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-01 11:37:34 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Valiente: No, I'm naming things that I consider equivalent.

You consider cosplay, furries and monotheism to be equivalent? Care to elaborate because that seems....poorly thought out.

I agree.  Most furries and cosplayers don't actually believe they're animals or characters from stories, or structure their lives around that belief.


Right? It's like saying that apples, red meat and paper are the same thing because they're all technically edible.
 
2014-04-01 11:37:52 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: *facepalm*

Really?  These people haven't accepted yet that every farking "relic of Christ" to date has been proved a fake?

Can you imagine how the world would change if the people who spend all this time on religion were to spend it on bettering the lot of humanity?


Hey now. Just be thankful they're spending their time on that rather than killing people.
 
2014-04-01 11:38:56 AM

kronicfeld: RexTalionis: How the hell do you carbon date onyx?

Step 1: Slam.
Step 2: Let the boys be boys.


Hold up, you also need help from me and Jack, the black vagina finda.
 
2014-04-01 11:42:07 AM

FnkyTwn: What about the plate and knife and fork that Jesus used at the last supper? Why all the intense concern about the cup he drank wine out of? Why is drinking wine more important than eating food to Christians?


If this is a serious question (I honestly can't tell any longer), you might want to read about history of the sacrament of Communion and in particular the part where the sacrament of wine was withheld from the laity by the Catholic church (roughly, starting in the 12th century), and the elaborate theological hoops they then had to jump through to justify this decision.

Fun fact: in the first millennium CE, children were often given communion wine (but not bread).
 
2014-04-01 11:42:18 AM
Scientists: We found proof of gravitational waves immediately after the Big Bang.

Pants-shiatting Christians: WE FOUND THE HOLY GRAIL!!!


Seems legit.
 
2014-04-01 11:43:29 AM

sugardave: Pants-shiatting Christians: WE FOUND THE HOLY GRAIL!!!


some dope claims to have FOUND THE HOLY GRAIL!!! every few years.
 
2014-04-01 11:54:33 AM

Cyclometh: naughtyrev: "The two historians say they're not sure about the first 400 years of the cup's history, and they're not certain whether the chalice ever actually touched Christ's lips."

So what you're saying is, you found a cup that is of approximate age and declared it to be the holy grail. That's some fine archeology there, Lou.

If you read further on, they say that they're not able to show that it's the one used by Christ, but they apparently believe they can demonstrate that early Christians  believed this to be that cup.

Probably a fake, just like every other relic, but just wanted to be clear that they weren't claiming that.


Yeah, it's kind of like the 27 fingers of John the Baptist, that were being venerated in the Middle Ages.  My question is, are you really going to devote a lot of time researching it or is there something more productive you can do?

"Probably a fake", yeah, Jesus and the Apostles were supposed to be poor, so a nicely carved onyx cup looks a little out of their league.  It was mentioned that Jesus had some followers, who were wealthy, like Nicodemus or whatever his name was, that provided the burial arrangements for Jesus, but the cup seems out of place.  I would think it would be bowl shaped and probably made of wood.
 
2014-04-01 12:00:09 PM
I'm not drinking out of any vessel with 200 year old back wash in it.
 
2014-04-01 12:01:46 PM

give me doughnuts: Too fancy.

This is the cup of a carpenter:
[i31.photobucket.com image 300x400]


FatherChaos: [content.internetvideoarchive.com image 320x240]

I can get it.


And we'e done here.  Well played.
 
2014-04-01 12:06:10 PM

zimbomba63: Cyclometh: naughtyrev: "The two historians say they're not sure about the first 400 years of the cup's history, and they're not certain whether the chalice ever actually touched Christ's lips."

So what you're saying is, you found a cup that is of approximate age and declared it to be the holy grail. That's some fine archeology there, Lou.

If you read further on, they say that they're not able to show that it's the one used by Christ, but they apparently believe they can demonstrate that early Christians  believed this to be that cup.

Probably a fake, just like every other relic, but just wanted to be clear that they weren't claiming that.

Yeah, it's kind of like the 27 fingers of John the Baptist, that were being venerated in the Middle Ages.  My question is, are you really going to devote a lot of time researching it or is there something more productive you can do?

"Probably a fake", yeah, Jesus and the Apostles were supposed to be poor, so a nicely carved onyx cup looks a little out of their league.  It was mentioned that Jesus had some followers, who were wealthy, like Nicodemus or whatever his name was, that provided the burial arrangements for Jesus, but the cup seems out of place.  I would think it would be bowl shaped and probably made of wood.



They are saying the real chalice is inside this one.

'The chalice from the palace has the brew that is true!"
 
2014-04-01 12:07:11 PM

RexTalionis: Yeah, totally legit.


Those were the Big Gulp cups of their day. Everybody had 'em. The "jewels" and other decorations were glass and ceramic chips added on as part of synergistic advertising for the new play at the Acropolis Theatre, "The Rising Dead." The tagline was "just when you thought it was safe to go back to the tomb."

I swear on FSM I am not making this up.

/FSM: every Friday, It's What's For Dinner
 
2014-04-01 12:09:17 PM

gie me doughnuts: Too fancy.

This is the cup of a carpenter:
[i31.photobucket.com image 300x400]


Except at the last supper was Joseph of Arimathea, who was a rich man, and the cups used were his cups, because he kept at least one. Remember this is the guy that donated the tomb for Jesus, and caught the blood of Christ in one of those cups, or possibly a platter depending on how the ancient text was interpreted. The Holy Grail, according to the mythical cannon of Jesus, could ery well be an onyx cup encrusted with gold and jewels, as befits the cup of a rich man.
 
2014-04-01 12:11:06 PM
Hehehe, I told him we've already got one!
 
2014-04-01 12:18:40 PM

RexTalionis: [upload.wikimedia.org image 480x768]

Yeah, totally legit.


People often forget that in the "dark years" between 13 and 30, Christ had a successful career as a hip-hop artist recording under the name "young Christ-y", and that cup totally matches a Pimp cup from which he is seen sipping "juice" in one of his earlier videos
 
2014-04-01 12:24:24 PM

RexTalionis: [upload.wikimedia.org image 480x768]

Yeah, totally legit.


They realize that Jesus was a poor carpenter, right?
 
2014-04-01 12:27:23 PM
Sometimes I really wish I had the Super Genius or Super Inventor super power. I would create a "magic cup" with a bunch of self  replicating nano-bots programmed to heal humans of everything. Then I would place my "magic cup" in some ancient biblical site of archeological interest. Wait for somebody to find it. Then let the religious frenzy build to a fevered pitch, before revealing that I totally made it.

For Laughter OLs.
 
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