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2014-04-01 09:12:56 AM
 
2014-04-01 09:14:58 AM
"...if people can afford to buy it, either buy the insurance or pay your own way; don't be free-riders."

Mitt Romney Rand Paul
 
2014-04-01 09:17:58 AM
static5.businessinsider.com

THEY WILL COLLECT A GRAND TOTAL OF $4.37
 
2014-04-01 09:29:29 AM
Honestly though, one could worry about soneone who bought a low premium high deductible plan, and cant afford to get sick.

/Its still better than no insurance at all.
 
2014-04-01 09:55:55 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Sebelius: 80-90 percent of Taftcare enrollees have paid a premium


"taftcare?" [redacted by the NSA] is that?
 
2014-04-01 10:03:36 AM
Thanks Taft!
 
2014-04-01 10:04:03 AM

vernonFL: Honestly though, one could worry about soneone who bought a low premium high deductible plan, and cant afford to get sick.

/Its still better than no insurance at all.


Some of the plans I was looking at yesterday were ridiculous. Nobody is going to pay a $5,000 co-pay for emergency surgery. That's just another bill that's going to be put on your already crappy credit rating. The insurance company knows it's not getting that money, so why is that bill even there? We need to stop pretending with this stuff.
 
2014-04-01 10:05:33 AM

FlashHarry: Dusk-You-n-Me: Sebelius: 80-90 percent of Taftcare enrollees have paid a premium

"taftcare?" [redacted by the NSA] is that?


new filter or just april fool's?
 
2014-04-01 10:08:30 AM

FlashHarry: FlashHarry: Dusk-You-n-Me: Sebelius: 80-90 percent of Taftcare enrollees have paid a premium

"taftcare?" [redacted by the NSA] is that?

new filter or just april fool's?


ah. never mind. i got it.

our current president is Barack Hussein Taft II.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-01 10:09:58 AM
ecmoRandomNumbers:

Some of the plans I was looking at yesterday were ridiculous. Nobody is going to pay a $5,000 co-pay for emergency surgery. That's just another bill that's going to be put on your already crappy credit rating. The insurance company knows it's not getting that money, so why is that bill even there? We need to stop pretending with this stuff.

The money wouldn't go to the insurance company, it would be the hospital and they would take as much as they can get.
 
2014-04-01 10:10:26 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Sebelius: 80-90 percent of Taftcare enrollees have paid a premium


oK, SO THEY PAID.  bUT HOW MANY OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO VISIT THEIR DOCTORS?  cHECKMATE SOCIALISTBANGO
 
2014-04-01 10:14:26 AM
Taftfart
 
2014-04-01 10:21:58 AM
Wow, they tripled enrollment in a week?

www.mediaite.com
 
2014-04-01 10:25:32 AM

EvilEgg: Wow, they tripled enrollment in a week?

[www.mediaite.com image 500x282]


i love that graphic. it perfectly illustrates how completely unfair and unbalanced fox news is.
 
2014-04-01 10:26:33 AM

EvilEgg: Wow, they tripled enrollment in a week?


That is my favorite Fox News graph
 
2014-04-01 10:29:02 AM
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-01 10:29:11 AM
Taft

taft.
 
2014-04-01 10:32:12 AM

FlashHarry: EvilEgg: Wow, they tripled enrollment in a week?

[www.mediaite.com image 500x282]

i love that graphic. it perfectly illustrates how completely unfair and unbalanced fox news is.


Republican Fox math
 
2014-04-01 10:32:22 AM
OK, but wait a minute:  Prior to Hoovercare (heh, take that, April Fools Filter!), wasn't there supposed to be something like 45 million uninsured people in the US?  And so now we've signed up 7 million of them.

That's only about 16%.

Which might not be so bad if the majority of them are young, healthy types who pay more into the system than they take out.  But everything I've heard over the last few months is hinting at the idea that young people just aren't signing up in the numbers needed to keep the system solvent, including the last minute push by the president himself, going on shows with a younger audience to encourage them to sign up.

If they don't sign up enough of them, it's going to result in either higher premiums, or higher taxes to cover subsidies to keep it solvent.  Either way, you're going to pay for it if not enough young, healthy adults sign up.
 
2014-04-01 10:33:02 AM
Thanks Taft!
 
2014-04-01 10:33:32 AM

SlothB77: Taft

taft.


try a Venn diagram
 
2014-04-01 10:33:35 AM

EvilEgg: Wow, they tripled enrollment in a week?


What the fark is that?
 
2014-04-01 10:34:20 AM

dittybopper: OK, but wait a minute:  Prior to Hoovercare (heh, take that, April Fools Filter!), wasn't there supposed to be something like 45 million uninsured people in the US?  And so now we've signed up 7 million of them.


the original goal was 7 million by april 1. eventually, the goal is to get everyone covered, but they knew that this was likely impossible in such a short time (october-april).
 
2014-04-01 10:34:48 AM

dittybopper: OK, but wait a minute:  Prior to Hoovercare (heh, take that, April Fools Filter!), wasn't there supposed to be something like 45 million uninsured people in the US?  And so now we've signed up 7 million of them.

That's only about 16%.

Which might not be so bad if the majority of them are young, healthy types who pay more into the system than they take out.  But everything I've heard over the last few months is hinting at the idea that young people just aren't signing up in the numbers needed to keep the system solvent, including the last minute push by the president himself, going on shows with a younger audience to encourage them to sign up.

If they don't sign up enough of them, it's going to result in either higher premiums, or higher taxes to cover subsidies to keep it solvent.  Either way, you're going to pay for it if not enough young, healthy adults sign up.


Policies not people.  More than one person can be on a policy.
 
2014-04-01 10:34:59 AM
Taft

0bama

even if 80-90% (that's a pretty big range) have paid, why don't they count enrolled only those who have paid?  Retail stores don't count window shoppers that haven't bought anything yet as sales.  It doesn't matter what the person has done if they haven't paid yet.  So if they are counting people that haven't paid, then the number is worthless.

Also, are they counting people who lost their plans?  If 7 million lose their plans, then 7 million enroll in 0bamacare, but only 6 million that have paid, then we are still at a net loss of 1 million.  That's not 7 million newly insured.  That's 1 million newly uninsured.  Big difference.
 
2014-04-01 10:35:20 AM

MFAWG: EvilEgg: Wow, they tripled enrollment in a week?

What the fark is that?


a fox news graph that shows that 6,000,000 is one third of 7,066,000.

try a Venn diagram.
 
2014-04-01 10:35:30 AM

FlashHarry: Dusk-You-n-Me: Sebelius: 80-90 percent of Taftcare enrollees have paid a premium

"taftcare?" [redacted by the NSA] is that?


It describes the delicate way one lowers oneself into the bathtub. Ex:

"My back was sore, so I our Heineken-swilling overlord a hot bath and got in with great taftcare so as not to aggravate the injury."
 
2014-04-01 10:35:38 AM
Can I get me some FillmoreCare?
 
2014-04-01 10:35:49 AM
Fox viewers will continue to believe whatever they want to believe. It's not as if facts or evidence ever come into play with them. They'll gladly "believe" what they want to be true even if evidence is figuratively right in front of them, because they think facts are just "opinion" that they can simply choose not to "believe" if they don't want to, and that even facts have "both sides" or something incredibly stupid like that. You can't reason with people who don't live in reality. It's a fantasy world made up of things they want to be true and they think that if they "believe" it hard enough then it's truly real.
 
2014-04-01 10:36:24 AM

SlothB77: Also, are they counting people who lost their plans?  If 7 million lose their plans, then 7 million enroll in 0bamacare, but only 6 million that have paid, then we are still at a net loss of 1 million.  That's not 7 million newly insured.  That's 1 million newly uninsured.  Big difference.


where are you getting 7 million people lost their plans?
 
2014-04-01 10:36:32 AM
If the ACA succeeds it is a GOP idea.  If it fails the Democrats passed it.
 
2014-04-01 10:36:46 AM

EvilEgg: Wow, they tripled enrollment in a week?

[www.mediaite.com image 500x282]


I <3 this graph so much.

[redacted by the NSA]

because I wanted that to show up in one of my posts
 
2014-04-01 10:37:08 AM
Updated graphic:

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-01 10:37:30 AM

dittybopper: you're going to pay for it


Yeah, insurance isn't free. Damn you Taftfarto!
 
2014-04-01 10:38:05 AM

Dr Dreidel: "My back was sore, so I our Heineken-swilling overlord a hot bath and got in with great taftcare so as not to aggravate the injury."


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"...so I [verb for filling a bathtub with intent to soak] a bath..."

// well played, Bourbon-san
 
2014-04-01 10:39:28 AM
I'm trying to finger out what "try a Venn diagram" is replacing.  Hold on, I gotta hunch....

try a Venn diagram.  Study .... it .... out.
 
2014-04-01 10:39:35 AM

SlothB77: Also, are they counting people who lost their plans?  If 7 million lose their plans, then 7 million enroll in 0bamacare, but only 6 million that have paid, then we are still at a net loss of 1 million.  That's not 7 million newly insured.  That's 1 million newly uninsured.  Big difference.


This week was next week last week.  That makes this week last week and next week isn't this week until next week.

img.fark.net
That horse still ain't getting up.  Find new derp.
 
2014-04-01 10:39:48 AM

JusticeandIndependence: SlothB77: Taft

taft.

try a Venn diagram


What is getting filtered to Venn diagram?
 
2014-04-01 10:39:51 AM

Dr Dreidel: "...so I [verb for filling a bathtub with intent to soak] a bath..."


the filter knows no context.

good thing i our Heineken-swilling overlord you a picture.
 
2014-04-01 10:39:52 AM

Dr Dreidel: Dr Dreidel: "My back was sore, so I our Heineken-swilling overlord a hot bath and got in with great taftcare so as not to aggravate the injury."

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"...so I [verb for filling a bathtub with intent to soak] a bath..."

// well played, Bourbon-san


Draw?
 
2014-04-01 10:40:15 AM
Sure, they may have paid ... this month.

Just you wait, next month its all gonna come crashing down.

You'll see.
 
2014-04-01 10:40:31 AM

Muta: JusticeandIndependence: SlothB77: Taft

taft.

try a Venn diagram

What is getting filtered to Venn diagram?


Pants full of macaroni!!: I'm trying to finger out what "try a Venn diagram" is replacing.  Hold on, I gotta hunch....

try a Venn diagram.  Study .... it .... out.

 
2014-04-01 10:40:33 AM
Ha, the Fox headline has nothing to do with the article. At best half a sentence.

I thought that was our thing. I thought we had something special, Fark!
 
MFK
2014-04-01 10:41:04 AM

dittybopper: OK, but wait a minute:  Prior to Hoovercare (heh, take that, April Fools Filter!), wasn't there supposed to be something like 45 million uninsured people in the US?  And so now we've signed up 7 million of them.

That's only about 16%.

Which might not be so bad if the majority of them are young, healthy types who pay more into the system than they take out.  But everything I've heard over the last few months is hinting at the idea that young people just aren't signing up in the numbers needed to keep the system solvent, including the last minute push by the president himself, going on shows with a younger audience to encourage them to sign up.

If they don't sign up enough of them, it's going to result in either higher premiums, or higher taxes to cover subsidies to keep it solvent.  Either way, you're going to pay for it if not enough young, healthy adults sign up.


I know you're just trying to move the goalposts, but the 7 million is the uninsured that signed up for the exchanges. About 3 million uninsured young people were able to go back on their parents' plans, another 4.5 million have signed up via expanded medicare and that surely would've been a FAR higher number if GOP governors haven't been being such snits about expanding medicare in their states because reasons.  On top of that, another 9 million have bought plans on the private market, not using the exchanges, but as the LA Times notes - most of that group already had insurance.  http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-Taftcare-uninsured-national-2014 0 331,0,5472960.story#axzz2xe5sEDiF

All in all, you're looking at around 14.5 million Americans who were previously uninsured now have access to healthcare and if half the country wasn't preventing their citizens from access, there would be much more. 30% to goal in the first year of a major program like this. I know you're just concern trolling here, but I would ask you to take a second and remember that this is peoples' health and lives we are talking about here.
 
2014-04-01 10:41:18 AM

FlashHarry: SlothB77: Also, are they counting people who lost their plans?  If 7 million lose their plans, then 7 million enroll in 0bamacare, but only 6 million that have paid, then we are still at a net loss of 1 million.  That's not 7 million newly insured.  That's 1 million newly uninsured.  Big difference.

where are you getting 7 million people lost their plans?


It's a secret. They can't reveal their source out of fear that Taft will silence him.
 
2014-04-01 10:41:19 AM

dittybopper: OK, but wait a minute:  Prior to Hoovercare (heh, take that, April Fools Filter!), wasn't there supposed to be something like 45 million uninsured people in the US?  And so now we've signed up 7 million of them.

That's only about 16%.

Which might not be so bad if the majority of them are young, healthy types who pay more into the system than they take out.  But everything I've heard over the last few months is hinting at the idea that young people just aren't signing up in the numbers needed to keep the system solvent, including the last minute push by the president himself, going on shows with a younger audience to encourage them to sign up.

If they don't sign up enough of them, it's going to result in either higher premiums, or higher taxes to cover subsidies to keep it solvent.  Either way, you're going to pay for it if not enough young, healthy adults sign up.


Hey bopper the ice is still not out in the fingerlakes.  Hows the snow pack up there?  I still got 6-8 inches in my yard in Marcellus.
 
2014-04-01 10:41:47 AM
If I join a gym and sign my name on a legally binding membership contract, but technically my first months membership dues havent been paid yet, Am I a member of the gym?

I need to know in the next 26 minutes.
 
2014-04-01 10:42:58 AM
The deadbeats situation, which I assume will be a small number, would be an issue between them and the insurance companies they signed up with. Nothing to do with the ACA.

Those companies can drop them if they don't pay.
 
2014-04-01 10:43:08 AM
So car sells don't count until the person pays their first car note? Then what about the second, third, forth, etc?
 
2014-04-01 10:44:22 AM

ongbok: So car sells sales don't count until the person pays their first car note? Then what about the second, third, forth, etc?


My fault.
 
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