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(New Musical Express)   Michael Stipe will induct Nirvana into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame   (nme.com ) divider line
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2014-04-01 10:24:33 AM  
I like Nirvana
 
2014-04-01 10:30:12 AM  
Why is that ironic?  Michael Stipe and Kurt Cobain were close friends.  Everyone knows that.
 
2014-04-01 10:30:40 AM  
I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?
 
2014-04-01 10:31:40 AM  

El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?


Apparently kiilled himself while listening to Automatic for the People; or some shiat like that
 
2014-04-01 10:34:52 AM  

El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?


Its like rain on your wedding day.
 
2014-04-01 10:35:57 AM  
Is it ironic like when she goes down on you in a theater?
 
2014-04-01 10:36:38 AM  
Nirvana's induction ought to coax some priceless moments out of Courtney Love on Twitter.
 
2014-04-01 10:38:24 AM  
Ironic....I don't get it either, REM is already in the RRHOF so that can't be the issue.

Subby must only know Nirvana as that song the Weird Al did.
 
2014-04-01 10:40:03 AM  

astonrickenbach: Is it ironic like when she goes down on you in a theater?


No, you oughta know.

Mjeck: El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?

Apparently kiilled himself while listening to Automatic for the People; or some shiat like that


Is that what it is?
 
2014-04-01 10:44:43 AM  

ten foiled hats: astonrickenbach: Is it ironic like when she goes down on you in a theater?

No, you oughta know.

Mjeck: El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?

Apparently kiilled himself while listening to Automatic for the People; or some shiat like that

Is that what it is?


it's a good excuse if nothing else.
 
2014-04-01 10:55:00 AM  

nburghmatt: ten foiled hats: astonrickenbach: Is it ironic like when she goes down on you in a theater?

No, you oughta know.

Mjeck: El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?

Apparently kiilled himself while listening to Automatic for the People; or some shiat like that

Is that what it is?

it's a good excuse if nothing else.


To kill yourself? Come on, Automatic for the People wasn't THAT bad...
 
2014-04-01 11:04:44 AM  
Another misuse of "ironic".
The word you want is "ferric".
 
2014-04-01 11:07:49 AM  

Mjeck: nburghmatt: ten foiled hats: astonrickenbach: Is it ironic like when she goes down on you in a theater?

No, you oughta know.

Mjeck: El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?

Apparently kiilled himself while listening to Automatic for the People; or some shiat like that

Is that what it is?

it's a good excuse if nothing else.

To kill yourself? Come on, Automatic for the People wasn't THAT bad...


I dunno, "Everybody Hurts" was a damn good song, but made me want to throw myself off a ledge.
 
2014-04-01 11:10:20 AM  

Mjeck: El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?

Apparently kiilled himself while listening to Automatic for the People; or some shiat like that


Wasn't "Let Me In" from "Monster" dedicated to Kurt Cobain?
 
2014-04-01 11:30:16 AM  
I'm not sure why this is ironic, everything I've read about KC leads me to believe he liked and respected Michael Stipe.
 
2014-04-01 11:33:35 AM  

Buttknuckle: Mjeck: nburghmatt: ten foiled hats: astonrickenbach: Is it ironic like when she goes down on you in a theater?

No, you oughta know.

Mjeck: El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?

Apparently kiilled himself while listening to Automatic for the People; or some shiat like that

Is that what it is?

it's a good excuse if nothing else.

To kill yourself? Come on, Automatic for the People wasn't THAT bad...

I dunno, "Everybody Hurts" was a damn good song, but made me want to throw myself off a ledge.


The 90s were good for that kind of thing.
Most of the Boomers were in therapy that decade.
 
2014-04-01 11:37:29 AM  

Buttknuckle: Mjeck: nburghmatt: ten foiled hats: astonrickenbach: Is it ironic like when she goes down on you in a theater?

No, you oughta know.

Mjeck: El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?

Apparently kiilled himself while listening to Automatic for the People; or some shiat like that

Is that what it is?

it's a good excuse if nothing else.

To kill yourself? Come on, Automatic for the People wasn't THAT bad...

I dunno, "Everybody Hurts" was a damn good song, but made me want to throw myself off a ledge.


wish you'd step back from that ledge my friend
you could cut ties with all the lies that you've been living in
 
2014-04-01 11:40:38 AM  
Whiner inducts whiner, it is perfect.
 
2014-04-01 11:48:16 AM  

El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?


Kurt was a shiny, happy person.
 
2014-04-01 11:49:31 AM  

Bith Set Me Up: Wasn't "Let Me In" from "Monster" dedicated to Kurt Cobain?


Yeah, but between 1994 and 1996 almost every band out there recorded a Cobain tribute.  Hell, Neil Young made an entire album (Mirrorball) dedicated to him.

The only one I remember being any good was Patti Smith's "About a Boy".
 
2014-04-01 11:55:54 AM  
Just as long as Dave Grohl is there. That's all that matters.

It's a music industry shindig. A Dave Grohl appearance is mandatory. He is the official music industry mascot.

And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.
 
2014-04-01 12:04:34 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Bith Set Me Up: Wasn't "Let Me In" from "Monster" dedicated to Kurt Cobain?

Yeah, but between 1994 and 1996 almost every band out there recorded a Cobain tribute.  Hell, Neil Young made an entire album (Mirrorball) dedicated to him.

The only one I remember being any good was Patti Smith's "About a Boy".


Neil Young makes total sense since Kurt directed quoted him in his suicide note. Since Kurt's death, Neil puts greater upon the line "Once you're gone, you can't come back."
 
2014-04-01 12:07:50 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Bith Set Me Up: Wasn't "Let Me In" from "Monster" dedicated to Kurt Cobain?

Yeah, but between 1994 and 1996 almost every band out there recorded a Cobain tribute.  Hell, Neil Young made an entire album (Mirrorball) dedicated to him.

The only one I remember being any good was Patti Smith's "About a Boy".


I thought Sleeps With Angels was NY's Cobain tribute.
 
2014-04-01 12:12:36 PM  

dennysgod: Subby must only know Nirvana as that song the Weird Al did.


Weird Al's version is better.

Plus, I imagine he doesn't rail on his fans if they want to hear him play it
 
2014-04-01 12:17:47 PM  

barneyfifesbullet: And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.


I was just talking to someone the other day who was trying to make the case for Monster being a solid album.  In my recollection it pretty much sucked, but I haven't heard it in...sh*t, since not long after it came out.  I may have to go back and revisit it.  (This friend Normally has pretty solid taste in music.  Normally.)

/What's wombats?
 
2014-04-01 12:18:01 PM  

barneyfifesbullet: Just as long as Dave Grohl is there. That's all that matters.

It's a music industry shindig. A Dave Grohl appearance is mandatory. He is the official music industry mascot.

And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.


Actually, that would be Accelerate. Don't feel bad. Nobody else bought it, either.
 
2014-04-01 12:19:19 PM  

ten foiled hats: barneyfifesbullet: And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.

I was just talking to someone the other day who was trying to make the case for Monster being a solid album.  In my recollection it pretty much sucked, but I haven't heard it in...sh*t, since not long after it came out.  I may have to go back and revisit it.  (This friend Normally has pretty solid taste in music.  Normally.)

/What's wombats?


I loved Monster. It's the best Who album that didn't come from The Who.
 
2014-04-01 12:31:34 PM  

markfara: barneyfifesbullet: Just as long as Dave Grohl is there. That's all that matters.

It's a music industry shindig. A Dave Grohl appearance is mandatory. He is the official music industry mascot.

And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.

Actually, that would be Accelerate. Don't feel bad. Nobody else bought it, either.


To me, New Adventures in Hi-Fi was their last great album. Accelerate (and to a lesser extent, Collapse into Now) was solid, but the second half seemed kind of listless to me. Not quite Around the Sun listless, but Side One of Automatic For the People listless.
 
2014-04-01 12:34:34 PM  

Trainspotr: markfara: barneyfifesbullet: Just as long as Dave Grohl is there. That's all that matters.

It's a music industry shindig. A Dave Grohl appearance is mandatory. He is the official music industry mascot.

And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.

Actually, that would be Accelerate. Don't feel bad. Nobody else bought it, either.

To me, New Adventures in Hi-Fi was their last great album. Accelerate (and to a lesser extent, Collapse into Now) was solid, but the second half seemed kind of listless to me. Not quite Around the Sun listless, but Side One of Automatic For the People listless.


I really thought for a long time that they'd end up with the longevity of the Stones. Didn't think they'd peter out the way they did.
 
2014-04-01 12:39:36 PM  

Trainspotr: I thought Sleeps With Angels was NY's Cobain tribute.


I think you're right; my brother stole all my mid-1990s Neil Young CDs when he was in high school, so I honestly haven't listened to those albums since about 1998.
 
2014-04-01 12:45:33 PM  

Buttknuckle: Mjeck: nburghmatt: ten foiled hats: astonrickenbach: Is it ironic like when she goes down on you in a theater?

No, you oughta know.

Mjeck: El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?

Apparently kiilled himself while listening to Automatic for the People; or some shiat like that

Is that what it is?

it's a good excuse if nothing else.

To kill yourself? Come on, Automatic for the People wasn't THAT bad...

I dunno, "Everybody Hurts" was a damn good song, but made me want to throw myself off a ledge.


Everybody hurts. Because of they weren't hurting before, they sure are after listening to your depressing shiat. Thanks a lot, Michael Stipe.
 
2014-04-01 12:53:07 PM  

markfara: Trainspotr: markfara: barneyfifesbullet: Just as long as Dave Grohl is there. That's all that matters.

It's a music industry shindig. A Dave Grohl appearance is mandatory. He is the official music industry mascot.

And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.

Actually, that would be Accelerate. Don't feel bad. Nobody else bought it, either.

To me, New Adventures in Hi-Fi was their last great album. Accelerate (and to a lesser extent, Collapse into Now) was solid, but the second half seemed kind of listless to me. Not quite Around the Sun listless, but Side One of Automatic For the People listless.

I really thought for a long time that they'd end up with the longevity of the Stones. Didn't think they'd peter out the way they did.


What was the last truly great Stones album? Tattoo You? I think if R.E.M. wanted to spend the next thirty years releasing mediocre albums and touring on their greatest hits, they could have easily done it. I think their hearts were not really in it after Bill Berry left, and Peter Buck in particular has seemed more interested in playing with other people for the better part of the last 15 years. I saw him play with Robyn Hitchcock in front of a couple hundred people a few years ago, and he seemed to be having the time of his life.

Now to go contemplate the idea that R.E.M.s entire catalog was released after Tattoo You.
 
2014-04-01 01:00:07 PM  

Trainspotr: markfara: Trainspotr: markfara: barneyfifesbullet: Just as long as Dave Grohl is there. That's all that matters.

It's a music industry shindig. A Dave Grohl appearance is mandatory. He is the official music industry mascot.

And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.

Actually, that would be Accelerate. Don't feel bad. Nobody else bought it, either.

To me, New Adventures in Hi-Fi was their last great album. Accelerate (and to a lesser extent, Collapse into Now) was solid, but the second half seemed kind of listless to me. Not quite Around the Sun listless, but Side One of Automatic For the People listless.

I really thought for a long time that they'd end up with the longevity of the Stones. Didn't think they'd peter out the way they did.

What was the last truly great Stones album? Tattoo You? I think if R.E.M. wanted to spend the next thirty years releasing mediocre albums and touring on their greatest hits, they could have easily done it. I think their hearts were not really in it after Bill Berry left, and Peter Buck in particular has seemed more interested in playing with other people for the better part of the last 15 years. I saw him play with Robyn Hitchcock in front of a couple hundred people a few years ago, and he seemed to be having the time of his life.

Now to go contemplate the idea that R.E.M.s entire catalog was released after Tattoo You.


Yeah, some good points there. I envy your Robyn Hitchcock experience, BTW.

The last TRULY great Stones album? Yeah, probably "Tattoo You". Their most recent one, "A Bigger Bang," is the best they've done since then, and if they're smart, they'll let that one be their last. It would make a fine farewell.
 
2014-04-01 01:03:09 PM  

Trainspotr: Now to go contemplate the idea that R.E.M.s entire catalog was released after Tattoo You.


I just learned that Chronic Town was released one year to the day after Tattoo You.

Oh, you're very welcome!
 
2014-04-01 01:03:24 PM  
Was hoping for Neil Young to do the honors
 
2014-04-01 01:13:50 PM  

markfara: Trainspotr: markfara: barneyfifesbullet: Just as long as Dave Grohl is there. That's all that matters.

It's a music industry shindig. A Dave Grohl appearance is mandatory. He is the official music industry mascot.

And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.

Actually, that would be Accelerate. Don't feel bad. Nobody else bought it, either.

To me, New Adventures in Hi-Fi was their last great album. Accelerate (and to a lesser extent, Collapse into Now) was solid, but the second half seemed kind of listless to me. Not quite Around the Sun listless, but Side One of Automatic For the People listless.

I really thought for a long time that they'd end up with the longevity of the Stones. Didn't think they'd peter out the way they did.


I think Monster was their last GREAT album. New Adventures had some decent tracks, but Monster is a juggernaut.
 
2014-04-01 01:28:47 PM  
How many t-shirts will Stipe be wearing?
 
2014-04-01 01:28:57 PM  
Should be injected instead of inducted.
 
2014-04-01 01:38:46 PM  

markfara: barneyfifesbullet: Just as long as Dave Grohl is there. That's all that matters.

It's a music industry shindig. A Dave Grohl appearance is mandatory. He is the official music industry mascot.

And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.

Actually, that would be Accelerate. Don't feel bad. Nobody else bought it, either.


No, actually that would be New Adventures in Hi Fi
 
2014-04-01 01:48:02 PM  

Billy Liar: Another misuse of "ironic".
The word you want is "ferric".


Ha!
 
2014-04-01 01:48:49 PM  
It's ironic because Micheal Stipe is gay, and Kurt Cobain - who was married to Courtney Love at the time - killed himself.  Presumably because he was married to Courtney Love.
 
2014-04-01 01:49:20 PM  

Hebalo: markfara: Trainspotr: markfara: barneyfifesbullet: Just as long as Dave Grohl is there. That's all that matters.

It's a music industry shindig. A Dave Grohl appearance is mandatory. He is the official music industry mascot.

And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.

Actually, that would be Accelerate. Don't feel bad. Nobody else bought it, either.

To me, New Adventures in Hi-Fi was their last great album. Accelerate (and to a lesser extent, Collapse into Now) was solid, but the second half seemed kind of listless to me. Not quite Around the Sun listless, but Side One of Automatic For the People listless.

I really thought for a long time that they'd end up with the longevity of the Stones. Didn't think they'd peter out the way they did.

I think Monster was their last GREAT album. New Adventures had some decent tracks, but Monster is a juggernaut.


I'm not going to argue, because I think we're talking about possibly their two most underrated albums. For me, I love the schizophrenic feeling of New Adventures, which is fitting since it was largely recorded on tour at various studios, and at least one soundcheck. I remember describing to a friend at the time as an R.E.M. greatest hits album from an alternate universe. Nothing on it was unfamiliar, but it was completely new as well. And "Electrolite" might be my favorite R.E.M. song ever, so the album gets bonus points for that.
 
2014-04-01 01:51:00 PM  

El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?


REM is from Athens, Georgia which is not near Seattle, Washington, where Nirvana was based. See? Also, REM kind of rhymes with "rainin' again" which describes Seattle's climate.
 
2014-04-01 01:54:23 PM  

Trainspotr: I remember describing to a friend at the time as an R.E.M. greatest hits album from an alternate universe. Nothing on it was unfamiliar, but it was completely new as well.


That's the most apt description of that album I've ever seen.

And, yes, it was R.E.M.'s last great album. "E-Bow the Letter" is amazing.
 
2014-04-01 01:56:29 PM  

El Freak: I must be missing something here. Can anyone tell me why this is ironic?


Kurt tried to convince Michael Stipe not to attend REM's RRHoF induction because Kurt felt the RRHoF was bullshiat.
 
2014-04-01 02:05:03 PM  
they just weren't that good.

is it cuz they sold a lot of records, or what?
 
2014-04-01 02:14:33 PM  

davynelson: they just weren't that good.

is it cuz they sold a lot of records, or what?


Go find a hair metal album from, oh, 1990. Warrant's "Cherry Pie", for example. It was time for music like that to go away.

Nirvana came in and held the pillow over glam rock's face until it stopped struggling.
 
2014-04-01 02:18:53 PM  
Ironic would be Jim Morrison inducting them and KC showing up with Elvis and Freddie Mercury.

/all of which are still alive
 
2014-04-01 02:20:31 PM  

Gonz: davynelson: they just weren't that good.

is it cuz they sold a lot of records, or what?

Go find a hair metal album from, oh, 1990. Warrant's "Cherry Pie", for example. It was time for music like that to go away.

Nirvana came in and held the pillow over glam rock's face until it stopped struggling.


Black Crowes would like a word with you.
 
2014-04-01 02:26:40 PM  

Hebalo: markfara: Trainspotr: markfara: barneyfifesbullet: Just as long as Dave Grohl is there. That's all that matters.

It's a music industry shindig. A Dave Grohl appearance is mandatory. He is the official music industry mascot.


And, Automatic For the People was the last great REM album.


Actually, that would be Accelerate. Don't feel bad. Nobody else bought it, either.


To me, New Adventures in Hi-Fi was their last great album. Accelerate (and to a lesser extent, Collapse into Now) was solid, but the second half seemed kind of listless to me. Not quite Around the Sun listless, but Side One of Automatic For the People listless.


I really thought for a long time that they'd end up with the longevity of the Stones. Didn't think they'd peter out the way they did.


I think Monster was their last GREAT album. New Adventures had some decent tracks, but Monster is a juggernaut.


Wow, Monster....I am the polar opposite. I think that Murmur is their masterwork, and I believed that they would be my all-time favorite band. For ever. But along came Green and that was the beginning of the end, due to the spectacular misstep of the odious and unlistenable 'Stand' and then with Monster, they shed their intimacy further by making a conscious decision to become a stadium rock band.


IMO, I took the record and the band's direction as an abandonment of their 'folk' style of sound. R.E.M. were never about the size of their Marshall stacks.....And I was done with 'em as I don't think they handled superstardom very well.


//That said, I'll always have the IRS years.......

 
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