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(The Raw Story)   Abdulrahman Alharbi files a $20 million defamation suit against Glenn Beck and his media company because Beck repeatedly accused him of being responsible for the Boston Marathon attacks, when in fact he was actually a victim of them   ( rawstory.com) divider line
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2014-03-31 04:03:36 PM  
5 votes:
www.joblo.com
2014-03-31 05:03:12 PM  
4 votes:
Good. I hope he wins. Glenn Beck is a major douchenozzle.
2014-03-31 04:24:53 PM  
4 votes:
www.currybet.net
2014-03-31 03:53:25 PM  
4 votes:

cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.


Rebuttal: Everything that Glenn Beck says is said in malice. Everything.
2014-03-31 05:11:09 PM  
3 votes:
We're rooting for you, Mr. Alharbi. Nail him to the wall.


If Glenn Beck isn't sucking off ponies twice a week, why won't he just say that he isn't so we can all move on?
I'm just asking questions!
2014-03-31 03:49:33 PM  
3 votes:

cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.


The only thing that could truly cause emotional distress in Beck is rational thought. No one will buy that argument
2014-03-31 08:07:31 PM  
2 votes:

OnlyM3: cman [TotalFark]
2014-03-31 03:34:28 PM


Beck is a moran.
Agreed. So are the 4dozen total farkers who swore it was done by the Tea Party and even bet that it would not be a member of islam.


None of those morons are on regularly TV deliberately lying to rile up the kind of farktards whose entire world view is shaped by Fox News.

Those "4dozen" farkers don't do 1/1000000000th the harm Beck does to national discourse.
2014-03-31 06:13:56 PM  
2 votes:

Warlordtrooper: cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.

You can't accuse someone of a horrible crime if it's not true. This is what defamation laws were made for. Did that kid that was fall accused of the new town shooting everywhere up because he's due for a serious payday from multiple news stations


Journalists can, however, repeat a false accusation if the police or prosecutors make it; that's called "privilege." That's how the Atlanta Journal-Constitution avoided losing a libel case against Richard Jewell. All they did was say he was the lead suspect (and he was; the cops just screwed up the case). The networks that paid through the nose to Jewell libeled him in commentary; if they'd stuck to the facts followed by "police said," they'd have been OK.
2014-03-31 06:07:30 PM  
2 votes:
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2014-03-31 06:00:14 PM  
2 votes:
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If there is a King of that Commonweath of Morons it's Glenn Beck.
2014-03-31 05:54:53 PM  
2 votes:

FloridaFarkTag: DeathByGeekSquad: He should widen the case, it wasn't just Glenn Beck.  During the initial hours, names were flying everywhere - and articles were being released with those names because everyone was trying to get 'the scoop'.  They later edited out the names, and blamed social media.

True...Beck was one of many tagging this guy as guilty a suspect. Beck was one of a myriad in media doing this

Which means this Saudi national does not have a slam dunk case...and looks like Beck is singled out because he has more $$$ and listeners/viewers outside of the derposphere, calling someone guilty and lying about having supporting evidence is not the same as calling someone a "suspect" or "person of interest."


FTFT. Your hero went full potato again, but this time someone's doing something about it.
2014-03-31 05:40:30 PM  
2 votes:

gunslinger_RG: Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!


I see Glenn Beck as more of a grown up Eric Cartman, and would like it to be more like the end of Cartmanland, where he's financially ruined and facing mounting lawsuits, broke and screaming to the heavens about how God is smiting him.
2014-03-31 05:04:59 PM  
2 votes:
He should widen the case, it wasn't just Glenn Beck.  During the initial hours, names were flying everywhere - and articles were being released with those names because everyone was trying to get 'the scoop'.  They later edited out the names, and blamed social media.
2014-03-31 05:02:14 PM  
2 votes:

cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.


You don't have to prove actual malice in a libel case involving a private citizen. That standard's only for public figures, which this Saudi kid definitely wasn't/isn't. I'm just surprised Beck's insurance company hasn't already settled; the plaintiff's lawyer must smell mega-verdict.
2014-03-31 05:00:56 PM  
2 votes:
Please win! Please sue Fox News too and win!
2014-03-31 04:22:34 PM  
2 votes:
A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.
2014-03-31 04:16:20 PM  
2 votes:
www.abload.de
2014-03-31 03:45:17 PM  
2 votes:
Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!
2014-04-01 12:03:07 AM  
1 vote:

Nutsac_Jim: 100 Watt Walrus: OnlyM3: cman [TotalFark]
2014-03-31 03:34:28 PM


Beck is a moran.
Agreed. So are the 4dozen total farkers who swore it was done by the Tea Party and even bet that it would not be a member of islam.

None of those morons are on regularly TV deliberately lying to rile up the kind of farktards whose entire world view is shaped by Fox News.

Those "4dozen" farkers don't do 1/1000000000th the harm Beck does to national discourse.

This sounds an awful lot like "I can be racist but you can not because my number is smaller"


Go fuk yourself scumfuker, as you defend those that do this that have a national stage, and pretend it's justified because some assholes on a website do the same thing for the "other side" as if it is in some way equal, and even comparable.
2014-03-31 10:34:12 PM  
1 vote:

Rhaab: machoprogrammer: TINSTAAVC?

Took me a moment to work it out. I think he's saying "There Is No Such Thing As A Violent Christian", which I do believe has been falsely claimed by right-wingers more than once.


Hmm. That's going to make explaining what religion all those people in the supermax prisons belong to.

TerminalEchoes: MayoSlather: A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.

If only i had a chalk board so that I could illustrate every time you've stated this tired, old, and debunked accusation. Grow up. Seriously.


I don't think that's ever been "debunked." I think you'll need to find a new adjective to white knight with. Plenty of accurate and proper ones are out there just waiting for you to discover them.
2014-03-31 10:00:01 PM  
1 vote:
It couldn't have happened to a nicer fellow.
2014-03-31 09:52:05 PM  
1 vote:

FloridaFarkTag: DeathByGeekSquad: He should widen the case, it wasn't just Glenn Beck.  During the initial hours, names were flying everywhere - and articles were being released with those names because everyone was trying to get 'the scoop'.  They later edited out the names, and blamed social media.

True...Beck was one of many tagging this guy as guilty. Beck was one of a myriad in media doing this

Which means this Saudi national does not have a slam dunk case...and looks like Beck is singled out because he has more $$$ and listeners/viewers


Or because he *kept* claiming it *after* the police had cleared the guy. That's where he crossed the line between "shoddy journalism" and "intentional character assassination for profit". The non-Faux news agencies backed down once the guy was cleared, including a good number of them issuing apologies and corrections for screwing up.
2014-03-31 09:47:36 PM  
1 vote:

Nutsac_Jim: This sounds an awful lot like "I can be racist but you can not because my number is smaller"


And all racists are not equal. The racist running for state office has more influence than the racist who fills the Pepsi machine at the office, who has more influence than the old lady at the nursing home who won't be treated by a colored. If you demand that someone devote energy to the lady at the nursing home before they are allowed to devote energy to the guy running for office, you are attempting to deflect from the real issue for some reason.
2014-03-31 08:30:30 PM  
1 vote:

Nemo's Brother: Bith Set Me Up: It's sickening how Pavlovian it is assuming a Middle Easterner and/or Muslim is behind every major crime. When Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City, everybody assumed a Middle Easterner was responsible, with the FBI calling for Arabic translators.

Our whole society has been taught to only view Middle Easterners and Muslims with distrust and scorn. That needs to change.

We're with you, Mr. Alharbi. Break Beck's ass into pieces.

During the Boston bombing, the shooting at Fort Hood and the attempted Times Square bombing, the Total Fark left were engaging in circle jokes, praying to their large government god that it was a white Tea Bagger.


Do you ever get ashamed or disappointed in yourself that you endlessly,ceaselessly and in your worthless skull importantly compare actual important shiat to this dumb website run by a turd? And as a follow-up: If you don't, have you ever thought maybe you should?
2014-03-31 08:04:40 PM  
1 vote:

Rhaab: Baz744: As your post proves, questions about the young girl he may have raped and murdered in 1992 still haven't gone away.

Wait, there was a Glenn Beck rape/murder in 1992 in addition to the Glenn Beck rape/murder in 1990?
Does Glenn Beck give in to an uncontrollable compulsion to rape and murder little girls in every even-numbered year?

I'm just asking questions!


Oh my God...that would mean that there's some poor innocent girl who's been in a shallow grave since 1994, and we haven't found her yet!  That may just be the saddest thing I've read today.  That poor girl.  When will she ever get justice?

/what a horrible man he is
//the astute reader will notice that "he" does not have a referent
///THAT's how you do libel
2014-03-31 07:19:06 PM  
1 vote:

TerminalEchoes: MayoSlather: A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.

If only i had a chalk board so that I could illustrate every time you've stated this tired, old, and debunked accusation. Grow up. Seriously.


Debunked?

How could it be debunked when Glenn Beck won't even deny it?
2014-03-31 06:56:30 PM  
1 vote:

Nemo's Brother: During the Boston bombing, the shooting at Fort Hood and the attempted Times Square bombing, the Total Fark left were engaging in circle jokes, praying to their large government god that it was a white Tea Bagger.


Which of course is bunk, because TINSTAAVC.
2014-03-31 06:56:22 PM  
1 vote:
Please sue Glenn Beck back into obscurity. Please.
2014-03-31 06:24:43 PM  
1 vote:

Nemo's Brother: Bith Set Me Up: It's sickening how Pavlovian it is assuming a Middle Easterner and/or Muslim is behind every major crime. When Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City, everybody assumed a Middle Easterner was responsible, with the FBI calling for Arabic translators.

Our whole society has been taught to only view Middle Easterners and Muslims with distrust and scorn. That needs to change.

We're with you, Mr. Alharbi. Break Beck's ass into pieces.

During the Boston bombing, the shooting at Fort Hood and the attempted Times Square bombing, the Total Fark left were engaging in circle jokes, praying to their large government god that it was a white Tea Bagger.


The far left hoped it was a Caucasian. The far right hoped it was a Middle Easterner and/or Muslim. In the end, they each got a bit of both.
2014-03-31 06:21:59 PM  
1 vote:

Nemo's Brother: attempted Times Square bombing


Little known fact: the reason that was an "attempted" bombing, and not just a "bombing," was because an alert Muslim citizen saw it and alerted the authorities.
2014-03-31 06:21:32 PM  
1 vote:

pute kisses like a man: LazyMedia: pute kisses like a man: malice is a term of art.  it's not precisely a psychological determination, it's a word used that has a legal description.  generally, malice in the defamation context can be shown by knowingly false statements, or statements made with a reckless disregard for the truth.

the reason they allege 'with malice' is because that's a requirement to overcome 1st amendment protections, because this arises out of a public concern/issue.

You don't have to prove malice in a libel suit involving a defamed private person, only with public figures. For libel to proved in this case, all they have to show is that Beck made a false, defamatory statement. No need to prove anything else. The "actual malice' standard comes from New York Times. v. Sullivan, where the paper successfully defended itself because Sullivan was a public figure, even though they printed false, defamatory things about him.

Beck's lawyers will probably argue that since they didn't name the plaintiff, he wasn't defamed. They're gonna lose; the guy was widely identified by name in news accounts, and Beck's listeners knew exactly who he was talking about. It's just a matter of how much the case will settle for at this point.

i think it's closer than you think.  while he is a private figure, it's on a public issue.  in my hypothetical and uninformed opinion, i would argue and likely concede that this is a private actor/private issue, but i can also see the argument that this was an issue of public concern. when private actors are involved in issues of public concern, then the malice standard, as if it were a public actor, applies.

either way, they probably plead both alternatively.


No, you're wrong about that. I took a class on this in college, and in brushing up, I find I'm still correct about actual malice. A private person does not become a public figure for a single instance unless "they have thrust themselves to the forefront of particular controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved." Simply being an innocent bystander, or even a police suspect, in a case of great public interest doesn't make you a public figure, and thus you don't have to overcome the actual malice standard for false, defamatory statements like the ones Beck made.

What you're thinking of, I think, is invasion of privacy. Individuals who are involved in matters of public concern do lose some of their privacy rights. I can't take a picture of you standing in your front yard and run it in the paper, but I can if your house is on fire.
2014-03-31 06:09:14 PM  
1 vote:
I hope Redditt gets sued, then, too
2014-03-31 06:01:57 PM  
1 vote:

TheShavingofOccam123: And this is why there are black members of the LDS priesthood now. Talking nasty about people and treating them badly is all fine and good. Until they lawyer up.

Enjoy writing the retraction Glenn.

You might want to read up on Jerry Falwell's apology for blaming the queers for the 9/11 attacks. You're going to end up having to issue a similar apology.


I'm still furious about how gay marriage has kept solar energy away from us (NSFW language).
2014-03-31 05:57:44 PM  
1 vote:

MayoSlather: A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.


It makes me wonder if Beck himself had something to do with the Boston bombing, since he worked so hard to exploit it for his own aggrandizement after it happened.

I'm not saying whether or not Glen Beck financed or otherwise played an active role in the Boston bombing. I'm just asking the question. Did he finance or otherwise play an active role in the Boston bombing? He certainly had motive to.

So far, he hasn't answered. It's almost like he's afraid to answer it.

But he of all people should know the folly of not issuing a prompt denial. As your post proves, questions about the young girl he may have raped and murdered in 1992 still haven't gone away.

He might--might--be afraid of losing his credibility should he issue a denial, only to have someone who has been holding back on unassailable evidence come out and prove his denial false.

Is guilt then a fair inference from his refusal to answer questions about the young girl he may have raped and murdered in 1992, and about his financial or otherwise active involvement in the Boston bombing?

Is Glenn Beck a rapist and a terrorist? Why won't he just say "no" and clear the air?
2014-03-31 05:57:11 PM  
1 vote:
Please go to public trial...
Please pretty please go to public trial....

With sugar on top?
2014-03-31 05:55:07 PM  
1 vote:
And this is why there are black members of the LDS priesthood now. Talking nasty about people and treating them badly is all fine and good. Until they lawyer up.

Enjoy writing the retraction Glenn.

You might want to read up on Jerry Falwell's apology for blaming the queers for the 9/11 attacks. You're going to end up having to issue a similar apology.
2014-03-31 05:45:01 PM  
1 vote:

FloridaFarkTag: DeathByGeekSquad: He should widen the case, it wasn't just Glenn Beck.  During the initial hours, names were flying everywhere - and articles were being released with those names because everyone was trying to get 'the scoop'.  They later edited out the names, and blamed social media.

True...Beck was one of many tagging this guy as guilty. Beck was one of a myriad in media doing this

Which means this Saudi national does not have a slam dunk case...and looks like Beck is singled out because he has more $$$ and listeners/viewers


That doesn't really matter. If news outlets reported accurately that the guy was questioned by police, that's not libelous. They could even say he was a suspect (everybody was a suspect). Beck went WAY beyond that, and made flat statements that the Saudi was a bad guy, and questioned the motivations behind his not being arrested. Nobody anywhere else went that far, although some Fox pundits probably came the closest in their Weeners.
2014-03-31 05:39:01 PM  
1 vote:

DeathByGeekSquad: He should widen the case, it wasn't just Glenn Beck.  During the initial hours, names were flying everywhere - and articles were being released with those names because everyone was trying to get 'the scoop'.  They later edited out the names, and blamed social media.


True...Beck was one of many tagging this guy as guilty. Beck was one of a myriad in media doing this

Which means this Saudi national does not have a slam dunk case...and looks like Beck is singled out because he has more $$$ and listeners/viewers
2014-03-31 05:37:56 PM  
1 vote:

pute kisses like a man: malice is a term of art.  it's not precisely a psychological determination, it's a word used that has a legal description.  generally, malice in the defamation context can be shown by knowingly false statements, or statements made with a reckless disregard for the truth.

the reason they allege 'with malice' is because that's a requirement to overcome 1st amendment protections, because this arises out of a public concern/issue.


You don't have to prove malice in a libel suit involving a defamed private person, only with public figures. For libel to proved in this case, all they have to show is that Beck made a false, defamatory statement. No need to prove anything else. The "actual malice' standard comes from New York Times. v. Sullivan, where the paper successfully defended itself because Sullivan was a public figure, even though they printed false, defamatory things about him.

Beck's lawyers will probably argue that since they didn't name the plaintiff, he wasn't defamed. They're gonna lose; the guy was widely identified by name in news accounts, and Beck's listeners knew exactly who he was talking about. It's just a matter of how much the case will settle for at this point.
2014-03-31 05:08:53 PM  
1 vote:
It's depressing that he has that much money in the first place.
What a world.
2014-03-31 05:07:45 PM  
1 vote:

OtherLittleGuy: That's what he WANTS you to think. Otherwise, he would have had a good Murrican name like Billybob Jones.


Tim McVeigh is pretty darn 'Merkan.
2014-03-31 05:05:51 PM  
1 vote:
Crushing Glenn Beck would be an awesome inadvertent benefit of the Marathon bombings. Good luck, kid.
2014-03-31 04:50:27 PM  
1 vote:
Good for him.
2014-03-31 03:55:51 PM  
1 vote:
"We have information on who this man is, (and) we know he is a very bad, bad, bad man."

I read that in Babu's voice.

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2014-03-31 03:34:28 PM  
1 vote:
Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.
 
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