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(The Raw Story)   Abdulrahman Alharbi files a $20 million defamation suit against Glenn Beck and his media company because Beck repeatedly accused him of being responsible for the Boston Marathon attacks, when in fact he was actually a victim of them   (rawstory.com ) divider line
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2014-03-31 03:27:46 PM  
That's what he WANTS you to think. Otherwise, he would have had a good Murrican name like Billybob Jones.
 
2014-03-31 03:34:28 PM  
Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.
 
2014-03-31 03:45:17 PM  
Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!
 
2014-03-31 03:47:37 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-31 03:49:33 PM  

cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.


The only thing that could truly cause emotional distress in Beck is rational thought. No one will buy that argument
 
2014-03-31 03:53:25 PM  

cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.


Rebuttal: Everything that Glenn Beck says is said in malice. Everything.
 
2014-03-31 03:55:51 PM  
"We have information on who this man is, (and) we know he is a very bad, bad, bad man."

I read that in Babu's voice.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-31 03:56:26 PM  

scottydoesntknow: cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.

Rebuttal: Everything that Glenn Beck says is said in malice. Everything.


"You're out of order!  You're out of order! The  whole trial is out of order!  They're out of order!"
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-31 04:03:36 PM  
www.joblo.com
 
2014-03-31 04:04:24 PM  

gunslinger_RG: Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!


THIS
It would be awesome to strip that fatass bare of assets.
MY GUESS is that his assets are well hidden.
 
2014-03-31 04:06:30 PM  

namatad: gunslinger_RG: Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!

THIS
It would be awesome to strip that fatass bare of assets.
MY GUESS is that his assets are well hidden.


My guess is that all his assets are tied up in that GTB internet channel.
 
2014-03-31 04:07:41 PM  

namatad: gunslinger_RG: Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!

THIS
It would be awesome to strip that fatass bare of assets.
MY GUESS is that his assets are well hidden.


Well he has been hoarding gold.
 
2014-03-31 04:16:20 PM  
www.abload.de
 
2014-03-31 04:22:34 PM  
A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.
 
2014-03-31 04:24:53 PM  
www.currybet.net
 
2014-03-31 04:46:43 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.

The only thing that could truly cause emotional distress in Beck is rational thought. No one will buy that argument


Break out the Vapo Rub.
 
2014-03-31 04:50:27 PM  
Good for him.
 
2014-03-31 04:51:39 PM  
Race spectator Abdulrahman Alharbi

Dammit, I just knew he'd try to make this about race!
 
2014-03-31 04:59:04 PM  

IgG4: [www.abload.de image 340x348]


Game for grumpycatgood.jpg, leaving satisfied.

+1 would read again.
 
2014-03-31 04:59:37 PM  

namatad: gunslinger_RG: Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!

THIS
It would be awesome to strip that fatass bare of assets.
MY GUESS is that his assets are well hidden.


Eh, I'm sure Glenn Beck has millions of dollars of libel insurance. Pretty much every media outlet does, and he needs it more than most.
 
2014-03-31 05:00:56 PM  
Please win! Please sue Fox News too and win!
 
2014-03-31 05:02:14 PM  

cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.


You don't have to prove actual malice in a libel case involving a private citizen. That standard's only for public figures, which this Saudi kid definitely wasn't/isn't. I'm just surprised Beck's insurance company hasn't already settled; the plaintiff's lawyer must smell mega-verdict.
 
2014-03-31 05:03:07 PM  
Maybe Glenn Beck was just picking up the slack from Louis CK's SNL monologue.
 
2014-03-31 05:03:12 PM  
Good. I hope he wins. Glenn Beck is a major douchenozzle.
 
2014-03-31 05:03:37 PM  

LazyMedia: namatad: gunslinger_RG: Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!

THIS
It would be awesome to strip that fatass bare of assets.
MY GUESS is that his assets are well hidden.

Eh, I'm sure Glenn Beck has millions of dollars of libel insurance. Pretty much every media outlet does, and he needs it more than most.


I was thinking that was one of the reasons Fox News cut him loose.
 
2014-03-31 05:04:43 PM  
Is Bostonghazigate a scandal, yet?
 
2014-03-31 05:04:48 PM  
I thought the Glen Beck died of a heart attack a couple of years ago .
 
2014-03-31 05:04:54 PM  
themoderatevoice.com
 
2014-03-31 05:04:59 PM  
He should widen the case, it wasn't just Glenn Beck.  During the initial hours, names were flying everywhere - and articles were being released with those names because everyone was trying to get 'the scoop'.  They later edited out the names, and blamed social media.
 
2014-03-31 05:05:51 PM  
Crushing Glenn Beck would be an awesome inadvertent benefit of the Marathon bombings. Good luck, kid.
 
2014-03-31 05:06:31 PM  
This should put a big dent in Beck's cocaine budget.
 
2014-03-31 05:07:45 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: That's what he WANTS you to think. Otherwise, he would have had a good Murrican name like Billybob Jones.


Tim McVeigh is pretty darn 'Merkan.
 
2014-03-31 05:08:19 PM  

RottenEggs: I thought the Glen Beck died of a heart attack a couple of years ago .


No one told his brain.
 
2014-03-31 05:08:53 PM  
But he's a journalist.  You cant sue journalists.

MAH FURST AMENDMENT RAGHTS! FREEDUMB OF THE PRESS!
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2014-03-31 05:08:53 PM  
It's depressing that he has that much money in the first place.
What a world.
 
2014-03-31 05:10:04 PM  
All Beck's lawyer has to do is say if this kid hadn't written the Necronomicon, he'd be fine today.
 
2014-03-31 05:10:05 PM  
Wait, isn't he that guy who raped and killed that girl a few years back?
 
2014-03-31 05:10:34 PM  

cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.


Well, it reminded me of a certain day in 1990 that Glenn Beck still refuses to answer questions about. . .

/Good luck stoking the flames!
//Because there are no trolls on Fark!
 
2014-03-31 05:11:09 PM  
We're rooting for you, Mr. Alharbi. Nail him to the wall.


If Glenn Beck isn't sucking off ponies twice a week, why won't he just say that he isn't so we can all move on?
I'm just asking questions!
 
2014-03-31 05:12:35 PM  
I hope this doesn't make Beck cry
 
2014-03-31 05:12:36 PM  

RottenEggs: I thought the Glen Beck died of a heart attack a couple of years ago .


That's what they want you to think.
 
2014-03-31 05:12:49 PM  
Anyone get the feeling someone might be trying to distract the public away from something that he may or may not have done in 1990? Maybe the fact that he has never, ever responded to rumors that he raped and murdered a girl. Never once given a convincing alibi. Never offered to take a lie detector. Never even agreed to sit down with investigators.

Seems awfully suspicious to me.
 
2014-03-31 05:13:57 PM  
He should demand that the damages be paid in Gold since Beck maintains that US currency is no good.
 
2014-03-31 05:20:14 PM  

cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.


malice is a term of art.  it's not precisely a psychological determination, it's a word used that has a legal description.  generally, malice in the defamation context can be shown by knowingly false statements, or statements made with a reckless disregard for the truth.

the reason they allege 'with malice' is because that's a requirement to overcome 1st amendment protections, because this arises out of a public concern/issue.
 
2014-03-31 05:23:22 PM  
The guy may have a good case.  We will see.
 
2014-03-31 05:23:36 PM  
Sheldon Adelson should just write a check for it, since he's well acquainted with paying for Mormons losing things.
 
2014-03-31 05:30:06 PM  

BitwiseShift: Sheldon Adelson should just write a check for it, since he's well acquainted with paying for Mormons losing things.


Was wondering where you were going there, but damn if you didn't stick the landing.

Good work.
 
2014-03-31 05:32:20 PM  

SquiggsIN: Diogenes: "We have information on who this man is, (and) we know he is a very bad, bad, bad man."

I read that in Babu's voice.

[i.imgur.com image 460x325]

Dr. Koothrapali?


I wonder if he and the Mrs. will ever visit.
 
2014-03-31 05:33:20 PM  
Abdulrahman Alharbi, if that is his real name, is an anagram of 'had barbarian mullah' AND 'Ha! Hurl banal barmaid'.  For all we know, these people call an IED a 'barmaid'.

These things aren't just accidents.  Study it out!
 
2014-03-31 05:33:58 PM  
It's sickening how Pavlovian it is assuming a Middle Easterner and/or Muslim is behind every major crime. When Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City, everybody assumed a Middle Easterner was responsible, with the FBI calling for Arabic translators.

Our whole society has been taught to only view Middle Easterners and Muslims with distrust and scorn. That needs to change.

We're with you, Mr. Alharbi. Break Beck's ass into pieces.
 
2014-03-31 05:37:56 PM  

pute kisses like a man: malice is a term of art.  it's not precisely a psychological determination, it's a word used that has a legal description.  generally, malice in the defamation context can be shown by knowingly false statements, or statements made with a reckless disregard for the truth.

the reason they allege 'with malice' is because that's a requirement to overcome 1st amendment protections, because this arises out of a public concern/issue.


You don't have to prove malice in a libel suit involving a defamed private person, only with public figures. For libel to proved in this case, all they have to show is that Beck made a false, defamatory statement. No need to prove anything else. The "actual malice' standard comes from New York Times. v. Sullivan, where the paper successfully defended itself because Sullivan was a public figure, even though they printed false, defamatory things about him.

Beck's lawyers will probably argue that since they didn't name the plaintiff, he wasn't defamed. They're gonna lose; the guy was widely identified by name in news accounts, and Beck's listeners knew exactly who he was talking about. It's just a matter of how much the case will settle for at this point.
 
2014-03-31 05:39:01 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: He should widen the case, it wasn't just Glenn Beck.  During the initial hours, names were flying everywhere - and articles were being released with those names because everyone was trying to get 'the scoop'.  They later edited out the names, and blamed social media.


True...Beck was one of many tagging this guy as guilty. Beck was one of a myriad in media doing this

Which means this Saudi national does not have a slam dunk case...and looks like Beck is singled out because he has more $$$ and listeners/viewers
 
2014-03-31 05:40:30 PM  

gunslinger_RG: Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!


I see Glenn Beck as more of a grown up Eric Cartman, and would like it to be more like the end of Cartmanland, where he's financially ruined and facing mounting lawsuits, broke and screaming to the heavens about how God is smiting him.
 
2014-03-31 05:41:33 PM  

Silverstaff: gunslinger_RG: Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!

I see Glenn Beck as more of a grown up Eric Cartman, and would like it to be more like the end of Cartmanland, where he's financially ruined and facing mounting lawsuits, broke and screaming to the heavens about how God is smiting him.


As long as someone gets to pepper spray him at the end, I'll be very happy with this outcome.
 
2014-03-31 05:44:07 PM  
"We have information on who this man is, (and) we know he is a very bad, bad, bad man."


Clearly actionable.   Also,much worse than saying Romney never pays his taxes.
 
2014-03-31 05:45:01 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: DeathByGeekSquad: He should widen the case, it wasn't just Glenn Beck.  During the initial hours, names were flying everywhere - and articles were being released with those names because everyone was trying to get 'the scoop'.  They later edited out the names, and blamed social media.

True...Beck was one of many tagging this guy as guilty. Beck was one of a myriad in media doing this

Which means this Saudi national does not have a slam dunk case...and looks like Beck is singled out because he has more $$$ and listeners/viewers


That doesn't really matter. If news outlets reported accurately that the guy was questioned by police, that's not libelous. They could even say he was a suspect (everybody was a suspect). Beck went WAY beyond that, and made flat statements that the Saudi was a bad guy, and questioned the motivations behind his not being arrested. Nobody anywhere else went that far, although some Fox pundits probably came the closest in their Weeners.
 
2014-03-31 05:45:20 PM  

LazyMedia: Beck's lawyers will probably argue that since they didn't name the plaintiff, he wasn't defamed. They're gonna lose; the guy was widely identified by name in news accounts, and Beck's listeners knew exactly who he was talking about. It's just a matter of how much the case will settle for at this point.


Part of me wonders whether the Beckerheads will try to litigate this thing in public - make it about MAH FREEDUMBS AND FIRST AMENDMENTS and get Glenn all lubed up with tears while making appearances with that Duck feller what made liberals sad for being Christian in public.

See if that can't get him back to Fox.

// or relevancy
 
2014-03-31 05:50:57 PM  

Dr Dreidel: LazyMedia: Beck's lawyers will probably argue that since they didn't name the plaintiff, he wasn't defamed. They're gonna lose; the guy was widely identified by name in news accounts, and Beck's listeners knew exactly who he was talking about. It's just a matter of how much the case will settle for at this point.

Part of me wonders whether the Beckerheads will try to litigate this thing in public - make it about MAH FREEDUMBS AND FIRST AMENDMENTS and get Glenn all lubed up with tears while making appearances with that Duck feller what made liberals sad for being Christian in public.

See if that can't get him back to Fox.

// or relevancy


I doubt his lawyers would let him do it, as that would just restate the libel. He's going to have to Paula Deen it a little to minimize the amount he's going to have to pay.

/Speaking of people who should have settled before being deposed.
 
2014-03-31 05:52:27 PM  

SquiggsIN: I've started to question whether Beck even believes what he says.  How much money would it take one of you to completely sell out?  I'm guessing Beck probably has more in offshore accounts than it'd take most of us to make a deal with the devil, so to speak.


He is an entertainer if anything.
 
2014-03-31 05:53:36 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Unfortunately, it settles out of court with a non-disclosure so we'll never know exactly how big an extra hole Beck gets ripped.
 
2014-03-31 05:54:53 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: DeathByGeekSquad: He should widen the case, it wasn't just Glenn Beck.  During the initial hours, names were flying everywhere - and articles were being released with those names because everyone was trying to get 'the scoop'.  They later edited out the names, and blamed social media.

True...Beck was one of many tagging this guy as guilty a suspect. Beck was one of a myriad in media doing this

Which means this Saudi national does not have a slam dunk case...and looks like Beck is singled out because he has more $$$ and listeners/viewers outside of the derposphere, calling someone guilty and lying about having supporting evidence is not the same as calling someone a "suspect" or "person of interest."


FTFT. Your hero went full potato again, but this time someone's doing something about it.
 
2014-03-31 05:55:07 PM  
And this is why there are black members of the LDS priesthood now. Talking nasty about people and treating them badly is all fine and good. Until they lawyer up.

Enjoy writing the retraction Glenn.

You might want to read up on Jerry Falwell's apology for blaming the queers for the 9/11 attacks. You're going to end up having to issue a similar apology.
 
2014-03-31 05:57:11 PM  
Please go to public trial...
Please pretty please go to public trial....

With sugar on top?
 
2014-03-31 05:57:44 PM  

MayoSlather: A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.


It makes me wonder if Beck himself had something to do with the Boston bombing, since he worked so hard to exploit it for his own aggrandizement after it happened.

I'm not saying whether or not Glen Beck financed or otherwise played an active role in the Boston bombing. I'm just asking the question. Did he finance or otherwise play an active role in the Boston bombing? He certainly had motive to.

So far, he hasn't answered. It's almost like he's afraid to answer it.

But he of all people should know the folly of not issuing a prompt denial. As your post proves, questions about the young girl he may have raped and murdered in 1992 still haven't gone away.

He might--might--be afraid of losing his credibility should he issue a denial, only to have someone who has been holding back on unassailable evidence come out and prove his denial false.

Is guilt then a fair inference from his refusal to answer questions about the young girl he may have raped and murdered in 1992, and about his financial or otherwise active involvement in the Boston bombing?

Is Glenn Beck a rapist and a terrorist? Why won't he just say "no" and clear the air?
 
2014-03-31 05:59:04 PM  

SquiggsIN: Jument: Wait, isn't he that guy who raped and killed that girl a few years back?

[img.fark.net image 534x594]

Are these the usual suspects?


I just realized that Bob Saget should totally play a serial killer on Hannibal.
 
2014-03-31 06:00:14 PM  
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If there is a King of that Commonweath of Morons it's Glenn Beck.
 
2014-03-31 06:00:49 PM  
Well, what do y'all expect when an idiot starts his mouth going before his brain is in gear?
 
2014-03-31 06:01:57 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: And this is why there are black members of the LDS priesthood now. Talking nasty about people and treating them badly is all fine and good. Until they lawyer up.

Enjoy writing the retraction Glenn.

You might want to read up on Jerry Falwell's apology for blaming the queers for the 9/11 attacks. You're going to end up having to issue a similar apology.


I'm still furious about how gay marriage has kept solar energy away from us (NSFW language).
 
2014-03-31 06:03:46 PM  
Ok so let's say for the sake of arguing that this guy wasn't involved in the boston attack... Once he had Glenn beck's millions, what's to stop him from using that money to finance even bigger terrorist attacks?
 
2014-03-31 06:05:02 PM  

SquiggsIN: I've started to question whether Beck even believes what he says.  How much money would it take one of you to completely sell out?  I'm guessing Beck probably has more in offshore accounts than it'd take most of us to make a deal with the devil, so to speak.


He probably has three times as much money hidden away as the the money the devil would have to pay to let Rosie O'Donnell sodomize them with a strap-on in a room with non-matching drapes and flooring while Billy Ray Cyrus blares through nearby speakers at full volume.  (with a hobo recording it at a bad angle the whole time)
 
2014-03-31 06:06:33 PM  

K3rmy: SquiggsIN: I've started to question whether Beck even believes what he says.  How much money would it take one of you to completely sell out?  I'm guessing Beck probably has more in offshore accounts than it'd take most of us to make a deal with the devil, so to speak.

He probably has three times as much money hidden away as the the money the devil would have to pay all of the gays in San Francisco to let Rosie O'Donnell sodomize them with a strap-on in a room with non-matching drapes and flooring while Billy Ray Cyrus blares through nearby speakers at full volume.  (with a hobo recording it at a bad angle the whole time)


Forgot that part.

No matter.

Still only 6 dollars.
 
2014-03-31 06:07:30 PM  
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2014-03-31 06:08:52 PM  

cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.


You can't accuse someone of a horrible crime if it's not true. This is what defamation laws were made for. Did that kid that was fall accused of the new town shooting everywhere up because he's due for a serious payday from multiple news stations
 
2014-03-31 06:09:14 PM  
I hope Redditt gets sued, then, too
 
2014-03-31 06:10:35 PM  

LazyMedia: pute kisses like a man: malice is a term of art.  it's not precisely a psychological determination, it's a word used that has a legal description.  generally, malice in the defamation context can be shown by knowingly false statements, or statements made with a reckless disregard for the truth.

the reason they allege 'with malice' is because that's a requirement to overcome 1st amendment protections, because this arises out of a public concern/issue.

You don't have to prove malice in a libel suit involving a defamed private person, only with public figures. For libel to proved in this case, all they have to show is that Beck made a false, defamatory statement. No need to prove anything else. The "actual malice' standard comes from New York Times. v. Sullivan, where the paper successfully defended itself because Sullivan was a public figure, even though they printed false, defamatory things about him.

Beck's lawyers will probably argue that since they didn't name the plaintiff, he wasn't defamed. They're gonna lose; the guy was widely identified by name in news accounts, and Beck's listeners knew exactly who he was talking about. It's just a matter of how much the case will settle for at this point.


i think it's closer than you think.  while he is a private figure, it's on a public issue.  in my hypothetical and uninformed opinion, i would argue and likely concede that this is a private actor/private issue, but i can also see the argument that this was an issue of public concern. when private actors are involved in issues of public concern, then the malice standard, as if it were a public actor, applies.

either way, they probably plead both alternatively.
 
2014-03-31 06:13:02 PM  

Baz744: As your post proves, questions about the young girl he may have raped and murdered in 1992 still haven't gone away.


Wait, there was a Glenn Beck rape/murder in 1992 in addition to the Glenn Beck rape/murder in 1990?
Does Glenn Beck give in to an uncontrollable compulsion to rape and murder little girls in every even-numbered year?

I'm just asking questions!
 
2014-03-31 06:13:56 PM  

Warlordtrooper: cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.

You can't accuse someone of a horrible crime if it's not true. This is what defamation laws were made for. Did that kid that was fall accused of the new town shooting everywhere up because he's due for a serious payday from multiple news stations


Journalists can, however, repeat a false accusation if the police or prosecutors make it; that's called "privilege." That's how the Atlanta Journal-Constitution avoided losing a libel case against Richard Jewell. All they did was say he was the lead suspect (and he was; the cops just screwed up the case). The networks that paid through the nose to Jewell libeled him in commentary; if they'd stuck to the facts followed by "police said," they'd have been OK.
 
2014-03-31 06:15:27 PM  

Gyrfalcon: All Beck's lawyer has to do is say if this kid hadn't written the Necronomicon, he'd be fine today.


+1000 for the Lovecraft reference.
 
2014-03-31 06:19:52 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: It's sickening how Pavlovian it is assuming a Middle Easterner and/or Muslim is behind every major crime. When Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City, everybody assumed a Middle Easterner was responsible, with the FBI calling for Arabic translators.

Our whole society has been taught to only view Middle Easterners and Muslims with distrust and scorn. That needs to change.

We're with you, Mr. Alharbi. Break Beck's ass into pieces.


During the Boston bombing, the shooting at Fort Hood and the attempted Times Square bombing, the Total Fark left were engaging in circle jokes, praying to their large government god that it was a white Tea Bagger.
 
2014-03-31 06:21:32 PM  

pute kisses like a man: LazyMedia: pute kisses like a man: malice is a term of art.  it's not precisely a psychological determination, it's a word used that has a legal description.  generally, malice in the defamation context can be shown by knowingly false statements, or statements made with a reckless disregard for the truth.

the reason they allege 'with malice' is because that's a requirement to overcome 1st amendment protections, because this arises out of a public concern/issue.

You don't have to prove malice in a libel suit involving a defamed private person, only with public figures. For libel to proved in this case, all they have to show is that Beck made a false, defamatory statement. No need to prove anything else. The "actual malice' standard comes from New York Times. v. Sullivan, where the paper successfully defended itself because Sullivan was a public figure, even though they printed false, defamatory things about him.

Beck's lawyers will probably argue that since they didn't name the plaintiff, he wasn't defamed. They're gonna lose; the guy was widely identified by name in news accounts, and Beck's listeners knew exactly who he was talking about. It's just a matter of how much the case will settle for at this point.

i think it's closer than you think.  while he is a private figure, it's on a public issue.  in my hypothetical and uninformed opinion, i would argue and likely concede that this is a private actor/private issue, but i can also see the argument that this was an issue of public concern. when private actors are involved in issues of public concern, then the malice standard, as if it were a public actor, applies.

either way, they probably plead both alternatively.


No, you're wrong about that. I took a class on this in college, and in brushing up, I find I'm still correct about actual malice. A private person does not become a public figure for a single instance unless "they have thrust themselves to the forefront of particular controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved." Simply being an innocent bystander, or even a police suspect, in a case of great public interest doesn't make you a public figure, and thus you don't have to overcome the actual malice standard for false, defamatory statements like the ones Beck made.

What you're thinking of, I think, is invasion of privacy. Individuals who are involved in matters of public concern do lose some of their privacy rights. I can't take a picture of you standing in your front yard and run it in the paper, but I can if your house is on fire.
 
2014-03-31 06:21:59 PM  

Nemo's Brother: attempted Times Square bombing


Little known fact: the reason that was an "attempted" bombing, and not just a "bombing," was because an alert Muslim citizen saw it and alerted the authorities.
 
2014-03-31 06:22:19 PM  
hurr I liek Glenn Beck
Glenn Beck is pretty entertaining
durr
 
2014-03-31 06:24:43 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Bith Set Me Up: It's sickening how Pavlovian it is assuming a Middle Easterner and/or Muslim is behind every major crime. When Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City, everybody assumed a Middle Easterner was responsible, with the FBI calling for Arabic translators.

Our whole society has been taught to only view Middle Easterners and Muslims with distrust and scorn. That needs to change.

We're with you, Mr. Alharbi. Break Beck's ass into pieces.

During the Boston bombing, the shooting at Fort Hood and the attempted Times Square bombing, the Total Fark left were engaging in circle jokes, praying to their large government god that it was a white Tea Bagger.


The far left hoped it was a Caucasian. The far right hoped it was a Middle Easterner and/or Muslim. In the end, they each got a bit of both.
 
2014-03-31 06:29:41 PM  
cman [TotalFark]
2014-03-31 03:34:28 PM


Beck is a moran.

Agreed. So are the 4dozen total farkers who swore it was done by the Tea Party and even bet that it would not be a member of islam.
 
2014-03-31 06:34:17 PM  

LazyMedia: I can't take a picture of you standing in your front yard and run it in the paper, but I can if your house is on fire.


Would you at least tell him his house is on fire? I mean come on. Dude's house is burning down behind him. He seems oblivious. And you just snap a pic and move on?
 
2014-03-31 06:44:22 PM  
And Popehat has just sided with Glenn Beck in protecting his constitutionally protected right to call this guy a terrorist.

/I'm sorry, I'm just wondering why Ken is backing Mark Steyn of NRO on a lawsuit from Michael Mann over climate change, despite the fact that Steyn is now acting as his own attorney, likely to use the resulting loss as proof the government is in on the "warmer" conspiracy...
//No, I really don't understand it...he's even linked to a fund supporting Steyn. Thus the joke.
 
2014-03-31 06:56:22 PM  
Please sue Glenn Beck back into obscurity. Please.
 
2014-03-31 06:56:30 PM  

Nemo's Brother: During the Boston bombing, the shooting at Fort Hood and the attempted Times Square bombing, the Total Fark left were engaging in circle jokes, praying to their large government god that it was a white Tea Bagger.


Which of course is bunk, because TINSTAAVC.
 
2014-03-31 06:57:07 PM  
(by the way, "circle jokes"?  nice!)
 
2014-03-31 07:00:39 PM  
Wow, If that's worth $20 mil, then NBC's edited police evidence will probably net  Zimmerman a couple hundred million.
 
2014-03-31 07:07:27 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Nemo's Brother: During the Boston bombing, the shooting at Fort Hood and the attempted Times Square bombing, the Total Fark left were engaging in circle jokes, praying to their large government god that it was a white Tea Bagger.

Which of course is bunk, because TINSTAAVC.


TINSTAAVC?
 
2014-03-31 07:10:37 PM  

LazyMedia: pute kisses like a man: LazyMedia: pute kisses like a man: malice is a term of art.  it's not precisely a psychological determination, it's a word used that has a legal description.  generally, malice in the defamation context can be shown by knowingly false statements, or statements made with a reckless disregard for the truth.

the reason they allege 'with malice' is because that's a requirement to overcome 1st amendment protections, because this arises out of a public concern/issue.

You don't have to prove malice in a libel suit involving a defamed private person, only with public figures. For libel to proved in this case, all they have to show is that Beck made a false, defamatory statement. No need to prove anything else. The "actual malice' standard comes from New York Times. v. Sullivan, where the paper successfully defended itself because Sullivan was a public figure, even though they printed false, defamatory things about him.

Beck's lawyers will probably argue that since they didn't name the plaintiff, he wasn't defamed. They're gonna lose; the guy was widely identified by name in news accounts, and Beck's listeners knew exactly who he was talking about. It's just a matter of how much the case will settle for at this point.

i think it's closer than you think.  while he is a private figure, it's on a public issue.  in my hypothetical and uninformed opinion, i would argue and likely concede that this is a private actor/private issue, but i can also see the argument that this was an issue of public concern. when private actors are involved in issues of public concern, then the malice standard, as if it were a public actor, applies.

either way, they probably plead both alternatively.

No, you're wrong about that. I took a class on this in college, and in brushing up, I find I'm still correct about actual malice. A private person does not become a public figure for a single instance unless "they have thrust themselves to the forefront of particular controve ...


You actually can become an involuntary public figure if you are a part of something particularly notorious and newsworthy.
 
2014-03-31 07:11:07 PM  

MayoSlather: A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.


If only i had a chalk board so that I could illustrate every time you've stated this tired, old, and debunked accusation. Grow up. Seriously.
 
2014-03-31 07:11:14 PM  
When it's absolutely, positively, indefensible...

img0.joyreactor.cc
 
2014-03-31 07:11:19 PM  
I'm dipping my Glen Beck Doll in a beaker of urine right now.
 
2014-03-31 07:15:12 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Wow, If that's worth $20 mil, then NBC's edited police evidence will probably net  Zimmerman a couple hundred million.


1/10, but only because I'm biting.

If only NBC had corrected the false reporting, apologized, and fired the responsible sound engineer, they could have minimized or eliminated entirely the possibility of a significant punitive damage award.
 
2014-03-31 07:15:37 PM  

machoprogrammer: TINSTAAVC?


Took me a moment to work it out. I think he's saying "There Is No Such Thing As A Violent Christian", which I do believe has been falsely claimed by right-wingers more than once.
 
2014-03-31 07:17:11 PM  

Silverstaff: gunslinger_RG: Is it wrong that I would love to see this guy take all the money he gets and post a youtube video of him rolling around in it, a la Eric Cartman, while going; "mmmm Beck's money mmmmm Beck's money aaaahhh Beck's Money".  I'd buy that for a dollar!

I see Glenn Beck as more of a grown up Eric Cartman, and would like it to be more like the end of Cartmanland, where he's financially ruined and facing mounting lawsuits, broke and screaming to the heavens about how God is smiting him.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-31 07:19:06 PM  

TerminalEchoes: MayoSlather: A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.

If only i had a chalk board so that I could illustrate every time you've stated this tired, old, and debunked accusation. Grow up. Seriously.


Debunked?

How could it be debunked when Glenn Beck won't even deny it?
 
2014-03-31 07:21:13 PM  

Rhaab: machoprogrammer: TINSTAAVC?

Took me a moment to work it out. I think he's saying "There Is No Such Thing As A Violent Christian", which I do believe has been falsely claimed by right-wingers more than once.


Ohh. Eric Rudolph would disprove that easily
 
2014-03-31 07:25:30 PM  

TerminalEchoes: MayoSlather: A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.

If only i had a chalk board so that I could illustrate every time you've stated this tired, old, and debunked accusation. Grow up. Seriously.


If only I had a chalk board to help explain this thing called "humor" to you.
 
2014-03-31 07:35:10 PM  

Gyrfalcon: All Beck's lawyer has to do is say if this kid hadn't written the Necronomicon, he'd be fine today.


Curse that Mad Arab! He was even so nefarious as to borrow 0b0ng0's Magical Time Machine!

/That is not derp which can eternal herp
 
2014-03-31 07:39:00 PM  
Beck is from Snoho county up here in the magnificent Evergreen state.  I apologize to the world.  Sorry we let him escape.  It would have been so easy to take him out to the woods for some malt liquor and shooting and an accident.  Had we known.
 
2014-03-31 07:40:53 PM  

rbuzby: Beck is from Snoho county up here in the magnificent Evergreen state.  I apologize to the world.  Sorry we let him escape.  It would have been so easy to take him out to the woods for some malt liquor and shooting and an accident.  Had we known.


No kidding. I almost shiat a brick when I found out he was from Mt. Vernon.
 
2014-03-31 07:47:15 PM  

SquiggsIN: I've started to question whether Beck even believes what he says.  How much money would it take one of you to completely sell out?  I'm guessing Beck probably has more in offshore accounts than it'd take most of us to make a deal with the devil, so to speak.


Why do you think Dennis Miller, John Stossel, etc. have all gone to The Dark Side?  Because there's SO MUCH low-hanging fruit out there!  They don't have to do shiat to rile up the idiots who watch, and then rake in the money with a request for money to fight all them Immigrants/Muslims/Liberals!

Just talk some derp, have an "I'm fer 'Murica!" Super PAC to accept donations (it's a Super PAC so they can do ANYTHING they want with the money), wait a few years, then retire to Belize.
 
2014-03-31 08:04:40 PM  

Rhaab: Baz744: As your post proves, questions about the young girl he may have raped and murdered in 1992 still haven't gone away.

Wait, there was a Glenn Beck rape/murder in 1992 in addition to the Glenn Beck rape/murder in 1990?
Does Glenn Beck give in to an uncontrollable compulsion to rape and murder little girls in every even-numbered year?

I'm just asking questions!


Oh my God...that would mean that there's some poor innocent girl who's been in a shallow grave since 1994, and we haven't found her yet!  That may just be the saddest thing I've read today.  That poor girl.  When will she ever get justice?

/what a horrible man he is
//the astute reader will notice that "he" does not have a referent
///THAT's how you do libel
 
2014-03-31 08:06:36 PM  

cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.


Ok. It's not out of a malice that I think you should kill yourself. Your special type of idiocy reminds me of the type of idiocy I dealt with during a more stressful time. It's just reasonable to assume that we would all be better were you not alive anyone.
 
2014-03-31 08:07:31 PM  

OnlyM3: cman [TotalFark]
2014-03-31 03:34:28 PM


Beck is a moran.
Agreed. So are the 4dozen total farkers who swore it was done by the Tea Party and even bet that it would not be a member of islam.


None of those morons are on regularly TV deliberately lying to rile up the kind of farktards whose entire world view is shaped by Fox News.

Those "4dozen" farkers don't do 1/1000000000th the harm Beck does to national discourse.
 
2014-03-31 08:09:29 PM  

MFAWG: OtherLittleGuy: That's what he WANTS you to think. Otherwise, he would have had a good Murrican name like Billybob Jones.

Tim McVeigh is pretty darn 'Merkan.


Sounds awfully papist to me.
 
2014-03-31 08:12:18 PM  
I detest religious idiots and detest idiot libs.


/I have no home
 
2014-03-31 08:14:36 PM  

indy_kid: SquiggsIN: I've started to question whether Beck even believes what he says.  How much money would it take one of you to completely sell out?  I'm guessing Beck probably has more in offshore accounts than it'd take most of us to make a deal with the devil, so to speak.

Why do you think Dennis Miller, John Stossel, etc. have all gone to The Dark Side?  Because there's SO MUCH low-hanging fruit out there!  They don't have to do shiat to rile up the idiots who watch, and then rake in the money with a request for money to fight all them Immigrants/Muslims/Liberals!

Just talk some derp, have an "I'm fer 'Murica!" Super PAC to accept donations (it's a Super PAC so they can do ANYTHING they want with the money), wait a few years, then retire to Belize.



It's hard to sincerely compete in the intellectual world of ideas and verifiable fact.

It's much easier to adopt an anti government faux conservative viewpoint on every subject.  It gives you a ready made audience, a set of talking points and self reinforcing logical fallacies you can use, instead of reasoning out real policy ideas.
 
2014-03-31 08:14:44 PM  

Warlordtrooper: cman: Beck is a moran.

However, since I like to stoke flames, let me take on a different side.

He could argue that it wasnt made in malice that it was made due to emotional distress. That day reminded us a lot of 9/11.

You can't accuse someone of a horrible crime if it's not true. This is what defamation laws were made for. Did that kid that was fall accused of the new town shooting everywhere up because he's due for a serious payday from multiple news stations


No, but emotional distress! Just like at my dad's funeral when I raped my step-sister. It was a trying time for all of us. It was more catharsis than rape. Maybe it was rapethartic. Maybe.
 
2014-03-31 08:15:55 PM  

Jument: Wait, isn't he that guy who raped and killed that girl a few years back?


I've also heard the rumor that Glenn Beck raped and killed a girl in 1990.  It's disturbing that he refuses to deny it.
 
2014-03-31 08:30:30 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Bith Set Me Up: It's sickening how Pavlovian it is assuming a Middle Easterner and/or Muslim is behind every major crime. When Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City, everybody assumed a Middle Easterner was responsible, with the FBI calling for Arabic translators.

Our whole society has been taught to only view Middle Easterners and Muslims with distrust and scorn. That needs to change.

We're with you, Mr. Alharbi. Break Beck's ass into pieces.

During the Boston bombing, the shooting at Fort Hood and the attempted Times Square bombing, the Total Fark left were engaging in circle jokes, praying to their large government god that it was a white Tea Bagger.


Do you ever get ashamed or disappointed in yourself that you endlessly,ceaselessly and in your worthless skull importantly compare actual important shiat to this dumb website run by a turd? And as a follow-up: If you don't, have you ever thought maybe you should?
 
2014-03-31 08:34:24 PM  

pute kisses like a man: generally, malice in the defamation context can be shown by knowingly false statements, or statements made with a reckless disregard for the truth.


So, it's anything broadcast by Fox News?
 
2014-03-31 08:40:20 PM  
Two turn-tables and a microphone.
 
2014-03-31 08:59:53 PM  

machoprogrammer: Pants full of macaroni!!: Nemo's Brother: During the Boston bombing, the shooting at Fort Hood and the attempted Times Square bombing, the Total Fark left were engaging in circle jokes, praying to their large government god that it was a white Tea Bagger.

Which of course is bunk, because TINSTAAVC.

TINSTAAVC?


There is no such thing as a vegetable consortium.
 
2014-03-31 09:18:59 PM  
Even tho it will take 10 yrs and a dozen lawyers I hope he takes the fat prick for every dime.
 
2014-03-31 09:32:31 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: OnlyM3: cman [TotalFark]
2014-03-31 03:34:28 PM


Beck is a moran.
Agreed. So are the 4dozen total farkers who swore it was done by the Tea Party and even bet that it would not be a member of islam.

None of those morons are on regularly TV deliberately lying to rile up the kind of farktards whose entire world view is shaped by Fox News.

Those "4dozen" farkers don't do 1/1000000000th the harm Beck does to national discourse.


This sounds an awful lot like "I can be racist but you can not because my number is smaller"
 
2014-03-31 09:40:05 PM  

TerminalEchoes: MayoSlather: A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.

If only i had a chalk board so that I could illustrate every time you've stated this tired, old, and debunked accusation. Grow up. Seriously.


i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-03-31 09:47:36 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: This sounds an awful lot like "I can be racist but you can not because my number is smaller"


And all racists are not equal. The racist running for state office has more influence than the racist who fills the Pepsi machine at the office, who has more influence than the old lady at the nursing home who won't be treated by a colored. If you demand that someone devote energy to the lady at the nursing home before they are allowed to devote energy to the guy running for office, you are attempting to deflect from the real issue for some reason.
 
2014-03-31 09:52:05 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: DeathByGeekSquad: He should widen the case, it wasn't just Glenn Beck.  During the initial hours, names were flying everywhere - and articles were being released with those names because everyone was trying to get 'the scoop'.  They later edited out the names, and blamed social media.

True...Beck was one of many tagging this guy as guilty. Beck was one of a myriad in media doing this

Which means this Saudi national does not have a slam dunk case...and looks like Beck is singled out because he has more $$$ and listeners/viewers


Or because he *kept* claiming it *after* the police had cleared the guy. That's where he crossed the line between "shoddy journalism" and "intentional character assassination for profit". The non-Faux news agencies backed down once the guy was cleared, including a good number of them issuing apologies and corrections for screwing up.
 
2014-03-31 10:00:01 PM  
It couldn't have happened to a nicer fellow.
 
2014-03-31 10:34:12 PM  

Rhaab: machoprogrammer: TINSTAAVC?

Took me a moment to work it out. I think he's saying "There Is No Such Thing As A Violent Christian", which I do believe has been falsely claimed by right-wingers more than once.


Hmm. That's going to make explaining what religion all those people in the supermax prisons belong to.

TerminalEchoes: MayoSlather: A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.

If only i had a chalk board so that I could illustrate every time you've stated this tired, old, and debunked accusation. Grow up. Seriously.


I don't think that's ever been "debunked." I think you'll need to find a new adjective to white knight with. Plenty of accurate and proper ones are out there just waiting for you to discover them.
 
2014-03-31 11:59:37 PM  
God bless his poor, dear, sweet heart, but he does just try so very hard doesn't he...
 
2014-04-01 12:00:45 AM  

Cataholic: You actually can become an involuntary public figure if you are a part of something particularly notorious and newsworthy.


Not for purposes of libel law. Name an example of what you're talking about.
 
2014-04-01 12:03:07 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: 100 Watt Walrus: OnlyM3: cman [TotalFark]
2014-03-31 03:34:28 PM


Beck is a moran.
Agreed. So are the 4dozen total farkers who swore it was done by the Tea Party and even bet that it would not be a member of islam.

None of those morons are on regularly TV deliberately lying to rile up the kind of farktards whose entire world view is shaped by Fox News.

Those "4dozen" farkers don't do 1/1000000000th the harm Beck does to national discourse.

This sounds an awful lot like "I can be racist but you can not because my number is smaller"


Go fuk yourself scumfuker, as you defend those that do this that have a national stage, and pretend it's justified because some assholes on a website do the same thing for the "other side" as if it is in some way equal, and even comparable.
 
2014-04-01 12:14:35 AM  
Weak.
Beck never claimed anything about the man that hasn't been proven true,
never claimed he was responsible,
and the story dies here.
 
2014-04-01 12:24:49 AM  

Dwindle: Weak.
Beck never claimed anything about the man that hasn't been proven true,
never claimed he was responsible,
and the story dies here.


Its just beck derangement syndrome. He's pretty harmless as a talk show host, but I admit I stopped listening when he turned serious. I miss Kandahar and Jalalabad.
 
2014-04-01 12:31:39 AM  

archichris: beck derangement syndrome.


hurrwut
 
2014-04-01 01:09:29 AM  

archichris: He's pretty harmless as a talk show host


tinyurl.com/o8ttkmo - The 50 Worst Things Glenn Beck Said on Fox News

This would be an actual link, but Fark hates it for no good reason. If 50 isn't enough for you, or you want more recent evidence of how reprehensible he is, I'll be happy to hit the Googles for you some more.
 
2014-04-01 01:12:38 AM  

Jument: Wait, isn't he that guy who raped and killed that girl a few years back?


1990.
 
2014-04-01 06:43:58 AM  

fusillade762: TerminalEchoes: MayoSlather: A clever ruse by Beck to deflect attention away from the girls he's raped and murdered. If only I had a chalkboard I could better illustrate his dastardly plot.

If only i had a chalk board so that I could illustrate every time you've stated this tired, old, and debunked accusation. Grow up. Seriously.

If only I had a chalk board to help explain this thing called "humor" to you.


It's not humor when he posts the exact same accusation in every single thread having to do with Glen Beck.
 
2014-04-01 08:46:06 AM  

Rhaab: machoprogrammer: TINSTAAVC?

Took me a moment to work it out. I think he's saying "There Is No Such Thing As A Violent Christian", which I do believe has been falsely claimed by right-wingers more than once.


Actually it's "There Is No Such Thing As A Violent Conservative", but the principle's the same.  Even Jim Adkisson, who shot up a UU church because it was full of Liberals and wrote a manifesto about how Liberals are pure evil and must be killed, is considered a Liberal because he was on welfare.
 
2014-04-01 08:55:08 AM  

LazyMedia: Cataholic: You actually can become an involuntary public figure if you are a part of something particularly notorious and newsworthy.

Not for purposes of libel law. Name an example of what you're talking about.



A nice discussion of it is here:

"The involuntary public figure doctrine has its origins in one sentence from the United States Supreme Court decision in Gertz: "Hypothetically, it may be possible for someone to become a public figure through no purposeful action of his own, but the instances of truly involuntary public figures must be exceedingly rare." Gertz, 418 U.S. at 345, 94 S. Ct. at 3009. Gertz's recognition that an involuntary public figure is rare has been supported by subsequent case law. That is, only a handful of courts have ever found a plaintiff to be an involuntary public figure. See Dameron v. Washington Magazine, Inc., 779 F.2d 736, 742-43 (D.C. Cir. 1985) (holding airport controller on duty during plane crash to be an involuntary public figure); Carson v. Allied News Co., 529 F.2d 206, 210 (7th Cir. 1976) (wife of Johnny Carson held to be an involuntary public figure); Zupnik v. Associated Press, Inc., 31 F. Supp. 2d 70, 73 (D. Conn. 1998) (wife involuntary public figure because of spouse's notoriety); Atlanta Journal-Constitution v. Jewell, 555 S.E.2d 175, 186 (Ga. Ct. App. 2002) (security guard held to be involuntary public figure); Daniel Goldreyer, Ltd. v. Dow Jones & Co., Inc., 687 N.Y.S.2d 64, 65 (1999) (art restorer held to be involuntary public figure); Bay View Packing Co. v. Taff, 543 N.W.2d 522, 532-34 (Wis. Ct. App. 1995) (holding food processing company was involuntary public figure).
        The leading case to explore the contours of the involuntary public figure doctrine is Wells v. Liddy, 186 F.3d 505 (4th Cir. 1999). In Wells, the plaintiff filed a defamation action against the defendant, G. Gordon Liddy, over statements he made about the plaintiff in his talks about the 1972 Watergate break-ins. The federal district court granted the defendant summary judgment after finding the plaintiff was an involuntary public figure and that she failed to prove actual malice. The plaintiff appealed to the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. Prior to addressing the issue of whether the plaintiff was an involuntary public figure, the Fourth Circuit adopted the following test for establishing a plaintiff as an involuntary public figure:

            First, to prove that a plaintiff is an involuntary public figure the defendant must demonstrate to the court that the plaintiff has become a central figure in a significant public controversy and that the allegedly defamatory statement has arisen in the course of discourse regarding the public matter. To prove that the plaintiff is a central figure in the controversy, the defendant must put forth evidence that the plaintiff has been the regular focus of media reports on the controversy. . . . Second, although an involuntary public figure need not have sought to publicize her views on the relevant controversy, she must have nonetheless assumed the risk of publicity. Therefore, the defendant must demonstrate that the plaintiff has taken some action, or failed to act when action was required, in circumstances in which a reasonable person would understand that publicity would likely inhere.

Wells, 186 F.3d at 539-540. Applying its test to the facts presented, the Fourth Circuit concluded that the plaintiff was not an involuntary public figure because she "simply has not been a central figure in media reports on Watergate." Id., 186 F.3d at 540."

http://www.courtswv.gov/supreme-court/docs/spring2003/31045.htm
 
2014-04-01 09:35:19 AM  

cman: Beck is a moran.


I also heard that he's a loser, baby...

/And, he gets crazy with the Cheez Whiz...
 
2014-04-01 01:40:42 PM  
Looks like derper #332991 has issue a summary judgement in favor of the defendant.
 
2014-04-01 03:48:09 PM  

Rhaab: archichris: He's pretty harmless as a talk show host

tinyurl.com/o8ttkmo - The 50 Worst Things Glenn Beck Said on Fox News

This would be an actual link, but Fark hates it for no good reason. If 50 isn't enough for you, or you want more recent evidence of how reprehensible he is, I'll be happy to hit the Googles for you some more.


I'm surprised it's possible to narrow it down to 50 things.
 
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