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(Deadspin)   How about those student athletes? Aaron Harrison's 3-pointer made $329,166 for his coaches and Kentucky's athletic director due to contract bonuses   (deadspin.com) divider line 48
    More: Obvious, athletic director, Kentucky, student athlete, head coaches, basketball coach, John Calipari, Elite Eight  
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2014-03-31 02:32:44 PM  
"Hah!  Good at bizness."
 
2014-03-31 02:42:01 PM  

robsul82: "Hah!  Good at bizness."


Dolphinately.
 
2014-03-31 02:53:18 PM  
It will better prepare them for our trickle down world.
 
2014-03-31 04:01:28 PM  
Seems like they made a very good decision in recruiting him and offering him a full scholarship to Kentucky.
 
2014-03-31 04:01:33 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: It will better prepare them for our trickle down world.


It's the perfect model of post-modern 'Capitalism', isn't it?
 
2014-03-31 04:03:20 PM  
You get a free education and a chance to show off to the big employers.   It's your unpaid internship you dumbasses.  Suck it up, do well and go get a job like everybody else does.
 
2014-03-31 04:04:53 PM  
Sunny forgot to mention how much in college tuition, subsidies, housing allowances, food allowances and booster payments this poor player received already.
 
2014-03-31 04:06:15 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: You get a free education and a chance to show off to the big employers.   It's your unpaid internship you dumbasses.  Suck it up, do well and go get a job like everybody else does.


In how many industries is the unpaid intern the most important part of the organization?

bborchar: Sunny forgot to mention how much in college tuition, subsidies, housing allowances, food allowances and booster payments this poor player received already.


Do you know that is the argument the students used with to gain employee status?
 
2014-03-31 04:12:47 PM  
For everyone arguing that scholarships and exposure are enough compensation for the athletes, where do you want the boatloads of cash that college basketball and football earn to go?  Should they pay the guys who make $4 million a year even more money?  Should they renovate the practice facility again for $15 million even though it was just redone 10 years ago?  These "student athletes" spend 40+ hours a week on their sport in addition to taking a full class load.  They give up their summer vacation to stay on campus taking a couple summer classes so they can put in time in the weight room and go to player organized practices.

If you don't want to pay them directly, the least the schools could do is allow them to make money off their name/likeness.  Let them make money from endorsement deals, or signing autographs, or their appearance in a video game.
 
2014-03-31 04:13:00 PM  

MugzyBrown: Smeggy Smurf: You get a free education and a chance to show off to the big employers.   It's your unpaid internship you dumbasses.  Suck it up, do well and go get a job like everybody else does.

In how many industries is the unpaid intern the most important part of the organization?


Cotton farming

/going to hell
 
2014-03-31 04:14:21 PM  

MugzyBrown: Smeggy Smurf: You get a free education and a chance to show off to the big employers.   It's your unpaid internship you dumbasses.  Suck it up, do well and go get a job like everybody else does.

In how many industries is the unpaid intern the most important part of the organization?



I'd argue that in an industry with such rapid roster turnover, it's the recruiter who is the most important.
 
2014-03-31 04:15:04 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: MugzyBrown: Smeggy Smurf: You get a free education and a chance to show off to the big employers.   It's your unpaid internship you dumbasses.  Suck it up, do well and go get a job like everybody else does.

In how many industries is the unpaid intern the most important part of the organization?

Cotton farming

/going to hell


ohsnap.jpg
 
2014-03-31 04:15:46 PM  
And if Harrison breaks his leg in the final game and can't play anymore, Kentucky isn't required to continue his scholarship or pay for his medical bills or recovery. But Kentucky can still make a story out of it and use it to sell millions of dollars of his jerseys and all he gets out of it is a doctors bill.
 
2014-03-31 04:21:03 PM  

Farnn: For everyone arguing that scholarships and exposure are enough compensation for the athletes, where do you want the boatloads of cash that college basketball and football earn to go?  Should they pay the guys who make $4 million a year even more money?  Should they renovate the practice facility again for $15 million even though it was just redone 10 years ago?  These "student athletes" spend 40+ hours a week on their sport in addition to taking a full class load.  They give up their summer vacation to stay on campus taking a couple summer classes so they can put in time in the weight room and go to player organized practices.

If you don't want to pay them directly, the least the schools could do is allow them to make money off their name/likeness.  Let them make money from endorsement deals, or signing autographs, or their appearance in a video game.


It's the warrior code!🏀
 
2014-03-31 04:21:46 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com

Watch the documentary Schooled. You can see an athletic director saying if you pay athletes, you'll have the animals running the zoo

/unionize the players, get gambling out of college sports and get the games off cable and back on to local free broadcast
 
2014-03-31 04:22:45 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: get gambling out of college sports and get the games off cable and back on to local free broadcast


Good luck with that.
 
2014-03-31 04:25:54 PM  

MugzyBrown: Smeggy Smurf: You get a free education and a chance to show off to the big employers.   It's your unpaid internship you dumbasses.  Suck it up, do well and go get a job like everybody else does.

In how many industries is the unpaid intern the most important part of the organization?

bborchar: Sunny forgot to mention how much in college tuition, subsidies, housing allowances, food allowances and booster payments this poor player received already.

Do you know that is the argument the students used with to gain employee status?


If they are tired of going to college, then the players should form their own minor league...the only way to break the rules set up between the NCAA and the major leagues is to make a minor league that accepts players out of high school. The major leagues aren't going to turn their noses up at top talent to preserve the NCAA.

But to claim that they are "exploited" when the top players often get scholarships from top level universities that they would probably never have a shot at otherwise? Plus all sorts of benefits to go along with it? Many people 30 and under are drowning in debt that they can never escape just to get an education they have to have to live...these people get it for free and they complain when the people at the top make millions. Guess what? That's how ALL business works. The CEO makes all of the money while the peons and middle managers do all the work. If you can't stand it anymore, you strike out on your own and provide competition.
 
2014-03-31 04:37:44 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: You get a free education and a chance to show off to the big employers.   It's your unpaid internship you dumbasses.  Suck it up, do well and go get a job like everybody else does.


and why does baseball have a paid farm system instead?
yup we are the dumbasses expecting schools to educate, rather than entertain

lol
 
2014-03-31 04:42:06 PM  
I just love how Calipari is trolling everybody. This run will serve to bring in another top recruiting class. Some current players may return and UK will be right back next year. Watching him take boys and turn them into men over 6 months is something to behold. And so is watching UK haters gnashing their teeth in frustration. GO BIG BLUE!!!
 
2014-03-31 04:52:16 PM  

Friction8r: I just love how Calipari is trolling everybody. This run will serve to bring in another top recruiting class. Some current players may return and UK will be right back next year. Watching him take boys and turn them into men over 6 months is something to behold. And so is watching UK haters gnashing their teeth in frustration. GO BIG BLUE!!!


Apparently he shiat the bed with Demarcus Cousins, but I guess nobody's perfect.
 
2014-03-31 04:53:23 PM  

namatad: and why does baseball have a paid farm system instead?


They don't have a paid farm system instead. They have one as well.
 
2014-03-31 04:54:26 PM  

bborchar: the only way to break the rules set up between the NCAA and the major leagues is to make a minor league that accepts players out of high school.


No, it's not the only way, because the rules setup between the NCAA and the major leagues violate every anti-trust law on the books
 
2014-03-31 04:55:01 PM  

IAmRight: namatad: and why does baseball have a paid farm system instead?

They don't have a paid farm system instead. They have one as well.


ditto for the NHL
 
2014-03-31 04:55:23 PM  

bborchar: Many people 30 and under are drowning in debt that they can never escape just to get an education they have to have to live...these people get it for free


Oh Christ. I left school in gigantic debt myself and it sure felt like a good handful of years before I could climb into a more comfortable financial setting (and I'm far from rich now), yet never once have I thought "boy, because I and a lot of others had to pay for our education, these student-athletes better not try to negotiate a more favorable compensation plan for themselves."

Friction8r: I just love how Calipari is trolling everybody.


Truthfully, he's not trolling anyone; I think a lot of people just have this stupidly outdated, fetishized idea of what college-athletics are "supposed" to be. I'm no Kentucky fan but at the same time I don't masturbate to the idea of some kid wearing the same John Stockton-esque short shorts for four years either.
 
2014-03-31 05:01:08 PM  

robsul82: "Hah!  Good at bizness."


Considering that, so far, that's probably the most memorable shot of the tournament, it probably will end up getting him drafted a few picks earlier than he would have been. To make more than an additional $300,000 over the course of his first contract, it looks like he'd need to move up about 2 slots, give or take.

Bryce Drew sucked up a 6-year journeyman NBA career by hitting a big shot in the tournament. I think HArrison will come out just fine, even if other people also got paid.
 
2014-03-31 05:08:52 PM  
I'd like to be the stick in the mud that points out that the other 72 points were also important in winning that game. Otherwise, they would have lost by an embarrassing score of 72-3.

That one clutch shot may have clinched the bonuses, but the rest of the game and the rest of the team contributed to other people earning money as well.
 
2014-03-31 05:12:44 PM  
This makes me very upset
 
2014-03-31 05:21:08 PM  

MugzyBrown: In how many industries is the unpaid intern the most important part of the organization?


None, including athletics.
 
2014-03-31 05:23:44 PM  

Donnchadha: I'd like to be the stick in the mud that points out that the other 72 points were also important in winning that game. Otherwise, they would have lost by an embarrassing score of 72-3.

That one clutch shot may have clinched the bonuses, but the rest of the game and the rest of the team contributed to other people earning money as well.


I'll join in and point out that Harrison would not have been able to just show up and ask to play in that game.  He needed the entire institution to get to the point that he was able to be on the court to take the shot.
 
2014-03-31 05:30:37 PM  

kwame: MugzyBrown: In how many industries is the unpaid intern the most important part of the organization?

None, including athletics.


What about real doll manufacturing?
 
2014-03-31 05:31:38 PM  

ongbok: kwame: MugzyBrown: In how many industries is the unpaid intern the most important part of the organization?

None, including athletics.

What about real doll manufacturing?


I'm not sure.  Let me poll the 2,000 other idiots before you who used that joke in an unrelated discussion.
 
2014-03-31 05:35:13 PM  

kwame: ongbok: kwame: MugzyBrown: In how many industries is the unpaid intern the most important part of the organization?

None, including athletics.

What about real doll manufacturing?

I'm not sure.  Let me poll the 2,000 other idiots before you who used that joke in an unrelated discussion.


Just asking you because you seem to be the resident expert on the subject.
 
2014-03-31 05:38:18 PM  

Killer Cars: bborchar: Many people 30 and under are drowning in debt that they can never escape just to get an education they have to have to live...these people get it for free

Oh Christ. I left school in gigantic debt myself and it sure felt like a good handful of years before I could climb into a more comfortable financial setting (and I'm far from rich now), yet never once have I thought "boy, because I and a lot of others had to pay for our education, these student-athletes better not try to negotiate a more favorable compensation plan for themselves."


I never said they shouldn't.  But the problem is that once you sign a contract saying "I accept these conditions and reimbursements", it's a hell of a lot harder to try and change them later.  When they sign the papers, they are saying "I understand the conditions and I accept them".  If you don't like the terms of the contract, you don't sign it and find an alternative.  But the ONLY way to solve the problem of compensating student athletes in football and basketball without running afoul of the law or compromising the student athletes of other sports is to get those sports out of college.  That's pretty much it.
 
2014-03-31 05:41:00 PM  
"It will be complicated to change a system this large and this corrupt so we should just accept the status quo and maintain the NCAA's illegal cartel" ok
 
2014-03-31 05:46:04 PM  

bborchar: But the ONLY way to solve the problem of compensating student athletes in football and basketball without running afoul of the law or compromising the student athletes of other sports is to get those sports out of college. That's pretty much it.


So basically, eliminate the opportunity to get a free education for an overwhelming percentage of student athletes in order to get a salary for the minimal percentage who are talented enough to play their sport as a professional.
 
2014-03-31 05:51:18 PM  
Why not let them earn money off their play but not with their play?! Signing autographs and making public appearances (out of uniform of course!). We all know the only reason people want their autographs is because they are star players but that's not pay for play!
 
2014-03-31 06:13:03 PM  
Let me be the first to say that that shot cost me a chance to win our office pool.

/not $300k but still
 
2014-03-31 06:27:26 PM  
i1318.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-31 06:38:53 PM  

Farnn: For everyone arguing that scholarships and exposure are enough compensation for the athletes, where do you want the boatloads of cash that college basketball and football earn to go?  Should they pay the guys who make $4 million a year even more money?  Should they renovate the practice facility again for $15 million even though it was just redone 10 years ago?  These "student athletes" spend 40+ hours a week on their sport in addition to taking a full class load.  They give up their summer vacation to stay on campus taking a couple summer classes so they can put in time in the weight room and go to player organized practices.

If you don't want to pay them directly, the least the schools could do is allow them to make money off their name/likeness.  Let them make money from endorsement deals, or signing autographs, or their appearance in a video game.


I think your last idea is the one that could work. Let the guys make the money off their names, likenesses, autographs, etc. I cant think of another industry where you sign the away the right to make money off your own name.
 
2014-03-31 06:52:11 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: I think your last idea is the one that could work. Let the guys make the money off their names, likenesses, autographs, etc. I cant think of another industry where you sign the away the right to make money off your own name.


The problem is defining what you can make off your name/autograph/etc.

/hey, this booster gave me a check to play for his school, I signed it when I deposited it in my account; I was paid for signing autographs
//the other problem is that part of their ability to make money "off their own name" is intrinsically tied to the university's name, and the NCAA doesn't want some of its more dumbf*ck athletes to go out there and sell t-shirts that make it seem like implicit support of things like, say, Miami's 7th Floor Crew
 
2014-03-31 07:36:53 PM  

kwame: bborchar: But the ONLY way to solve the problem of compensating student athletes in football and basketball without running afoul of the law or compromising the student athletes of other sports is to get those sports out of college. That's pretty much it.

So basically, eliminate the opportunity to get a free education for an overwhelming percentage of student athletes in order to get a salary for the minimal percentage who are talented enough to play their sport as a professional.


Either a free education is enough for ALL athletes or none.  You can't play favorites.
 
2014-03-31 07:44:19 PM  

bborchar: kwame: bborchar: But the ONLY way to solve the problem of compensating student athletes in football and basketball without running afoul of the law or compromising the student athletes of other sports is to get those sports out of college. That's pretty much it.

So basically, eliminate the opportunity to get a free education for an overwhelming percentage of student athletes in order to get a salary for the minimal percentage who are talented enough to play their sport as a professional.

Either a free education is enough for ALL athletes or none.  You can't play favorites.


I agree.
 
2014-03-31 07:51:29 PM  

bborchar: Either a free education is enough for ALL athletes or none. You can't play favorites.


It's not a free education, that's the whole point of the NLRB ruling
 
2014-03-31 08:18:31 PM  
I am 100% sure that a similar story would have been posted if Michigan won on a last second 3-point shot.

/haters gonna hate
//Go Big Blue
 
2014-03-31 08:37:53 PM  

Nickster79: I am 100% sure that a similar story would have been posted if Michigan won on a last second 3-point shot.

/haters gonna hate
//Go Big Blue


interestingly enough, i posted this article the other day, but it was not greened.

and for the record, i am proudly a BBN "hater."  between the ohio state dickbags to the north and the big blue blowhards to the south, i'm just sitting here waiting for these major(ly corrupt) programs to implode. and soon.

and despite my (rapidly waning) allegiances, i'm growing damn annoyed and increasingly ambivalent when it comes to the farce that is "amateur" athletics.

/unc for my bachelors, uc for my masters,  born in ann arbor
//and yes, i am aware that these schools have had their share of transgressions as well

///hate hate hate hate hate hate hate
 
2014-03-31 09:22:07 PM  
I know there are compelling market-oriented arguments for these types of  salaries and bonuses. I guess the funding streams for athletics are also different. Still, that my graduate alma mater is slated to cut access to research and travel funding for graduate students who are increasingly central to the fulfillment of the school's duties as a land-grant, R1 institution feels icky.
 
2014-03-31 09:28:06 PM  
I'd like to advocate getting rid of intercollegiate athletics and a return to club sports, intramurals, and phys Ed.

Of course, I'd like to get rid of research institutions having undergraduates, too. A 19th century (Lite) series of small colleges that (and here's the tricky part) just teach.
 
2014-04-01 05:31:53 AM  

kwame: bborchar: But the ONLY way to solve the problem of compensating student athletes in football and basketball without running afoul of the law or compromising the student athletes of other sports is to get those sports out of college. That's pretty much it.

So basically, eliminate the opportunity to get a free education for an overwhelming percentage of student athletes in order to get a salary for the minimal percentage who are talented enough to play their sport as a professional.


Wait, hold on.  This guy sounds like a JV badass.  Let's hear what he has to say.
 
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