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(Quartz)   When Netflix tried to bump prices up a bit, everyone on the internet freaked right the fark out. But When Amazon just jumped the cost of prime $20 there was barely a whimper of protest. Why?   (qz.com) divider line 120
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2014-03-31 12:45:06 PM  
Because Netflix is exclusively a media content delivery system, and Amazon Prime delivers streaming media and free shipping of physical goods?
 
2014-03-31 12:54:41 PM  
Because people think going from $5.83  a month to $7.50 a month Amazon Prime is still a pretty damn good deal?
 
2014-03-31 01:03:23 PM  
If you have to ask that question, then the question is far too advanced for your mind to even comprehend, subby.
 
2014-03-31 01:05:45 PM  
Because an increase on an annual charge only really exists in that month before the annual charge.

An increase on a monthly charge affects you immediately.
 
2014-03-31 01:13:07 PM  
Because it is still a good deal....
 
2014-03-31 01:33:06 PM  
Mostly because Netflix tried to give its DVD mail business a stupid name.  If they had called it something cool like Poplars, it would have gone over fine.
 
2014-03-31 02:04:05 PM  

RodneyToady: free shipping of physical goods


It's not really free shipping if you're paying for it...
 
2014-03-31 02:27:38 PM  

RexTalionis: It's not really free shipping if you're paying for it...


Well, no.  No it isn't.  But "no shipping costs after the upfront cost of Prime membership is balanced out by no-cost shipping orders, which may or may not result in overall lower shipping costs depending on the frequency of your orders during the course of your yearly membership" takes much longer to type than "free."
 
2014-03-31 02:28:30 PM  
Don't forget Sunday delivery.  It's sweet.  If I was ever home on Sunday to receive the package.
 
2014-03-31 02:48:04 PM  

serial_crusher: Mostly because Netflix tried to give its DVD mail business a stupid name.  If they had called it something cool like Poplars, it would have gone over fine.


If you promise not to sue us you can't stick em up your nose.
 
2014-03-31 02:51:12 PM  
Before the Netflix price increase, I was thinking, "Netflix has a lot of awful streaming content and a lot of the things I want to watch are only available with their DVD rental and DVD rentals are a pain in the ass" and then Netflix announced that they were raising their monthly prices.

Before the Amazon Prime price increase, I was thinking, "for $79 a year I get access to a decent amount of streaming content and nearly anything else I can think of I can either stream rent for cheap or buy a streaming license for, AND I get free shipping on a lot of stuff I buy off of Amazon! This is a good deal!" and then Amazon told me that it could cost me $20 more a year.
 
2014-03-31 02:51:56 PM  

kronicfeld: serial_crusher: Mostly because Netflix tried to give its DVD mail business a stupid name.  If they had called it something cool like Poplars, it would have gone over fine.

If you promise not to sue us you can't stick em up your nose.


They go great with gwack-a-mole.
 
2014-03-31 02:58:13 PM  
Woe is me, now it will cost me $0.38 per package for shipping!
 
2014-03-31 03:20:06 PM  
Eh, I'll stick with Netflix, the price is very reasonable given the amount of extra content vs Amazon Prime, and as far as I know Amazon doesn't rent physical discs for things unavailable for streaming.

Maybe Prime would be appealing if I ever bought anything from Amazon, but I don't, so the free shipping doesn't do anything for me.
 
2014-03-31 03:37:12 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Before the Netflix price increase, I was thinking, "Netflix has a lot of awful streaming content and a lot of the things I want to watch are only available with their DVD rental and DVD rentals are a pain in the ass" and then Netflix announced that they were raising their monthly prices.

Before the Amazon Prime price increase, I was thinking, "for $79 a year I get access to a decent amount of streaming content and nearly anything else I can think of I can either stream rent for cheap or buy a streaming license for, AND I get free shipping on a lot of stuff I buy off of Amazon! This is a good deal!" and then Amazon told me that it could cost me $20 more a year.


If you start thinking about Total Fark subscription prices, I'm punching you.
 
2014-03-31 04:12:02 PM  

UberDave: kronicfeld: serial_crusher: Mostly because Netflix tried to give its DVD mail business a stupid name.  If they had called it something cool like Poplars, it would have gone over fine.

If you promise not to sue us you can't stick em up your nose.

They go great with gwack-a-mole.


Stay away from the money-saving 12-pack!
 
2014-03-31 04:15:37 PM  
If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.
 
2014-03-31 04:17:17 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Lando Lincoln: Before the Netflix price increase, I was thinking, "Netflix has a lot of awful streaming content and a lot of the things I want to watch are only available with their DVD rental and DVD rentals are a pain in the ass" and then Netflix announced that they were raising their monthly prices.

Before the Amazon Prime price increase, I was thinking, "for $79 a year I get access to a decent amount of streaming content and nearly anything else I can think of I can either stream rent for cheap or buy a streaming license for, AND I get free shipping on a lot of stuff I buy off of Amazon! This is a good deal!" and then Amazon told me that it could cost me $20 more a year.

If you start thinking about Total Fark subscription prices, I'm punching you.


No, I really haven't thought about them. But maybe I am. Maybe I'm not. You just don't know.
 
2014-03-31 04:17:17 PM  

skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.


Then there really wouldn't be a need for cable anymore.

/except ESPN

//doesn't watch ESPN
 
2014-03-31 04:18:30 PM  

skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.


That's the worst thing about Hulu. "Pay us eight bucks a month and still watch commercials! Whee!" Fark those guys.
 
2014-03-31 04:20:58 PM  
I'm upset that the cost of Prime is no longer a prime number.
 
2014-03-31 04:21:26 PM  

skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.


I have made a game of it.  I tried to use the "is this ad for you" buttons to see if I can get the same ad all the time -- everytime.  I had too.. If I saw Alec Baldwin's stupid face for one more credit card commercial I was going to have to give up.
 
2014-03-31 04:22:03 PM  

Lando Lincoln: skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.

That's the worst thing about Hulu. "Pay us eight bucks a month and still watch commercials! Whee!" Fark those guys.


Honestly though, for  those who use Hulu+, it's still way cheaper than cable which also has commercials.
 
2014-03-31 04:26:36 PM  
Because for those who use it, it's still an insanely good deal?
 
2014-03-31 04:29:13 PM  

Ecobuckeye: I'm upset that the cost of Prime is no longer a prime number.


Oh, gorram it.

Amazon should go to 101 or 103, then.
 
2014-03-31 04:29:15 PM  

Lando Lincoln: skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.

That's the worst thing about Hulu. "Pay us eight bucks a month and still watch commercials! Whee!" Fark those guys.


IMHO, Hulu+ just sucks.  There's zero consistency, from show to show, with what it gets you.  Maybe you get the current full season.  Maybe current episodes show up sooner.  Maybe you get previous seasons.  Maybe you get nothing extra at all.  Hell, you might not even get this show, because that network doesn't like Hulu.
 
2014-03-31 04:31:13 PM  
Because with two-day shipping it only takes a few orders to make that pay off.

I think of Prime as pay-ahead shipping that segues into free pretty quickly.  After awhile I get de-prioritized and I see my orders getting shipped late and I complain about it.  Suddenly they start showing up on time and I get a free months out of it.

There's a streaming service with that too?  Bonus!
 
2014-03-31 04:31:40 PM  

Pants_Optional: Lando Lincoln: skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.

That's the worst thing about Hulu. "Pay us eight bucks a month and still watch commercials! Whee!" Fark those guys.

Honestly though, for  those who use Hulu+, it's still way cheaper than cable which also has commercials.


Here's the deal: either I pay for your content, OR you deliver commercials. Not both.  I don't care what your costs are, it's one or the other.

/doesn't have cable
//never has
///doesn't have hulu+
 
2014-03-31 04:33:58 PM  

Pants_Optional: Lando Lincoln: skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.

That's the worst thing about Hulu. "Pay us eight bucks a month and still watch commercials! Whee!" Fark those guys.

Honestly though, for  those who use Hulu+, it's still way cheaper than cable which also has commercials.


But doesn't have most cable content.

/antenna + HDHomerun
 
2014-03-31 04:36:37 PM  

kroonermanblack: Here's the deal: either I pay for your content, OR you deliver commercials. Not both. I don't care what your costs are, it's one or the other.


Something being subsidized does not make it automatically free to one party.
 
2014-03-31 04:39:36 PM  

Gonz: Ecobuckeye: I'm upset that the cost of Prime is no longer a prime number.

Oh, gorram it.

Amazon should go to 101 or 103, then.


I would settle for $97, to be honest.
 
2014-03-31 04:39:36 PM  
My biggest complaint about Hulu+ is that the sound is of when I watch any WWE program. It's fine for everything else, just WWE. It's really annoying to hear the sound before the action.
 
2014-03-31 04:43:03 PM  

kroonermanblack: Pants_Optional: Lando Lincoln: skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.

That's the worst thing about Hulu. "Pay us eight bucks a month and still watch commercials! Whee!" Fark those guys.

Honestly though, for  those who use Hulu+, it's still way cheaper than cable which also has commercials.

Here's the deal: either I pay for your content, OR you deliver commercials. Not both.  I don't care what your costs are, it's one or the other.

/doesn't have cable
//never has
///doesn't have hulu+


I don't have cable and I use the free Hulu so it doesn't matter to me.  Someone dumping $100/month cable for $8/month Hulu+ probably doesn't care about the commercials in light of the $92/month savings is all.
 
2014-03-31 04:45:53 PM  

skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.


Same here. They have a lot of the shows I would love to watch, but I the Plus membership does dick for getting rid of the commercials. Sorry, Hulu.
 
2014-03-31 04:47:04 PM  
Aprime's userbase is early-adopters and netflix's is "the masses", the latter being a lot more fickle.
 
2014-03-31 04:49:13 PM  
Because Amazon Prime caters to people with actual money where Netflix caters to people without it.
 
2014-03-31 04:49:28 PM  

skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.


Is it me or did they increase the number of commercials?
 
2014-03-31 04:52:34 PM  

Latinwolf: skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.

Is it me or did they increase the number of commercials?


I feel like there are more ads, but they're shorter.  I haven't timed it, but I don't think the ad breaks are any more than a minute or so, but it's usually two 15-second commercials and a 30-second ad instead of two 30-second commercials or a minute-long ad.
 
2014-03-31 04:58:00 PM  
Because I'm still not buying Amazon Prime?
 
2014-03-31 05:00:07 PM  

Anastacya: skinude1: If Hulu raised their prices in order to get rid of the commercials I might sign up for it as well.

Same here. They have a lot of the shows I would love to watch, but I the Plus membership does dick for getting rid of the commercials. Sorry, Hulu.


I don't mind commercials (I actually prefer them after watching a lot of Netflix)....

But what pissed me off is when I was watching Hulu, I would see the same four commercials over and over and over and over again.  Drove me crazy.
 
2014-03-31 05:25:15 PM  

RoxtarRyan: kroonermanblack: Here's the deal: either I pay for your content, OR you deliver commercials. Not both. I don't care what your costs are, it's one or the other.

Something being subsidized does not make it automatically free to one party.


What does that have to do with my post?

It's that binary. Either you get to show me ads, which I find obnoxious and hate, or you get to charge me.

Doing both simply means we will have Hulu+ go the way of Cable in 5 years; initially, it's 'just to offset the costs', but eventually it's 100$ a month + 1/3 of every time block is advertisements, and the companies are making billions in record profit, while squabbling with each other over who gets to fark you.
 
2014-03-31 05:26:09 PM  
Because Netflix wanted to bump up their prices by $96  bucks a year only for media while Prime wanted $20 bucks a year additional for streaming media and free shipping. Oh, and Amazon wasn't all like "Fark you, that's why!"
 
2014-03-31 05:31:11 PM  

Skarekrough: Because with two-day shipping it only takes a few orders to make that pay off.

I think of Prime as pay-ahead shipping that segues into free pretty quickly.  After awhile I get de-prioritized and I see my orders getting shipped late and I complain about it.  Suddenly they start showing up on time and I get a free months out of it.

There's a streaming service with that too?  Bonus!


Also, 1 ebook loaner per month
 
2014-03-31 05:33:20 PM  
Because if you think $80 a year to get free shipping is a great deal then you are buying a ton of stuff on Amazon, and chances are the increased price is STILL lower than your total shipping costs would be.
 
2014-03-31 05:34:19 PM  

Mr. Breeze: Because Netflix wanted to bump up their prices by $96  bucks a year only for media while Prime wanted $20 bucks a year additional for streaming media and free shipping. Oh, and Amazon wasn't all like "Fark you, that's why!"


Pretty much what I came here to say... well, at least the pricing part.  Amazon went up less than $2 a month, and the shipping side is still included.  Netflix raised prices AND reduced service by making you choose either DVD or streaming.  It would be comparable if Amazon had dropped it's "free" 2 day shipping offer.
 
ecl
2014-03-31 05:35:30 PM  
 
2014-03-31 05:36:55 PM  
Because most people recognized that Amazon Prime was a bargain, and even with the price increase, it is still a good deal.
 
2014-03-31 05:44:49 PM  
because shipping all those 50 pound dildos for free pays for itself
 
2014-03-31 05:47:23 PM  
Because in Canada Netflix is a mere shadow of the quality found in the US version?

/need to setup a proxy
 
2014-03-31 05:49:35 PM  

weddingsinger: Netflix raised prices AND reduced service by making you choose either DVD or streaming. It would be comparable if Amazon had dropped it's "free" 2 day shipping offer.


Netflix only raised prices on people who wanted both streaming and DVDs.  For people who were only using streaming, it actually got $2/month cheaper IIRC (maybe they already had a cheap streaming-only plan? I was still paying for DVDs I wasn't using up until the price hike, don't remember if that was just laziness or lack of choice).

The more appropriate comparison would be if Amazon had introduced a $100/year plan that included "free" shipping, but let people pay $60/year to watch streaming content.
 
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