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(BBC-US)   Medecins Sans Frontieres is now trying to contain Ebola Sans Frontieres   (bbc.com) divider line 48
    More: Scary, MSF, Ebola Sans Frontieres, Guinea, ebola, Ebola outbreak, outbreaks  
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2014-03-31 01:31:36 PM  
Sounds like a really fun jeux sans frontieres.
 
2014-03-31 01:41:15 PM  
They've issued a bat-eating ban.  That should fix it.
 
2014-03-31 01:51:04 PM  

xanadian: Sounds like a really fun jeux sans frontieres.


Little known fact: Ebola made the leap to humans because of people kissing baboons in the jungle
 
2014-03-31 01:51:23 PM  

xanadian: Sounds like a really fun jeux sans frontieres.


guerre sans larmes.
 
2014-03-31 01:54:48 PM  
Hans coughs on Lotte, Lotte coughs on Sean
Sean infects Willy and Willy is dead by dawn
Suki infects Leo, and Sasha infects Britt
Adolf builds a bonfire and burns the dead on it
 
2014-03-31 02:49:54 PM  
Well this should certainly factor into my decision to take up my aunt and uncle's invitation to go on safari with them.
 
2014-03-31 02:57:23 PM  

BunkoSquad: Hans coughs on Lotte, Lotte coughs on Sean
Sean infects Willy and Willy is dead by dawn
Suki infects Leo, and Sasha infects Britt
Adolf builds a bonfire and burns the dead on it


Bravo!
 
2014-03-31 03:00:55 PM  

Diogenes: Well this should certainly factor into my decision to take up my aunt and uncle's invitation to go on safari with them.


Eh you have a lot better chance of getting dengue, malaria, lassa fever, sleeping sickness, schistosomiasis, and/or AIDS than ebola.

/have fun, shoot with a camera, not a gun.
 
2014-03-31 03:02:52 PM  
Doctors without Borders is an important group doing important work.
 
2014-03-31 03:04:00 PM  

BunkoSquad: Hans coughs on Lotte, Lotte coughs on Sean
Sean infects Willy and Willy is dead by dawn
Suki infects Leo, and Sasha infects Britt
Adolf builds a bonfire and burns the dead on it


oh my god....shut the internet off, he's won.
 
2014-03-31 03:06:18 PM  
That's what they get for not shutting down everything.
 
2014-03-31 03:07:50 PM  
TFA: "Ebola is spread by close contact and kills between 25% and 90% of victims."

Any Ebola experts know the cause of such a wide range in fatality rates?
 
2014-03-31 03:13:53 PM  

Nightjars: TFA: "Ebola is spread by close contact and kills between 25% and 90% of victims."

Any Ebola experts know the cause of such a wide range in fatality rates?


Type of Ebola, and care available.  Ebola Zaire averages 83%, Ebola Bundibugyo averaged 34%.  There are a couple other types, but they don't currently affect humans..
 
2014-03-31 03:14:08 PM  

Nightjars: TFA: "Ebola is spread by close contact and kills between 25% and 90% of victims."

Any Ebola experts know the cause of such a wide range in fatality rates?


Iirc there are different strains and quality of medical care plays a huge part. Replacing lost fluids is critical.
 
2014-03-31 03:14:26 PM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: xanadian: Sounds like a really fun jeux sans frontieres.

Little known fact: Ebola made the leap to humans because of people kissing baboons in the jungle


There was a lot of hand shaking, too.
 
2014-03-31 03:14:53 PM  

Nightjars: TFA: "Ebola is spread by close contact and kills between 25% and 90% of victims."

Any Ebola experts know the cause of such a wide range in fatality rates?


Sometimes the patients just don't want to go on the cart.
 
2014-03-31 03:17:43 PM  

unyon: xanadian: Sounds like a really fun jeux sans frontieres.

guerre sans larmes.


Leaving satisfied.
 
2014-03-31 03:19:46 PM  
Why does Firefox insist that ebola is a proper noun?
 
2014-03-31 03:20:05 PM  
So which way am I going to die this week, supervolcano eruption or shiatting and puking my guts out from Ebola?

/whynothboth.jpg
 
2014-03-31 03:20:30 PM  

hairywoogit: Nightjars: TFA: "Ebola is spread by close contact and kills between 25% and 90% of victims."

Any Ebola experts know the cause of such a wide range in fatality rates?

Type of Ebola, and care available.  Ebola Zaire averages 83%, Ebola Bundibugyo averaged 34%.  There are a couple other types, but they don't currently affect humans..


Actually four of the five known subtypes infect humans.  The exception is Ebola Reston (of  The Hot Zone fame).

Not an ID expert but I've got to wonder if there have been enough infections/deaths to really get a good handle on infection rates.  Typically these outbreaks infect fewer than a hundred and burn out quickly.  And, widely variable standards of medical care play a role, too.

Not so CSB, my dad was just in Guinea for most of January.  Came home with a cold but I guess he missed out on the Ebolas.
 
2014-03-31 03:20:35 PM  

hairywoogit: Nightjars: TFA: "Ebola is spread by close contact and kills between 25% and 90% of victims."

Any Ebola experts know the cause of such a wide range in fatality rates?

Type of Ebola, and care available.  Ebola Zaire averages 83%, Ebola Bundibugyo averaged 34%.  There are a couple other types, but they don't currently affect humans..


Using scientific terms, there's "Nice Ebola" and "Not So Nice Ebola".

Real question: Do the people who get Ebola Bundibugyo and survive, then have immunity to Ebola Zaire?
 
2014-03-31 03:21:52 PM  
You contain it with barbed wire. It's more of a construction issue,.
 
2014-03-31 03:24:32 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Why does Firefox insist that ebola is a proper noun?


It's named after the Ebola River.
 
2014-03-31 03:27:25 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Why does Firefox insist that ebola is a proper noun?


Because the disease was named after the Ebola river.
 
2014-03-31 03:29:19 PM  
Ebola Dans Frontieres. Dans.
 
2014-03-31 03:32:59 PM  
zimbomba63:

Real question: Do the people who get Ebola Bundibugyo and survive, then have immunity to Ebola Zaire?

An award goes to any scientist who manages this experiment.

"I know you've just recovered from Ebola. Do you mind terribly if I try to infect you with this other Ebola?"
 
2014-03-31 03:33:08 PM  

zimbomba63: hairywoogit: Nightjars: TFA: "Ebola is spread by close contact and kills between 25% and 90% of victims."

Any Ebola experts know the cause of such a wide range in fatality rates?

Type of Ebola, and care available.  Ebola Zaire averages 83%, Ebola Bundibugyo averaged 34%.  There are a couple other types, but they don't currently affect humans..

Using scientific terms, there's "Nice Ebola" and "Not So Nice Ebola".

Real question: Do the people who get Ebola Bundibugyo and survive, then have immunity to Ebola Zaire?


Its technically possible, but you aren't going to find anyone to volunteer to find out.

I do know that when you can use Ebola Zaire antibodies (well, SOME of them) to pick up Ebola Bundibugyo in an ELISA assay.  So like I said, possible, but not guaranteed.

And as someone else already stated, the range of fatalities is heavily dependent upon strain mostly.  Considering this outbreak reached a major city I am wondering how much bigger it might get...
 
2014-03-31 03:33:16 PM  

hobnail: Actually four of the five known subtypes infect humans. The exception is Ebola Reston (of The Hot Zone fame).


Arguably humans can acquire and transmit Ebola Reston, but don't exhibit any remarkable symptoms. It's not clear whether it's antibodies are protective for the other strains.
 
2014-03-31 03:41:11 PM  
Swine Flu + Swine Ebola = Swine Flu Ebola

A little something to look forward too.
 
2014-03-31 03:43:02 PM  

neversubmit: Swine Flu + Swine Ebola = Swine Flu Ebola

A little something to look forward too.


Pigs can't fly
 
2014-03-31 03:49:55 PM  

neversubmit: Swine Flu + Swine Ebola = Swine Flu Ebola

A little something to look forward too.


Not quite that simple. Two entirely different families of viruses.  Both have single-stranded RNA as their genetic material but influenza is segmented and Ebola is not.
 
2014-03-31 03:51:58 PM  

BunkoSquad: Hans coughs on Lotte, Lotte coughs on Sean
Sean infects Willy and Willy is dead by dawn
Suki infects Leo, and Sasha infects Britt
Adolf builds a bonfire and burns the dead on it


Step up and collect your Internets!
 
2014-03-31 03:52:27 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: neversubmit: Swine Flu + Swine Ebola = Swine Flu Ebola

A little something to look forward too.

Not quite that simple. Two entirely different families of viruses.  Both have single-stranded RNA as their genetic material but influenza is segmented and Ebola is not.


I just pitched it to SyFy and they greenlighted two movies and a syndicated series based on your idea. Thanks!
 
2014-03-31 03:54:42 PM  

hardinparamedic: Wicked Chinchilla: neversubmit: Swine Flu + Swine Ebola = Swine Flu Ebola

A little something to look forward too.

Not quite that simple. Two entirely different families of viruses.  Both have single-stranded RNA as their genetic material but influenza is segmented and Ebola is not.

I just pitched it to SyFy and they greenlighted two movies and a syndicated series based on your idea. Thanks!


lolz.

FLUBOLNADO vs. MARPOX!  BATTLE OF THE DEADLY RECOMBINANTS!
 
2014-03-31 04:01:13 PM  
TFA said it's mostly spread by close contact, like with sex and kissing.  So farkers will be safe.
 
2014-03-31 04:05:48 PM  

whither_apophis: Iirc there are different strains and quality of medical care plays a huge part. Replacing lost fluids is critical.


Replacing lost fluids isn't really practical with the Zaire strain, as most of the lost fluids are liquified organs...
 
2014-03-31 04:08:01 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Why does Firefox insist that ebola is a proper noun?


It's not nice to insult Ebola, nor is it safe to. Grant it proper respect, vector.
 
2014-03-31 04:08:58 PM  
"Senegalese singer Youssou Ndour cancelled a concert in Conakry on Saturday because of the outbreak."

Someone mail him a sanitized medal, from a safe distance.
 
2014-03-31 04:27:50 PM  

LoneVVolf: whither_apophis: Iirc there are different strains and quality of medical care plays a huge part. Replacing lost fluids is critical.

Replacing lost fluids isn't really practical with the Zaire strain, as most of the lost fluids are liquified organs...


Just 3-D print a new liver.

/getting toner in the Congo can be a hassle tho'
 
2014-03-31 04:50:38 PM  

LoneVVolf: whither_apophis: Iirc there are different strains and quality of medical care plays a huge part. Replacing lost fluids is critical.

Replacing lost fluids isn't really practical with the Zaire strain, as most of the lost fluids are liquified organs...


Not really.

Despite Richard Preston's lurid descriptions there really isn't any liquification going on, or even that much bleeding.  The big difference between Zaire and the other strains is its apparently much higher mortality rate.
 
2014-03-31 05:00:07 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: hardinparamedic: Wicked Chinchilla: neversubmit: Swine Flu + Swine Ebola = Swine Flu Ebola

A little something to look forward too.

Not quite that simple. Two entirely different families of viruses.  Both have single-stranded RNA as their genetic material but influenza is segmented and Ebola is not.

I just pitched it to SyFy and they greenlighted two movies and a syndicated series based on your idea. Thanks!

lolz.

FLUBOLNADO vs. MARPOX!  BATTLE OF THE DEADLY RECOMBINANTS!


Helix.

/On mobile, no link.
 
vpc
2014-03-31 07:11:35 PM  
Wicked Chinchilla:

FLUBOLNADO vs. MARPOX!  BATTLE OF THE DEADLY RECOMBINANTS!

hah!! I'm putting that up on the office door.

With 78/122 dead, this sounds a lot closer to Zaire's profile than Bundibugyo...
 
2014-03-31 09:34:41 PM  

vpc: Wicked Chinchilla:

FLUBOLNADO vs. MARPOX!  BATTLE OF THE DEADLY RECOMBINANTS!

hah!! I'm putting that up on the office door.

With 78/122 dead, this sounds a lot closer to Zaire's profile than Bundibugyo...


I just went to google up "Ebola Zaire" to read about it, and before I found a regular link already there's a news story saying that this outbreak strain is suspected to be the Zaire strain. Apparently they've sequenced part of it and it matchesu p, just haven't finished yet.

 Greaaaat.
 
2014-03-31 10:32:49 PM  

BunkoSquad: Hans coughs on Lotte, Lotte coughs on Sean
Sean infects Willy and Willy is dead by dawn
Suki infects Leo, and Sasha infects Britt
Adolf builds a bonfire and burns the dead on it


uofmuscle.com
 
2014-04-01 12:45:40 AM  
Here's the big question, if it's ebola Zaire, how in the hell did it get from there all the way to Guinea? I mean it's not like the two countries are even in the same part of Africa let alone neighbors.
 
2014-04-01 12:46:27 AM  

neversubmit: That's what they get for not shutting down everything.


"while Senegal, another neighbour of Guinea's, has closed its land border."

Usually by the time the game gets to that point my virus is spreading too fast for them to stop it.

/Except goddamn Madagascar and its goddamn port
 
2014-04-01 02:09:01 AM  

erik-k: neversubmit: That's what they get for not shutting down everything.

"while Senegal, another neighbour of Guinea's, has closed its land border."

Usually by the time the game gets to that point my virus is spreading too fast for them to stop it.

/Except goddamn Madagascar and its goddamn port


That's why you have to focus on getting its water survivability up first. It has to transmit by ship before anything or else those island nations outlast you every time.

/Love that game
 
2014-04-01 06:28:10 PM  
OMG is that Ebola in his eye?

i623.photobucket.com
 
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