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(South Jersey Courier-Post)   In celebration of Opening Day, a column pondering how baseball is like newspapers. Missing: Both were a lot more popular in the 1960s   (courierpostonline.com) divider line 17
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2014-03-31 03:12:26 PM  
Except in attendance, which is a poor measure of popularity.
 
2014-03-31 03:29:32 PM  
Baseball was more popular in the 60's?????
 
2014-03-31 04:30:00 PM  
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And this chart lands in the thread like a well aimed newspaper lands on the porch.
 
2014-03-31 04:47:26 PM  
The problem isn't the attendance numbers, it's the average age of the fans, which is over 50.  So you basically have a sport that is mostly attended by the middle-aged and old.  Once the geezers start to die off, who knows what will happen..  Unless kids and grandkids pick up the sport (and can afford the sport in some places), there's going to be problems.
 
2014-03-31 05:07:32 PM  

red5ish: [img.fark.net image 688x421]
And this chart lands in the thread like a well aimed newspaper lands on the porch.


Been a fan since I was 5... but I'm scratching my head... what was with the huge spike in the early 1990's?

I understand the dip afterward is because of the strike and all.
 
2014-03-31 05:52:49 PM  

downstairs: red5ish: [img.fark.net image 688x421]
And this chart lands in the thread like a well aimed newspaper lands on the porch.

Been a fan since I was 5... but I'm scratching my head... what was with the huge spike in the early 1990's?

I understand the dip afterward is because of the strike and all.


My first guess was the addition of the Marlins and Rockies in 1993, but that's probably not it because there's no similar spikes in the 60's and 70's or in 1998 for other expansions.
 
2014-03-31 06:04:08 PM  
Baseball is ideal for the modern viewer. You can keep track of the game while Farking or playing Kwazy Cupcakes.
 
2014-03-31 06:05:17 PM  

wxboy: downstairs: red5ish: [img.fark.net image 688x421]
And this chart lands in the thread like a well aimed newspaper lands on the porch.

Been a fan since I was 5... but I'm scratching my head... what was with the huge spike in the early 1990's?

I understand the dip afterward is because of the strike and all.

My first guess was the addition of the Marlins and Rockies in 1993, but that's probably not it because there's no similar spikes in the 60's and 70's or in 1998 for other expansions.


That's what it is. The Rockies played in Mile High Stadium back then, which was farking huge. They drew almost 4.5 million fans that year, which is still the all time record by almost 200,000. The Marlins also drew 3 million. Neither team has really gotten close to those levels again, which is why the share doesn't bounce right back in 1995.
 
2014-03-31 06:17:40 PM  

neon_god: That's what it is. The Rockies played in Mile High Stadium back then, which was farking huge. They drew almost 4.5 million fans that year, which is still the all time record by almost 200,000. The Marlins also drew 3 million. Neither team has really gotten close to those levels again, which is why the share doesn't bounce right back in 1995.


And hey, the dog days never really happened in 1994.
 
2014-03-31 06:28:22 PM  
YouTube search "mlb highlights" typically you get "video deleted due to copyright infringement" or college baseball highlights.

That's one way to get younger people interested in your game...take your highlights and good plays off YouTube.

Dumbasses.
 
2014-03-31 06:35:01 PM  
Krustofsky: Unless kids and grandkids pick up the sport (and can afford the sport in some places), there's going to be problems.

For all her faults as an owner, Marge Schott did one thing very, very right. During the summer, there were always some dirt-cheap tickets available, and hot dogs were $1. She knew that if you get kids coming to the ballgames, they'd be more likely to keep coming when they're adults.
 
2014-03-31 06:44:03 PM  
i lost track of baseball for a while but have come back. loved it as a kid. now as a 45 yr old...i'm back. actually been back for a few years.

from 20-39...didn't care.
 
2014-03-31 07:12:06 PM  

Krustofsky: The problem isn't the attendance numbers, it's the average age of the fans, which is over 50.  So you basically have a sport that is mostly attended by the middle-aged and old.  Once the geezers start to die off, who knows what will happen..  Unless kids and grandkids pick up the sport (and can afford the sport in some places), there's going to be problems.


When I actually go to a Sox game, most of the fans are either groups of yutes or young-to-middle-aged married couples. Maybe it's my team or where I buy tickets (I'm cheap).

fatalvenom: YouTube search "mlb highlights" typically you get "video deleted due to copyright infringement" or college baseball highlights.

That's one way to get younger people interested in your game...take your highlights and good plays off YouTube.

Dumbasses.


I was young not too long ago, and I think MLB has the best video product available on their site. They also have a fair number of videos on the official MLB channel on YouTube.
 
2014-03-31 08:50:40 PM  

Krustofsky: The problem isn't the attendance numbers, it's the average age of the fans, which is over 50.  So you basically have a sport that is mostly attended by the middle-aged and old.  Once the geezers start to die off, who knows what will happen..  Unless kids and grandkids pick up the sport (and can afford the sport in some places), there's going to be problems.


For those reasons I predict soccer eclipses baseball in the next 25 years. Not to say that MLB will go away, but it will be increasingly niche. The World Series will be played on the upper 600s of the cable lineup as opposed to Fox.
 
2014-03-31 09:34:24 PM  
Baseball is the ideal game for radio. A grounder to short. A pop up to right. They all look pretty much exactly alike. So, you can follow it along pretty well in your head.

I'm flabbergasted by that attendance chart. I can't tell you the last time I heard someone talk about a baseball game.

/Quit playing immediately after trying to stand in the box against a curve ball.
//May 1963,
 
2014-03-31 10:30:48 PM  

skrame: When I actually go to a Sox game, most of the fans are either groups of yutes or young-to-middle-aged married couples. Maybe it's my team or where I buy tickets (I'm cheap).


Chicago Sox?

I haven't been to Boston to see the Red Sox in several years since moving out of New England, but I used to be able to go to 5-6 games a year before for a few years before the 2004 season.  Now I fear the prices are too high even if I did live closer.

I think too a part of being able to afford the sport comes in the equipment cost as well.  Baseball is not a cheap sport to play.


yakmans_dad: /Quit playing immediately after trying to stand in the box against a curve ball.


Didn't try out Jobu, eh?  Curve balls were a big part of why I didn't get any higher than rec-league baseball at 16.
 
2014-03-31 11:56:44 PM  

yakmans_dad: I'm flabbergasted by that attendance chart. I can't tell you the last time I heard someone talk about a baseball game.


Add games to the schedule, add teams to the league, add rounds to the playoffs not just to make more teams have a chance, but literally add playoff games to the schedule...voila! Attendance increases!
 
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