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(Detroit Free Press)   Traffic snarled up because of giant sinkhole in Detroit, but I repeat myself   (freep.com) divider line 26
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2014-03-31 02:59:30 PM
Latimer said he thinks it could have been started by a collapsed sewer pipe.

I wouldn't have called the leadership in Detroit something that nice.
 
2014-03-31 03:01:43 PM
Dear Mr. Fantasy

play us a tune
something to make us all forget we live in Detroit
 
2014-03-31 03:02:18 PM
A terrain so rugged, so treacherous, no country will claim it.
 
2014-03-31 03:03:05 PM
www.biography.com
 
2014-03-31 03:08:17 PM

gfid: Dear Mr. Fantasy

play us a tune
something to make us all forget we live in Detroit


Have some "medicated goo".
 
2014-03-31 03:13:49 PM
Goddamnitsomuch.

So sick of the roads here.
 
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2014-03-31 03:18:28 PM
Traffic snarled up because of giant sinkhole in that is Detroit.

FTFY
 
2014-03-31 03:22:23 PM

megarian: Goddamnitsomuch.

So sick of the roads here.


I visited my parents for the 1st time in a few months this past weekend.  Have they gotten worse?  I don't remember them being THAT bad.
 
2014-03-31 03:23:06 PM
To all of the people who've never been here and make fun of it, suck it. There's really bad areas, yeah, like most cities. We've had the crappiest of crappy governments and the state out all it's eggs in the auto basket, not the peoples fault. The downtown area and soon to be cork town are better than most major cities. Evidenced today alone by opening day for the tigers, 100,000+ people. Lived down there for 5 years, go back all the time, feel safe, have a blast. Can't say that about some of the other cities I've been to like Chicago, Miami, Phoenix and St. Louis...
 
2014-03-31 03:25:57 PM

MichiganFTL: We've electedhad the crappiest of crappy governments...


FTFY.
 
2014-03-31 03:33:05 PM
I mean we're in hell, what am I gonna do send him to Detroit?
 
2014-03-31 03:34:08 PM

LL316: megarian: Goddamnitsomuch.

So sick of the roads here.

I visited my parents for the 1st time in a few months this past weekend.  Have they gotten worse?  I don't remember them being THAT bad.


It's almost not worth driving. At least where I am. I went out to Oakland county and holy crap. It's simply astonishing and dangerous. They are significantly worse, even since December.

But IT'S 55 AMERICAN DEGREES RIGHT NOW so I don't give a f*ck. Drinking on the porch already. Barefoot and in sunshine. This is amazing.
 
2014-03-31 03:38:23 PM

MichiganFTL: To all of the people who've never been here and make fun of it, suck it.


I'm from Alabama.  Don't except sympathy.

As for Detroit, part of me thinks an entrepreneur could go into Detroit and buy a few dozen blocks at $900 per house, raze them all, and build a thriving something, but the city and state government would no doubt find all sorts of laws to prevent it from happening.  If they didn't, the cost of the security forces to prevent the locals from stealing everything that wasn't nailed down (unless they stole some hammers and pry bars first) would be exorbitant.

But the sinkholes make that idea all the more risky.
 
2014-03-31 03:44:28 PM
For some reason, not having a (good) pic of the inside of the hole leaves me wanting.
 
2014-03-31 03:45:38 PM
don't fight it, feed it,  feed it,  feed it!!!
 
2014-03-31 03:46:22 PM

MichiganFTL: To all of the people who've never been here and make fun of it, suck it. There's really bad areas, yeah, like most cities. We've had the crappiest of crappy governments and the state out all it's eggs in the auto basket, not the peoples fault. The downtown area and soon to be cork town are better than most major cities. Evidenced today alone by opening day for the tigers, 100,000+ people. Lived down there for 5 years, go back all the time, feel safe, have a blast. Can't say that about some of the other cities I've been to like Chicago, Miami, Phoenix and St. Louis...


I've been to Detroit.  It's everything people say about it.  I've also been to Camden, NJ.  Detroit is only different because it's bigger and it's worse.  It's a terrible place and I think the only way I survived is because I drove fast and got the hell out of one bad neighborhood after another.  I've been to Philadelphia too and you know those bad parts of Philly?  Well, think that all over an entire city without the Liberty Bell or the Cheese Steaks.  Some of the worst things I've ever seen were in Detroit.  It's truly a horrible place.  Detroit (rock city) is the US's Chernobyl.
 
2014-03-31 04:00:51 PM
I put in four years there for a job. I will never go back if I can help it. I won't even do a connecting flight through their airport.

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2014-03-31 04:04:16 PM

MichiganFTL: To all of the people who've never been here and make fun of it, suck it. There's really bad areas, yeah, like most cities. We've had the crappiest of crappy governments and the state out all it's eggs in the auto basket, not the peoples fault. The downtown area and soon to be cork town are better than most major cities. Evidenced today alone by opening day for the tigers, 100,000+ people. Lived down there for 5 years, go back all the time, feel safe, have a blast. Can't say that about some of the other cities I've been to like Chicago, Miami, Phoenix and St. Louis...



All large cities have areas to be avoided, but some places are like you just said - it's easier to list the places it's OK to go to instead of listing all the places to be avoided. Like the Green Zone in Baghdad.

I've been to Detroit, Chicago, and Miami. I also had to spend some time working in fun places like Gary, IN, Newark, NJ. Once I was doing some work in Long Beach and my company booked my hotel room in Compton. I have yet to spend time in someplace with a bad reputation that didn't live up to it in some way while I was there.
 
2014-03-31 04:05:06 PM
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I will show you how to snarl traffic
 
2014-03-31 04:43:50 PM
I love that article. It's got all the classics:

"It's not a safe situation," he said.

"You see stuff like this on the news, but you don't think it could happen where you live," Troy said.
 
2014-03-31 05:37:05 PM
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2014-03-31 07:34:01 PM

steve42: MichiganFTL: To all of the people who've never been here and make fun of it, suck it.

I'm from Alabama.  Don't except sympathy.

As for Detroit, part of me thinks an entrepreneur could go into Detroit and buy a few dozen blocks at $900 per house, raze them all, and build a thriving something, but the city and state government would no doubt find all sorts of laws to prevent it from happening.  If they didn't, the cost of the security forces to prevent the locals from stealing everything that wasn't nailed down (unless they stole some hammers and pry bars first) would be exorbitant.

But the sinkholes make that idea all the more risky.


Detroit wouldn't stop any entrepreneur from building, the only thing businessmen would have to fear from the local government is constantly wet feet from being kissed all day.  I can't say anything about the criminals being stupid, but every big city has criminals that would love to rip off a job site.  You don't believe me, have you seen Rehab Addict?  She did a house in Detroit, and where she had gotten a house for a dollar, Detroit gave her two houses for a dollar.  Mind you, one had to be torn down, but that left a big yard for the area.  $900 per house is actually way above what they are charging.  I heard prices ranging from $1 to $200.
 
2014-03-31 08:36:22 PM

lack of warmth: Detroit wouldn't stop any entrepreneur from building, the only thing businessmen would have to fear from the local government is constantly wet feet from being kissed all day.  I can't say anything about the criminals being stupid, but every big city has criminals that would love to rip off a job site.  You don't believe me, have you seen Rehab Addict?  She did a house in Detroit, and where she had gotten a house for a dollar, Detroit gave her two houses for a dollar.  Mind you, one had to be torn down, but that left a big yard for the area.  $900 per house is actually way above what they are charging.  I heard prices ranging from $1 to $200.


Perhaps.  I don't have much faith in government anywhere making it easy for entrepreneurs to take advantage of the disadvantaged communities.  More likely though, the big issue would be the fact that there are still people eking out a living of some sort in those blighted areas.  An entrepreneur would need the area to be vacant, owning 95% of the property wouldn't help, and the remaining 5% would be a mixture of "I'm not gonna go" and "If you're going to get me out, you'll have to buy me out" scenarios.  To avoid that, the money-men would have to quietly buy the properties using shell corporations so the public didn't know they were all being acquired by the same group, or else the whole game would be up.

Here in Alabama about 15 years ago, a small city condemned a few houses using eminent domain once the developers owned everything else, citing the overall economic impact of the developments. It went to the Supreme Court and I guess they won because there are now 2 large shopping centers in that area, but it was a long process and it cost more money than they planned to acquire the last few houses. The people who didn't want to sell cried "Racist" and nearly killed the whole deal.
 
2014-03-31 09:46:02 PM
Good subby. +1 internets for you.
 
2014-03-31 09:47:19 PM
Not to worry once the Devil finds out Detroit is falling into hell he'll plug the hole.
 
2014-03-31 10:24:38 PM

lack of warmth: Detroit wouldn't stop any entrepreneur from building, the only thing businessmen would have to fear from the local government is constantly wet feet from being kissed all day.


Yeah, that's what the government of Detroit claims, to reel the suckers in. Then when the entrepreneur buys a property, they suddenly get a multi-million dollar bill for back taxes owed on it.

/Detroit needs investment
//they don't really care about legality when extracting it from people they blame for their decline
///and they blame EVERYONE for their decline except themselves
 
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