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(Daily Mail)   Seekers of the holy grail say they never expected the Spanish exhibition   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 77
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2014-03-31 11:30:08 AM
Nobody expects the Spanish Exhibition...
 
2014-03-31 11:39:25 AM
They chose... poorly
 
2014-03-31 11:59:21 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-31 12:02:10 PM
It belongs in a museum... Oh, right.
 
2014-03-31 12:13:47 PM
That is not the cup of a carpenter
 
2014-03-31 12:16:36 PM
Will the comfy chair be on display?
 
2014-03-31 12:38:35 PM
Shese...
 
2014-03-31 01:01:16 PM
But in fact, there is 'no doubt' it contains the cup which touched the lips of Jesus Christ, two historians claim.

 I do not think that means what you think it means.
 
2014-03-31 01:10:51 PM

Bathia_Mapes: That is not the cup of a carpenter


That was my first thought.
 
2014-03-31 01:18:55 PM
Why does it say "Dixie" on it?
 
2014-03-31 01:19:03 PM

Bathia_Mapes: That is not the cup of a carpenter


You people. If there isn't a movie about it, it's not worth knowing, is it?

Mention something out of a Charlton Heston movie and suddenly everybody is a theology scholar.
 
2014-03-31 01:19:24 PM
Wow, that's like the Holy Grail of...um...
 
2014-03-31 01:19:51 PM
Their chief revenue source is tourism...tourism and religion...religion and tourism.... their two revenue sources  are religion and tourism...and plastic baubles from China.... their three revenue sources are religion, tourism, plastic baubles from China...and an almost fanatical devotion to folklore.... Their four...no... amongst their revenue sources...are such elements as tourism, religion.... I'll come in again.
 
2014-03-31 01:20:40 PM

Diogenes: Bathia_Mapes: That is not the cup of a carpenter

That was my first thought.


Mine too.
 
2014-03-31 01:20:45 PM

Diogenes: Bathia_Mapes: That is not the cup of a carpenter

That was my first thought.


They're saying that there's a cup inside the cup. Ie, somebody entombed the original in gold sometime in the last two millennia. Bring out the X-ray machine!

/ it's actually not that uncommon; they'd take the cups of important saints to preserve them.
 
2014-03-31 01:21:02 PM
Wow two scientists who happen to be selling a book can't be biased.  I'm waiting for book two, True Cross: Found in Scottish barn.
 
2014-03-31 01:22:17 PM
When you have to out "scientific research" in quotes you may as well be on Ancient Aliens.
 
2014-03-31 01:23:11 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

Is Frank Zappa gonna have to cap a biatch?
 
2014-03-31 01:25:31 PM
I know lots of guys in construction and this is the typical cup of a carpenter.
remixyourhealth.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-31 01:26:20 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-31 01:28:03 PM

Claude Ballse: Mention something out of a Charlton Heston movie and suddenly everybody is a theology scholar.


Not sure if you're trolling or not (Poe's Law), but please explain a plausible scenario (made up is fine) where Jesus would have had access to a gold/onyx with multiple large stones chalice to drink from while the Romans were closing in on him.

/  Challenge open to anybody.
//  Could be entertaining.
 
2014-03-31 01:31:21 PM
"He said they've already got one!"

i9.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-31 01:31:39 PM

MooseUpNorth: Claude Ballse: Mention something out of a Charlton Heston movie and suddenly everybody is a theology scholar.

Not sure if you're trolling or not (Poe's Law), but please explain a plausible scenario (made up is fine) where Jesus would have had access to a gold/onyx with multiple large stones chalice to drink from while the Romans were closing in on him.

/  Challenge open to anybody.
//  Could be entertaining.


I share yours and everyone else's skepticism..  But the article explains the bedazzling.....
 
2014-03-31 01:32:28 PM
This proves that Jesus drank merlot.
 
2014-03-31 01:33:22 PM

Marcus Aurelius: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x350]


But Jehova starts with a El in Spanish?
 
2014-03-31 01:33:50 PM
img4.wikia.nocookie.net

"Oh, yes. It's more beautiful than I'd ever imagined. This certainly is the cup of the King of Kings."

...waita minute, dammit, wrong movie image...
 
2014-03-31 01:33:54 PM

memtastic: But the article explains the bedazzling.....


Ah. 'Contains'. I (obviously) skimmed the article.
 
2014-03-31 01:35:02 PM

Anayalator: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]


Inquisition? Let's face it, you can't Torqumada anything!
 
2014-03-31 01:35:43 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-31 01:36:14 PM
i.dailymail.co.uk
It's my last supper and my entree is cold. To make it worse, the whole waitstaff is singing "Happy Happy B-day" at the table full of drunks next to me.
/that is one sad, puffy eyed Son of God.
 
2014-03-31 01:38:35 PM
The onyx vessel made between 200 BC and 100 AD, they claim, is trapped inside a bejewelled medieval chalice.

So it's kinda like this:
www.gleegifts.com
 
2014-03-31 01:39:47 PM
Don't you have to prove Christ actually existed in the first place before you can prove this is a cup he drank out of?
 
2014-03-31 01:42:50 PM

iheartscotch: Diogenes: Bathia_Mapes: That is not the cup of a carpenter

That was my first thought.

They're saying that there's a cup inside the cup. Ie, somebody entombed the original in gold sometime in the last two millennia. Bring out the X-ray machine!

/ it's actually not that uncommon; they'd take the cups of important saints to preserve them.


Ahhh.

Is it another gold cup or the jelly glasses Da Vinci depicted, I wonder?
 
2014-03-31 01:44:20 PM

MooseUpNorth: Claude Ballse: Mention something out of a Charlton Heston movie and suddenly everybody is a theology scholar.

Not sure if you're trolling or not (Poe's Law), but please explain a plausible scenario (made up is fine) where Jesus would have had access to a gold/onyx with multiple large stones chalice to drink from while the Romans were closing in on him.

/  Challenge open to anybody.
//  Could be entertaining.


It's a quote from Dogma, you dolt.
 
2014-03-31 01:46:42 PM

Slypork: I know lots of guys in construction and this is the typical cup of a carpenter.
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That's the official cup of my alma mater, the red Solo cup. I only learned recently all those lines and intentions serve a purpose... Bottom line is two ounces, for a shot. Next line is 4, for a glass of wine, and the top one is 12oz.
 
2014-03-31 01:48:52 PM
The onyx chalice has been sat in the Basilica of San Isidoro in Leon, north Spain, for 1000 years


Its funny, just when everyone is running around trying to build churches coming out of the dark ages, suddenly artifacts that haven't been seen for 800-1000 years are all discovered at around the same time (a church often used an iconic relic as an excuse to ask for funding to build or expand).

This cup, Mary's Belt in Prato, The Shroud in Tourin, etc, all are magically discovered when cities are starting to reform, and each city wants to build an opulent cathedral in a dick-waving competition with each other. All they need is a good reason...
 
2014-03-31 01:52:38 PM

Satanus Maximus: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 271x398]

"Oh, yes. It's more beautiful than I'd ever imagined. This certainly is the cup of the King of Kings."

...waita minute, dammit, wrong movie image...


here let me try

img2.wikia.nocookie.net

General Viers you may start your landing ...

/aww crap
 
2014-03-31 01:53:17 PM
The cup would have been owned by the venue or the caterer, and it probably would have been washed and re-used for other events - unless one of the disciples nicked it.
 
2014-03-31 01:54:54 PM
I have a sliver from the true cross

/ow
 
2014-03-31 01:58:59 PM
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Really?  First with the "it would not be made out of gold" ?
 
2014-03-31 01:59:10 PM
Well give that the "Holy Grail" is really the Coire (cauldron) of Dagda witht he serial numbers filed off to make the myth Christian.....Imma gonna go with no, no they did not find the grail.

If you accept a historical Jesus and even posit a last supper as described in the Bible, the tableware from that party wasn't preserved by anyone. The supper was held, according to the bible, at what amounted to the rented banquet room of a 1st century inn and restaurant.
 
2014-03-31 02:00:16 PM

whither_apophis: I have a sliver from the true cross

/ow


Is that a genuine sliver or is it a fake sliver venerated by believers? How long has it been venerated by believers, because if it is less than 500 years old I'm going to have to purify it in the blood of a virgin cat on the night of a full moon when Jupiter and Uranus align in order to use it in my beast summoning ritual.


/Christianity it is exactly like that.
 
2014-03-31 02:00:38 PM

Satanus Maximus: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 271x398]

"Oh, yes. It's more beautiful than I'd ever imagined. This certainly is the cup of the King of Kings."

...waita minute, dammit, wrong movie image...



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2014-03-31 02:00:41 PM

Claude Ballse: Bathia_Mapes: That is not the cup of a carpenter

You people. If there isn't a movie about it, it's not worth knowing, is it?

Mention something out of a Charlton Heston movie and suddenly everybody is a theology scholar.


Alan Rickman : best in Harry Potter, Dogma, or Die Hard?
 
2014-03-31 02:01:31 PM

i.r.id10t: Anayalator: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]

Inquisition? Let's face it, you can't Torqumada anything!


I know i'm getting old because i get the reference.
 
2014-03-31 02:01:58 PM

SquiggsIN: [img.fark.net image 512x768]

Really?  First with the "it would not be made out of gold" ?


Onxy isn't gold. The onyx cup is held in a gold frame. It was dressed up like most reliquaries. You know how you don't see finger bones hanging off strings but rather in a class or crystal vessel gilded in gold?

/yes I know, just felt like ruining the joke
 
2014-03-31 02:04:03 PM
Er glass.
 
2014-03-31 02:09:13 PM

maltedmothball: Satanus Maximus: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 271x398]

"Oh, yes. It's more beautiful than I'd ever imagined. This certainly is the cup of the King of Kings."

...waita minute, dammit, wrong movie image...

here let me try

[img2.wikia.nocookie.net image 320x240]

General Viers you may start your landing ...

/aww crap


Hmm. Getting closer. Perhaps:


i.lv3.hbo.com
 
2014-03-31 02:14:37 PM

JayCab: maltedmothball: Satanus Maximus: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 271x398]

"Oh, yes. It's more beautiful than I'd ever imagined. This certainly is the cup of the King of Kings."

...waita minute, dammit, wrong movie image...

here let me try

[img2.wikia.nocookie.net image 320x240]

General Viers you may start your landing ...

/aww crap

Hmm. Getting closer. Perhaps:


[i.lv3.hbo.com image 850x478]


Can I help?

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-31 02:14:51 PM
I like how the article claims they have proof without bothering to explain what that proof is.

Oh, they have a book coming out. That explains it.

/Daily Fail, indeed
 
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