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2014-03-31 12:35:53 PM  
I just DO NOT CARE!  I care so little in fact that I wrote this post.  In addition, my care is so insubstantial that I will respond to any criticism of my position.  I'll write 50 posts if I have to.

That's just how much I DO NOT CARE!
 
2014-03-31 12:36:29 PM  

ciberido: Cold_Sassy: If she'd just STFU about her sexual preferences and kept them private except to those with whom she'd consider a liaison, she wouldn't have this problem.  Quit yer whining!

Really?  Just stay in the closet?  That tired old canard?  You couldn't think of anything better?


"Quit whining" is Cold Sassy's standard response. It's how she shows how rugged she is. About other people's troubles, I mean.
 
2014-03-31 12:38:21 PM  

mercator_psi: ciberido: ...We get it from both ends...

*titter*


"titter."

*giggity*
 
2014-03-31 12:38:50 PM  

SquiggsIN: I've seen it dozens of times.  It seems that many lesbians and gay men don't want bisexual partners because they are afraid of being cheated on with a member of the opposite gender more than a member of the same gender.  I've seen potentially great relationships halted by the revelation that some one has "dated on both sides in the past."


It is pretty frustrating.  Since coming out as bi, I have felt unwelcome in the gay scene and as a consequence I almost never meet women I can date.  So I don't date women, confirming the stereotype that bi women "always" end up with men.
 
2014-03-31 12:39:36 PM  
What a curse it must be being a bisexual. Can you imagine wanting to f*ck everybody you meet?!- George Carlin

There's a conspiracy going on here. If there's a genetic component to homosexuality then not forcing them into heterosexual unions through social convention will see those traits become rarer. Hence gay acceptance and marriage would cull their traits from the gene pool.

But bisexuals screw up that plan. People with those traits that play both sides? Then they'll never breed the gay out of us humans. And by they, I mean They with a capital T.
 
2014-03-31 12:39:54 PM  

SquiggsIN: HotWingConspiracy: Remove the word "bisexual" from my vocabulary, and I'm instantly more accepted in the lesbian scene; considered more dateable, and trustworthy, even.

That's because they hear "I'm probably going to ditch you for a man at some point" when you tell them you're bi. Right or wrong, the perception is "fickle"/

I think there's a big trust/security component thing here. The expanded pool of threats/competition to your relationship is more than some people wish to deal with.

I've seen it dozens of times.  It seems that many lesbians and gay men don't want bisexual partners because they are afraid of being cheated on with a member of the opposite gender more than a member of the same gender.  I've seen potentially great relationships halted by the revelation that some one has "dated on both sides in the past."


A girlfriend dumped me once because I told her I was bisexual.  This was after she had asked me to move in with her.  She didn't care about how many other women I had slept with.  All that mattered was that I had dated (and might in the future date) guys.

On the other hand, I was once commiserating with a fellow bi woman about this kind of prejudice and her response was "Oh yeah, I totally have to have both a boyfriend and a girlfriend.  I wouldn't limit myself to just one or the other."  I wanted to strangle her.

A few months later the same woman told me her boyfriend and girlfriend had both dumped her.... after they found out about each other.
 
2014-03-31 12:40:13 PM  

bighairyguy: I've known a few bisexuals and the general trait they had in common was amorality, along with a side helping of predatory. Not the kind of people you'd want to associate with, even with your clothes on.


Said he'd give you a call. Didn't. Not unique to bisexuals buddy.
 
2014-03-31 12:41:52 PM  

ByOwlLight: BorgiaGinz: Yup, Bisexual people are basically heterosexuals who like to dip a toe (or other appendages) into the gay pool once in a while. The true test of orientation is not sexual acts, but genuine attraction. Bi guys like to use gay men for fun, but they never, ever fall in love with them. A gay guy might think that he's dating a bi guy, but the bi guy is going to go home to his wife (that he never bothered to mention).

citationneeded.jpg


I THINK BorgiaGinz isn't giving her own opinion so much as relating common stereotypes about bisexuals that, unfortunately, many people believe.  So when you say "citation needed," are you asking her to prove that the stereotypes are TRUE or that they are BELIEVED?
 
2014-03-31 12:42:33 PM  

Crewmannumber6: I have a strict policy of only having sex with people who will let me


Pervert.
 
2014-03-31 12:43:41 PM  

ciberido: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: DjangoStonereaver: I wish I was bisexual, but try as I might, I don't find men sexually attractive.  In fact, I'm amazed that we've
been able to continue on as a species.

Precisely this. On any given night, being bisexual doubles your chances for a date. I could use that edge.

It actually sucks.  A lot of the "mono gays" say bisexuals have it easier because we have "straight privilege" because we can "function" or "pass" as straight anytime we're in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex.  That's about as true as saying a gay person can can "function" or "pass" as straight anytime they're not actually dating anyone.

If you're gay, you're gay 100% of the time, even if you don't happen to have a penis or clitoris in your mouth at that exact moment.  If you're bi, you're bi 100% of the time, even if you don't happen to be naked in bed with someone of the same sex at that moment.

Being bisexual isn't the best of both worlds.  If anything, it's the worst of both worlds.  We get it from both ends.  Homophones hate us as much or more than they do "mono" gays, but we're "not gay enough" or "in denial" or "have straight privilege" in the minds of the rest of the lbgtq community.

That said, if you offered me a magic pill which would make me non bisexual, I don't know that I'd take it.


wingedkat: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Precisely this. On any given night, being bisexual doubles your chances for a date. I could use that edge.

/if only guys didn't look so... dudey

yeah, that's really not how it works.

Just as most straight people aren't attracted to everyone with a penis or vagina, bi people aren't suddenly attracted to everyone of both genders.  Most bi people I've talked to are as discriminating as straight people, but the attractive qualities are not dependant on gender.  

Or worse; for example I tend to be attracted to men and women with feminine qualities, so a large portion of people I'm attracted to are straight women and gay men, leaving me only a very small chance of finding a date.


Interesting perspectives, both. I owe both of you an apology for the glibness in my post. Honestly, I hadn't really thought about this much, so I'm a biatchagrined that my ignorance is showing. I appreciate the civility that you showed me in your corrections, as you could have justifiably been offended and replied accordingly. Now I'm enlightened on the subject and not defensive about it. Thanks.
 
2014-03-31 12:44:06 PM  

bighairyguy: I've known a few bisexuals armadillos and the general trait they had in common was amorality, along with a side helping of predatory. Not the kind of people animals you'd want to associate with, even with your clothes on.


FTFY.  You're welcome.
 
2014-03-31 12:44:41 PM  

grokca: JPINFV: Why does every little thing need to have a culture attached to it? What's next, brown hair culture?

Brown haired people are all sluts.


As a brown-haired person... yes. Yes we are.

Any takers?
 
2014-03-31 12:45:13 PM  
Bisexuals are "slutty."  They're men in denial about their homosexuality."  . . . this is what the mainstream media would have you believe about us.

Actually, no. I've never heard that.   Ever.  So if that's your opening premise and the first sentence of your argument, I'm not much interested in the balance of your spiel.
 
2014-03-31 12:45:34 PM  

Cletus C.: bighairyguy: I've known a few bisexuals and the general trait they had in common was amorality, along with a side helping of predatory. Not the kind of people you'd want to associate with, even with your clothes on.

Said he'd give you a call. Didn't. Not unique to bisexuals buddy.


3.bp.blogspot.com
"OH-HOOOOO!!! IS FUNNY BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE RAINBOW BUMPER STICKER ON CAR SECERTLY CRAVES THROBBING COCKS!"
 
2014-03-31 12:46:31 PM  

MrMouse: bighairyguy: I've known a few bisexuals armadillos and the general trait they had in common was amorality, along with a side helping of predatory. Not the kind of people animals you'd want to associate with, even with your clothes on.

FTFY.  You're welcome.

The filthy things do carry leprosy so yeah, don't associate with them. If you eat them, don't prepare them, that's still not 100% safe.
 
2014-03-31 12:46:54 PM  

brimed03: mercator_psi: ...And of course, it goes to 11. That would be for people with armadillos down their trousers.

Thank you for recognizing our existence. It's nice to feel validated.


It's a surprisingly underreported population.

Although everyone knows the armadillos themselves are always up for it.
 
2014-03-31 12:47:23 PM  
This seems to be one of those things that I hear people always complain about, and I have never actually seen happen.

Come on, bisexual women. You hit the sexual preference lottery. You have more available compatible partners than anyone else, and are the most desirable. Just learn to be happy about that and stop being offended by innocuous questions.
 
2014-03-31 12:47:31 PM  
 
2014-03-31 12:47:58 PM  

dragonchild: Lady J: sexuality is a continuum, imo, from solely fancying men at one end to solely fancying women at the other (im sure im not the first person to say it). some people are right at one end, others are in the middle. most are a lot nearer one end than the other, but with a bit of wriggle room. there's more women drifting towards the middke than men, as they care less about people thinking they're gay (oh n0es!), and let's face it, buttsecks is pretty intrusive

The spectrum itself is rather misleading.  The one thing that struck me about bisexuals is just how diverse they are.  I mean it makes sense if you think about it, but if you're a switch hitter you have two entirely different sets of preferences and it's almost never portrayed accurately.


There's also a distinction you can draw between bisexuals and pansexuals, if you want to talk about differences.

As I understand it, a "not-pansexual bisexual" likes their men to be "manly" and their women to be "womanly," with less attraction to androgyny.

The analogy I sometimes use is: "I love steak and I love ice cream, but I don't want steak à la mode"
 
2014-03-31 12:48:22 PM  

SquiggsIN: bighairyguy: I've known a few bisexuals and the general trait they had in common was amorality, along with a side helping of predatory. Not the kind of people you'd want to associate with, even with your clothes on.

Oh isn't that cute the way you think everyone should think the way you do?


In fairness, he didn't say everyone should think that way, or even that he thinks that way about all bisexuals. He only observed that the few he knows share some negative traits.

Of course, in a thread about sex and gender identity, labels, and bisexual traits, it was a pretty thoughtless/troll-ly/stupid observation to make. Location and context matter.
 
2014-03-31 12:48:32 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Or people could, I don't know, grow the fark up and stop trying to put neat little labels on everything and forcing everyone else to fit into their tiny preconceived notion of how the world works. Also "slut shaming"....stop it, that shiat is not cool.


I'm right there with you; I'm more about "slut honoring". Without women of somewhat loose moral fiber, I would never have had sex & I like sex. I would most likely have gone on a killing spree if it weren't for those brave & heroic women inviting me into their boudoir. On behalf of humanity: Thank you for your service!
 
2014-03-31 12:49:37 PM  
Everyone I've been involved with has been bisexual to some degree, and androgynous to an even greater degree. Bisexuals tend to find each other despite a lack of a "bisexual subculture".
 
2014-03-31 12:49:51 PM  
ciberido: ...On the other hand, I was once commiserating with a fellow bi woman about this kind of prejudice and her response was "Oh yeah, I totally have to have both a boyfriend and a girlfriend.  I wouldn't limit myself to just one or the other."  I wanted to strangle her.

A few months later the same woman told me her boyfriend and girlfriend had both dumped her.... after they found out about each other.


This reminds me of some things that I've heard from poly people. It's possible to make that kind of relationship work but you have to be honest with your partners.
 
2014-03-31 12:50:39 PM  

ciberido: dragonchild: Lady J: sexuality is a continuum, imo, from solely fancying men at one end to solely fancying women at the other (im sure im not the first person to say it). some people are right at one end, others are in the middle. most are a lot nearer one end than the other, but with a bit of wriggle room. there's more women drifting towards the middke than men, as they care less about people thinking they're gay (oh n0es!), and let's face it, buttsecks is pretty intrusive

The spectrum itself is rather misleading.  The one thing that struck me about bisexuals is just how diverse they are.  I mean it makes sense if you think about it, but if you're a switch hitter you have two entirely different sets of preferences and it's almost never portrayed accurately.

There's also a distinction you can draw between bisexuals and pansexuals, if you want to talk about differences.

As I understand it, a "not-pansexual bisexual" likes their men to be "manly" and their women to be "womanly," with less attraction to androgyny.

The analogy I sometimes use is: "I love steak and I love ice cream, but I don't want steak à la mode"


And this is what I meant with the confusing category thing. It can't just be a preference you have, you have to name yourself as a subculture.

Even to a liberal lib libby like me, it's confusing as hell.
 
2014-03-31 12:50:52 PM  

Cletus C.: bighairyguy: I've known a few bisexuals and the general trait they had in common was amorality, along with a side helping of predatory. Not the kind of people you'd want to associate with, even with your clothes on.

Said he'd give you a call. Didn't. Not unique to bisexuals buddy.


Now *that's* how you respond to a troll!
 
2014-03-31 12:52:22 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Bisexuals are "slutty."  They're men in denial about their homosexuality."  . . . this is what the mainstream media would have you believe about us.

Actually, no. I've never heard that.   Ever.  So if that's your opening premise and the first sentence of your argument, I'm not much interested in the balance of your spiel.


The statements in quotes contained links. This article wasn't a personal letter to you.
 
2014-03-31 12:52:33 PM  
What I learned on Fark today:

Stay away from straight, brown haired armadillos that work as plumbers.  They are goddamn filthy whores!

What are we talking about again?

Sorry, I'll let myself out of the thread.
 
2014-03-31 12:53:37 PM  
Is everything a culture now? Yoga pants culture. Whole wheat bread culture. Little league baseball culture.

Shaddup already!

Get over it. Who cares what your sexual orientation is.....
 
2014-03-31 12:53:54 PM  

ciberido: ByOwlLight: BorgiaGinz: Yup, Bisexual people are basically heterosexuals who like to dip a toe (or other appendages) into the gay pool once in a while. The true test of orientation is not sexual acts, but genuine attraction. Bi guys like to use gay men for fun, but they never, ever fall in love with them. A gay guy might think that he's dating a bi guy, but the bi guy is going to go home to his wife (that he never bothered to mention).

citationneeded.jpg

I THINK BorgiaGinz isn't giving her own opinion so much as relating common stereotypes about bisexuals that, unfortunately, many people believe.  So when you say "citation needed," are you asking her to prove that the stereotypes are TRUE or that they are BELIEVED?


IF that's what Borgia meant, that's not how it came across. Not to ByOwl, not to me and, I suspect, not to most everyone else based on both the responses and lack of responses it got.
 
2014-03-31 12:56:21 PM  

MrMouse: bighairyguy: I've known a few bisexuals armadillos and the general trait they had in common was amorality, along with a side helping of predatory. Not the kind of people animals you'd want to associate with, even with your clothes on.

FTFY.  You're welcome.


As a person of armadillo orientation, I can confirm the truthiness of this.

Heartless shells, all of them.
 
2014-03-31 12:56:36 PM  
Lady J: "sexuality is a continuum, imo, from solely fancying men at one end to solely fancying women at the other"

Look at all the wacky porn that have become *genres*.  It's not even a continuum.
It's a giant series of check boxes.  And it isn't remotely limited to partner gender preference.
 
2014-03-31 01:01:11 PM  
As a ginger guy Im pretty sure if I played for both teams it would just double down on rejection.
 
2014-03-31 01:01:31 PM  
images.sodahead.com

GIS says this is what a bisexual woman looks like
 
2014-03-31 01:01:55 PM  

ciberido: A girlfriend dumped me once because I told her I was bisexual.  This was after she had asked me to move in with her.  She didn't care about how many other women I had slept with.  All that mattered was that I had dated (and might in the future date) guys.

On the other hand, I was once commiserating with a fellow bi woman about this kind of prejudice and her response was "Oh yeah, I totally have to have both a boyfriend and a girlfriend.  I wouldn't limit myself to just one or the other."  I wanted to strangle her.

A few months later the same woman told me her boyfriend and girlfriend had both dumped her.... after they found out about each other.


I also learned the hard way that I needed to let potential girlfriends know that I was bi early on.  It is frustrating how hard it is to convince people that bisexual is not the same thing as polyamorous.

I've run into both men and women with the attitude of needing both a boyfriend and girlfriend "because they are bi", and I always want to shake some sense into them.  They may be bi, but they are also polyamorous and deceiving their lovers about it.  

There's nothing wrong with being polyamorous, but no one has the right to be a lying sh*t about it.
 
2014-03-31 01:03:42 PM  

Cletus C.: bighairyguy: I've known a few bisexuals and the general trait they had in common was amorality, along with a side helping of predatory. Not the kind of people you'd want to associate with, even with your clothes on.

Said he'd give you a call. Didn't. Not unique to bisexuals buddy.


Ha, got me.  I'm grammatically ambiguous, I'll conjugate anything.
 
2014-03-31 01:04:07 PM  
This has next to nothing to do with the train of conversation, but I really think the next novel I start writing is going to have two women (haven't decided whether they'll be lesbian or bisexual) as the main Battle Couple, so to speak (look it up on TV Tropes).

/first novel (unfinished and unreleased) delves into this somewhat
//typical boy meets girl scenario, but the characters are rather open; she has a FWB relationship with her best friend, while he has the same with his ex and may or may not have had a dalliance with a transsexual woman
///of course, all of this takes a backseat to the fact that PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO KILL THEM
 
2014-03-31 01:04:56 PM  

wingedkat: SquiggsIN: I've seen it dozens of times.  It seems that many lesbians and gay men don't want bisexual partners because they are afraid of being cheated on with a member of the opposite gender more than a member of the same gender.  I've seen potentially great relationships halted by the revelation that some one has "dated on both sides in the past."

It is pretty frustrating.  Since coming out as bi, I have felt unwelcome in the gay scene and as a consequence I almost never meet women I can date.  So I don't date women, confirming the stereotype that bi women "always" end up with men.

 I'm of of the opinion it's damn near impossible to find a non-bisexual person truly comfortable with a bisexual partner.
Thus, bisexual males also mostly end up with females, and just don't express their bisexuality.  It's also why there's no "culture" for us... because we *can* "blend-in" in a psycho-sexual-social sense, we take the path of least resistance, and settle for less-than-fully-fulfilled sex lives with occasional nice surprises.Also, I have this theory:Relatively unenlightened hetero and homo people can abstractly understand one another: they are both attracted to one sex exclusively.  Even the dullest hetero man can understand homosexuality on the level of "he likes guys, in the same way girls like guys."  They might think it's wrong, but at least they understand it as something built-in: they didn't choose to like girls, and homos don't choose to like guys.  Bisexuality is outside of this: being attracted to "both" is beyond that level of abstraction.  Furthermore, the bisexual is more likely to be viewed as unprincipled or amoral: if they don't have rules about who they will have sex with like everyone else, what other rules might they not believe in?  It's almost as if hetero people think "well, at least the homosexual can't help himself.  He's just born that way, but he's a bisexual, he's choosing to be perverted, and simply doesn't care".
 
2014-03-31 01:05:18 PM  

mercator_psi: brimed03: mercator_psi: ...And of course, it goes to 11. That would be for people with armadillos down their trousers.

Thank you for recognizing our existence. It's nice to feel validated.

It's a surprisingly underreported population.

Although everyone knows the armadillos themselves are always up for it.


You'd think it would be news, but the only coverage I've seen was on our recent convention at the Albuquerque Holiday Inn. And *that* was mis-reported as the *Anteater* Lovers of America meeting!

/not that those anteaters aren't sexy too
//surprisingly little overlap in the communities but we all get along
///the article wasn't even really convention coverage, it was a music critic covering our booked entertainment act: "Billy and the Boingers"... you've probably never heard of them. They released one album in the 80s.
 
2014-03-31 01:05:50 PM  
omgwhothehellcares.jpg
 
2014-03-31 01:07:32 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Zeb Hesselgresser: Bisexuals are "slutty."  They're men in denial about their homosexuality."  . . . this is what the mainstream media would have you believe about us.

Actually, no. I've never heard that.   Ever.  So if that's your opening premise and the first sentence of your argument, I'm not much interested in the balance of your spiel.

The statements in quotes contained links. This article wasn't a personal letter to you.


The first of which was a .youtube video, two of the following were HuffPo links.

However, you are correct, I did take the way you think I did.  However, upon re-examination, I still reject her premise.

Her war on Chasing Amy is bullshiat.
 
2014-03-31 01:07:40 PM  

SquiggsIN: Shadowknight: Especially something like sexuality and gender assignment, which is traditionally rather binary.

... and research has shown for decades that tradition is wrong because sexuality is not binary.


You don't even need research. You just need to go look at non-Western cultures, where non-binary gender assignment is relatively common.

Though I guess that is a type of research.
 
2014-03-31 01:10:14 PM  

SquiggsIN: MrMouse: bighairyguy: I've known a few bisexuals  armadillos and the general trait they had in common was amorality, along with a side helping of predatory. Not the kind of people animals you'd want to associate with, even with your clothes on.

FTFY.  You're welcome.

and they can carry leprosy!


Are you telling me that my dick is going to fall off now?
 
2014-03-31 01:11:26 PM  
The thing is you can't really complain that people won't date you based on whatever reasons they like. We're not talking about systemic discrimination, just jealous and insecure people, so I can't get too mad. They have the right to date whoever based on whatever. If someone's going to dump you for that shiat then they're probably doing you a favor. It obviously wasn't going to work with such a disparity in open-mindedness anyhow.
 
2014-03-31 01:12:47 PM  

SquiggsIN: BorgiaGinz: Shadowknight: Skleenar: I don't get the whole "bisexuality doesn't exist" thing.  Is this some sort of mechanism to force same-sex attracted people into the gay demographic so it swells their numbers, or is is some hetero reaction to find some smaller group to shame (because it's a "choice") because we can't do that to the gays anymore?

I just never got where this came from.

Maybe a little of that, but I think for a lot of days that were brave enough to be "out" it felt like bisexuality was a way for more timid gay people to be out while not being all the way. Like they are hedging their bets or something. Like they were still too ashamed of themselves and/or the rest of the gay community to actually identify as such.

Yup, Bisexual people are basically heterosexuals who like to dip a toe (or other appendages) into the gay pool once in a while. The true test of orientation is not sexual acts, but genuine attraction. Bi guys like to use gay men for fun, but they never, ever fall in love with them. A gay guy might think that he's dating a bi guy, but the bi guy is going to go home to his wife  (that he never bothered to mention).

Were you going for dumbest comment in the thread?  You're pretty close to it.


Been there, got the experiences, your opinion is immaterial.
 
2014-03-31 01:13:22 PM  

wingedkat: I've run into both men and women with the attitude of needing both a boyfriend and girlfriend "because they are bi", and I always want to shake some sense into them. They may be bi, but they are also polyamorous and deceiving their lovers about it.

There's nothing wrong with being polyamorous, but no one has the right to be a lying sh*t about it.


I've met a lot of guys like this. They say it "doesn't count" as cheating. People are selfish jerks.
 
2014-03-31 01:13:41 PM  
And I'm a guy.
 
2014-03-31 01:13:51 PM  

ciberido: Homophones hate us


What a homophone might look like.

rlv.zcache.com

/knows what you meant, couldnt resist
 
2014-03-31 01:14:24 PM  

ciberido: dragonchild: Lady J: sexuality is a continuum, imo, from solely fancying men at one end to solely fancying women at the other (im sure im not the first person to say it). some people are right at one end, others are in the middle. most are a lot nearer one end than the other, but with a bit of wriggle room. there's more women drifting towards the middke than men, as they care less about people thinking they're gay (oh n0es!), and let's face it, buttsecks is pretty intrusive

The spectrum itself is rather misleading.  The one thing that struck me about bisexuals is just how diverse they are.  I mean it makes sense if you think about it, but if you're a switch hitter you have two entirely different sets of preferences and it's almost never portrayed accurately.

There's also a distinction you can draw between bisexuals and pansexuals, if you want to talk about differences.

As I understand it, a "not-pansexual bisexual" likes their men to be "manly" and their women to be "womanly," with less attraction to androgyny.

The analogy I sometimes use is: "I love steak and I love ice cream, but I don't want steak à la mode"


This is the first explanation of why people (me apparently) should use the term "pansexual" that I've understood.   But I'm monogamous and currently out of the dating game so it isn't as necessary for me to label myself correctly.
 
2014-03-31 01:15:00 PM  
Great title, subb.
 
2014-03-31 01:15:35 PM  

pacified: omgwhothehellcares.jpg


Thank you for covering this obligatory but entirely self-centered and dumb Fark meme.

/if nobody cared, the link wouldn't have been approved
//but go on imagining only your values and interests matter
 
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