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2014-03-31 01:35:53 PM  
Who takes mashed potatoes on a plane?
 
2014-03-31 01:39:22 PM  
Isn't it technically an emulsion?

/drtfa
 
2014-03-31 01:49:09 PM  
This means something...
 
2014-03-31 02:05:52 PM  
McDonalds ice cream cones are also liquids, according to the TSA. They were nonplussed when I argued that it would only become a liquid if the line was too long.

Also, fun fact, I was told that if my Tillamook cheese spread was not frozen, they would have confiscated it. So next time, freeze your mashed potatoes.
 
2014-03-31 02:16:44 PM  
What about tater salad?

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2014-03-31 02:49:30 PM  
If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...
 
2014-03-31 02:50:45 PM  
This raises another question: if you freeze your shampoo before you take it through TSA, they'll consider it a solid, right?
 
2014-03-31 02:51:03 PM  

BizarreMan: Who takes mashed potatoes on a plane?


Counter-point:

Why wouldn't you take mashed potatoes onto a plane? What if you get hungry?
 
2014-03-31 02:51:42 PM  
And yet there never seemed to be any question as to whether or not they were in fact mashed potatoes.....
 
2014-03-31 02:53:14 PM  

iheartscotch: BizarreMan: Who takes mashed potatoes on a plane?

Counter-point:

Why wouldn't you take mashed potatoes onto a plane? What if you get hungry?


I like the way you think.
 
2014-03-31 02:54:32 PM  

Somacandra: Isn't it technically an emulsion?

/drtfa


Yes, sez my four years of Chemistry.
 
2014-03-31 02:54:46 PM  

Anayalator: If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...

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2014-03-31 02:56:23 PM  
FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.
 
2014-03-31 02:56:56 PM  

Gig103: McDonalds ice cream cones are also liquids, according to the TSA. They were nonplussed when I argued that it would only become a liquid if the line was too long.

Also, fun fact, I was told that if my Tillamook cheese spread was not frozen, they would have confiscated it. So next time, freeze your mashed potatoes.


There is some logic to that.  If they're looking to prevent oil-based solvents from getting on the plane, it's tough to get oil-based stuff to actually freeze.  I assume they'd notice if you used a CO2 fire extinguisher in the line.

The only time I've ever been happy about the TSA was when somebody tried to bring on a giant mixing bowl full of soup, with only saran wrap to keep it from getting onto the other passengers.  Old people really don't seem to care about other people very much.
 
2014-03-31 03:01:47 PM  

Somacandra: Isn't it technically an emulsion?

/drtfa


An emulsion is a combination of two liquids with the aid of an emulsifying agent.

Mashed potatoes are simply a mixture and shouldn't be considered a liquid unless you've added too much milk.
 
2014-03-31 03:01:51 PM  

ChipNASA: Anayalator: If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...
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What the hell is this?
 
2014-03-31 03:02:08 PM  

Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.


That got me thinking... the human body is something like 72% water so shouldn't it be illegal to take your body through the security checkpoint unless packaged in 100 mL containers?
 
2014-03-31 03:03:06 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: he only time I've ever been happy about the TSA was when somebody tried to bring on a giant mixing bowl full of soup, with only saran wrap to keep it from getting onto the other passengers. Old people really don't seem to care about other people very much.


And that would probably have been blocked from the plane even if TSA had never existed.
 
2014-03-31 03:04:38 PM  
What is I take a fully cooked potato on board and mash it myself? Is this a felony?
 
2014-03-31 03:05:20 PM  

Stile4aly: Somacandra: Isn't it technically an emulsion?

/drtfa

An emulsion is a combination of two liquids with the aid of an emulsifying agent.

Mashed potatoes are simply a mixture and shouldn't be considered a liquid unless you've added too much milk.


Slurry? Suspension? Reminds me of another unrelated argument over powder vs. granular.
 
2014-03-31 03:09:03 PM  

Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.


Can a goldfish survive in some mystery exploding liquid?

I think the fact that there's a live goldfish in there is evidence it's safe.
 
2014-03-31 03:10:33 PM  

Phony_Soldier: What is I take a fully cooked potato on board and mash it myself? Is this a felony?


Please see earlier thread about a masher on an airplane.  http://www.fark.com/comments/8200952/Off-duty-pilot-convicted-of-tryi n g-to-get-into-14-year-old-girls-cockpit-during-flight
 
2014-03-31 03:12:09 PM  

Phony_Soldier: What is I take a fully cooked potato on board and mash it myself? Is this a felony?



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Little bit of a felony, yeah.
 
2014-03-31 03:13:24 PM  
The author sounds like a douche bag.
 
2014-03-31 03:15:06 PM  

iheartscotch: BizarreMan: Who takes mashed potatoes on a plane?

Counter-point:

Why wouldn't you take mashed potatoes onto a plane? What if you get hungry?


CSS: On a return trip from NYC, an older-ish couple boarded the plane. Woman was holding a greasy, sat-out-overnight bag of Nathan's hotdogs. Of course, she takes the seat in front of me.

The smell quickly became overwhelming.

She starts chowing down. Loudly. Right before our plane leaves the gate, she asks for an "air sickness bag." The guy sitting next to me gave me a look of "Oh Christ Jesus no."

I told him if he puked, be sure to aim at Hot Dog Woman.

/he was okay after he got his can of Coke
//this occurred post 9-11
 
2014-03-31 03:16:52 PM  
Silly people. What's considered a "liquid" was cleared up years ago.

The TSA Blog, 11/3/2009

A video was posted earlier today by a popular celebrity tabloid showing Britney Spears traveling through airport security at LAX with a large drink cup. We checked with the airport and I'm happy to report there's nothing to see here.

Her cup had a few ice chips in it, not liquid. Ice is a solid. Therefore, ice is permitted through the checkpoint, as long as it's screened by the X-ray (Which it was).

One thing to remember when bringing ice through the checkpoint: it can't be partially melted. It has to be just the ice with no liquid at the bottom.

*** Update: 11-4-09 ***

After reading the incoming comments this morning on our blog, it was very apparent that we had left some inaccurate information on the TSA.gov web page:

"Frozen gels/liquids are permitted if required to cool medical and infant/child exemptions. Frozen gels/liquids for any other purpose are not permitted."

This information has recently changed and should have been updated. An update has been posted in its place.

***Update 11/6/2009***
[...]
So, why are frozen solidified items permitted when they're eventually going to melt once the passenger is in the gate area or on their flight? Good question. It is highly improbable that the explosives TSA is concerned about could be frozen by traditional means. The key word here is frozen. Not thawing. Not a slush or slurry. Frozen solid.

I've read comments saying things similar to "Huh, but you wouldn't let me bring my [Insert Frozen Item Here] before... what's the deal?" As a result of many questions from our officers on the front lines, we previously clarified the treatment of solidified liquids through internal processes. So, while something may have been prohibited by an officer in the past, it may not be now.
 
2014-03-31 03:22:06 PM  
Typically I just bring the potato's, a microwave, salt, pepper, dehydrated butter, a bowl, and a masher through the checkpoint; make them myself from scratch right before the flight.  Really convenient now that most airports have those charging stations so finding an outlet for the microwave is so much easier
 
2014-03-31 03:24:46 PM  

MugzyBrown: Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.

Can a goldfish survive in some mystery exploding liquid?

I think the fact that there's a live goldfish in there is evidence it's safe.


Unless it's a mechanical goldfish.

/"I'm going to eat you, little fishie!"
 
2014-03-31 03:24:55 PM  
Being a former TSA agent is almost as honorable as being a former pedophile.
 
2014-03-31 03:28:01 PM  

JohnCarter: Typically I just bring the potato's, a microwave, salt, pepper, dehydrated butter, a bowl, and a masher through the checkpoint; make them myself from scratch right before the flight.  Really convenient now that most airports have those charging stations so finding an outlet for the microwave is so much easier


YOU BRING THE POTATO'S WHAT? EYES? SKIN? OVERNIGHT BAG?
 
2014-03-31 03:28:15 PM  
I am eating mashed potatoes right now.


That is all.
 
2014-03-31 03:29:54 PM  

ChipNASA: Anayalator: If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...
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www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-03-31 03:30:28 PM  

xanadian: This means something...


i.ytimg.com
 
2014-03-31 03:35:05 PM  

Somacandra: Isn't it technically an emulsion?

/drtfa


Not that I want to argue, but I think an emulsion is made of 2 liquids.  Mashed potatoes have a lot of liquid IN them, but it's all solid matter mixed in there.
I would say that mashed taters are no more a liquid than sand is.
 
2014-03-31 03:39:30 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: MugzyBrown: Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.

Can a goldfish survive in some mystery exploding liquid?

I think the fact that there's a live goldfish in there is evidence it's safe.

Unless it's a mechanical goldfish.

/"I'm going to eat you, little fishie!"


Be careful of your teeth, if you break one I might explode
 
2014-03-31 03:44:04 PM  
Mashed potatoes exist in a quantum superposition as both a liquid and a solid.  Only the act of eating the mashed potatoes can collapse the delicious wave function.

/Schrodinger's potato
 
2014-03-31 03:47:26 PM  

Dawnrazor: Mashed potatoes exist in a quantum superposition as both a liquid and a solid.  Only the act of eating the mashed potatoes can collapse the delicious wave function.

/Schrodinger's potato


You tuber.
 
2014-03-31 03:49:49 PM  

Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-31 03:53:42 PM  

Far Cough: Dawnrazor: Mashed potatoes exist in a quantum superposition as both a liquid and a solid.  Only the act of eating the mashed potatoes can collapse the delicious wave function.

/Schrodinger's potato

You tuber.


Eye see what you did there.
 
2014-03-31 03:55:53 PM  

ChipNASA: Anayalator: If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...
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WTF did I just see?
 
2014-03-31 03:59:23 PM  

Gig103: McDonalds ice cream cones are also liquids, according to the TSA. They were nonplussed when I argued that it would only become a liquid if the line was too long.

Also, fun fact, I was told that if my Tillamook cheese spread was not frozen, they would have confiscated it. So next time, freeze your mashed potatoes.


Cold, dead fingers, TSA. Do not mess with my Tillamook cheese.
 
2014-03-31 04:03:50 PM  

anuran: ChipNASA: Anayalator: If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...
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WTF did I just see?


The reason furries should not be surprised that they are lumped in with Juggalos on the social ladder?
 
2014-03-31 04:04:08 PM  

Gig103: McDonalds ice cream cones are also liquids, according to the TSA. They were nonplussed when I argued that it would only become a liquid if the line was too long.

Also, fun fact, I was told that if my Tillamook cheese spread was not frozen, they would have confiscated it. So next time, freeze your mashed potatoes.


Wait a second... frozen is ok? If I brought a bottle full of frozen water (aka ice) through the TSA checkpoint, would they let it through?
 
2014-03-31 04:10:50 PM  
You can take anything you want on a plane as long as you bought it inside the terminal, past security.  I set next to a woman on a Vegas flight who had a whole plate of baby-back ribs, sauce, coleslaw, and a corn on the cob that was on a pointy wooden stick.  No one cared until she started washing it down with swigs from a bottle of Cognac that she got from the Duty Free store.  The attendant confiscated her bottle and would not give it back when the plane landed.

/csb
 
2014-03-31 04:14:28 PM  

Danger Mouse: The author sounds like a douche bag.


Dude. He worked for TSA.
 
2014-03-31 04:16:17 PM  

ChipNASA: Anayalator: If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...
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2014-03-31 04:17:50 PM  
Bruce Schneier pointed that if you want to bring liquids on a plane, you just need to put them in bottles labeled 'saline solution'.
 
2014-03-31 04:25:28 PM  

anuran: ChipNASA: Anayalator: If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...
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WTF did I just see?


I'm not sure but I have some instant oatmeal in the microwave right now.
 
2014-03-31 04:33:23 PM  
I can fool the TSA a few weeks ago I had these fried mashed potatos. They were awesome, crispy on the outside gooey mashed potato goodness on the inside, with a dipping sauce that could be called a liquid.
 
2014-03-31 04:36:32 PM  

ChipNASA: Anayalator: If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...
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I... I think I hate you...
 
2014-03-31 05:13:44 PM  

groppet: I can fool the TSA a few weeks ago I had these fried mashed potatos. They were awesome, crispy on the outside gooey mashed potato goodness on the inside, with a dipping sauce that could be called a liquid.


I brought McDonald's Curry dipping sauce back from Singapore. They're under 3oz, so I put them in my quart bag through TSA.
 
2014-03-31 05:32:08 PM  

Jument: Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.

That got me thinking... the human body is something like 72% water so shouldn't it be illegal to take your body through the security checkpoint unless packaged in 100 mL containers?


www.startrek.com

Not only would it be safer, but think of all the fuel savings!
 
2014-03-31 05:33:12 PM  

MugzyBrown: Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.

Can a goldfish survive in some mystery exploding liquid?

I think the fact that there's a live goldfish in there is evidence it's safe.


And that, my friends, is the difference between MugzyBrown and the average TSA agent.
 
2014-03-31 05:34:36 PM  

ChipNASA: Anayalator: If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...
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what is this I don't even
 
2014-03-31 05:40:54 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: MugzyBrown: Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.

Can a goldfish survive in some mystery exploding liquid?

I think the fact that there's a live goldfish in there is evidence it's safe.

Unless it's a mechanical goldfish.


Do androids dream of electric sheep on long flights?
 
2014-03-31 05:41:35 PM  

ebenbane: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: MugzyBrown: Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.

Can a goldfish survive in some mystery exploding liquid?

I think the fact that there's a live goldfish in there is evidence it's safe.

Unless it's a mechanical goldfish.

/"I'm going to eat you, little fishie!"

Be careful of your teeth, if you break one I might explode


And gazpacho soup is RIGHT OUT.
 
2014-03-31 05:54:24 PM  

iheartscotch: BizarreMan: Who takes mashed potatoes on a plane?

Counter-point:

Why wouldn't you take mashed potatoes onto a plane? What if you get hungry?


You might as well face it.
 
2014-03-31 06:07:25 PM  

ChipNASA: Anayalator: If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party...
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Well.

....

That happened....
 
2014-03-31 07:05:50 PM  

Far Cough: The Jami Turman Fan Club: he only time I've ever been happy about the TSA was when somebody tried to bring on a giant mixing bowl full of soup, with only saran wrap to keep it from getting onto the other passengers. Old people really don't seem to care about other people very much.

And that would probably have been blocked from the plane even if TSA had never existed.


Cool Pre-TSA Story:  My dad once brought two 1-gallon milk jugs filled with white lightning as a carry-on from Raleigh NC to Sacramento CA in a brown paper shopping bag.  One of the containers was even leaking.  Nobody batted an eyelash.

/so 1988
 
2014-03-31 07:36:04 PM  

ebenbane: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: MugzyBrown: Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.

Can a goldfish survive in some mystery exploding liquid?

I think the fact that there's a live goldfish in there is evidence it's safe.

Unless it's a mechanical goldfish.

/"I'm going to eat you, little fishie!"

Be careful of your teeth, if you break one I might explode


Yup. If Al Qaida's cunning plan ever extends to watching Red Dwarf, the TSA will never know what hit them.

(As long as they can come up with a Jupiter Mining Corp. ship and time echoes.)
 
2014-03-31 07:39:19 PM  

ciberido: Jument: Skyd1v: FTFA:   "It's 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot."

Comedy gold right there.

That got me thinking... the human body is something like 72% water so shouldn't it be illegal to take your body through the security checkpoint unless packaged in 100 mL containers?

Not only would it be safer, but think of all the fuel savings!


They only allow those through the gate if it's a flight to the Andromeda Galaxy.
 
2014-03-31 11:17:36 PM  
Because of the matrix formed by the starches in potatoes, this is technically a colloidal suspension.

Of course, you can't understand a TSA agent to understand this.
 
2014-03-31 11:24:21 PM  
Came for http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/archive/t-720234.html

Have to post my self,    Duck the US for letting somebody take my hand carried cheese,

Main point.

I'm not a person that get upset in general but after a long flight and 3h stop over its a bit easyer to get annoyed, when the staff found my cheese
and I was told to remove it and dump it I did get angry, well now I'm not a expect in air safety and have never claimed to be, but I asked to see the rules that prevented me from carry cheese in my carry on bag.

If you been in Thailand before you might have guess that no rule in print was given to me, not in english or in Thai ( I don't read Thai ) and I was to accept the word of staff who told me this is a new rule, and just dump 150USD of gourmet cheese that I have been hand carrying the last 16h

I think that asking for the rules to be verified was not unreasonable request until they called armed guards to surround me I guess because they think that most none Thais get scared of this show of forces and just give in, I don't and still asked for the rule in text or any other information that might verify the claim making my cheese a danger to the coming flight also informing staff that I passed other safety checks and was in transit, had I been provided with the rule, well then its not a issue! I would then have given up my cheese no problem.
 
2014-03-31 11:52:20 PM  

cefm: And yet there never seemed to be any question as to whether or not they were in fact mashed potatoes.....


This is the 300-pound gorilla that everyone seems to be ignoring.
 
2014-04-01 12:13:06 AM  

Alien Robot: cefm: And yet there never seemed to be any question as to whether or not they were in fact mashed potatoes.....

This is the 300-pound gorilla that everyone seems to be ignoring.


Please explain. As far as I know there can be "no question" that a 64 ounce bottle contains ordinary hand soap, but it still ain't gettin' on the plane...
 
2014-04-01 05:27:04 AM  

Far Cough: Alien Robot: cefm: And yet there never seemed to be any question as to whether or not they were in fact mashed potatoes.....

This is the 300-pound gorilla that everyone seems to be ignoring.

Please explain. As far as I know there can be "no question" that a 64 ounce bottle contains ordinary hand soap, but it still ain't gettin' on the plane...


They won't let the hand soap on the plane because it might be a precursor chemical for making a binary bomb. In this case, even the TSA agent acknowledged that the substance was indeed mashed potatoes. Therefore, why not let it aboard? It's not a bomb precursor chemical, a fact which everyone recognized, and not a threat to the safety of the aircraft.
 
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