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2014-03-31 12:49:07 PM
6 votes:
I just went to healthcare.gov and now my screen says, "WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF AIDS!" in what appears to be lipstick.
2014-03-31 12:35:15 PM
5 votes:

Carn: It's awesome that you can work your whole life, paying insurance premiums and making them oodles of money, and then finally when you get really sick and need real care they kick you to the curb and piss on your head and then people cheer them for it.


Reminds me of this:

comicsidontunderstand.com
2014-03-31 01:05:49 PM
4 votes:

Launch Code: barry has been focused like a laser beam on his signature scheme for about 5 years. That's why obamacare is so great. Yes lies were told about keeping your plan, keeping your doctor, saving you money, costing under a trillion at only 900 billion. The most transparent administration can't tell anyone how many obamacare sign ups actually paid, how many signups are young/healthy types, how many signups got kicked off plans and had to get obamacare. This is because most Americans are too stupid to understand how great obamacare is. It has to be great because barry has been telling us how great it is for years. Dems only had to spend about 600 million tax dollars promoting it. That's less than 600 Super Bowl commercials. That alone should tell you how great obamacare is. It's darn near perfect if you ask me. It's so great that every single democrat in congress voted for obamacare. That includes all the Senators up for reelection in the fall of 2014. They wouldn't support this knowing their cushy political careers were in jeopardy if it wasn't great.
Get your lazy selves in gear and sign up for this free healthcare. It only costs about $250 - $1000 a month. Think of it as paying your fair share.
If you don't sign up, then you're a RACIST!



Game shows
2014-03-31 10:59:03 AM
4 votes:

Chris Ween: f I recall, Obama ran on the idea that 30 million people were not covered by health insurance.  How is an enrollment goal of 7 million by today going to solve it for the others


Agreed. While we're at it, We should get rid of all fire departments because fires still happen. The best way to solve a problem is by ignoring it.
2014-03-31 12:08:49 PM
3 votes:

Aldon: 6 million sign ups are pretty amazing considering 26 Republican governors actively worked to make the program fail.

Thanks Obama!


It is amazing that 6 million people threatened with a penalty actually followed the law! This is just like the amazing popularity that the IRS commands. Just look at how many people filed taxes! The government is on a roll.
2014-03-31 11:36:17 AM
3 votes:
2014-03-31 10:04:39 AM
3 votes:

mrshowrules: DamnYankees: So the site was down or a few minutes and its a headline?

Obama lied.  He will always betray you.  The Obamacare implosion continues.

/amidoingitirght


Obamacare raped my mother while pouring sugar into my gas tank.
2014-03-31 09:55:39 AM
3 votes:
So the site was down or a few minutes and its a headline?
2014-03-31 06:19:16 PM
2 votes:
1.  Never try and learn anything from anybody whose chief assumption is that, should they know something you don't, the primary importance of that is to be an arrogant c*nt about it.

2.  Never try and learn anything from anybody who is dripping with certitude about anything.  They have stopped paying attention and are working with a very narrow scope.

3.  Never try and learn anything from anybody whose ostensibly unimpeachable knowledge is derived from things other people have asserted.  They are working within a template.

4.  Be nice to your mom and helpless animals.  Stay hydrated.  Don't be a dick.  You now "win" at life.
2014-03-31 04:56:21 PM
2 votes:
I logged into the Obamacare website today and it showed me a ring and it said I was going to die in 7 days.

Thanks, Obama :(
2014-03-31 01:44:40 PM
2 votes:

sritzhaupt: [img.fark.net image 402x337]


fc03.deviantart.net
If you like our herp, you are going to love our derp.
2014-03-31 12:50:23 PM
2 votes:

Epic Fap Session: I just went to healthcare.gov and now my screen says, "WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF AIDS!" in what appears to be lipstick.


i371.photobucket.com
2014-03-31 12:46:36 PM
2 votes:
Yeah, 0bummercare is great.  It might help my family.  Circus performers, and other high-risk groups not so much.  In the Bizarro-world of left-wing blog posts, I suppose this counts as a success.  But wisdom is like pearls before swine for you social parasites.  I suppose you think what's good for urban populations is what is good for real Americans living in the boondocks.  The impact hits close to home when you realize that if you merely miss a date to sign up, you could now be a criminal.  Or, sign up with all those other millions of new patients, and end up only being able to get into see a doctor who prescribes pickles if you're pregnant. But appealing to the betterment of the downtrodden is red meat to limousine liberals, and so now every welfare queen with a Cadillac full of rugrats can now afford to go overboard on their healthcare without ending up in the penalty box.  Of course, when our nation is sinking like the Titanic under the fifth wave of debt, it will take all of you out of the gene pool.  Don't cry to me when the debt dunes bury this nation.
2014-03-31 12:43:18 PM
2 votes:

Level5: Well this is what Im seeing when I try to login. Cool stuff, thanks obama.

[img.fark.net image 800x346]


If Obama had released his transcripts, we might have found out that he failed his Web Development courses. No wonder he had to be a community organizer...

/derp
2014-03-31 12:37:32 PM
2 votes:
imagine a health insurance card, thwapping into a human face, forever
2014-03-31 12:28:17 PM
2 votes:

Witty_Retort: coffeeplease: Waiting patiently to see the $2,500 in cost savings Obama promised I would see.

Considering your comments, I doubt you are an Average American.

/i saved only $2,200 per year, so Obama is a big fat poopyhead liar.


^This. I went from no insurance to having free insurance so I saved jack shiat.

/Obama lied. Ben Ghazi died.
2014-03-31 11:47:54 AM
2 votes:
Waiting patiently to see the $2,500 in cost savings Obama promised I would see.
2014-03-31 11:36:11 AM
2 votes:

Rincewind53: Um, it works perfectly fine.


WRONG!  The healthcare.gov website HAS NEVER WORKED, and WILL NEVER WORK.  Anyone who thinks it works has been hypnotized by the Soros Mind-Control Ray.
2014-03-31 11:08:10 AM
2 votes:

Chris Ween: James!: Chris Ween: Government option

You know, they tried to include that.  Those folks you vote for decided it was a back door to single payer and blocked it.

Doesn't change that I wanted it, and it was the best option.

I didn't want Kentucky to be allowed to shoot that three yesterday with 2.3 seconds left either.  But I still support Michigan.


I don't follow hockey.
2014-03-31 10:47:17 AM
2 votes:
Signed up my mother-in-law a few weeks ago.  It was surprisingly cheap and painless.

I assume this makes me worse than Hitler.
2014-03-31 10:17:51 AM
2 votes:

R.A.Danny: Serious Black: R.A.Danny: And tomorrow there will be hundreds of thousands more criminals in the US. YAY!

Section 5000A(g)(2) of Subtitle D of the IRS Code of 1986 says that no taxpayer can be subjected to criminal prosecution or have a lien or levy filed against their property for failure to pay the individual shared responsibility payment.

Tell Obama that.


Obama is in charge of the Kaiser Family Foundation now? Shiat, next you'll tell me that he was the guy who oversalted my french fries last night!
2014-03-31 09:57:12 AM
2 votes:

DamnYankees: So the site was down or a few minutes


HISTORY'S GREATEST MONSTER!!!
2014-04-01 12:07:42 AM
1 votes:
I have one serious question with all this "liberal / conservative" jazz.  What, respectively, are you trying to be liberal with or conserve?  Cause we're broke as piss, y'all and ain't nobody pulling the levers but the cats with the money.
2014-03-31 06:34:53 PM
1 votes:

jigger: Dusk-You-n-Me: jigger: hahaowow.jpg

People who supported the passage and implementation of Medicare and Social Security heard the same thing.

And Obamacare is JUST like those programs.


Sure it is. Look, under SS, we have to buy terrycloth hats, and wrap around Blue Blocker sunglasses, and with Medicare, we have to pay for Anal lube and beads.

So, Obamacare is the exact same thing.

Sheesh, maybe you should stop watching Glen Beck on Faux News.
2014-03-31 06:07:47 PM
1 votes:

Witty_Retort: bunner: Witty_Retort: you have demonstrated that you know not how either the ACA or sovereign debt work.

Just fine until somebody changes the rules or comes to collect.

Nobody can 'call-in' our debt. It is sold in treasury notes. If you cash them in early, you lose most of the interest that they have accumulated.
Please, tell me moar of the infromative sources you have access to.


And those treasury notes are backed by...   Look, Demosthenes, I'd love to spend the rest of the day holding up your pedant pisspail for you, but I've already sat through this movie with the original cast.  A lot of what is widely held to be etched in stone is regularly discarded by history.  Happens every day.  We call this "progress", often a misnomer.  This probably eludes but I'm sort of fine with that.  Please return to your peacocking for your Horde of Internet Fans, just not on my expense account.   :  )  *click*
2014-03-31 05:07:00 PM
1 votes:

Thrag: Witty_Retort: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 551x844]
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 545x852]
Quick poll: Obamacare was signed into law four years ago yesterday. Are you better off now than you were then?

It's...
Beautiful


That screen shot should be used as election campaign fodder, thanking Ted Cruz for giving the people a chance to have their voices heard.
2014-03-31 04:54:55 PM
1 votes:

WiredMann: Summercat: WiredMann: jst3p: lolwut

Just call your doctor and ask them if they take ObamaCare.  Chances are they don't.

I can't tell if you are completely stupid, or utterly brilliant.

Brilliant of course, and of course you are utterly stupid.


Breaking character like that is going to cost him a few points from the judges. Let's see if he regains his composure.
2014-03-31 04:51:17 PM
1 votes:

Summercat: jst3p: Summercat: WiredMann: jst3p: lolwut

Just call your doctor and ask them if they take ObamaCare.  Chances are they don't.

I can't tell if you are completely stupid, or utterly brilliant.

I think it is the latter actually. But that one tipped his hand.

It's like... Oh gods, I know I'm an optimist because I'm betting it's the latter...

That was well done. Hook, line, sinker, and even with the hand being tipped PEOPLE ARE STILL BITING.


Oh he good, watch how he walks it back:

WiredMann: Dusk-You-n-Me: WiredMann: ust call your doctor and ask them if they take ObamaCare.

Obamacare isn't an insurance plan. That's important to remember. Or in your case, to ignore.

Duhh!!!!   I am talking about any plan that is bought through the health care exchanges.  There is a big problem with any of these "plans" as far as what doctors will take those plans.  Same things goes with hospitals.  But then again you probably chose to ignore that.  My doctor won't take any plan from Aetna, but will take Cigna.  He also won't take any plan associated with ObamaCare as well.  How good is the insurance if few doctors or hospitals will accept it?  Wake up and smell the failure/

2014-03-31 04:45:52 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: WiredMann: doctors and hospitals aren't taking the insurance in any large numbers,

lolwut?


You know, OBummerCare. That's what you're being forced to sign up for on that there website that doesn't work. You are being forced to buy 0BummerInsurance which you can never ever ever cancel and they steal the money right out of your account and you can't stop them and they don't pay for anything and no one takes it so you have to go to some dirty clinic on the corner.
2014-03-31 04:37:11 PM
1 votes:

WiredMann: Soup4Bonnie: WiredMann: I applaud you debate skills.

You should.  I am infinitely better than you at it.

Your post assumes that nobody has ever heard of let alone had to pay a high deductible before.  It fails to address that many people could not even get coverage before and are happy to pay the deductible just so they can get the treatment they weren't getting before.  It also doesn't mention the cap on out of pocket expenses, creates an imaginary scenario where the government is bailing people out and treats "Obamacare" as if it is thing that can be sold or used by hospitals and not a law that creates exchanges for private insurers to offer a product.

And this isn't an "epic fail".  Millions of people now have insurance that couldn't get it before.  There are a bunch of other new benefits, too, but again, I don't have time to explain to you what you should have been learning over the past four years.

You do know I was kidding, right? I think  you are as dumb as a brick.  From what I can tell you just seem to be here to promote ObamaCare despite the facts, but that's ok, it's problably your job.  The evidence is not quite in how big an epic fail ObamaCare is, but all of the signs are there you just have to open your eyes.   The facts are that this was all built on a lie.  We are already know that the "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" and "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan" were outright lies so anything else said by this administration is basically without credibility. The website is still a disaster, doctors and hospitals aren't taking the insurance in any large numbers, healthcare cost are going up and on and on.  But people who could never afford insurance before are going to gladly pay for a 5,000 deductible?  How?  Far too often they won't pay the deductible and the rest of us will be bearing the cost.  I could go on and on about how delusional you are but I am sure it wouldn't matter.


img.fark.net
2014-03-31 04:34:48 PM
1 votes:

WiredMann: doctors and hospitals aren't taking the insurance in any large numbers,


lolwut?
2014-03-31 04:34:25 PM
1 votes:

WiredMann: Soup4Bonnie: WiredMann: I applaud you debate skills.

You should.  I am infinitely better than you at it.

Your post assumes that nobody has ever heard of let alone had to pay a high deductible before.  It fails to address that many people could not even get coverage before and are happy to pay the deductible just so they can get the treatment they weren't getting before.  It also doesn't mention the cap on out of pocket expenses, creates an imaginary scenario where the government is bailing people out and treats "Obamacare" as if it is thing that can be sold or used by hospitals and not a law that creates exchanges for private insurers to offer a product.

And this isn't an "epic fail".  Millions of people now have insurance that couldn't get it before.  There are a bunch of other new benefits, too, but again, I don't have time to explain to you what you should have been learning over the past four years.

You do know I was kidding, right? I think  you are as dumb as a brick.  From what I can tell you just seem to be here to promote ObamaCare despite the facts, but that's ok, it's problably your job.  The evidence is not quite in how big an epic fail ObamaCare is, but all of the signs are there you just have to open your eyes.   The facts are that this was all built on a lie.  We are already know that the "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" and "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan" were outright lies so anything else said by this administration is basically without credibility. The website is still a disaster, doctors and hospitals aren't taking the insurance in any large numbers, healthcare cost are going up and on and on.  But people who could never afford insurance before are going to gladly pay for a 5,000 deductible?  How?  Far too often they won't pay the deductible and the rest of us will be bearing the cost.  I could go on and on about how delusional you are but I am sure it wouldn't matter.


Wake up, sheeple?
2014-03-31 04:05:00 PM
1 votes:

bunner: Is anybody else getting their browsers randomly hijacked here and then needing to click their back button to return to this thread?


You potatoed your browser with all of the derp you have been typing into it.
2014-03-31 04:03:14 PM
1 votes:
Is anybody else getting their browsers randomly hijacked here and then needing to click their back button to return to this thread?
2014-03-31 03:44:40 PM
1 votes:

Soup4Bonnie: WiredMann: Just wait a few months and we will start hearing horror stories about people who have bought this wonderful insurance and then when they have something besides preventative care, such as a broken arm, they will be horrified when the insurance won't pay for anything until those high deductibles have been reached.  All those people who could not pay for a monthly premium without a subsidy are going to expect the government to bail them out, right?  The hospitals are going to have to write off those losses when those bills aren't paid and so fewer and fewer hospitals will take Obamacare in the following years.  The epic fail continues...

What you don't know would take quite some time to explain.



That's quite a brilliant response.  I applaud you debate skills.
2014-03-31 03:40:50 PM
1 votes:
I'm in Maryland, so I just tried to browse available plans on Maryland Health Care Connection.  Unlike several weeks ago, the site works!   Entered information for my wife and me.  But the policy browsing page came up with two male icons at the top.  It asked about my health and the health of my male spouse.

Thinking I had failed to designate my spouse was female, I tried again.  Same result.

My GOP friends were right!  Now that Maryland allows same-sex marriage, we're being forced to be gay married!  Will mandatory abortions be next!?!?
2014-03-31 03:25:09 PM
1 votes:

sdd2000: How about "un-signing up" by not paying the premium?


... or just cancel the plan. Why in the shiatting fark would the ACA need to include a provision to allow you to cancel your plan? Just cancel it. Call up your insurer and say "I no longer have need of your services, thank you". The ACA also doesn't have a provision to take your dick out and point it at something you don't mind getting piss on before you drain the lizard. Apparently, that means this guy's been pissing his pants for the past 4 years.
2014-03-31 03:14:12 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: I bet he still has it.


Sure.  He's not an idiot.  I know an idiot when I see one.

Daraymann: Me needing insurance is my decision, not a bunch of follow the leader government officials.


Ca-caw!  Ca-caw!
2014-03-31 02:49:09 PM
1 votes:

dok9874: I'll hang on to my $17k+ and continue to pay for my healthcare like I always have: with cash.


Haha!  Thanks for the laugh.

dok9874: And then there's the issue that once you sign up for Obamacare, there is no mechanism to UN-sign up if say, you get a job that offers health insurance.  (they didn't quite think that one through).


Stop!  I'm going to choke!
2014-03-31 02:11:05 PM
1 votes:
Relax...they probably just need to load-balance traffic on the router.

4.bp.blogspot.com
2014-03-31 01:52:37 PM
1 votes:
img.fark.net
2014-03-31 01:51:32 PM
1 votes:

Deftoons: The slogan for Healthcare.gov is "Take your health care into your own hands." 

Yes, by putting the government in control of it.  What a huge relief!


The government controls all that private insurance companies?
2014-03-31 01:46:43 PM
1 votes:

Soup4Bonnie: MechaPyx: it's my understanding that because I live under the roof of a relative who does earn a wage and has health coverage through their employer I don't qualify for any kind of subsidy.

Who told you that?  Have you even tried to get insurance on the exchange?


I think he was told that either by the Koch Brothers or by an email that had 8 or 9 FW: in the subject line.
2014-03-31 01:38:34 PM
1 votes:

namegoeshere: MechaPyx: Sign up for healthcare or they're going fine me. Yeah sure. I don't have any money so go for it. Fine me. See if you can get blood from a stone. And because of my circumstances no I don't qualify for any kind of subsidy. My state is one of those that didn't extend Medicaid among other things.

Seriously, mandating that I have to buy stuff when I have no job or income is not helping. Excuse the fark out of me for being poor.

As has been pointed out several times so far, if you have no job or income, you are exempt from the penalty. Feel free to keep not having insurance.


I find it funny how all critics originally complained how many pages the law had.  Now they are secretly pissed off that all their bullshiat arguments are dealt with in all the complex provisions of the law.
2014-03-31 01:31:02 PM
1 votes:

Soup4Bonnie: williesleg: Wait 'till they find out health INSURANCE is NOT health CARE.

Are you suggesting people don't understand the difference?


I had a friend who was so proud to get insurance for his kids and only had to pay $14 a month for 3 kids up to $100,000 each!

He wanted to take them to the doctors...  I said you bought LIFE insurance  not health insurance..
2014-03-31 01:17:06 PM
1 votes:

whistleridge: I'm going to go with 'when you're working for $11/hr, paying an average of $1300 for rent with 3 roommates, have a car payment, a student loan payment/kids to feed/both, and zero savings, an extra couple hundred a month for health insurance is one hit to your wallet that you will avoid for as long as possible'. It's not that people are stupid, lazy, or disinterested in their health, it's that the real problems of today (my roommate didn't pay rent, I need $450 TODAY) outweigh the potential problems of tomorrow (I could get sick).


Also...it's complicated. TOO complicated.

Make it cheap, make it easy, and you incentivize people to buy in. Right now, it's pricey, it's complicated, and there's no real penalty for ducking...so they will. I'd bet $5 on it.


1.bp.blogspot.com

"Why don't you just ask your parent's for the money? Or sell some stock, that's what I did when I was 'broke' in college!"

2014-03-31 01:14:08 PM
1 votes:
img.fark.net
2014-03-31 01:03:16 PM
1 votes:
img.photobucket.com
2014-03-31 01:02:44 PM
1 votes:
barry has been focused like a laser beam on his signature scheme for about 5 years. That's why obamacare is so great. Yes lies were told about keeping your plan, keeping your doctor, saving you money, costing under a trillion at only 900 billion. The most transparent administration can't tell anyone how many obamacare sign ups actually paid, how many signups are young/healthy types, how many signups got kicked off plans and had to get obamacare. This is because most Americans are too stupid to understand how great obamacare is. It has to be great because barry has been telling us how great it is for years. Dems only had to spend about 600 million tax dollars promoting it. That's less than 600 Super Bowl commercials. That alone should tell you how great obamacare is. It's darn near perfect if you ask me. It's so great that every single democrat in congress voted for obamacare. That includes all the Senators up for reelection in the fall of 2014. They wouldn't support this knowing their cushy political careers were in jeopardy if it wasn't great.
Get your lazy selves in gear and sign up for this free healthcare. It only costs about $250 - $1000 a month. Think of it as paying your fair share.
If you don't sign up, then you're a RACIST!
2014-03-31 12:55:43 PM
1 votes:
We're 17,000,000,000,000.00 in debt and we're still cutting checks.  Mostly to the people who already have whatever actual wealth is left in their sock drawers.  This ain't gonna fix sh*t.
2014-03-31 12:55:02 PM
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: you're giving me a headache, would you please stop


arresting me?
2014-03-31 12:40:56 PM
1 votes:
a really big one though, like one of those giant novelty sized checks
2014-03-31 12:39:45 PM
1 votes:

qorkfiend: If only the law included exemptions and subsidies for people with little or no income!


You mean like the ones that don't qualify for medicaid but are still poor?  Yeah, I'll look into that if my meds don't run out.
2014-03-31 12:31:49 PM
1 votes:

Somacandra: You don't "sign up" for "Obamacare." The Federal and State exchanges merely facilitate the purchase of existing private insurance for those not already otherwise covered, or refer you to the existing Medicaid structure (if your state isn't run by asshats).


My State is ran by asshats.

They have an political party even.

Their mascot is an Ass.
2014-03-31 12:29:23 PM
1 votes:

bullsballs: I have coverage, but I am not going to enroll.
EVERYONE NOT EXEMPT MUST ENROLL...
but I refuse to do so...


Know how I know you don't actually understand what's going on?
2014-03-31 12:28:47 PM
1 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ManateeGag: mrshowrules: DamnYankees: So the site was down or a few minutes and its a headline?

Obama lied.  He will always betray you.  The Obamacare implosion continues.

/amidoingitirght

Obamacare raped my mother while pouring sugar into my gas tank.

Obamacare raped my gas tank while pouring sugar into my mother.


In the name of love though? Because that is acceptable.

t3.gstatic.com
2014-03-31 12:28:27 PM
1 votes:
So tomorrow is when the economy collapses and Obama finally reveals his plans to convert all of AMerica to Islam?  That's what Obamacare is going to do right?
2014-03-31 12:27:17 PM
1 votes:
img.fark.net
2014-03-31 12:26:54 PM
1 votes:

MithrandirBooga: I remember when I was back in college, and some poor souls tried to register for classes the day before registration closed. The computers always crashed. Always.

You know what the response was from the administrators?

"Ya'll are dumbshiats for trying to register at the last minute. You've had 4 months to register, and if you really cared about your schooling you would have done it by now."

It amazes me that large swaths of people would put off caring about their health until the very last second.


The administrators of that college are complete idiots and should be fired.  Everyone knows that people do shiat at the last minute and you plan for it.  Its called being human.
2014-03-31 12:25:30 PM
1 votes:

thornhill: vernonFL: So far, 10 million more people have health insurance- either privately or through medicaid expansion- than had it before.

And probably 75% of those people don't realize they have the ACA to thank for that.


In order for you to spout that 10 million gain number I guess you are looking at the list that contains 10 million names. Next to those names is the column that states the last time they had insurance, if ever, and whether they paid their premiums or not yet. If your not looking at this list are you regurgitating someone's talking points recently handed to you? I did not believe anything that came out of the Bush W.H. and will not believe anything that comes out of the Obama W.H.
2014-03-31 12:25:28 PM
1 votes:

James!: So after tomorrow when the world doesn't end do you think republicans will stop being such morons?


I think we already know that answer.

images.wikia.com
2014-03-31 12:18:35 PM
1 votes:

Rincewind53: Um, it works perfectly fine.


The website's not down.  Your browser is racist.
2014-03-31 12:15:25 PM
1 votes:

I alone am best: It is amazing that 6 million people threatened with a penalty actually followed the law! This is just like the amazing popularity that the IRS commands. Just look at how many people filed taxes! The government is on a roll.


Delude yourself into thinking all 6 million people were dragged into buying insurance by the power of legislation if you'd like, but many of those people (whether they made a cameo on Cruz's fb or not) are happily signing up and thankful that they are now allowed to buy insurance.  The young invincibles will eventually figure out that getting subsidized insurance is a hell of a lot better than not being covered and paying a fine.  The enrollments will swell over time and people will wonder why it took us so long to get some reform.
2014-03-31 12:06:42 PM
1 votes:
Does one have the right to complain that the website is down when one has actively tried to bring it down?

Seriously, this is why I don't trust anyone who claims to be a Republican. This is how far they're willing to go to prevent the opposition from having a single victory.

They're not scared of the ACA because they think it'll fail. They're scared because they think it'll succeed.
2014-03-31 12:03:36 PM
1 votes:

glassa: single payer = single denier. And if you want to sign over your entire body to the control of federal government (who can't find their ass from a hole in the ground), fine have fun with that. The rest of us don't want that nightmare, so don't inflict it on us.


I would much rather put it in the hands of for-profit insurance companies because they really care about me.
2014-03-31 11:57:16 AM
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whistleridge: Or, you know, just  don't sign up. I'm sure when 25,000,000 people all complain, they'll wind up just waiving it for the year. There's simply no way they try to enforce this in an election year. As bad as it is to cave, it would be far, far worse to fine a bunch of people.

/ can we have single-payer yet?


After the freaking mess that this whole thing has caused, you want to give the feds ENTIRE control over all of it?  You unimaginable fool!

single payer = single denier.  And if you want to sign over your entire body to the control of federal government (who can't find their ass from a hole in the ground), fine have fun with that.  The rest of us don't want that nightmare, so don't inflict it on us.

If you don't think the feds will use the healthcare system as a weapon against their political enemies, the way they use the IRS, you're an even bigger fool.  And remember, the Dems won't always be the ones in charge.  So you may be the one with the target on your back.  Don't put it past them.

I don't trust the government enough to give them complete control over everything like that.  But it's cute that you do.
2014-03-31 11:54:57 AM
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I alone am best: Witty_Retort: I alone am best: Witty_Retort: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 551x844]
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 545x852]
Quick poll: Obamacare was signed into law four years ago yesterday. Are you better off now than you were then?

A bunch of Liberals following a Republican senator on facebook. Seems like a legit commentary from 100% of the country, not a bunch of moonbats who have nothing better to do.

If you had bothered to click the provided link, you would see that those are the top rated comments for his page.
But if a conspiracy is much easier for your simple mind to comprehend then that people actually like the law, go let your freak flag fly.

Oh, I see. That changes things, or it doesnt. Yeah, I am going to just use the same argument I used last time for this post.

/I am guessing you follow Republicans on Facebook.


You seem extremely concerned about what other people are doing on Facebook.
2014-03-31 11:49:00 AM
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I alone am best: Witty_Retort: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 551x844]
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 545x852]
Quick poll: Obamacare was signed into law four years ago yesterday. Are you better off now than you were then?

A bunch of Liberals following a Republican senator on facebook. Seems like a legit commentary from 100% of the country, not a bunch of moonbats who have nothing better to do.


Moonbats with insurance
2014-03-31 11:42:41 AM
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MemeSlave: James!: So after tomorrow when the world doesn't end do you think republicans will stop being such morons?

Because it's "The Republicans" which are the problem.


Anyone who stands in the way of the greatest assemblage of political minds in the history of the world is a scourge upon this nation.
2014-03-31 11:32:16 AM
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James!: So after tomorrow when the world doesn't end do you think republicans will stop being such morons?


Because it's "The Republicans" which are the problem.
2014-03-31 11:24:11 AM
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James!: Somacandra: Chris Ween: I didn't want Kentucky to be allowed to shoot that three yesterday with 2.3 seconds left either.

Wow. Poking the Modmins in the eye today? Have a good one :-)

Yeah, Ween. You better watch your ass.


Heh.  I'm afraid all the Modmins know and dislike me already.
2014-03-31 11:06:54 AM
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Serious Black: Obama is in charge of the Kaiser Family Foundation now?


Of course. Hitler inherited the remnants of Kaiser Wilhelm's government, and as we all know ChairMAO Balrog Insane B-Rock "The Islamic Shock" Hussein SuperAllah Hussein FartBama Al-Chicago Hussein is History's Greatest MonsterTM so of course he would have already seized the assets of the Third Reich along the way towards establishing the 666 Reich. See, its these things about the Kaiser Family Foundation that no one tells you.
2014-03-31 11:05:52 AM
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Chris Ween: whistleridge: Or, you know, just  don't sign up. I'm sure when 25,000,000 people all complain, they'll wind up just waiving it for the year. There's simply no way they try to enforce this in an election year. As bad as it is to cave, it would be far, far worse to fine a bunch of people.

/ can we have single-payer yet?

If I recall, Obama ran on the idea that 30 million people were not covered by health insurance.  How is an enrollment goal of 7 million by today going to solve it for the others?  Isn't this kinda of a minor milestone since, years after passage, most of those 30 million are still going to be uncovered?

This is strange.  Maybe there weren't 30 million in need.  Or maybe people just can't be trusted to get their own coverage...even when spoon fed and forced to at tax penalty point.


So the problem is that is only reducing the uninsured?  Not clear on what your point is.

Keep in mind that this represents millions of people who couldn't get insurance before but wanted to.  Not sure on the precise number but for these people, Obamacare is actually a rainbow shiatting unicorn.

Secondly, this reduces the burden on hundreds of millions of responsible insurance holders because they won't have to cover as much in terms of emergency room visits from the uninsured.

Finally, every single American benefits from the consumer protections in Obamacare, not to mention the fringe economic benefits of having your health care security detached from your employer, not to mention the likely reduction in medical bankruptcies going forward.

To say there are still many uninsured is short sighted.  Also, moving the goal post because the actual GOP guarantee was actually that Obamacare was going to destroy the country and cause 1,000 years of darkness
2014-03-31 11:02:34 AM
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Somacandra: Chris Ween: f I recall, Obama ran on the idea that 30 million people were not covered by health insurance.  How is an enrollment goal of 7 million by today going to solve it for the others

Agreed. While we're at it, We should get rid of all fire departments because fires still happen. The best way to solve a problem is by ignoring it.


Government option or single payer.  The ACA is needlessly complicated and solves one problem while creating 10.

But, as I said, don't hurt yourself patting your back.  Most of those enrolled may have selected the marketplace options instead of their employer options.  So, this isn't even 7 million of the 30 million uninsured.  I think we will see that the ACA made some things more affordable, many things more complicated, and fixed very little in terms of obtaining coverage for the uninsured.
2014-03-31 10:57:09 AM
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dittybopper: If you just ignore section of your tax return on the insurance part, or lie and say you have insurance when you don't actually have it, they'll prosecute you for filing a frivolous return.


You mean to tell me that the Federal government might take a dim view of cheating on one's taxes? Fetch me my laudanum! I have with the vapours!
2014-03-31 10:52:01 AM
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And now we see the republican ignore the actual law and skip off into the land hypothetical doom.
2014-03-31 10:34:11 AM
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R.A.Danny: James!: R.A.Danny: This one better? It's from the "other" side.

Or is anyone here going to step and tell us that there will be no tax, fine, or other penalty?

From that link.

The only way for the IRS to collect the fee for not having health insurance, if you choose not to pay it, is for them to withhold the money you would get back from the IRS after filing your income tax returns. The IRS cannot enforce the Individual Shared Responsibility provision with jail time, liens, or any other of typical methods of collection.

That's my point. Why is there an enumerated penalty if there's no "legal" way to collect?


Likely because the drafters of that provision knew people who irrationally hate Obama and the Democrats were trying to declare everyone in the country criminals. What they forgot is that people like you would make that argument regardless of knowing whether it is true or false because it fits seamlessly into a pre-existing narrative about how Obama is a megalomaniacal dictator hellbent on remaking America in his image.
2014-03-31 10:34:00 AM
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R.A.Danny: James!: R.A.Danny: This one better? It's from the "other" side.

Or is anyone here going to step and tell us that there will be no tax, fine, or other penalty?

From that link.

The only way for the IRS to collect the fee for not having health insurance, if you choose not to pay it, is for them to withhold the money you would get back from the IRS after filing your income tax returns. The IRS cannot enforce the Individual Shared Responsibility provision with jail time, liens, or any other of typical methods of collection.

That's my point. Why is there an enumerated penalty if there's no "legal" way to collect?


There is a legal way to collect. It's for them to "to withhold the money you would get back from the IRS after filing your income tax returns."

As noted in the link YOU provided and I just quoted back to you.
2014-03-31 10:25:14 AM
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R.A.Danny: This one better? It's from the "other" side.

Or is anyone here going to step and tell us that there will be no tax, fine, or other penalty?


www.biopoliticaltimes.org

You explicitly said, and I quote: "And tomorrow there will be hundreds of thousands more criminals in the US. YAY!" Now you are saying they will be subjected to a tax, fine, or other penalty. There is a Grand Canyon-sized chasm between those two things. Stop moving the Goddamn goalposts and admit you were wrong.
2014-03-31 10:15:51 AM
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So after tomorrow when the world doesn't end do you think republicans will stop being such morons?
2014-03-31 10:15:24 AM
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Serious Black: R.A.Danny: And tomorrow there will be hundreds of thousands more criminals in the US. YAY!

Section 5000A(g)(2) of Subtitle D of the IRS Code of 1986 says that no taxpayer can be subjected to criminal prosecution or have a lien or levy filed against their property for failure to pay the individual shared responsibility payment.


Tell Obama that.
2014-03-31 10:10:01 AM
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Jackson Herring: obamacare isn't a service you can sign up for, I hope this helps


I'm pretty sure Obamacare is something you register for that allows treatment to be determined by Nancy Pelosi and delivered by Acorn health providers.
2014-03-31 10:07:12 AM
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obamacare isn't a service you can sign up for, I hope this helps
2014-03-31 10:00:51 AM
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And tomorrow there will be hundreds of thousands more criminals in the US. YAY!
2014-03-31 09:27:20 AM
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Or, you know, just  don't sign up. I'm sure when 25,000,000 people all complain, they'll wind up just waiving it for the year. There's simply no way they try to enforce this in an election year. As bad as it is to cave, it would be far, far worse to fine a bunch of people.

/ can we have single-payer yet?
 
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