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2014-03-31 01:47:31 PM  

JusticeandIndependence: bunner: Insurance companies don't provide health care.  They provide rooms full of people who get paid to make sure your claim doesn't.  This is because health care is about a 3,000 % markup across the board for everything.  Medicine is an industry and like most industries, it's primary goal is to move money towards that indsutry and keep it.  If you get better in the process, oh happy day.

I'll take a bunch of crap that isn't true for $100, Alex


Sounds spot on to me. Maybe the percentage is off, but it's all about profit to them and their people do everything they can to find any problems in claims to reject it, even the companies that handle medicaid do everything they can to reject paying out.
 
2014-03-31 01:48:24 PM  

mrshowrules: sritzhaupt: [img.fark.net image 402x337]

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If you like our herp, you are going to love our derp.


I have no problem with a fair and equitable tax base, properly used.  Call me when we have one.,
 
2014-03-31 01:49:01 PM  
The slogan for Healthcare.gov is "Take your health care into your own hands." 

Yes, by putting the government in control of it.  What a huge relief!
 
2014-03-31 01:49:20 PM  

bunner: Summercat: Simple people want simple solutions

I would assert that very bright and lucid people want simple solutions and there is a misguided notion that straightforward, elegant  and effective solutions are surely the work of the doppish and ignorant because a lot of people get for what's in the fine print.


If they're very bright and lucid, yet still want a simple solution to a complex problem, then I submit they are being very simple minded.
 
2014-03-31 01:49:36 PM  

Miss Alexandra: Serious Black: R.A.Danny: And tomorrow there will be hundreds of thousands more criminals in the US. YAY!

Section 5000A(g)(2) of Subtitle D of the IRS Code of 1986 says that no taxpayer can be subjected to criminal prosecution or have a lien or levy filed against their property for failure to pay the individual shared responsibility payment.

Ohio state constitution:
21 (A) No federal, state, or local law or rule shall compel, directly or indirectly, any person, employer, or health care provider to participate in a health care system. (emphasis mine)
(B) No federal, state, or local law or rule shall prohibit the purchase or sale of health care or health insurance.
(C) No federal, state, or local law or rule shall impose a penalty or fine for the sale or purchase of health care or health insurance.
(D) This section does not affect laws or rules in effect as of March 19, 2010; affect which services a health care provider or hospital is required to perform or provide; affect terms and conditions of government employment; or affect any laws calculated to deter fraud or punish wrongdoing int he health care industry.

Obamacare was signed into law four days later, on the 23rd.


Yeah, good luck with that.
Sounds like something a moron who thinks the sun travels around the Earth would say.
 
2014-03-31 01:49:40 PM  

bunner: JusticeandIndependence: bunner: Insurance companies don't provide health care.  They provide rooms full of people who get paid to make sure your claim doesn't.  This is because health care is about a 3,000 % markup across the board for everything.  Medicine is an industry and like most industries, it's primary goal is to move money towards that indsutry and keep it.  If you get better in the process, oh happy day.

I'll take a bunch of crap that isn't true for $100, Alex

Really, why's that, then?  Specifically.


I tore my Achilles's last year. Had surgery a week later. Total out of pocket:

$250 deductible
$35 initial copay for diagnosis
$300 in copays for physical therapy.

They paid the rest without issue.
 
2014-03-31 01:49:43 PM  

KellyX: JusticeandIndependence: bunner: Insurance companies don't provide health care.  They provide rooms full of people who get paid to make sure your claim doesn't.  This is because health care is about a 3,000 % markup across the board for everything.  Medicine is an industry and like most industries, it's primary goal is to move money towards that indsutry and keep it.  If you get better in the process, oh happy day.

I'll take a bunch of crap that isn't true for $100, Alex

Sounds spot on to me. Maybe the percentage is off, but it's all about profit to them and their people do everything they can to find any problems in claims to reject it, even the companies that handle medicaid do everything they can to reject paying out.


Precisely.  Can anybody explain to me why, in any sense of the alleged services and prctices offered, a hospitla needs a CEO?
 
2014-03-31 01:49:50 PM  

GWSuperfan: $3000/mo premiums (pre-ACA) were a little steep. $275/mo (now) I can handle though.


Wow. That's serious awesome right there.
 
2014-03-31 01:50:15 PM  
Man, I think that FOX "news" is going to have some kind of meltdown. News of the website overload and therefore complete failure of Obamacare and therefore his entire Presidency is  even pushing their regular coverage of the Bengazhi "scandal" off its regular 10 minute rotation.
 
2014-03-31 01:51:22 PM  

Deftoons: Yes, by putting the government in control of it.


Good luck getting rid of Medicare and Tricare. I'm sure those constituents will love your twirling towards freedom.
 
2014-03-31 01:51:23 PM  

KellyX: JusticeandIndependence: bunner: Insurance companies don't provide health care.  They provide rooms full of people who get paid to make sure your claim doesn't.  This is because health care is about a 3,000 % markup across the board for everything.  Medicine is an industry and like most industries, it's primary goal is to move money towards that indsutry and keep it.  If you get better in the process, oh happy day.

I'll take a bunch of crap that isn't true for $100, Alex

Sounds spot on to me. Maybe the percentage is off, but it's all about profit to them and their people do everything they can to find any problems in claims to reject it, even the companies that handle medicaid do everything they can to reject paying out.


Since the law states that they must use 80% of all premiums to pay out medical claims wouldn't it be counterproductive to pay people specifically to avoid paying out medical claims?
 
2014-03-31 01:51:32 PM  

Deftoons: The slogan for Healthcare.gov is "Take your health care into your own hands." 

Yes, by putting the government in control of it.  What a huge relief!


The government controls all that private insurance companies?
 
2014-03-31 01:52:18 PM  

sdd2000: Soup4Bonnie: MechaPyx: it's my understanding that because I live under the roof of a relative who does earn a wage and has health coverage through their employer I don't qualify for any kind of subsidy.

Who told you that?  Have you even tried to get insurance on the exchange?

I think he was told that either by the Koch Brothers or by an email that had 8 or 9 FW: in the subject line.


We laugh but it really is that bad. Insurance brokers, especially ones in states that didn't take Medicaid expansion or create state exchanges, are doing very well right now sitting down with FW:FW:FW: readers and Facebook hoax believers. They're taking them onto Healthcare.gov (Which that person could've done at home for free, now the broker gets a cut) and putting their info into the forms so they can see what plans they can buy.

Some of these customers have expressed shock at learning that not only is the site "Obamacare," ALL insurance is "Obamacare." So you have people who actually believe Obamacare is a separate, government program like Medicare or Medicaid. They have NO idea the ACA is a law designed to provide private health insurance plans to as many people as possible. That's how deep the derp goes. Some have slurped the derp so much, they don't even know what they're herping about.

/I heard it on NPR if you want a source.
 
2014-03-31 01:52:37 PM  
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2014-03-31 01:52:47 PM  

Summercat: bunner: Summercat: Simple people want simple solutions

I would assert that very bright and lucid people want simple solutions and there is a misguided notion that straightforward, elegant  and effective solutions are surely the work of the doppish and ignorant because a lot of people get for what's in the fine print.

If they're very bright and lucid, yet still want a simple solution to a complex problem, then I submit they are being very simple minded.


I submit that the problem isn't that complicated to begin with but it's a lot moe profitable to view it as one, because simplifying it means dismantling the appurtenant underbrush of gymnastic bullsh*t that doesn't serve anything but a failed status quo.
 
2014-03-31 01:53:03 PM  

Summercat: ..

Hey, rest of Fark?

How do you argue with something as stupid as a brick wall?


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-31 01:53:32 PM  
You don't suppose the procrastination generation has anything to do with clogging the pipe do you?

I'd read the article but it won't load because the tubes are clogged.
 
2014-03-31 01:53:54 PM  

Deftoons: The slogan for Healthcare.gov is "Take your health care into your own hands." 

Yes, by putting the government in control of it.  What a huge relief!


SIX single payer supporters, ah-ah-ah!!
 
2014-03-31 01:54:22 PM  

R.A.Danny: James!: R.A.Danny: This one better? It's from the "other" side.

Or is anyone here going to step and tell us that there will be no tax, fine, or other penalty?

From that link.

The only way for the IRS to collect the fee for not having health insurance, if you choose not to pay it, is for them to withhold the money you would get back from the IRS after filing your income tax returns. The IRS cannot enforce the Individual Shared Responsibility provision with jail time, liens, or any other of typical methods of collection.

That's my point. Why is there an enumerated penalty if there's no "legal" way to collect?


It's like the inefficient incandescent lightbulb ban. Republicans succeeded, in one of the recent budget bills, to remove funding for enforcing the import and manufacture bans.

So, it's still illegal to import or manufacture inefficient incandescent light bulbs, but since there is no funding to pay for the enforcement, you're only going to be able to prosecute a case if you have other charges pending.

The law is still there, but there are no teeth.
 
2014-03-31 01:55:22 PM  
And now that it loaded... those farkers are using a mobile layout? FFS!

So long NBC, welcome to 0.0.0.0
 
2014-03-31 01:56:34 PM  
TV News:  "Your deadline to enroll in Health Insurance for next year's taxes is tomorrow."
50% of Republican base: "You mean it wasn't declared unconstitutional?!"
Other 50%: "You mean it wasn't repealed?!"
***Around the country, 55 million Real Americans all try to access the website at once***
Healthcare.gov: Whoa, a million at a time, please!
 
2014-03-31 01:58:31 PM  

bunner: Summercat: bunner: Summercat: Simple people want simple solutions

I would assert that very bright and lucid people want simple solutions and there is a misguided notion that straightforward, elegant  and effective solutions are surely the work of the doppish and ignorant because a lot of people get for what's in the fine print.

If they're very bright and lucid, yet still want a simple solution to a complex problem, then I submit they are being very simple minded.

I submit that the problem isn't that complicated to begin with but it's a lot moe profitable to view it as one, because simplifying it means dismantling the appurtenant underbrush of gymnastic bullsh*t that doesn't serve anything but a failed status quo.


You can simplify the problem if you decide to just steamroll everything. Remove all tax credits and deductions, treat everything as the same, have a flat income tax - and you end up with a fairly useless system that does more harm than good.

We have these things for a reason; they make our society work and be workable. There's a reason there's different ways to run businesses and they're all treated differently under tax code, there's a reason we treat married couples differently from single, or parents from childless.

Unless you're challenging the entire concept of subsidies, credits, penalties, exemptions, etc that has arisen in response to need, demand, and the course of history as being "needlessly complex", and at that point I'd call you a fool. :\
 
2014-03-31 01:58:46 PM  

Witty_Retort: coffeeplease: Waiting patiently to see the $2,500 in cost savings Obama promised I would see.

Considering your comments, I doubt you are an Average American.

/i saved only $2,200 per year, so Obama is a big fat poopyhead liar.


Tell ya what, I'm saving $3600 a year. I'll send you $300 to get you up to that $2500 that he promised. Deal?
 
2014-03-31 01:59:09 PM  

Summercat: Mr. Right: Summercat: Complex shiat needs comex rules and we live in a complex society. You are kidding yourself if you think simple answers will be flexable enough to work.

Systems get more complex as they get more intrusive and controlling.  When it comes to taxes, a sales tax is pretty fair.  The more money you have to spend, the more money you get charged in taxes.


...

Hey, rest of Fark?

How do you argue with something as stupid as a brick wall?


i.imgur.com


Use a Sledge Hammer?
 
2014-03-31 01:59:19 PM  
Alright, what happens if you enroll......tomorrow? or next week?  What if you are a broke student now, but may have a paying gig in 4 months?
 
2014-03-31 02:00:12 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Alright, what happens if you enroll......tomorrow? or next week?  What if you are a broke student now, but may have a paying gig in 4 months?


You can't enroll until next November because there is a limited enrollment period.

https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/open-enrollment-period/
 
2014-03-31 02:00:27 PM  
Half hour until I'm off work. I need some more shills to turn up so I can make it to ten.
 
2014-03-31 02:01:34 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: MechaPyx: it's my understanding that because I live under the roof of a relative who does earn a wage and has health coverage through their employer I don't qualify for any kind of subsidy.

Who told you that?  Have you even tried to get insurance on the exchange?


Yes I tried. It was the healthcare.gov site that was telling me I didn't qualify for a subsidy because someone else in the household had coverage through their employer. I'm still unclear on household income vs my specific income affecting what I qualify for. I called to get some answers but they're understandably busy at the moment. They said they'd call back in 5-7 business days. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they do actually call back.
 
2014-03-31 02:04:01 PM  

whistleridge: pre-existing condition...



And we're done.
 
2014-03-31 02:04:16 PM  

jst3p: KellyX: JusticeandIndependence: bunner: Insurance companies don't provide health care.  They provide rooms full of people who get paid to make sure your claim doesn't.  This is because health care is about a 3,000 % markup across the board for everything.  Medicine is an industry and like most industries, it's primary goal is to move money towards that indsutry and keep it.  If you get better in the process, oh happy day.

I'll take a bunch of crap that isn't true for $100, Alex

Sounds spot on to me. Maybe the percentage is off, but it's all about profit to them and their people do everything they can to find any problems in claims to reject it, even the companies that handle medicaid do everything they can to reject paying out.

Since the law states that they must use 80% of all premiums to pay out medical claims wouldn't it be counterproductive to pay people specifically to avoid paying out medical claims?


I don't know the current ACA law inside and out, so if it says that, fine, I agree that's what it's supposed to do. But I'm assuming that's what it's supposed to do post March 31st and that for the last 40+ years they haven't done that at all and everything said by bunnerand myself are probably correct or very near to it.

I know first hand that I've had to fight tooth and nail for my Girlfriend and her child, who are on Medicaid, to get them to pay out for medicine the doctor prescribed them.

The doctor was trying to find meds that WORKED for my GF and it took 2 tries to find some that WORKED for her. But the insurance company refused to pay and demanded the doctor try another type prior to using the one that worked, because you know meds that affect the brain are great to swap around constantly, right?

The doctor sent every goddamn piece of paper and notes to show this is solving the issue, nope... Not going to pay... Why? Because fark you, that's why!
 
2014-03-31 02:04:16 PM  

Summercat: You can simplify the problem if you decide to just steamroll everything. Remove all tax credits and deductions, treat everything as the same, have a flat income tax - and you end up with a fairly useless system that does more harm than good.


Sounds like a very limited view of alternatives.  Then again, if you mean GE, Monstanto, Koch Inc. and military contractors, I'll oink up gas money for the steamroller.  What's so f*cking difficult about a society that values actual wealth creation, taxes all the money that moves around - even for the untouchable corporate whorehouses - and then untilizes the revenue to serve the needs of the governed?  What page in the rocket surgery manual isn't in my .pdf?
 
2014-03-31 02:04:40 PM  

kidgenius: Tell ya what, I'm saving $3600 a year. I'll send you $300 to get you up to that $2500 that he promised. Deal?


I only saved $1700, so, if you send him the $300, me $800, and keep $2500 for yourself, we'll all be even! This is a good plan. You should do it.
 
2014-03-31 02:05:26 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Alright, what happens if you enroll......tomorrow? or next week?  What if you are a broke student now, but may have a paying gig in 4 months?


If you are broke now, you use subsidies until you get money?
 
2014-03-31 02:06:51 PM  

Summercat: Unless you're challenging the entire concept of subsidies, credits, penalties, exemptions, etc that has arisen in response to need, demand, and the course of history as being "needlessly complex", and at that point I'd call you a fool. :\


Which is sort of a coincidence, because if you could assert with a straight face that a hopelessly gymnastic and unfair tax system is not only useful but necessary, at that point I'd call you a clinical imbecile, or worse, a congressman.   :  /
 
2014-03-31 02:07:37 PM  

bunner: What's so f*cking difficult about a society that values actual wealth creation, taxes all the money that moves around - even for the untouchable corporate whorehouses - and then untilizes the revenue to serve the needs of the governed?


Fundamental disagreement on what qualifies as "wealth creation" and "the needs of the governed"?
 
2014-03-31 02:07:40 PM  

MechaPyx: Soup4Bonnie: MechaPyx: it's my understanding that because I live under the roof of a relative who does earn a wage and has health coverage through their employer I don't qualify for any kind of subsidy.

Who told you that?  Have you even tried to get insurance on the exchange?

Yes I tried. It was the healthcare.gov site that was telling me I didn't qualify for a subsidy because someone else in the household had coverage through their employer. I'm still unclear on household income vs my specific income affecting what I qualify for. I called to get some answers but they're understandably busy at the moment. They said they'd call back in 5-7 business days. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they do actually call back.


They don't... When I first applied for everything in the beginning, I had a job... I lost it a month or so later, tried contacting them, since there is no method for updating your income at that time (don't know if there still is) they said they'd get back to me... Never did...
 
2014-03-31 02:07:49 PM  
Health Care Army!
 
2014-03-31 02:08:27 PM  

MechaPyx: Soup4Bonnie: MechaPyx: it's my understanding that because I live under the roof of a relative who does earn a wage and has health coverage through their employer I don't qualify for any kind of subsidy.

Who told you that?  Have you even tried to get insurance on the exchange?

Yes I tried. It was the healthcare.gov site that was telling me I didn't qualify for a subsidy because someone else in the household had coverage through their employer. I'm still unclear on household income vs my specific income affecting what I qualify for. I called to get some answers but they're understandably busy at the moment. They said they'd call back in 5-7 business days. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they do actually call back.


"Household" means insurable family unit. Whomever you live with would only affect your insurance if you qualified to be covered under their insurance, i.e. a parent, and you are still young enough for them to cover you under their policy. If that's the case, you should be on their policy. If you live with an uncle or a sibling or something, their insurance coverage does not affect your eligibility in the slightest, because they can not put you on their policy.
 
2014-03-31 02:08:42 PM  

MechaPyx: Yes I tried. It was the healthcare.gov site that was telling me I didn't qualify for a subsidy because someone else in the household had coverage through their employer. I'm still unclear on household income vs my specific income affecting what I qualify for.


This person in your household, are you married to them?  Are they your parents?
 
2014-03-31 02:09:35 PM  

qorkfiend: bunner: What's so f*cking difficult about a society that values actual wealth creation, taxes all the money that moves around - even for the untouchable corporate whorehouses - and then untilizes the revenue to serve the needs of the governed?

Fundamental disagreement on what qualifies as "wealth creation" and "the needs of the governed"?


I'm pretty sure that "juggling debt derivatives" and "upgrading stealth bombers while people sit at the kitchen table with 140,000.00 hospital bills" is neither.
 
2014-03-31 02:09:40 PM  

MBrady: Witty_Retort: MBrady: Somacandra: You don't "sign up" for "Obamacare." The Federal and State exchanges merely facilitate the purchase of existing private insurance for those not already otherwise covered, or refer you to the existing Medicaid structure (if your state isn't run by asshats).

then make sure you tell all the news media that, because that is precisely what they are calling it.  Signing up for 0bamacare.

The only people I've ever seen call it Zero-bamacare are idiots.

The only people that blindly followed someone usually drank Kool-Aid laced with cyanide.

The only people that whine about insignificant crap are usually 12 year old school girls.  Are you one of those?


It was Flavor-Aid. History, FTW!
Cry moar over being called out.
 
2014-03-31 02:10:16 PM  

namegoeshere: MechaPyx: Soup4Bonnie: MechaPyx: Sign up for healthcare or they're going fine me. Yeah sure. I don't have any money so go for it. Fine me. See if you can get blood from a stone. And because of my circumstances no I don't qualify for any kind of subsidy. My state is one of those that didn't extend Medicaid among other things.

Seriously, mandating that I have to buy stuff when I have no job or income is not helping. Excuse the fark out of me for being poor.

How dumb are you?  Because you sound pretty dumb to me.  If you don't have an income then you'll either be put on Medicaid or you will get a subsidy that will pay for your insurance.  Jesus Christ.  This law was passed years ago.  Take five minutes and learn about it, you rock.

Read the bolded part. Medicaid is not an option for me and it's my understanding that because I live under the roof of a relative who does earn a wage and has health coverage through their employer I don't qualify for any kind of subsidy.

So I'm stuck needing an extra couple grand a year I don't have and my only option is to ask relatives to lend it to me.

Why did you qualify that statement with, "It's my understanding that..."? If you were confident that this was the truth, you would have just stated it as fact. That you weakened your statement with a qualifier tells us that you're really not sure at all. You are complaining about your situation before you have gotten all the facts and know exactly what your situation is.

Stop it. Go do the research.


Admittedly I'm not familiar with all the intricacies of insurance so I'm in the process of finding out lots of little details that I've never really had to deal with before. I find the whole thing extremely irritating. This is me being irritable. And venting.
 
2014-03-31 02:10:40 PM  

MBrady: BeesNuts: MBrady: Somacandra: You don't "sign up" for "Obamacare." The Federal and State exchanges merely facilitate the purchase of existing private insurance for those not already otherwise covered, or refer you to the existing Medicaid structure (if your state isn't run by asshats).

then make sure you tell all the news media that, because that is precisely what they are calling it.  Signing up for 0bamacare.

I can't help it that you love being lied to.  Get over that hurdle yourself.

there is much derpness in this one.

no don't watch fox news asshole.  the local news this morning was talking about the 0bamacare mobile that was sitting in some parking lot over the weekend signing up people for 0bamacare, jackass.


Let me rephras.  I can't help it that you listen to how the news tells you the news and care that they're a little loose with terminology.  That we call it Obamacare at all is stupid.  We've been saying it's stupid for a while now, but you know what, we stopped caring.  And if everybody wants to run around biatching about how long the bill is and how reading is hard and how they don't understand the law and how this and that, I find it hard to continue caring.

I cared for a nice long while.  I tried to correct the misinformation.  Hell, I wrote into my local newspaper to complain about the mischaracterization of the process.  No response.  I believe you when you say you're not a fox viewer, I'm familiar enough with your history here to buy that.  What I find confusing is that you're perpetuating a lie you seem to agree... is a lie.  Simply put, you're not helping.  If you're not helping at this point, I'm writing you off as a paid shill who is trying to FUD the waters up.  Sorry.  You're not in good company here.

Soma tried, as I have tried before, to correct this misunderstanding of what the ACA does, and instead of going "preach it brother" you go "but that's what the teevee tells me!"  and I'm supposed to think you're on the up and up?  Sorry bud.  Deal with it.
 
2014-03-31 02:11:05 PM  
Relax...they probably just need to load-balance traffic on the router.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-31 02:11:57 PM  

bunner: qorkfiend: bunner: What's so f*cking difficult about a society that values actual wealth creation, taxes all the money that moves around - even for the untouchable corporate whorehouses - and then untilizes the revenue to serve the needs of the governed?

Fundamental disagreement on what qualifies as "wealth creation" and "the needs of the governed"?

I'm pretty sure that "juggling debt derivatives" and "upgrading stealth bombers while people sit at the kitchen table with 140,000.00 hospital bills" is neither.


All joking aside, there are a lot of people who think "upgrading stealth bombers" and other national security expenditures are much more of a "need for the governed" than affordable medical care.
 
2014-03-31 02:13:04 PM  

bunner: mrshowrules: sritzhaupt: [img.fark.net image 402x337]

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If you like our herp, you are going to love our derp.

I have no problem with a fair and equitable tax base, properly used.  Call me when we have one.,


Every Conservative supports a fair tax.  They just have a very ignorant perspective when it comes to defining what is fair.
 
2014-03-31 02:14:42 PM  

qorkfiend: All joking aside, there are a lot of people who think "upgrading stealth bombers" and other national security expenditures are much more of a "need for the governed" than affordable medical care.


And those people have kool aid on their chins and weeping eagle T-Shirts and like to pick fights in bars. caus "Murka!".  And are astoundingly bad at not only cost benefit analysis, but grasping the whole point of life on earth.
 
2014-03-31 02:15:11 PM  

bunner: Summercat: bunner: Summercat: Simple people want simple solutions

I would assert that very bright and lucid people want simple solutions and there is a misguided notion that straightforward, elegant  and effective solutions are surely the work of the doppish and ignorant because a lot of people get for what's in the fine print.

If they're very bright and lucid, yet still want a simple solution to a complex problem, then I submit they are being very simple minded.

I submit that the problem isn't that complicated to begin with but it's a lot moe profitable to view it as one, because simplifying it means dismantling the appurtenant underbrush of gymnastic bullsh*t that doesn't serve anything but a failed status quo.


Seeing as healthcare/pharmaceutical research is the only industry I'm willing to concede is complicated enough that it give my plans to abolish copyright law when I'm in charge pause...  I'm gonna say yeah, it's actually that complicated.

\The human body is crazy yo.
 
2014-03-31 02:18:33 PM  

BeesNuts: Seeing as healthcare/pharmaceutical research is the only industry I'm willing to concede is complicated enough that it give my plans to abolish copyright law when I'm in charge pause...  I'm gonna say yeah, it's actually that complicated.

\The human body is crazy yo.


Not as crazy complicated as the notion that if a tehnology is extant that improves the quality of life, it is the duty of humanity to immediately install a turnstile and start shopping for Bentleys.  The only reason that we are not up to our tits in polio is because Jonas Salk practiced medicine and not amateur stock brokery.
 
2014-03-31 02:18:35 PM  

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  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

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