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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Andrew Lincoln discusses Rick's turning point in the season four finale of The Walking Dead, as well as how the arrival at Terminus coincides with the comics (Warning: Spoilers for last night's episode)   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 84
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2014-03-31 10:44:40 AM
If you're a group of cannibals, you should go easy on the ominous cannibal statements.
 
2014-03-31 10:47:08 AM
I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.

And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.

Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.
 
2014-03-31 10:51:43 AM

born_yesterday: I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.

And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.

Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.


Possible spoiler: Did anyone beside Eugene speak with DC? I can't remember if someone else did. If not in the comics he was bsing the the group. Faking radio transmissons.
 
2014-03-31 10:52:40 AM

born_yesterday: I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.

And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.

Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.


You're assuming that mullet's radio is even working to begin with.
 
2014-03-31 10:52:50 AM

born_yesterday: I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.
And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.
Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.


Georgia's population density isn't that high, but they still can't go an hour in any direction without seeing walkers. I can't even imagine what the eastern seaboard looks like in this universe.

Assuming the mullet man if full of it, I think it would be better to head somewhere with less population density but plenty of arable soil and fish/wild game.
 
2014-03-31 10:53:19 AM
Okay, I read the article, now where does Andrew Lincoln discuss Rick's turning point?  Is it in the video clip at the bottom?
 
2014-03-31 10:57:50 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: born_yesterday: I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.

And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.

Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.

Possible spoiler: Did anyone beside Eugene speak with DC? I can't remember if someone else did. If not in the comics he was bsing the the group. Faking radio transmissons.


clkeagle: born_yesterday: I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.
And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.
Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.

Georgia's population density isn't that high, but they still can't go an hour in any direction without seeing walkers. I can't even imagine what the eastern seaboard looks like in this universe.

Assuming the mullet man if full of it, I think it would be better to head somewhere with less population density but plenty of arable soil and fish/wild game.


I haven't read a page of the comics, and Mullet's story seemed suspicious to me.  When the group met the scientist at the Atlanta CDC in season 1, he said Paris was the last to fall (IIRC), and no one else was broadcasting.  That was about a year ago in show time?  And Mullet's claims of "I know exactly what the problem is and can save the whole  world" seems a bit ...grandiose for a scientist, in light of the experience and opinion of last disease expert they met.

But, if he were to be eaten by the cannibals with everyone thinking he had been the last hope for humanity, I'd be cool with that, too.
 
2014-03-31 10:59:51 AM
So did Rick really lead all his people straight into a trap or does he have a backup plan that we didnt see? I mean besides a bag full of buried weapons which wont do much good if you cant get to them.
 
2014-03-31 11:04:20 AM

born_yesterday: I haven't read a page of the comics, and Mullet's story seemed suspicious to me.  When the group met the scientist at the Atlanta CDC in season 1, he said Paris was the last to fall (IIRC), and no one else was broadcasting.  That was about a year ago in show time?  And Mullet's claims of "I know exactly what the problem is and can save the whole  world" seems a bit ...grandiose for a scientist, in light of the experience and opinion of last disease expert they met.
But, if he were to be eaten by the cannibals with everyone thinking he had been the last hope for humanity, I'd be cool with that, too.


Haven't read it either... shouldn't matter, the show has taken a few different turns from what I keep seeing.

I'm thinking it's more likely that, when he turns to be BSing everyone, Abraham kills him on principle. Just because Abraham seems to be the only "fighter" right now that has a solid pre-apocalyptic moral compass*, so he's going to need some blood on his hands to keep up with Rick, Daryl, Carol, etc. 

/Glenn's is more or less intact, but he's more of a "lucky survivor" than a true fighter.
 
2014-03-31 11:09:50 AM
I assume they will either do a stereotypical prison escape (hey guard, look over there!), somebody on the inside will take pity on them and somehow they will get freed, Tyrese and Carol will trigger an escape, or some third party group / zombie swarm will cause chaos and let them free.

clkeagle: born_yesterday: I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.
And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.
Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.

Georgia's population density isn't that high, but they still can't go an hour in any direction without seeing walkers. I can't even imagine what the eastern seaboard looks like in this universe.

Assuming the mullet man if full of it, I think it would be better to head somewhere with less population density but plenty of arable soil and fish/wild game.


Yeah, considering the Richmond - NYC - Boston area is considered the largest "city" in the world. Tons of zombies for sure.

Of course that would pale in comparison to places like China or India or even Japan in terms of zombies per sq mile.
 
2014-03-31 11:12:52 AM

clkeagle: born_yesterday: I haven't read a page of the comics, and Mullet's story seemed suspicious to me.  When the group met the scientist at the Atlanta CDC in season 1, he said Paris was the last to fall (IIRC), and no one else was broadcasting.  That was about a year ago in show time?  And Mullet's claims of "I know exactly what the problem is and can save the whole  world" seems a bit ...grandiose for a scientist, in light of the experience and opinion of last disease expert they met.
But, if he were to be eaten by the cannibals with everyone thinking he had been the last hope for humanity, I'd be cool with that, too.

Haven't read it either... shouldn't matter, the show has taken a few different turns from what I keep seeing.

I'm thinking it's more likely that, when he turns to be BSing everyone, Abraham kills him on principle. Just because Abraham seems to be the only "fighter" right now that has a solid pre-apocalyptic moral compass*, so he's going to need some blood on his hands to keep up with Rick, Daryl, Carol, etc. 

/Glenn's is more or less intact, but he's more of a "lucky survivor" than a true fighter.


Glen is a tougher then he looks. He didn't crack in Woodsberry.
 
2014-03-31 11:17:05 AM
Obviously Rick will use his newly formed brass balls to break through the floorboards
 
2014-03-31 11:26:58 AM

Mad_Radhu: born_yesterday: I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.

And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.

Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.

You're assuming that mullet's radio is even working to begin with.


I'm sure his radio works about as well as Rick's phone.
 
2014-03-31 11:30:18 AM

born_yesterday: I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.

And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.

Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.


I'm getting a sense this is AMC-directed to bottleshow the series to save money. They'll never leave Georgia.

They're also synching a lot of the comic book (the stance of the three going to DC, Rick's "farking screwing with the wrong people" line) into the series and melding certain things to keep it bottled.
 
2014-03-31 11:31:02 AM

Evil Mackerel: Mad_Radhu: born_yesterday: I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.

And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.

Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.

You're assuming that mullet's radio is even working to begin with.

I'm sure his radio works about as well as Rick's phone.


they had some nice radio gear in terminus..  probably put mullet in front of them and say "contact DC!" and he will fiddle with the knobs and obviously have no idea what he is doing ...
 
2014-03-31 11:40:29 AM

clkeagle: born_yesterday: I'm starting to think it just might maybe time to get the fark out of Georgia.
And if everyone in the first group had listened to Abraham, they'd be well on their way to DC by now.
Of course, they already acknowledged that the people in DC had stopped responding to radio communication and are likely all dead, but still.

Georgia's population density isn't that high, but they still can't go an hour in any direction without seeing walkers. I can't even imagine what the eastern seaboard looks like in this universe.

Assuming the mullet man if full of it, I think it would be better to head somewhere with less population density but plenty of arable soil and fish/wild game.


The problem with small population locals is lack of supplies. A place that fell quick would leave a lot behind. If people were to hang on they would use up resources.
 
2014-03-31 11:53:00 AM
Rick will save them all by poisoning the cannibals' stew with the ricin..
 
2014-03-31 12:01:47 PM

Clash City Farker: So did Rick really lead all his people straight into a trap or does he have a backup plan that we didnt see? I mean besides a bag full of buried weapons which wont do much good if you cant get to them.


It was all alluded to when he grabbed the rabbit from the snare in the woods. Remember?

Same exact shiat happened to them at terminus.
 
2014-03-31 12:03:59 PM

Hiro-ACiD: Rick will save them all by poisoning the cannibals' stew with the ricin..


Morgan has been ghosting rick the whole time. He will quietly kill everyone at terminus and unlock the rail car then disappear again.
 
2014-03-31 12:04:47 PM

Evil Mackerel: Hiro-ACiD: Rick will save them all by poisoning the cannibals' stew with the ricin..

Morgan has been ghosting rick the whole time. He will quietly kill everyone at terminus and unlock the rail car then disappear again.


"Clear, biatches."
 
2014-03-31 12:08:52 PM
Carol goes back to the prison to get the Governor's tank then rolls up on Terminus like a pimp.
 
2014-03-31 12:12:23 PM
My biggest question so far in the series, is doesn't in rain in post-apocalyptic Georgia?  Cause it sure does rain alot now.

You would think that they could use the weather to provide some interesting challenges for the group.  When you are stuck on the road, 7 days of rain/thunderstorms can bring hell when you are also fighting zombies etc.
 
2014-03-31 12:17:31 PM
Mid_mo_mad_man: The problem with small population locals is lack of supplies. A place that fell quick would leave a lot behind. If people were to hang on they would use up resources.

It's the opposite in my opinion. High population has higher turnover so supply chain breakdowns hit them harder. Low pop means more buildup due to slower supply chain.
 
2014-03-31 12:18:06 PM

plcow: My biggest question so far in the series, is doesn't in rain in post-apocalyptic Georgia?  Cause it sure does rain alot now.

You would think that they could use the weather to provide some interesting challenges for the group.  When you are stuck on the road, 7 days of rain/thunderstorms can bring hell when you are also fighting zombies etc.


Something something climate change. Plus the zombie virus means lawns stay mowed indefinitely.
 
2014-03-31 12:25:41 PM

clkeagle: /Glenn's is more or less intact, but he's more of a "lucky survivor" than a true fighter.


Glenn's deal is that he's crafty and smart, so he has survival skills not necessarily based on strength or fighting.

At this point, I'm just trying to figure out which character is going to be eaten.  I mean, what's the point of having cannibals if they just eat some extras?
 
2014-03-31 12:27:28 PM

James Rieper: clkeagle: /Glenn's is more or less intact, but he's more of a "lucky survivor" than a true fighter.

Glenn's deal is that he's crafty and smart, so he has survival skills not necessarily based on strength or fighting.

At this point, I'm just trying to figure out which character is going to be eaten.  I mean, what's the point of having cannibals if they just eat some extras?


it will be Mullet, he is the plumpest and juiciest.
 
2014-03-31 12:29:52 PM
Was multet man in the boxcar? Abraham and dewy lesbian were, but I didn't see full of shiat boy.
 
2014-03-31 12:32:23 PM

Crewmannumber6: Was multet man in the boxcar? Abraham and dewy lesbian were, but I didn't see full of shiat boy.


I dunno, he walked in right?
 
2014-03-31 12:36:20 PM

James Rieper: clkeagle: /Glenn's is more or less intact, but he's more of a "lucky survivor" than a true fighter.
Glenn's deal is that he's crafty and smart, so he has survival skills not necessarily based on strength or fighting.


That's what I'm saying - through a combination of heart, smarts, and pure luck, he has survived in situations where Rick or Daryl may well have been killed. Like being lowered into that well against Walker the Hutt.
 
2014-03-31 12:36:47 PM

Mrbogey: Mid_mo_mad_man: The problem with small population locals is lack of supplies. A place that fell quick would leave a lot behind. If people were to hang on they would use up resources.

It's the opposite in my opinion. High population has higher turnover so supply chain breakdowns hit them harder. Low pop means more buildup due to slower supply chain.


How many stores are in one stoplight towns? More people equal more stuff.
 
2014-03-31 12:37:58 PM

OtherLittleGuy: I'm getting a sense this is AMC-directed to bottleshow the series to save money. They'll never leave Georgia.

They're also synching a lot of the comic book (the stance of the three going to DC, Rick's "farking screwing with the wrong people" line) into the series and melding certain things to keep it bottled.


This. The show will stay in Georgia. They seem to be hitting the same plot points, but at different locations.

To me it looked like they took the "Chris and his merry band of cannibals" storyline from he comics and split it: Joe and the "claimers" were similar in many ways to Chris' group especially in their predatory manner of seeing the world, while the Terminus people have the cannibal aspect.
 
2014-03-31 12:40:04 PM

Crewmannumber6: Was multet man in the boxcar? Abraham and dewy lesbian were, but I didn't see full of shiat boy.


He was to the left of Abraham.
 
2014-03-31 12:42:00 PM

Crewmannumber6: plcow: My biggest question so far in the series, is doesn't in rain in post-apocalyptic Georgia?  Cause it sure does rain alot now.

You would think that they could use the weather to provide some interesting challenges for the group.  When you are stuck on the road, 7 days of rain/thunderstorms can bring hell when you are also fighting zombies etc.

Something something climate change. Plus the zombie virus means lawns stay mowed indefinitely.


The lawn mowers deploy automatically when the zombies reach the house.
 
2014-03-31 12:50:25 PM

Mad_Radhu: Crewmannumber6: Was multet man in the boxcar? Abraham and dewy lesbian were, but I didn't see full of shiat boy.
He was to the left of Abraham.


Okay, between this and the other thread, I think 20 people have asked who was in the boxcar. Here's my public service for the day.

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-31 12:53:02 PM

plcow: My biggest question so far in the series, is doesn't in rain in post-apocalyptic Georgia?  Cause it sure does rain alot now.

You would think that they could use the weather to provide some interesting challenges for the group.  When you are stuck on the road, 7 days of rain/thunderstorms can bring hell when you are also fighting zombies etc.


I think you can hang this one on production costs. The show had it's budget cut after season 1 (that was one of the reasons for Frank Darabont's departure), and special effects must take up a big part of the budget (compared to a traditional drama), which means that corners need to be cut. If they were going to go "realistic and have long grass and weeds, they would have to tie up locations for weeks, or spend a lot of cash on additional effects). For major sets like the prison they did this, but for someplace that's only going to be used for 10 minutes (like the sub division where Rick kicked Carol to the curb), it's just not cost effective. I think this is also the reason that many of the sets are in places that look to have been abandoned before the apocalypse even happened, such as the fun down farm where Rick and The Governor met to have their little tetae-a-tete in season 3.
 
2014-03-31 12:55:06 PM

Clash City Farker: Crewmannumber6: Was multet man in the boxcar? Abraham and dewy lesbian were, but I didn't see full of shiat boy.

I dunno, he walked in right?


I thought I saw him in the boxcar.  One of the Terminus guys was wearing his body armor when Rick's nickels started dropping, so he's there someplace.

My money is on Glenn's traveling companion.  The writers don't know what to do with her.  So far her only function has been to twist her ankle.  That's happened three times now.

It's going to be tricky for them to handle this though.  It's one thing to show a character dying, even dying horribly, but showing them being prepared as food can bring the suspension of disbelief to a complete halt.

If you show too much, that's asking a lot from your viewers.  If you show too little, the threat isn't real.

Even In Hannibal, where you know you're going to see this, they usually go more for grim foreboding than clinical accuracy.  In fact I don't think they've ever shown him personally extracting organs or limbs -- they just sort of show up in his kitchen and he's shown processing an unidentifiable piece of meat. (There was one time where he makes osso buco out of a guy's leg, but showing him disarticulate and discard the foot is as much as they've pushed it.)
 
2014-03-31 12:56:42 PM

plcow: My biggest question so far in the series, is doesn't in rain in post-apocalyptic Georgia?  Cause it sure does rain alot now.

You would think that they could use the weather to provide some interesting challenges for the group.  When you are stuck on the road, 7 days of rain/thunderstorms can bring hell when you are also fighting zombies etc.


Better yet, all you need in Georgia is 1" of snow and terror ensues.
 
2014-03-31 12:56:53 PM

clkeagle: Mad_Radhu: Crewmannumber6: Was multet man in the boxcar? Abraham and dewy lesbian were, but I didn't see full of shiat boy.
He was to the left of Abraham.

Okay, between this and the other thread, I think 20 people have asked who was in the boxcar. Here's my public service for the day.

[img.fark.net image 850x478]


Plus Rick, who was taking the photo.
 
2014-03-31 12:59:41 PM

plcow: clkeagle: Mad_Radhu: Crewmannumber6: Was multet man in the boxcar? Abraham and dewy lesbian were, but I didn't see full of shiat boy.
He was to the left of Abraham.

Okay, between this and the other thread, I think 20 people have asked who was in the boxcar. Here's my public service for the day.

[img.fark.net image 850x478]

Plus Rick, who was taking the photo.


Heh, I meant to say who was already in the boxcar,

Anyone who isn't sure if Rick, Carl, Daryl, and/or MIchonne are inside needs to see their optometrist.
 
2014-03-31 01:05:03 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Mrbogey: Mid_mo_mad_man: The problem with small population locals is lack of supplies. A place that fell quick would leave a lot behind. If people were to hang on they would use up resources.

It's the opposite in my opinion. High population has higher turnover so supply chain breakdowns hit them harder. Low pop means more buildup due to slower supply chain.

How many stores are in one stoplight towns? More people equal more stuff.


how much is in the pantry of the average person in the boonies versus a manhattan highrise?

The only way it works better for the city resident is if everyone else dies near instantly. City supply chains are designed with high turnover and a much lower per capita on hand for each resident.
 
2014-03-31 01:10:27 PM

Mrbogey: Mid_mo_mad_man: Mrbogey: Mid_mo_mad_man: The problem with small population locals is lack of supplies. A place that fell quick would leave a lot behind. If people were to hang on they would use up resources.

It's the opposite in my opinion. High population has higher turnover so supply chain breakdowns hit them harder. Low pop means more buildup due to slower supply chain.

How many stores are in one stoplight towns? More people equal more stuff.

how much is in the pantry of the average person in the boonies versus a manhattan highrise?

The only way it works better for the city resident is if everyone else dies near instantly. City supply chains are designed with high turnover and a much lower per capita on hand for each resident.


I was actually was trying to say a quickly fallen city would be the best. That being said a town with a lot of subdivisions would be great. A lot of pantrys
 
2014-03-31 01:30:04 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Mrbogey: Mid_mo_mad_man: Mrbogey: Mid_mo_mad_man: The problem with small population locals is lack of supplies. A place that fell quick would leave a lot behind. If people were to hang on they would use up resources.

It's the opposite in my opinion. High population has higher turnover so supply chain breakdowns hit them harder. Low pop means more buildup due to slower supply chain.

How many stores are in one stoplight towns? More people equal more stuff.

how much is in the pantry of the average person in the boonies versus a manhattan highrise?

The only way it works better for the city resident is if everyone else dies near instantly. City supply chains are designed with high turnover and a much lower per capita on hand for each resident.

I was actually was trying to say a quickly fallen city would be the best. That being said a town with a lot of subdivisions would be great. A lot of pantrys


Dense population cities like NY would fall pretty quickly. When people have local shops they can walk to, they usually only shop for 3-4 days at a time. They'll be forced to forage earlier and likely be killed turned in the process. Plus sheer zombie density would be a constant hazard.
 
2014-03-31 01:35:40 PM
WALKING DEAD SPOILER ALERT FOR SEASON 5:

Carol and Tyreese will show up finally to Terminus and rescue Rick and company. Rick will be shocked that Carol saved him after kicking her out of the group. Rick will have to eat crow.
 
2014-03-31 01:43:01 PM
Anybody else think Rick was inordinately confident at the end, given their situation? Also, the Terminus dudes were shockingly lackadaisical about a weapons check -- basically trusting that Rick etc put everything down before they entered the boxcar. Just saying.
 
2014-03-31 01:43:09 PM
I think Carol should have saved Lizzie for the Terminus people.

"Hey, look at that cute little girl. Let's raise her as one of our own!"
 
2014-03-31 01:44:24 PM

KellyX: Carol and Tyreese will show up finally to Terminus and rescue Rick and company. Rick will be shocked that Carol saved him after kicking her out of the group. Rick will have to eat crow.


Carol will also deliver Judith to Rick.
 
2014-03-31 01:45:18 PM

Keith Dudemeister: Anybody else think Rick was inordinately confident at the end, given their situation? Also, the Terminus dudes were shockingly lackadaisical about a weapons check -- basically trusting that Rick etc put everything down before they entered the boxcar. Just saying.


Its meant to show that Rick's character has yet again undergone a transformation. He is now a total bad-ass warrior.
 
2014-03-31 01:47:44 PM

KellyX: WALKING DEAD SPOILER ALERT FOR SEASON 5:

Carol and Tyreese will show up finally to Terminus and rescue Rick and company. Rick will be shocked that Carol saved him after kicking her out of the group. Rick will have to eat crow.


Hopefully it's more filling than the owl.
 
2014-03-31 01:48:54 PM

plcow: My biggest question so far in the series, is doesn't in rain in post-apocalyptic Georgia?  Cause it sure does rain alot now.

You would think that they could use the weather to provide some interesting challenges for the group.  When you are stuck on the road, 7 days of rain/thunderstorms can bring hell when you are also fighting zombies etc.


It rained back in Atlanta, washing the zombie guts off Rick and Glenn.  It rained when the Governor was with Tara's group and he tried to patch the trailer roof.  Then when they tried to leave the camp they were cut off by zombie mud pit.

They've been mostly sedentary and indoor a lot before this half-season- the ATL camp, the farm, the prison- so it hasn't come up.  Probably also due to production costs; it's a lot harder to film in the rain or to fake rain.
 
2014-03-31 01:50:44 PM

Clash City Farker: Keith Dudemeister: Anybody else think Rick was inordinately confident at the end, given their situation? Also, the Terminus dudes were shockingly lackadaisical about a weapons check -- basically trusting that Rick etc put everything down before they entered the boxcar. Just saying.

Its meant to show that Rick's character has yet again undergone a transformation. He is now a total bad-ass warrior.


Yeah, I guess ripping open a man's carotid artery with your teeth would give you a certain level of confidence.
 
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