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(The Daily Beast)   For people who can barely control their fear of flying as it is, the Malaysian airliner disappearance has reinforced their conviction that planes are nothing more than thin metal tubes of certain death   (thedailybeast.com ) divider line
    More: Interesting, Malaysia, Air Accidents Investigation Branch, Flight MH370, accident investigation, Bermuda Triangle  
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2014-03-31 09:26:31 AM  
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Sybarite: vernonFL: Well of course that is ridiculous. Flying is the safest form of travel and everyone knows this.

/Irrational fear is irrational.


This claim, regularly made by airlines, is based on a calculation of fatalities vs. distance traveled. It's a really effective way to dilute the number of air travel deaths because planes by their very nature make much longer journeys than cars, trains, etc. A more accurate comparison would be deaths vs. number of journeys made. Airline deaths per 100 million passenger journeys is right around 55. That number is 4.5 for cars and 2.7 for trains.


I would actually argue for deaths per million passenger hours.   Which would be more dangerous:  Sitting in a car for 5 hours, or sitting in a jet for 5 hours?
2014-03-31 08:59:37 AM  
3 votes:
death is certain
2014-03-31 09:38:17 AM  
2 votes:
The fear is fully justified. On what occasion did news media report of a plane flight that arrived safely at its destination with no injuries or deaths to anyone onboard?
2014-03-31 12:03:52 PM  
1 vote:
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No, thank you
2014-03-31 10:22:38 AM  
1 vote:
The Malaysian airliner disappearance has reinforced my conviction that airline crashes are to car crashes as mass shootings are to individual shootings.

People go batshiat crazy over airline crashes and mass shootings, while 10 times the body count piles up from car crashes or individual shootings before the story grows cold and nobody cares about them.
2014-03-31 10:14:03 AM  
1 vote:
Of course its irrational. Doesn't make it any better though. I think a lot of it is the feeling of helplessness. You're at 20,000 feet and if something happens, there's literally nothing there to catch you. You can grab onto your armrest, but what good is that?

Watching way too much Air Crash Investigation on Youtube doesn't help either. Crap like the tail just suddenly coming off a 747 because of damage done almost 20 years ago that wasn't documented correctly, A bunch of maintenance guys decide to cut corners replacing an engine, crack a support mount that causes an engine to come off months later and sending the plane augering into the ground right after takeoff. Or a shorted wire that causes a cockpit fire that kills everyone on board. Its just the way little things can to lead to disaster that makes it so damn frightening.
2014-03-31 09:41:00 AM  
1 vote:

dittybopper: Sybarite: vernonFL: Well of course that is ridiculous. Flying is the safest form of travel and everyone knows this.

/Irrational fear is irrational.


This claim, regularly made by airlines, is based on a calculation of fatalities vs. distance traveled. It's a really effective way to dilute the number of air travel deaths because planes by their very nature make much longer journeys than cars, trains, etc. A more accurate comparison would be deaths vs. number of journeys made. Airline deaths per 100 million passenger journeys is right around 55. That number is 4.5 for cars and 2.7 for trains.

I would actually argue for deaths per million passenger hours.   Which would be more dangerous:  Sitting in a car for 5 hours, or sitting in a jet for 5 hours?


Last time I sat in a jet for 5 hours we hadn't even taken off by that point. Pretty farking safe I'd imagine.

....I despise air travel and will avoid at all costs now. I've been on 18 hour flights from JFK to Tel Aviv, 13 hours from ATL to Honolulu. I've done my time in the purgatory of air travel.
2014-03-31 09:17:08 AM  
1 vote:

vernonFL: Well of course that is ridiculous. Flying is the safest form of travel and everyone knows this.

/Irrational fear is irrational.



This claim, regularly made by airlines, is based on a calculation of fatalities vs. distance traveled. It's a really effective way to dilute the number of air travel deaths because planes by their very nature make much longer journeys than cars, trains, etc. A more accurate comparison would be deaths vs. number of journeys made. Airline deaths per 100 million passenger journeys is right around 55. That number is 4.5 for cars and 2.7 for trains.
2014-03-31 08:58:35 AM  
1 vote:
Well of course that is ridiculous. Flying is the safest form of travel and everyone knows this.

/Irrational fear is irrational.
 
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