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2014-03-31 09:00:12 AM  
thanks, whalebama
 
2014-03-31 09:05:45 AM  
So how will we ever find out why whales die when they're harpooned and dragged into a processing ship to be cut into small pieces?  The scientific world demands answers.
 
2014-03-31 09:25:27 AM  
Whale is pretty good, but it's not that popular here.  It'd probably die out on it's own if there weren't so many people constantly trying to turn it into a nationalist dick-waving contest.  Sea Shepherd's antics will probably keep demand up for another 50 years, though.
 
2014-03-31 09:30:08 AM  
So what's to stop Japan from just saying they're now whaling for commercial porpoises? Norway and Iceland seem to do that without any consequence.
 
2014-03-31 09:38:43 AM  

ThunderPelvis: Whale is pretty good, but it's not that popular here.  It'd probably die out on it's own if there weren't so many people constantly trying to turn it into a nationalist dick-waving contest.  Sea Shepherd's antics will probably keep demand up for another 50 years, though.


Have heard this said as well.  It's main done as a "fark you" measure and they pretty much have to give away the whale / massively subsidize it.
 
2014-03-31 09:41:53 AM  
Moderately rare potential whale trifecta in play.
 
2014-03-31 09:42:11 AM  

scottydoesntknow: So what's to stop Japan from just saying they're now whaling for commercial porpoises? Norway and Iceland seem to do that without any consequence.


Pulling this firmly out of my ass, I guess that Iceland and Norway whale for different whales and keep their numbers down at sustainable levels according to demand, while Japan basically loathes the whale products and only does it because they hate everyone else more.

I believe they have also been told to stop doing it repeatedly and have found stupid loopholes each time (like scientific study).
 
2014-03-31 09:46:51 AM  
southparkfarkyouwhales.jpg
 
2014-03-31 09:49:07 AM  

scottydoesntknow: So what's to stop Japan from just saying they're now whaling for commercial porpoises? Norway and Iceland seem to do that without any consequence.


I sea what you did there
 
2014-03-31 09:50:12 AM  
This won't stop these shiat birds.
 
2014-03-31 09:52:19 AM  
Nuke the whales.
 
2014-03-31 09:52:31 AM  
Wow, kroomer.

The Sea Shepherds are farking idiots and assholes.  Japan's whaling "research" is actually sustainable.  Yeah, it's not really research, but who the hell cares?

Nuke the whales!
 
2014-03-31 09:52:59 AM  

kroonermanblack: scottydoesntknow: So what's to stop Japan from just saying they're now whaling for commercial porpoises? Norway and Iceland seem to do that without any consequence.

Pulling this firmly out of my ass, I guess that Iceland and Norway whale for different whales and keep their numbers down at sustainable levels according to demand, while Japan basically loathes the whale products and only does it because they hate everyone else more.

I believe they have also been told to stop doing it repeatedly and have found stupid loopholes each time (like scientific study).


It's the same type of whale. The major legal difference is that Japan agreed to stop whaling except for scientific purposes and Norway didn't.

This decision decision means Japan is not allowed to continue killing whales for as long as it is part of the agreement not to kill whales, but it's only part of that agreement as long as it wants to be.
 
2014-03-31 09:53:38 AM  
Japan had argued it has complied with the moratorium despite its 2,000-year tradition of whale hunting, leaving coastal communities in "anguish" because they can no longer practise their ancestral traditions.

Somehow I don't think the 2,000 year old tradition for those coastal communities involved hunting off the coast of Antarctica.

Sad that there is no 'anguish' over the apparent total lack of whales in what I assume is their traditional hunting grounds closer to home.
 
2014-03-31 09:54:51 AM  

SpdrJay: Nuke the whales.


heh, QFT
 
2014-03-31 09:58:38 AM  

kroonermanblack: I guess that Iceland and Norway whale for different whales and keep their numbers down at sustainable levels according to demand, while Japan basically loathes the whale products and only does it because they hate everyone else more.


It's basically a legacy jobs program for Japan; they have to make it nationalistic because it's not like anyone gives a damn.  As for Iceland and Norway, they couldn't care less about the whales' "sustainable levels".  We don't really use whales for anything anymore.  Methinks the idea here is that humans like to harvest fish at levels where we have to throw a lot of them away, but whales eat a lot of fish (or the krill that fish eat), so it's basically a resource war.  We slaughter them for our right to waste food.

We're already at a point where pretty much every other apex predator is somewhere between extinct and endangered and the vast majority of the mammal population is either humans or livestock.  In that sense the Earth is almost completely tapped out.
 
2014-03-31 09:59:07 AM  

gfid: SpdrJay: Nuke the whales.

heh, QFT


img4.wikia.nocookie.net

Let me sing you the song of my people...
 
2014-03-31 09:59:14 AM  

SpdrJay: Nuke the whales.


just the gay ones
... for jesus
 
2014-03-31 10:00:40 AM  
Bleeped out but still possibly NSFW:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwNvIM2W9Aw
 
2014-03-31 10:08:26 AM  
Update: international court now holds cows sacred. You've had your last burger fatty.
 
2014-03-31 10:09:09 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: ThunderPelvis: Whale is pretty good, but it's not that popular here.  It'd probably die out on it's own if there weren't so many people constantly trying to turn it into a nationalist dick-waving contest.  Sea Shepherd's antics will probably keep demand up for another 50 years, though.

Have heard this said as well.  It's main done as a "fark you" measure and they pretty much have to give away the whale / massively subsidize it.


They're killing these whales as a passive-aggressive challenge to the rest of the world?

Wow.
 
2014-03-31 10:13:02 AM  
I just don't understand how they can rationally justify this.  Well we spend all this money to go and kill these whales to sell as food, but no one wants the whale meat because it tastes like crap, so we'll subsidize the price at the government's expense and then end up throwing most of it away anyhow...

Look at it from a fiscal standpoint... You're wasting all this money killing and selling these whales and no one wants them...

so just stop it already...
 
2014-03-31 10:13:23 AM  

dragonchild: We're already at a point where pretty much every other apex predator is somewhere between extinct and endangered and the vast majority of the mammal population is either humans or livestock.


There weren't that many apex predators to begin with.
Humans make more efficient use of the land than than nature does.

/We're just really bad at sustainability.
 
2014-03-31 10:14:10 AM  

Gentoolive: Update: international court now holds cows sacred. You've had your last burger fatty.


Except there's plenty of cows in the world and they are farmed. There's only a limited number of whales, which are pretty damn endangered
 
2014-03-31 10:15:05 AM  

SpdrJay: Nuke the whales.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-31 10:15:15 AM  

Cheese eating surrender monkey: southparkfarkyouwhales.jpg


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2014-03-31 10:16:02 AM  

pkrzycki: I just don't understand how they can rationally justify this.  Well we spend all this money to go and kill these whales to sell as food, but no one wants the whale meat because it tastes like crap, so we'll subsidize the price at the government's expense and then end up throwing most of it away anyhow...

Look at it from a fiscal standpoint... You're wasting all this money killing and selling these whales and no one wants them...

so just stop it already...


Is the whale meat really not wanted?  I'm not up on this shiat.  It seems to me that someone wants the whale.  Otherwise it's just Japan and that freaky Sea Shepherd dude having a dick-waving contest.
 
2014-03-31 10:19:06 AM  

gfid: Otherwise it's just Japan and that freaky Sea Shepherd dude having a dick-waving contest.


Japan doesn't give a shiat about the Sea Shepherd dude. He's like the One Million Moms of whaling. I'm shocked he hasn't already claimed this ruling came about because of his organization.
 
2014-03-31 10:19:12 AM  

Jackson Herring: thanks, whalebama


Aww c'mon, we know he's a slimy blow-hole.  But that's a little harsh.......maybe.
 
2014-03-31 10:21:24 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Moderately rare potential whale trifecta in play.


I haven't been that far down in the threads today.  Were there two other stories featuring Hillary Clinton and Rosie O'Donnel?
 
2014-03-31 10:26:42 AM  

gfid: Japan's whaling "research" is actually sustainable.


No, it isn't, not even remotely.

This shouldn't surprise you, since they've managed to kill every fish within 200 miles of their main chain's coastlines in the course of "sustainable" fishing.
 
2014-03-31 10:27:28 AM  

SpdrJay: Nuke the whales.


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2014-03-31 10:28:13 AM  
Back in the day, there was a restaurant called Haussner's in Baltimore which was known for two things... It's art collection, and a gigantic menu that could have been made for the sole purpose of making PETA member's head asplode. It was great... Whale steak? Terrapin soup? Spotted Owl in aspic?

I had whale steak there once. Wouldn't do it twice. From what I understand, the Japanese whaling industry is facing the problem that no one wants to eat that nasty, greasy crap, but they keep harpooning them out of some sort of perverse "fark you" pride thing.
 
2014-03-31 10:30:18 AM  

Jim_Callahan: gfid: Japan's whaling "research" is actually sustainable.

No, it isn't, not even remotely.

This shouldn't surprise you, since they've managed to kill every fish within 200 miles of their main chain's coastlines in the course of "sustainable" fishing.


Okay, so why don't you cite some nice graph of how many whales there are and of what type so you can demonstrate how this is unsustainable..

I think the whale population has actually increased over the last couple of decades.  Maybe I'm wrong, but here's your chance to prove it.
 
2014-03-31 10:31:59 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: So how will we ever find out why whales die when they're harpooned and dragged into a processing ship to be cut into small pieces?  The scientific world demands answers.


Simple, harpoon one of the whalers and see how that goes
 
2014-03-31 10:34:40 AM  
But it impedes their ancestral traditions to stop them from whaling.

/My ancestral traditions (one generation, anyway) include machine gunning the Japs. You can continue yours if I can continue mine.
 
2014-03-31 10:35:51 AM  
Damn tree hugging hippies! Tying up the free market with job killing regulations this is. The whales are our enemy! We need to kill more of 'em before they rise up and wage war on us surface dwellers! You know they're planning it!
 
2014-03-31 10:36:31 AM  

gfid: Jim_Callahan: gfid: Japan's whaling "research" is actually sustainable.

No, it isn't, not even remotely.

This shouldn't surprise you, since they've managed to kill every fish within 200 miles of their main chain's coastlines in the course of "sustainable" fishing.

Okay, so why don't you cite some nice graph of how many whales there are and of what type so you can demonstrate how this is unsustainable..

I think the whale population has actually increased over the last couple of decades.  Maybe I'm wrong, but here's your chance to prove it.


"I assert that Japan's whaling research is sustainable.  Prove otherwise."

ARGUMENTS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!
 
2014-03-31 10:37:33 AM  

scottydoesntknow: So what's to stop Japan from just saying they're now whaling for commercial porpoises? Norway and Iceland seem to do that without any consequence.


The Pelly Amendment. It actually requires the United States to impose sanctions against whaling nations, barring the President offering a waiver. We're even considering sanctions against NATO nations for continuing to whale. We won't impose those sanctions against Iceland, but it is one more tool we can use to make them continue to support NATO or reform their banking laws, etc., etc. Leaving the IWC carries a legal cost. Nevermind the international opprobrium which could remove the international support for Japan's possession of the Senkaku Islands and containment of China.

Is all of that worth a money-losing industry that costs money even before factoring in the bribes needed to maintain support in the IWC? Doubtful. They'll rejigger their scientific whaling program to actually do some science and comply with the ICJ ruling.
 
2014-03-31 10:37:43 AM  

maxheck: Back in the day, there was a restaurant called Haussner's in Baltimore which was known for two things... It's art collection, and a gigantic menu that could have been made for the sole purpose of making PETA member's head asplode. It was great... Whale steak? Terrapin soup? Spotted Owl in aspic?


Was "the day" the 1950s?
 
2014-03-31 10:39:39 AM  

gfid: Is the whale meat really not wanted? I'm not up on this shiat. It seems to me that someone wants the whale. Otherwise it's just Japan and that freaky Sea Shepherd dude having a dick-waving contest.


The whale meat sits in storage until it spoils and is thrown out. Only a very small percentage is eaten by humans. Some makes its way into dog food since the subsidized cost is next to nothing. It's all about pride and tradition. Which I'm fine with... as soon as they give up Playstations, modern medicine, and Pokemon. If they want to play Imperial Japan make-believe, they need to go all the way. Oh, and use wooden ships without engines.
 
2014-03-31 10:50:24 AM  

EngineerAU: gfid: Is the whale meat really not wanted? I'm not up on this shiat. It seems to me that someone wants the whale. Otherwise it's just Japan and that freaky Sea Shepherd dude having a dick-waving contest.

The whale meat sits in storage until it spoils and is thrown out. Only a very small percentage is eaten by humans. Some makes its way into dog food since the subsidized cost is next to nothing. It's all about pride and tradition. Which I'm fine with... as soon as they give up Playstations, modern medicine, and Pokemon. If they want to play Imperial Japan make-believe, they need to go all the way. Oh, and use wooden ships without engines.


Meh - citation needed.  Japanese people can be stubborn and hard-headed but I don't see them financing these whaling research missions unless there's some financial gain.


And yeah, sendtodave - feel free to answer.  Arguments don't work that way, my ass.  Feel free to prove the obvious wrong.
 
2014-03-31 10:51:10 AM  
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maxheck: Back in the day, there was a restaurant called Haussner's in Baltimore which was known for two things... It's art collection, and a gigantic menu that could have been made for the sole purpose of making PETA member's head asplode. It was great... Whale steak? Terrapin soup? Spotted Owl in aspic?

Was "the day" the 1950s?


Well, '70's. My family used to go there every year for my sister's birthday. I are old. :)

The point being, and I've heard this from several people on Fark and elsewhere who also have had whale... It sucks. There's no reason to harvest it. There have been a few times they tried to make it a dish in school lunches and that didn't work.

Why are they doing it other than dick-waggling?
 
2014-03-31 10:55:46 AM  

maxheck: This text is now purple:

maxheck: Back in the day, there was a restaurant called Haussner's in Baltimore which was known for two things... It's art collection, and a gigantic menu that could have been made for the sole purpose of making PETA member's head asplode. It was great... Whale steak? Terrapin soup? Spotted Owl in aspic?

Was "the day" the 1950s?

Well, '70's. My family used to go there every year for my sister's birthday. I are old. :)

The point being, and I've heard this from several people on Fark and elsewhere who also have had whale... It sucks. There's no reason to harvest it. There have been a few times they tried to make it a dish in school lunches and that didn't work.

Why are they doing it other than dick-waggling?


Heh. I know someone that actually likes whale. And yes, she grew up with it in school lunches.
 
2014-03-31 11:01:26 AM  

maxheck: Why are they doing it other than dick-waggling?


Why indeed?

I don't think anyone buys the scientific research aspect.

Do you really think it's just so they can say f-u to the world and keep on harvesting whales?

I don't.  It's gotta be expensive to send those ships out halfway across the world to bring whales back.  They do it because it's profitable.
 
2014-03-31 11:06:50 AM  
The whaling moratorium comes from a treaty that is entirely voluntary anyway. Even if a court does rule Japan's logic of scientific whaling to be BS, Japan could always just withdraw from the treaty altogether. There are no legal bars to that.
 
2014-03-31 11:09:42 AM  

gfid: Why indeed?

I don't think anyone buys the scientific research aspect.

Do you really think it's just so they can say f-u to the world and keep on harvesting whales?

I don't. It's gotta be expensive to send those ships out halfway across the world to bring whales back. They do it because it's profitable.


Are you saying that you discount the possibility that a government would waste tax payer's dollars just to promote nationalism and say fark you to other nations that have told them not to?
 
2014-03-31 11:12:29 AM  

sendtodave: gfid: Jim_Callahan: gfid: Japan's whaling "research" is actually sustainable.

No, it isn't, not even remotely.

This shouldn't surprise you, since they've managed to kill every fish within 200 miles of their main chain's coastlines in the course of "sustainable" fishing.

Okay, so why don't you cite some nice graph of how many whales there are and of what type so you can demonstrate how this is unsustainable..

I think the whale population has actually increased over the last couple of decades.  Maybe I'm wrong, but here's your chance to prove it.

"I assert that Japan's whaling research is sustainable.  Prove otherwise."

ARGUMENTS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!


Well, the whaling program has been ongoing for some time. If the population of the whale species in question is stable, then it's sustainable -- it's being sustained.
 
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2014-03-31 11:13:19 AM  

gfid: maxheck: Why are they doing it other than dick-waggling?

Why indeed?

I don't think anyone buys the scientific research aspect.

Do you really think it's just so they can say f-u to the world and keep on harvesting whales?

I don't.  It's gotta be expensive to send those ships out halfway across the world to bring whales back.  They do it because it's profitable.


I expect it's like corn ethanol in the US. It's enormously profitable for whoever gets the government subsidy to do it, but a huge waste of taxpayer money otherwise.
 
2014-03-31 11:14:18 AM  
According to a Japanese newspaper I read the popularity of whale meat is not that high. The paper itself said that if it wasn't for school lunches being forced to use whale meat the practice would die out.

As a poster said about Baltimore, there was a Chicago eatery in the 60's as I was growing up that specialized in exotic meals. The whale steak I had there was barely edible. A once in a lifetime thing. The bear was very greasy. I refused to try the lion. Obviously, one of my father's favorite places as we went there monthly.
 
2014-03-31 11:14:28 AM  

ThunderPelvis: Whale is pretty good, but it's not that popular here.  It'd probably die out on it's own if there weren't so many people constantly trying to turn it into a nationalist dick-waving contest.  Sea Shepherd's antics will probably keep demand up for another 50 years, though.


Yep, I'd buy that. That Sea Shepherd dude is probably having the exact opposite effect that he intends to have.
 
2014-03-31 11:16:20 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Are you saying that you discount the possibility that a government would waste tax payer's dollars just to promote nationalism and say fark you to other nations that have told them not to?


Well, it is Japan and I have no other explanation for tentacle porn so maybe that's it.

How many sushi rolls can you make from one whale?  About a zillion?  Yeah, and I don't care if it's whale or salmon, I'll eat it.
 
2014-03-31 11:18:33 AM  

EngineerAU: gfid: Is the whale meat really not wanted? I'm not up on this shiat. It seems to me that someone wants the whale. Otherwise it's just Japan and that freaky Sea Shepherd dude having a dick-waving contest.

The whale meat sits in storage until it spoils and is thrown out. Only a very small percentage is eaten by humans. Some makes its way into dog food since the subsidized cost is next to nothing. It's all about pride and tradition. Which I'm fine with... as soon as they give up Playstations, modern medicine, and Pokemon. If they want to play Imperial Japan make-believe, they need to go all the way. Oh, and use wooden ships without engines.


They also have the pride and tradition of conquering their neighbors.
 
2014-03-31 11:19:00 AM  
Makes me think of the bit with the Kraken in Good Omens:
"The Kappamaki, a whaling research ship, was currently researching the question: How many whales can you catch in one week? "

/In my original American edition there's a (possibly intentional) typo that changes "catch" to "watch"
//Very confusing at first
 
2014-03-31 11:20:29 AM  
The real science is studying what happens when you feed people meat loaded with mercury. They even have a name for it, Minamata disease.
 
2014-03-31 11:21:09 AM  

gfid: Well, it is Japan and I have no other explanation for tentacle porn so maybe that's it.

How many sushi rolls can you make from one whale? About a zillion? Yeah, and I don't care if it's whale or salmon, I'll eat it.


From previous articles, most people in Japan don't even like whale.  It usually is sold for dirt cheap on the market or given/force sold to schools.
 
2014-03-31 11:22:02 AM  

gfid: Satanic_Hamster: Are you saying that you discount the possibility that a government would waste tax payer's dollars just to promote nationalism and say fark you to other nations that have told them not to?

Well, it is Japan and I have no other explanation for tentacle porn so maybe that's it.

How many sushi rolls can you make from one whale?  About a zillion?  Yeah, and I don't care if it's whale or salmon, I'll eat it.


Whales aren't fish - you probably can't make it into decent sushi.

/ I understand it's very tough meat - might make good bbq, since cuts like beef brisket also start out pretty tough
 
2014-03-31 11:23:26 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: The real science is studying what happens when you feed people meat loaded with mercury. They even have a name for it, Minamata disease.


...or radio-iodine.

/ eg, Fukushima or the Castle Bravo test
 
2014-03-31 11:24:37 AM  
I think it's pretty well known that whale tastes like ass, and there's no reason to harvest it.

I have zero problems with some guy living on the ragged edge of sustainability somewhere in Nuntuk whacking a whale in order to feed his village.

The guy in Tokyo who can flip out his smart phone to order KFC day or night... No, he probably doesn't need a source of whale.
 
2014-03-31 11:30:47 AM  

jshine: That Sea Shepherd dude is probably having the exact opposite effect that he intends to have.


Yeah, this.

I love animals, but the guy is such an asshole that when I watch that show I root for the Japanese whalers.

Some groups take things way too far.  I wear a leather jacket (like Fonzi) and I eat meat, but PETA and teh Sea Shepherds can suck my dick - and they probably would if given the chance.
 
2014-03-31 12:00:26 PM  

jshine: gfid: Satanic_Hamster: Are you saying that you discount the possibility that a government would waste tax payer's dollars just to promote nationalism and say fark you to other nations that have told them not to?

Well, it is Japan and I have no other explanation for tentacle porn so maybe that's it.

How many sushi rolls can you make from one whale?  About a zillion?  Yeah, and I don't care if it's whale or salmon, I'll eat it.

Whales aren't fish - you probably can't make it into decent sushi.

/ I understand it's very tough meat - might make good bbq, since cuts like beef brisket also start out pretty tough


They sell "whale bacon" in bars.

It's thin cut, crunchy, and kinda tastes like bacon, but it is raw. You don't cook good seafood here.
 
2014-03-31 12:08:01 PM  

gfid: PETA and teh Sea Shepherds can suck my dick - and they probably would if given the chance.


I'm not sure you thought that joke through.  "How can I get across what misguided morons these groups are?  I know!  I'll say they'd probably be willing to suck my dick!"
 
2014-03-31 12:14:50 PM  
what's with all these sucking dicks analogies in a whale thread? are farkers a bunch of repressed homos?

actually don't answer that plz!
 
2014-03-31 12:27:01 PM  
Dose this mean those Whale Wars idiot will have to find real jobs?
 
2014-03-31 12:33:43 PM  
I am going to be pissed if this delays the next season of Whale Wars!..
 
2014-03-31 12:34:32 PM  

jshine: Whales aren't fish - you probably can't make it into decent sushi.


You can make sushi from molluscs, echinoderms, tofu, birds, etc. The only real requirement is sushi rice.
 
2014-03-31 12:38:39 PM  

jshine: ThunderPelvis: Whale is pretty good, but it's not that popular here.  It'd probably die out on it's own if there weren't so many people constantly trying to turn it into a nationalist dick-waving contest.  Sea Shepherd's antics will probably keep demand up for another 50 years, though.

Yep, I'd buy that. That Sea Shepherd dude is probably having the exact opposite effect that he intends to have.


But what if his intended effect is being an attention-whore with a tv show?
 
2014-03-31 12:39:40 PM  
Whale meat is yummy.  We used to eat it all the time, but then those lying Greenpeace farkers came around, and now it is hard to find.

Gawd I hate those guys.
 
2014-03-31 12:46:07 PM  

whosits_112: Cheese eating surrender monkey: southparkfarkyouwhales.jpg

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Whale meat again.
 
2014-03-31 12:52:03 PM  

scottydoesntknow: gfid: Otherwise it's just Japan and that freaky Sea Shepherd dude having a dick-waving contest.

Japan doesn't give a shiat about the Sea Shepherd dude. He's like the One Million Moms of whaling. I'm shocked he hasn't already claimed this ruling came about because of his organization.


Last I heard about him, he is at sea full time on an undisclosed vessel in an undisclosed location that can't ever make port.
 
2014-03-31 01:05:15 PM  

jshine: gfid: Satanic_Hamster: Are you saying that you discount the possibility that a government would waste tax payer's dollars just to promote nationalism and say fark you to other nations that have told them not to?

Well, it is Japan and I have no other explanation for tentacle porn so maybe that's it.

How many sushi rolls can you make from one whale?  About a zillion?  Yeah, and I don't care if it's whale or salmon, I'll eat it.

Whales aren't fish - you probably can't make it into decent sushi.

/ I understand it's very tough meat - might make good bbq, since cuts like beef brisket also start out pretty tough


So I should cook my whale in a crock pot?

I am way too lazy to prepare proper BBQ.
 
2014-03-31 01:11:15 PM  
/CSB Time!
  I used to work in Antarctica on board the icebreakers that are leased out to the US Antarctic Program. We were in the Ross Sea one trip (circa 2006/7?) and I was randomly wandering around the ship during my "working" hours, which I think was midnight to noon that particular trip. Well, I happened to be up on the bridge (around 2 or 3 AM) when the mate on watch looks on the radar and says, "there's something out there." We start looking out the windows and sure enough, there's a ship a goodly bit out there, but it's completely blacked out and not transmitting anything on AIS (illegal on a vessel that size) nor responding to hails on any radio freqs. The mate decides it's best to steer a bit clear of this unknown vessel and we're probably about 3-5 miles away when suddenly all the lights come up and this ship starts making headway directly towards us. Mind you, our ship is a BRIGHT creme and orange colored US flagged research vessel that does not have any outward appearance of a whaling ship. They close to within a half mile and finally slow down and talk to us on the radio. Turns out these morons are no other than the specials at sea shepard and thought we were a whaling ship, so they were coming to attack us. When we finally got it clear to them that we were not whalers, they came at us head on and passed on the right side (a big no no for seagoing vessels) then had the audacity to ask us if we had seen any of the whaling vessels and then asked for our sat phone numbers so they could call us and have us report on any Japanese whaling vessel activity. We refused to give them any info. A short while later (same trip for me) is when they had the incident where they rammed one of the Japanese ships.

End CSB.
 
2014-03-31 01:13:42 PM  

jshine: Whales aren't fish - you probably can't make it into decent sushi.

/ I understand it's very tough meat - might make good bbq, since cuts like beef brisket also start out pretty tough


It makes decent sushi.  The flavor is fine.  What stops you (if you're not a "save the whales" type) are the price, and the fact that it's basically raw mammalian meat.  It's very red.

The meat isn't tough.  It tastes like raw beef marinated in desalinated seawater.  Which makes a lot of sense, really.
 
2014-03-31 01:23:45 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I'm shocked he hasn't already claimed this ruling came about because of his organization.


Phone reception's not great out on the boat. Give it 5 minutes.
 
2014-03-31 01:28:52 PM  

SpaceButler: gfid: PETA and teh Sea Shepherds can suck my dick - and they probably would if given the chance.

I'm not sure you thought that joke through.  "How can I get across what misguided morons these groups are?  I know!  I'll say they'd probably be willing to suck my dick!"


Are you trying to tell me there are people who wouldn't want to suck my dick?
 
2014-03-31 01:43:51 PM  

gfid: PETA and teh Sea Shepherds can suck my dick - and they probably would if given the chance.


I wasn't aware that middle schoolers were still using homosexuality is a pejorative.
 
2014-03-31 01:48:59 PM  

McShen: /CSB Time!
  I used to work in Antarctica on board the icebreakers that are leased out to the US Antarctic Program. We were in the Ross Sea one trip (circa 2006/7?) and I was randomly wandering around the ship during my "working" hours, which I think was midnight to noon that particular trip. Well, I happened to be up on the bridge (around 2 or 3 AM) when the mate on watch looks on the radar and says, "there's something out there." We start looking out the windows and sure enough, there's a ship a goodly bit out there, but it's completely blacked out and not transmitting anything on AIS (illegal on a vessel that size) nor responding to hails on any radio freqs. The mate decides it's best to steer a bit clear of this unknown vessel and we're probably about 3-5 miles away when suddenly all the lights come up and this ship starts making headway directly towards us. Mind you, our ship is a BRIGHT creme and orange colored US flagged research vessel that does not have any outward appearance of a whaling ship. They close to within a half mile and finally slow down and talk to us on the radio. Turns out these morons are no other than the specials at sea shepard and thought we were a whaling ship, so they were coming to attack us. When we finally got it clear to them that we were not whalers, they came at us head on and passed on the right side (a big no no for seagoing vessels) then had the audacity to ask us if we had seen any of the whaling vessels and then asked for our sat phone numbers so they could call us and have us report on any Japanese whaling vessel activity. We refused to give them any info. A short while later (same trip for me) is when they had the incident where they rammed one of the Japanese ships.

End CSB.


The ONLY reason my friends and I used to watch that Whale Wars show (after smoking/drinking various things of course) was to see how unbelievably terrible they were at running the ship and crew. The entire ship is staffed with complete morons!
 
2014-03-31 01:52:24 PM  

Egoy3k: gfid: PETA and teh Sea Shepherds can suck my dick - and they probably would if given the chance.

I wasn't aware that middle schoolers were still using homosexuality is a pejorative.


I'm pretty sure there are some female Sea Shepherds and PETA freaks.

I'm actually surprised you got anything homo-erotic out of my post, but if you did you can suck my dick too.

Not that there's anything wrong with a fine young man like you sucking my dick,
 
2014-03-31 02:02:23 PM  
Seriously what need is there to hunt whale anymore?   we do not need the oil and have not for more than a century now, and the meat and blubber that would only be needed for native people like the Eskimo tribes of Alaska.
 
2014-03-31 02:08:43 PM  

gfid: Egoy3k: gfid: PETA and teh Sea Shepherds can suck my dick - and they probably would if given the chance.

I wasn't aware that middle schoolers were still using homosexuality is a pejorative.

I'm pretty sure there are some female Sea Shepherds and PETA freaks.

I'm actually surprised you got anything homo-erotic out of my post, but if you did you can suck my dick too.

Not that there's anything wrong with a fine young man like you sucking my dick,


Oh so you were not using homosexuality is an insult because you were actually only referring to the female members of both organizations that have male members? So you were in actuality using promiscuity (but only for the women) as an insult? I'm oh so very sorry that I had assumed you were a douchebag.....
 
2014-03-31 02:21:03 PM  
maxheck:The point being, and I've heard this from several people on Fark and elsewhere who also have had whale... It sucks.


I've had it as a steak and it was good: sort of like beef, but richer.

I've also had it as "whale ham" and it was appalling.
 
2014-03-31 02:28:17 PM  

Egoy3k: gfid: Egoy3k: gfid: PETA and teh Sea Shepherds can suck my dick - and they probably would if given the chance.

I wasn't aware that middle schoolers were still using homosexuality is a pejorative.

I'm pretty sure there are some female Sea Shepherds and PETA freaks.

I'm actually surprised you got anything homo-erotic out of my post, but if you did you can suck my dick too.

Not that there's anything wrong with a fine young man like you sucking my dick,

Oh so you were not using homosexuality is an insult because you were actually only referring to the female members of both organizations that have male members? So you were in actuality using promiscuity (but only for the women) as an insult? I'm oh so very sorry that I had assumed you were a douchebag.....


Suck my dick

And no I was NOT using homosexuality as an insult you flaming retard.;
 
2014-03-31 02:35:13 PM  

scottydoesntknow: McShen: /CSB Time!
  I used to work in Antarctica on board the icebreakers that are leased out to the US Antarctic Program. We were in the Ross Sea one trip (circa 2006/7?) and I was randomly wandering around the ship during my "working" hours, which I think was midnight to noon that particular trip. Well, I happened to be up on the bridge (around 2 or 3 AM) when the mate on watch looks on the radar and says, "there's something out there." We start looking out the windows and sure enough, there's a ship a goodly bit out there, but it's completely blacked out and not transmitting anything on AIS (illegal on a vessel that size) nor responding to hails on any radio freqs. The mate decides it's best to steer a bit clear of this unknown vessel and we're probably about 3-5 miles away when suddenly all the lights come up and this ship starts making headway directly towards us. Mind you, our ship is a BRIGHT creme and orange colored US flagged research vessel that does not have any outward appearance of a whaling ship. They close to within a half mile and finally slow down and talk to us on the radio. Turns out these morons are no other than the specials at sea shepard and thought we were a whaling ship, so they were coming to attack us. When we finally got it clear to them that we were not whalers, they came at us head on and passed on the right side (a big no no for seagoing vessels) then had the audacity to ask us if we had seen any of the whaling vessels and then asked for our sat phone numbers so they could call us and have us report on any Japanese whaling vessel activity. We refused to give them any info. A short while later (same trip for me) is when they had the incident where they rammed one of the Japanese ships.

End CSB.

The ONLY reason my friends and I used to watch that Whale Wars show (after smoking/drinking various things of course) was to see how unbelievably terrible they were at running the ship and crew. The entire ship is staffed with complete morons!


Of course it is. If they actually accomplished anything the show would be over after the first episode.
 
2014-03-31 02:35:51 PM  

gfid: Egoy3k: gfid: Egoy3k: gfid: PETA and teh Sea Shepherds can suck my dick - and they probably would if given the chance.

I wasn't aware that middle schoolers were still using homosexuality is a pejorative.

I'm pretty sure there are some female Sea Shepherds and PETA freaks.

I'm actually surprised you got anything homo-erotic out of my post, but if you did you can suck my dick too.

Not that there's anything wrong with a fine young man like you sucking my dick,

Oh so you were not using homosexuality is an insult because you were actually only referring to the female members of both organizations that have male members? So you were in actuality using promiscuity (but only for the women) as an insult? I'm oh so very sorry that I had assumed you were a douchebag.....

Suck my dick

And no I was NOT using homosexuality as an insult you flaming retard.;


So a legitimate solicitation?
 
2014-03-31 02:48:29 PM  

scottydoesntknow: So what's to stop Japan from just saying they're now whaling for commercial porpoises? Norway and Iceland seem to do that without any consequence.


The lack of cocaine needed by the business cetaceans.
 
2014-03-31 02:52:38 PM  

ReverendJynxed: So a legitimate solicitation?


Yes, of course.  It may sound strange, but if you ask 100 people (male or female) to suck your dick, you'll get a few nibbles if you know what I mean.  The ones that think you're queer or just some sort of pervert don't really matter.

Okay?  Are we done yet?

FFS, this all started because some fool thought that an offhand comment about sucking my dick was an insult to homosexuals.  I think it says more about the person who had a problem with it than me.
 
2014-03-31 03:00:12 PM  
gfid:FFS, this all started because some fool thought that an offhand comment about sucking my dick was an insult to homosexuals.  I think it says more about the person who had a problem with it than me.

What exactly does it say about me?
 
2014-03-31 03:13:06 PM  

scottydoesntknow: The ONLY reason my friends and I used to watch that Whale Wars show (after smoking/drinking various things of course) was to see how unbelievably terrible they were at running the ship and crew. The entire ship is staffed with complete morons!


Mostly true, but I think I'd have beers with the helicopter pilot, seems like a cool guy.
 
2014-03-31 03:24:56 PM  

McShen: /CSB Time!
  I used to work in Antarctica on board the icebreakers that are leased out to the US Antarctic Program. We were in the Ross Sea one trip (circa 2006/7?) and I was randomly wandering around the ship during my "working" hours, which I think was midnight to noon that particular trip. Well, I happened to be up on the bridge (around 2 or 3 AM) when the mate on watch looks on the radar and says, "there's something out there." We start looking out the windows and sure enough, there's a ship a goodly bit out there, but it's completely blacked out and not transmitting anything on AIS (illegal on a vessel that size) nor responding to hails on any radio freqs. The mate decides it's best to steer a bit clear of this unknown vessel and we're probably about 3-5 miles away when suddenly all the lights come up and this ship starts making headway directly towards us. Mind you, our ship is a BRIGHT creme and orange colored US flagged research vessel that does not have any outward appearance of a whaling ship. They close to within a half mile and finally slow down and talk to us on the radio. Turns out these morons are no other than the specials at sea shepard and thought we were a whaling ship, so they were coming to attack us. When we finally got it clear to them that we were not whalers, they came at us head on and passed on the right side (a big no no for seagoing vessels) then had the audacity to ask us if we had seen any of the whaling vessels and then asked for our sat phone numbers so they could call us and have us report on any Japanese whaling vessel activity. We refused to give them any info. A short while later (same trip for me) is when they had the incident where they rammed one of the Japanese ships.

End CSB.


I've always imagined that life aboard that ship would be just like being packed into tight quarters with tens of those annoying Greenpeace signature vultures.

Well, except smellier and angrier.
 
2014-03-31 04:20:20 PM  

Egoy3k: gfid:FFS, this all started because some fool thought that an offhand comment about sucking my dick was an insult to homosexuals.  I think it says more about the person who had a problem with it than me.

What exactly does it say about me?


I think it says you think too much about homosexuality.
 
2014-03-31 05:23:17 PM  

gfid: Egoy3k: gfid:FFS, this all started because some fool thought that an offhand comment about sucking my dick was an insult to homosexuals.  I think it says more about the person who had a problem with it than me.

What exactly does it say about me?

I think it says you think too much about homosexuality.


So that's bad? As in you are using it as an insult again? Like this kids in middle school are wont to do?
 
2014-03-31 06:11:49 PM  
www.plughead.net

I'm the Weeners this? Wow.
 
2014-03-31 07:25:55 PM  

gfid: Egoy3k: gfid:FFS, this all started because some fool thought that an offhand comment about sucking my dick was an insult to homosexuals.  I think it says more about the person who had a problem with it than me.

What exactly does it say about me?

I think it says you think too much about homosexuality.



FFS just admit that you typed like an idiot for a moment and move on.  We've all said something stupid on the internet, you didn't just discover how to do it.
 
2014-03-31 08:10:21 PM  

neuroflare: [www.plughead.net image 850x478]

I'm the Weeners this? Wow.


You're the penis all right.
 
2014-03-31 09:34:46 PM  
A common theme with endangered animals is lifespan and reproduction rate. Most of the tropical birds, rhinos, whales, and so forth live to be about 60-80 years. Minke whales can live up to 60 years. Hyacinth Macaws can live to be 80.

... anyway, point being, to compensate for longer life spans, they reproduce less. For example, a Spix Macaw won't mate until they've been courting for 3 YEARS, then they can make babies. Take into account their already zapped population, and you can see the problem there.

The Minke Whale - what Japanese farm - is not at all endangered. There is no concern about it. But, given the propensity of animals with long lifespans and low birthrates to die off quickly when interfered with by humans, it is something people should be careful of.

These animals have no place in today's natural world. They can't breed fast enough to keep up with humans killing them or taking their habitats. You have to live short and screw like rabbits to keep up with humans. That sucks and all, but it's not realistic to save every damn species on the planet, especially the larger ones. Ones we start making homes in the oceans, the whales will probably be the first to go.
 
2014-03-31 11:15:44 PM  

JPSimonetti: A common theme with endangered animals is lifespan and reproduction rate. Most of the tropical birds, rhinos, whales, and so forth live to be about 60-80 years. Minke whales can live up to 60 years. Hyacinth Macaws can live to be 80.

... anyway, point being, to compensate for longer life spans, they reproduce less. For example, a Spix Macaw won't mate until they've been courting for 3 YEARS, then they can make babies. Take into account their already zapped population, and you can see the problem there.

The Minke Whale - what Japanese farm - is not at all endangered. There is no concern about it. But, given the propensity of animals with long lifespans and low birthrates to die off quickly when interfered with by humans, it is something people should be careful of.

These animals have no place in today's natural world. They can't breed fast enough to keep up with humans killing them or taking their habitats. You have to live short and screw like rabbits to keep up with humans. That sucks and all, but it's not realistic to save every damn species on the planet, especially the larger ones. Ones we start making homes in the oceans, the whales will probably be the first to go.


We don't compete with our ecosystem like animals, we use our intellect to make tools to get resources. We're not saving the whales we're just not killing all of them. The attitude that animals going extinct because they can't compete is going to mean that all wild animals on earth will eventually be either dead or in captivity. That's terrible, and will probably have unintended consequences.
 
2014-03-31 11:40:48 PM  

mccallcl: We don't compete with our ecosystem like animals, we use our intellect to make tools to get resources. We're not saving the whales we're just not killing all of them. The attitude that animals going extinct because they can't compete is going to mean that all wild animals on earth will eventually be either dead or in captivity. That's terrible, and will probably have unintended consequences.


screenshots.filesnetwork.com
 
2014-04-01 01:44:10 AM  

McShen: /CSB Time!
  I used to work in Antarctica on board the icebreakers that are leased out to the US Antarctic Program. We were in the Ross Sea one trip (circa 2006/7?) and I was randomly wandering around the ship during my "working" hours, which I think was midnight to noon that particular trip. Well, I happened to be up on the bridge (around 2 or 3 AM) when the mate on watch looks on the radar and says, "there's something out there." We start looking out the windows and sure enough, there's a ship a goodly bit out there, but it's completely blacked out and not transmitting anything on AIS (illegal on a vessel that size) nor responding to hails on any radio freqs. The mate decides it's best to steer a bit clear of this unknown vessel and we're probably about 3-5 miles away when suddenly all the lights come up and this ship starts making headway directly towards us. Mind you, our ship is a BRIGHT creme and orange colored US flagged research vessel that does not have any outward appearance of a whaling ship. They close to within a half mile and finally slow down and talk to us on the radio. Turns out these morons are no other than the specials at sea shepard and thought we were a whaling ship, so they were coming to attack us. When we finally got it clear to them that we were not whalers, they came at us head on and passed on the right side (a big no no for seagoing vessels) then had the audacity to ask us if we had seen any of the whaling vessels and then asked for our sat phone numbers so they could call us and have us report on any Japanese whaling vessel activity. We refused to give them any info. A short while later (same trip for me) is when they had the incident where they rammed one of the Japanese ships.

End CSB.


My god! An actual cool story, Bro!
 
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