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2014-03-31 12:11:33 AM  
Because Star Wars is fantasy, not science fiction?

/dnltp
 
2014-03-31 12:12:53 AM  
Hand banana?
 
2014-03-31 12:19:00 AM  
Well nerds, your King has spoken. Star Trek is superior to Star Wars in every way.

NDT now stands for Nobody Disses Trek.
 
2014-03-31 12:48:56 AM  
If this guy wants to talk science, whatever. But here he is yapping about a couple of fictional TV shows/movies and we get yet another thread. If you want to blow him for being a brilliant astrophysicist, ok, but this thread is beyond the pale.
 
2014-03-31 01:00:33 AM  
Star Wars has lightsabers. The end.

Game over.

Book it, Danno.

Turn out the lights on your way out.

Flush the toilet when you are done.

Make sure the oven is off.

Lock the door behind you.
 
2014-03-31 01:32:13 AM  
He should do Barbarella next.
 
2014-03-31 01:49:03 AM  

John Buck 41: If this guy wants to talk science, whatever. But here he is yapping about a couple of fictional TV shows/movies and we get yet another thread. If you want to blow him for being a brilliant astrophysicist, ok, but this thread is beyond the pale.


and it's from May 2013 and was making the internet rounds back then due to "Into Darkness" opening, and nothing to do with the current "Cosmos" tv reboot.

way to stay timely, Fark.
 
2014-03-31 02:01:00 AM  

HawgWild: Star Wars has lightsabers. The end.

Game over.

Book it, Danno.

Turn out the lights on your way out.

Flush the toilet when you are done.

Make sure the oven is off.

Lock the door behind you.


Just like you wouldn't bring a knife to a gun fight, a lightsaber would be no match for a Phaser set to kill. It would just disintegrate the little vroomy sword, then where would Mr. Midichlorian be?
 
2014-03-31 03:20:01 AM  

fusillade762: Because Star Wars is fantasy, not science fiction?

/dnltp


Star Trek is fantasy, too.

Sci fi is fantasy in space.
 
2014-03-31 03:57:23 AM  

John Buck 41: If this guy wants to talk science, whatever. But here he is yapping about a couple of fictional TV shows/movies and we get yet another thread. If you want to blow him for being a brilliant astrophysicist, ok, but this thread is beyond the pale.


Yeah.

Let's go back to Ted Nugent and Victoria Jackson talking about politics.
 
2014-03-31 04:02:32 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: John Buck 41: If this guy wants to talk science, whatever. But here he is yapping about a couple of fictional TV shows/movies and we get yet another thread. If you want to blow him for being a brilliant astrophysicist, ok, but this thread is beyond the pale.

Yeah.

Let's go back to Ted Nugent and Victoria Jackson talking about politics.


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2014-03-31 05:53:04 AM  

doglover: fusillade762: Because Star Wars is fantasy, not science fiction?

/dnltp

Star Trek is fantasy, too.

Sci fi is fantasy in space.


Correction: sci-fi is fantasy where the magic words are borrowed from science textbooks.
 
2014-03-31 06:01:45 AM  

calbert: John Buck 41: If this guy wants to talk science, whatever. But here he is yapping about a couple of fictional TV shows/movies and we get yet another thread. If you want to blow him for being a brilliant astrophysicist, ok, but this thread is beyond the pale.

and it's from May 2013 and was making the internet rounds back then due to "Into Darkness" opening, and nothing to do with the current "Cosmos" tv reboot.

way to stay timely, Fark.


He's way more in the news today than he was in May 2013. Way to not understand timing.
 
2014-03-31 06:04:38 AM  
I'm...

sorry, subby, but...

Kirk...

is superior...

to Picard, there's just no competition. If you want...

a real man...

to helm a star...

ship...

then you have to look to Kirk...

to lead the way.
 
2014-03-31 06:07:45 AM  

calbert: John Buck 41: If this guy wants to talk science, whatever. But here he is yapping about a couple of fictional TV shows/movies and we get yet another thread. If you want to blow him for being a brilliant astrophysicist, ok, but this thread is beyond the pale.

and it's from May 2013 and was making the internet rounds back then due to "Into Darkness" opening, and nothing to do with the current "Cosmos" tv reboot.

way to stay timely, Fark.


And I figure most Farkers are pretty media-savvy, it's most of the point of this website after all. Do you wonder why there are more Game of Thrones threads in the last couple of weeks (and the next couple) than there were in January? Do you wonder why there might be an interest in something he said a year ago to people who never heard of him until the last few weeks?

I am sort of amazed that Farkers fail to understand this website essentially exists at any given point in time independently of what becomes before or after. It's like you don't understand the concept of not news at all!
 
2014-03-31 06:08:44 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: doglover: fusillade762: Because Star Wars is fantasy, not science fiction?

/dnltp

Star Trek is fantasy, too.

Sci fi is fantasy in space.

Correction: sci-fi is fantasy where the magic words are borrowed from science textbooks.


Not always. I especially liked the Darksword stuff where, like Slayers, the magic was all pent up in one place. Then the space marines came, or someone like them, and it was like Warhammer vs 40k for a book there.

Anyway, Simkin was a young Fizban and that's always fun to read.
 
2014-03-31 06:10:20 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: HawgWild: Star Wars has lightsabers. The end.

Game over.

Book it, Danno.

Turn out the lights on your way out.

Flush the toilet when you are done.

Make sure the oven is off.

Lock the door behind you.

Just like you wouldn't bring a knife to a gun fight, a lightsaber would be no match for a Phaser set to kill. It would just disintegrate the little vroomy sword, then where would Mr. Midichlorian be?


Oh, come on now, Jedi would block the phaser beam with the lightsaber, then use the force to take the gun away, or choke out the shooter, or make the shooter turn the phaser on themselves....
Now if you lobbed a photon torpedo at a Jedi....might be a different story....
 
2014-03-31 06:15:56 AM  

fusillade762: Because Star Wars is fantasy, not science fiction?

/dnltp


At least Star Wars knows it...

img3.wikia.nocookie.net

"Reactivated introns"?  Seriously?  But hey, I love SW and ST, so who's counting?
 
2014-03-31 06:55:35 AM  

John Buck 41: If this guy wants to talk science, whatever. But here he is yapping about a couple of fictional TV shows/movies and we get yet another thread. If you want to blow him for being a brilliant astrophysicist, ok, but this thread is beyond the pale.


What is it with you and Neal Degrasse Tyson? Every thread you pop in to say how annoying threads about NDT are. It's like you have no idea the "stop liking what I don't like" meme exists. Did he not sign an autograph for you one time so now you hate him? Were you a budding astrophysicist who just has no personality and you hate him for his celebrity status? I mean, it has to be something like that because you can't POSSIBLY be complaining that the internet is too small for the amount of NDT articles in it. Seriously, get a hobby.
 
2014-03-31 06:56:34 AM  
Kirk would have been far superior if they had produced the show they had wanted to produce.  They didn't have the money though so what they produced was wrestlemania in space with lots of suggestive make out scenes. He was always written as the smartest guy in the room who cared about his subordinates, and kept his head in combat.  They he went out and did a bunch of stupid things and got into fistfights because that's a lot cheaper to film.
 
2014-03-31 07:01:39 AM  
It's old and he just says he never got into Star Wars . . .
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-31 07:02:14 AM  
Of the four Star franchises: Wars, Trek, Gate, and Search, Gate is easily my third favourite.
 
2014-03-31 07:09:55 AM  

starsrift: I'm...

sorry, subby, but...

Kirk...

is superior...

to Picard, there's just no competition. If you want...

a real man...

to helm a star...

ship...

then you have to look to Kirk...

to lead the way.


Kirk would have lost his ass to the Borg.
 
2014-03-31 07:10:04 AM  
And Picard was on the last episode of Cosmos...


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-31 07:12:01 AM  
Star Trek is a western in space.

Star Wars is mythic space opera.

Babylon 5 was Tolkein in Space, with a lot more Newtonian physics than either Star Trek or Star Wars.

Space:1999 was Star Trek with a giant rock instead of a wagon train-turned-starship.

Battlestar Galactica was mythic space opera with a thick layer of Mormon theology.

Space: Above and Beyond was probably the closest to believable science-fiction of all the "great conflicts in space" series in recent years.
 
2014-03-31 07:13:05 AM  

Muta: Kirk would have lost his ass to the Borg.


No way, Kirk would have been like Assimilate This! and punch all those slow-moving dopes to the sounds of awesome Trek fighting tunes. There would have been no Locutus if Kirk was around. Just a lot of dead mysterious robot people, let's move on Spock.
 
2014-03-31 07:19:14 AM  
Is he trolling gravity again? I understand it's hilarious when he does that
 
2014-03-31 07:20:54 AM  

John Buck 41: If this guy wants to talk science, whatever. But here he is yapping about a couple of fictional TV shows/movies and we get yet another thread. If you want to blow him for being a brilliant astrophysicist, ok, but this thread is beyond the pale.


What, are we running out of internets and need to ration them now?

Geez... You sound so very, very butthurt. Did he steal your girlfriend and they laughed at your little wing-wang together or something? Here's a tip: if you don't like NDT or threads about him don't click on them. That's as easy as eatin' pancakes.
 
2014-03-31 07:21:39 AM  

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Is he trolling gravity again? I understand it's hilarious when he does that


I think the hilarity factor could only be increased if he did his trolling on a social network like, oh I don't know... Twitter.
 
2014-03-31 07:22:01 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Star Trek is a western in space.

Star Wars is mythic space opera.

Babylon 5 was Tolkein in Space, with a lot more Newtonian physics than either Star Trek or Star Wars.

Space:1999 was Star Trek with a giant rock instead of a wagon train-turned-starship.

Battlestar Galactica was mythic space opera with a thick layer of Mormon theology.

Space: Above and Beyond was probably the closest to believable science-fiction of all the "great conflicts in space" series in recent years.


...and Farscape was a wagonload of crazy and fun crammed into a delicious shell of Henson;s castoffs and kookiness brewed to fruition thanks to some Aussies and Americans convinced that chicks in bodypaint and Muppets played well together with Warner Brothers cartoon mentality. And they were right...
 
2014-03-31 07:23:01 AM  
ST >> SW
JTK > JLP

I love fantasy and sci fi both. Star Trek had a good dose of SF in there, SW was pure fantasy. Star Wars would rank rank much higher, except for the aforementioned 1-3.
 
2014-03-31 07:24:07 AM  

WinoRhino: John Buck 41: If this guy wants to talk science, whatever. But here he is yapping about a couple of fictional TV shows/movies and we get yet another thread. If you want to blow him for being a brilliant astrophysicist, ok, but this thread is beyond the pale.

What is it with you and Neal Degrasse Tyson? Every thread you pop in to say how annoying threads about NDT are. It's like you have no idea the "stop liking what I don't like" meme exists. Did he not sign an autograph for you one time so now you hate him?



He could have signed an autograph for Matthew. That's his little brother man, he's only six years old. They waited in the blistering cold for Neal, four hours and you just said "No."
 
2014-03-31 07:24:33 AM  

SquiggsIN: UNC_Samurai: Star Trek is a western in space.

Star Wars is mythic space opera.

Babylon 5 was Tolkein in Space, with a lot more Newtonian physics than either Star Trek or Star Wars.

Space:1999 was Star Trek with a giant rock instead of a wagon train-turned-starship.

Battlestar Galactica was mythic space opera with a thick layer of Mormon theology.

Space: Above and Beyond was probably the closest to believable science-fiction of all the "great conflicts in space" series in recent years.


I didn't watch too many episodes of BSG and never saw the original.  Could you give me a quick summation of how BSG was layered with Mormon theology?


It's not like it's been well documented or anything...
 
2014-03-31 07:24:52 AM  

SquiggsIN: UNC_Samurai: Star Trek is a western in space.

Star Wars is mythic space opera.

Babylon 5 was Tolkein in Space, with a lot more Newtonian physics than either Star Trek or Star Wars.

Space:1999 was Star Trek with a giant rock instead of a wagon train-turned-starship.

Battlestar Galactica was mythic space opera with a thick layer of Mormon theology.

Space: Above and Beyond was probably the closest to believable science-fiction of all the "great conflicts in space" series in recent years.


I didn't watch too many episodes of BSG and never saw the original.  Could you give me a quick summation of how BSG was layered with Mormon theology?


I found this via the google.
 
2014-03-31 07:28:19 AM  

mongbiohazard: John Buck 41: If this guy wants to talk science, whatever. But here he is yapping about a couple of fictional TV shows/movies and we get yet another thread. If you want to blow him for being a brilliant astrophysicist, ok, but this thread is beyond the pale.

What, are we running out of internets and need to ration them now?

Geez... You sound so very, very butthurt. Did he steal your girlfriend and they laughed at your little wing-wang together or something? Here's a tip: if you don't like NDT or threads about him don't click on them. That's as easy as eatin' pancakes.


Then he can't complain bitterly, and that would deny him the basic pleasure of complaining about the hipsterism of science, which is apparently a thing now. Darned kids, and their interest in the universe and all its wonders; why back in his day, science was boring or laden with cardigans and suits, and was as boring as a Presbyterian's bedroom, and that's the way they liked it...
 
2014-03-31 07:36:01 AM  
Original Star Wars > STTNG > Original Star Trek > "Reimagined" Star Trek > Star Wars Episodes 1 through 3

This is the correct ranking - there can be no debate
 
2014-03-31 07:36:47 AM  
Is that page supposed to contain a video?

In Chrome, FF, and IE it's just showing me a huge blank space and then the article starts with

"Neil deGrasse Tyson is the world's most famous astrophysicist, and he is a HUGE Trekkie.""
 
2014-03-31 07:36:51 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Hand banana?


i296.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-31 07:38:58 AM  
HawgWild: Star Wars has lightsabers  JAR-JAR BINKS. The end.
 
2014-03-31 07:40:20 AM  
+1 internets for Farscape!!!  Just for Chiana.
 
2014-03-31 07:40:46 AM  
Please tell me we're past his NDGT's peak.

Kind of sick of hearing about him, especially when it's simple shiat people already knew about religion vs science
 
2014-03-31 07:54:16 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Star Trek is a western in space.

Star Wars is mythic space opera.

Babylon 5 was Tolkein in Space, with a lot more Newtonian physics than either Star Trek or Star Wars.

Space:1999 was Star Trek with a giant rock instead of a wagon train-turned-starship.

Battlestar Galactica was mythic space opera with a thick layer of Mormon theology.

Space: Above and Beyond was probably the closest to believable science-fiction of all the "great conflicts in space" series in recent years.


I loved Space: Above and Beyond and was sad that it was canceled after one season.

Although, even as a kid, it bugged me that the military sent their ace pilots on ground ops like they were standard grunts.
 
2014-03-31 08:02:49 AM  

AaronSynn: Now if you lobbed a photon torpedo at a Jedi....might be a different story....


But can a photon torpedo hit a thermal exhaust port that's only 2 meters wide?
 
2014-03-31 08:12:19 AM  

RoyBatty: Is that page supposed to contain a video?

In Chrome, FF, and IE it's just showing me a huge blank space and then the article starts with

"Neil deGrasse Tyson is the world's most famous astrophysicist, and he is a HUGE Trekkie.""


Weird that just happened to me too. I can swear I saw a video there earlier. Someone is having YouTube issues I guess?
 
2014-03-31 08:16:08 AM  

SquiggsIN: hubiestubert / numb3r5ev3n:

I'm sorry.  I (should) know better than to ask someone else to do my research in a fark thread.
/never saw enough bsg to have any idea there was that much so didn't know it would've been so well-documented.


No hoo hoo. It's just nice to have all the stuff in one place. The second series, less so on the Mormon symbolism, but instead, you get a LOT of other extraneous pseudo-religious mumblings and imagery that ruined a decent premise. Mind you, I liked the original re-boot film, and then the series just disappointed me out of my mind. Then again, I have done nothing but despise what they did with The Walking Dead, so my opinions may be suspect with this crowd. Don't get me wrong: the Asian guy GETS the girl for once, without being a cliched villain who is obviously paying/intimidating the nice white girl for once, which is nice, but there is a lot of lazy ass racism bound up in the show to the point that I just can't enjoy it--and not the racism that the redneck brothers engage in, but the laziness that the writers engage in, which sort of sucks the fun out, and butchering the comic's storyline just adds to it. Continuum and Lost Girl show more inventiveness and consistency, and they're bubblegum pop of sci-fi/fantasy, that are trying likewise a bit too hard for a "message" but at least they're not lazily racist...

Why do you even frequent the geek links?  Are you not aware that technology and geeks go hand in hand?
/once we've perfected hand-holding sex androids

[img.fark.net image 800x600]


I'm sure that once we get sexbot technology, there will be a LOT bought, and then quietly "converted" with DIY kits bought on the Interwebs, to preserve the "anonymity" of both the pundit and legislator class...
 
2014-03-31 08:22:10 AM  

Enlightened Liberal: UNC_Samurai: Star Trek is a western in space.

Star Wars is mythic space opera.

Babylon 5 was Tolkein in Space, with a lot more Newtonian physics than either Star Trek or Star Wars.

Space:1999 was Star Trek with a giant rock instead of a wagon train-turned-starship.

Battlestar Galactica was mythic space opera with a thick layer of Mormon theology.

Space: Above and Beyond was probably the closest to believable science-fiction of all the "great conflicts in space" series in recent years.

I loved Space: Above and Beyond and was sad that it was canceled after one season.

Although, even as a kid, it bugged me that the military sent their ace pilots on ground ops like they were standard grunts.


They were Marines.  Like McQueen said, "If you wanted the easy life, you should have joined the Air Force!"
 
2014-03-31 08:23:06 AM  

T-Servo: AaronSynn: Now if you lobbed a photon torpedo at a Jedi....might be a different story....

But can a photon torpedo hit a thermal exhaust port that's only 2 meters wide?


img.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-31 08:48:59 AM  
The correct order is Archer,Kirk, and then Picard.
 
2014-03-31 08:59:25 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: The correct order is Archer,Kirk, and then Picard.


But he only flew one mission

www.mytakeontv.com

Into the danger zone.
 
2014-03-31 09:01:12 AM  
First he demotes Pluto, then he says Kirk is better than Picard? WTF?
 
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