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(YouTube)   The physics behind a successful slapshot and why hockey sticks snap. Warning: There will be math. But there's also cool super slow mo   (youtube.com) divider line 35
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2014-03-30 10:49:35 PM  
That was pretty cool subby.
 
2014-03-30 11:06:42 PM  

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: That was pretty cool subby.


Agreed, that was very cool.
 
2014-03-30 11:10:33 PM  
I like his channel. Destin's a former NASA rocket scientist and now he's doing cool educational vids on YouTube, more recently with lots of cool slomo.  His video on the Prince Rupert's Drop is one of the coolest I've seen.
 
2014-03-30 11:10:57 PM  
A pitcher essentially does the same thing. With his arm.
 
2014-03-30 11:18:24 PM  

Psychopusher: I like his channel. Destin's a former NASA rocket scientist and now he's doing cool educational vids on YouTube, more recently with lots of cool slomo.  His video on the Prince Rupert's Drop is one of the coolest I've seen.


That. His stuff is pretty much always worth watching.
 
2014-03-30 11:18:44 PM  
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2014-03-30 11:21:17 PM  
I was in my local pro-shop a few weeks back, and a sales rep was in the store pitching a new stick (not sure, but i think it was reebok).

Knowing what that video demonstrates, they are starting to "pre-tension" the fibers in the sticks (like steel rebar in pre-cast concrete planks), so they are already loaded at all times. Then taking the shot, you load it even more.

I'd be worried about the things exploding on every third shot, and costing $500 each, but cool none the less.
 
2014-03-30 11:26:31 PM  
Now that was awesome. I always knew the blade would hit the ice before hitting the puck, but never knew why until that.
 
2014-03-30 11:26:39 PM  

LemSkroob: I was in my local pro-shop a few weeks back, and a sales rep was in the store pitching a new stick (not sure, but i think it was reebok).

Knowing what that video demonstrates, they are starting to "pre-tension" the fibers in the sticks (like steel rebar in pre-cast concrete planks), so they are already loaded at all times. Then taking the shot, you load it even more.

I'd be worried about the things exploding on every third shot, and costing $500 each, but cool none the less.


That sounds like marketing nonsense.
 
2014-03-30 11:27:17 PM  

LemSkroob: I was in my local pro-shop a few weeks back, and a sales rep was in the store pitching a new stick (not sure, but i think it was reebok).

Knowing what that video demonstrates, they are starting to "pre-tension" the fibers in the sticks (like steel rebar in pre-cast concrete planks), so they are already loaded at all times. Then taking the shot, you load it even more.

I'd be worried about the things exploding on every third shot, and costing $500 each, but cool none the less.


Sticks are ridiculous now, they cost more than a new driver. And I can't remember the last time I got slashed in the tee box.
 
2014-03-30 11:33:26 PM  
Slapshot video? I'm puting on the foil before I watch that.
 
2014-03-30 11:33:32 PM  
The real power is in the foil.
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2014-03-30 11:34:42 PM  

JoshTheTech: Slapshot video? I'm puting on the foil before I watch that.


Get out of my head!
 
2014-03-30 11:35:08 PM  

LemSkroob: [a.espncdn.com image 275x200]


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2014-03-30 11:48:42 PM  
Very cool but a little behind the times with respect to the newer high-end sticks which manage the flex point in different ways, so not at all like the normal "beam" he proposes.

The last year or so I've been using the Bauer APX which has two flex points, for instance (one above and one below where the lower hand should be during a slap shot). My daughter this year revv'd up to an APX 2 and they absolutely rock.
 
2014-03-30 11:49:01 PM  
That was awesome..
 
2014-03-30 11:56:57 PM  
Huh. So I learned two things.

1. UAH has a hockey team.
2. A hockey player hits the ice before the puck, on purpose. I legitimately did not know that, and just thought that hockey sticks flexed from the natural speed of the swing (like a golf club) and that they snapped from hitting the ice.

Very cool video, subby. Thanks for sharing; I feel like I understand just a bit more about hockey than I did before watching it.
 
2014-03-31 12:05:22 AM  
Really cool video. Thanks subs.
 
2014-03-31 12:23:13 AM  
Real cool video.  Learned a bit about stress levels of sticks.  But how often does a player shoot a puck sitting still with a slapper? Wouldn't the velocity of the puck from a pass or whatever change the limit.
 
2014-03-31 12:45:04 AM  

themunsterfullback: Real cool video.  Learned a bit about stress levels of sticks.  But how often does a player shoot a puck sitting still with a slapper? Wouldn't the velocity of the puck from a pass or whatever change the limit.


A "one timer" slapshot with the puck in motion feels absolutely no different from a slapshot with the puck at your feet (like from the point) or while skating with the puck. Virtually all the resistance is from drawing flex from the ice.

He only touches on it very briefly, but the higher (stiffer) flexes are all for the heavier / stronger guys.

Another thing which he doesn't mention at all is that with lower flexes, you can get the same "whip" effect with a wrist shot. Phil Kessel, for example, is rumoured to have some ridiculously low flex (he doesn't get it printed on the stick). Which is believable because he never uses a slap shot; only wrist shots. Actually, that data is available off the RTSS feed, so you could check to see if that is actually true (that he never uses a slap shot).
 
2014-03-31 01:19:01 AM  
Wait. Alabama is in the WCHA now???

That's just wrong.
 
2014-03-31 01:36:17 AM  
I'm gonna have to try that technique off the tee. Imagine the size of my divots!
 
2014-03-31 04:28:30 AM  
JayCab:
2. A hockey player hits the ice before the puck, on purpose. I legitimately did not know that, and just thought that hockey sticks flexed from the natural speed of the swing (like a golf club) and that they snapped from hitting the ice.

It was sooo much harder to get a slapshot working properly back in the days of super stiff wooden sticks.  It hasn't made a world of difference for the hardest shooters.  Shooters today still have trouble keeping up with an Al MacInnis rocket from the late '80s.  What has changed is that moderate shooters are now capable of booming shots.

Hell, I was at my 6 year old nephew's tournament this weekend, and was flabbergasted when I saw a kid successfully lean into a one-timer.  When I was playing with a Gretzky era Titan, possibly the stiffest stick known to man, it wasn't until I was in my mid-teens before that was possible.  If you ever wondered why Gretzky was almost all wristers and snapshots, this is a big reason why.

A better shot can be bought.
 
2014-03-31 05:45:12 AM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I'm gonna have to try that technique off the tee. Imagine the size of my divots!


I'm trying to imagine the divots, but unfortunately I lost my divot finder in Chosin.
 
2014-03-31 07:20:45 AM  

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Sticks are ridiculous now, they cost more than a new driver. And I can't remember the last time I got slashed in the tee box.

2wolves:

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Synergy achieved

/Very cool find, Subs
//Sometimes bring the old Easton aluminum to stick-and-pucks
 
2014-03-31 09:38:48 AM  

JayCab: Huh. So I learned two things.

1. UAH has a hockey team.
2. A hockey player hits the ice before the puck, on purpose. I legitimately did not know that, and just thought that hockey sticks flexed from the natural speed of the swing (like a golf club) and that they snapped from hitting the ice.

Very cool video, subby. Thanks for sharing; I feel like I understand just a bit more about hockey than I did before watching it.


Could you imagine the difference it could mean if golfers figure out how to preload their drivers the same way.  Like suddenly, all the PGA pros start reaching par 5's in two, every time.  Evidently, hitting the ball to load the club takes some of the energy away that could go to good use if the club was preloaded.  As oppose to golfers who create longer drive stories by getting themselves loaded.
 
2014-03-31 09:42:34 AM  

picodenico: Wait. Alabama is in the WCHA now???

That's just wrong.


I didn't realize there was anyone left in the WCHA.  Half went to the NCHC, a couple went to the "Big Ten".  Looks like Michigan Tech and Alaska Anchorage are the only two older WCHA teams left.
 
2014-03-31 09:48:33 AM  
lack of warmth:

Could you imagine the difference it could mean if golfers figure out how to preload their drivers the same way.  Like suddenly, all the PGA pros start reaching par 5's in two, every time.  Evidently, hitting the ball to load the club takes some of the energy away that could go to good use if the club was preloaded.  As oppose to golfers who create longer drive stories by getting themselves loaded.

Preloaded golf club you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhCtkZbLpWs
 
2014-03-31 11:43:49 AM  

lack of warmth: Could you imagine the difference it could mean if golfers figure out how to preload their drivers the same way.  Like suddenly, all the PGA pros start reaching par 5's in two, every time.  Evidently, hitting the ball to load the club takes some of the energy away that could go to good use if the club was preloaded.  As oppose to golfers who create longer drive stories by getting themselves loaded.


The problem with that idea is grass and dirt gives, ice doesn't
 
2014-03-31 06:11:52 PM  
Yup! Awesome.
 
2014-03-31 09:19:41 PM  

BTing: Preloaded golf club you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhCtkZbLpWs


That's actually kind of neat.
 
2014-04-01 12:22:17 AM  

puffy999: BTing: Preloaded golf club you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhCtkZbLpWs

That's actually kind of neat.


If you could swing that and press the button at the right moment, add dude buggy golf cars, and you have X-Golf. Which I would gladly watch on TV.
 
2014-04-01 09:33:14 AM  
 
2014-04-01 07:43:09 PM  

desertgeek: lack of warmth: Could you imagine the difference it could mean if golfers figure out how to preload their drivers the same way.  Like suddenly, all the PGA pros start reaching par 5's in two, every time.  Evidently, hitting the ball to load the club takes some of the energy away that could go to good use if the club was preloaded.  As oppose to golfers who create longer drive stories by getting themselves loaded.

The problem with that idea is grass and dirt gives, ice doesn't


Doesn't mean it can't be done, only that we haven't figured it out yet.
 
2014-04-01 08:56:28 PM  

reveal101: puffy999: BTing: Preloaded golf club you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhCtkZbLpWs

That's actually kind of neat.

If you could swing that and press the button at the right moment, add dude buggy golf cars, and you have X-Golf. Which I would gladly watch on TV.


Dude Buggy?
 
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