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2014-03-30 07:02:42 PM
First off, fark you, second, this is called progress, third, get used to it.
 
2014-03-30 07:32:21 PM
Your concern is dul SQUIRREL!
 
2014-03-30 07:46:29 PM
First off, deaf people ARE broken.  They are broken because their ears don't work and they cannot hear.  That doesn't make them bad.  It doesn't make them any worse than hearing people, but it certainly doesn't make them any better.  I can also understand that a deaf person may not want to go through all the hoops involved with allowing them to hear.  What I cannot understand is deaf people wanting to prevent other deaf people from gaining or regaining their hearing all in the name of protecting "deaf culture".

What is wrong with the "deaf person hears for the first time" videos is that like so many other things, it takes an intensely personal experience and cheapens it for page clicks and youtube views.
 
2014-03-30 08:19:15 PM

BizarreMan: First off, deaf people ARE broken.  They are broken because their ears don't work and they cannot hear.  That doesn't make them bad.  It doesn't make them any worse than hearing people, but it certainly doesn't make them any better.  I can also understand that a deaf person may not want to go through all the hoops involved with allowing them to hear.  What I cannot understand is deaf people wanting to prevent other deaf people from gaining or regaining their hearing all in the name of protecting "deaf culture".

What is wrong with the "deaf person hears for the first time" videos is that like so many other things, it takes an intensely personal experience and cheapens it for page clicks and youtube views.


I think the author's problem is he's not happy other people in the future might not have to live though what he lived though as a child. It made him who he is and it it makes him so very angery.
 
2014-03-30 09:27:16 PM
there's one video I'm completely sick of seeing and will be happy to never see again

If only there were some way to identify the content of a video before you click on it. Unless she's being mercilessly Rickrolled by "deaf people hear for the first time" videos STFU and DON'T CLICK if you're tired of them.
 
2014-03-30 09:34:41 PM
Only the most rotten, despicable, selfish person could see such a joyful moment and resent it.

/what's her Fark handle?
 
2014-03-30 09:35:39 PM
Just wait until Hilter finds out a deaf woman hears for the first time.
 
2014-03-30 09:36:22 PM
fark that site and their pissy author. We share what we want!
 
2014-03-30 09:37:21 PM
Man, people can find fault in anything.
 
2014-03-30 09:38:51 PM
Just wait until she turns on Top 40 radio and rips the implant out.
 
2014-03-30 09:38:59 PM
[Note: writing Deaf with a capital D separates people who can't hear from people who consider deafness a major part of their cultural and political identity.]

For anyone who managed to make it passed this part(I stoppedreadingthere.jpg), was the rest of the article as blow-hard as I imagined it to be?
 
2014-03-30 09:40:35 PM

BizarreMan: First off, deaf people ARE broken.  They are broken because their ears don't work and they cannot hear.  That doesn't make them bad.  It doesn't make them any worse than hearing people, but it certainly doesn't make them any better.  I can also understand that a deaf person may not want to go through all the hoops involved with allowing them to hear.  What I cannot understand is deaf people wanting to prevent other deaf people from gaining or regaining their hearing all in the name of protecting "deaf culture".

What is wrong with the "deaf person hears for the first time" videos is that like so many other things, it takes an intensely personal experience and cheapens it for page clicks and youtube views.


To hell with you. I'm NOT broken. I'm different. My ears hear differently and not to the same degree as yours. That doesn't mean I need to be "Fixed" for your farking convenience.

No one ever tells a blind person "Hey, just open your eyes!", but someone see you with hearing aids or asks you to repeat, they treat you like an idiot.

I won't lie that much of deaf culture is insanely frustrating. But one thing they're not wrong about: hearing people treat deaf people like shat. Helen Keller once said that between deafness and blindness, she'd take blindness. Blindness takes things from you. Deafness takes people from you, and a lot of them HATE you for not being able to interact with them the same way.
 
2014-03-30 09:40:48 PM
If only there was a hand sign to tell this person to fark off.
 
2014-03-30 09:40:49 PM

TheSwizz: [Note: writing Deaf with a capital D separates people who can't hear from people who consider deafness a major part of their cultural and political identity.]

For anyone who managed to make it passed this part(I stoppedreadingthere.jpg), was the rest of the article as blow-hard as I imagined it to be?


It's a sign you're in Deaf culture territory, and there's nothing else to do but pull the ripcord and bail out.
 
2014-03-30 09:40:50 PM
"stop_liking_what_i_dont_like.jpg"
 
2014-03-30 09:41:09 PM
Deaf adults generally suck. You should see the hate they give if one in the community betters their child's life with a cochlear implant.
 
2014-03-30 09:41:10 PM

fusillade762: there's one video I'm completely sick of seeing and will be happy to never see again

If only there were some way to identify the content of a video before you click on it. Unless she's being mercilessly Rickrolled by "deaf people hear for the first time" videos STFU and DON'T CLICK if you're tired of them.


Would it be mean to rickroll a deaf person hearing for the first time?

I mean, ask them "can you hear this?" then play "Never Gonna Give You Up"?
 
2014-03-30 09:41:38 PM
Well that was a total dickbag article.   Makes you think the whole website might be just a bunch of wierdies
 
2014-03-30 09:41:58 PM

alice_600: BizarreMan: First off, deaf people ARE broken.  They are broken because their ears don't work and they cannot hear.  That doesn't make them bad.  It doesn't make them any worse than hearing people, but it certainly doesn't make them any better.  I can also understand that a deaf person may not want to go through all the hoops involved with allowing them to hear.  What I cannot understand is deaf people wanting to prevent other deaf people from gaining or regaining their hearing all in the name of protecting "deaf culture".

What is wrong with the "deaf person hears for the first time" videos is that like so many other things, it takes an intensely personal experience and cheapens it for page clicks and youtube views.

I think the author's problem is he's not happy other people in the future might not have to live though what he lived though as a child. It made him who he is and it it makes him so very angery.


I believe the author is female and not hearing impaired.
 
2014-03-30 09:43:11 PM

LoneWolf343: Only the most rotten, despicable, selfish person could see such a joyful moment and resent it.

/what's her Fark handle?


Or people who have found their intensely personal difficulty actually gives them membership into a wonderful, emotionally supportive community. Seriously, this entire thread needs to go hang out with Deaf people for a while. They've taken a disability and turned it into an amazing culture. If autism does half as well I'll be proud.
 
2014-03-30 09:44:28 PM

PsiChick: LoneWolf343: Only the most rotten, despicable, selfish person could see such a joyful moment and resent it.

/what's her Fark handle?

Or people who have found their intensely personal difficulty actually gives them membership into a wonderful, emotionally supportive community. Seriously, this entire thread needs to go hang out with Deaf people for a while. They've taken a disability and turned it into an amazing culture. If autism does half as well I'll be proud.


It won't, because by definition, people with autism have trouble managing interpersonal relationships.
 
2014-03-30 09:44:57 PM
"Deaf Man's Deaf Friends Way Too Into Deaf Culture"
 
2014-03-30 09:45:36 PM

whither_apophis: Just wait until Hilter finds out a deaf woman hears for the first time.


Anne Frank?
 
2014-03-30 09:45:47 PM
I can't hear you.
 
2014-03-30 09:45:53 PM
Is this like when some Belgians come to America and one of them learns English, and another one of them gets all pissed off about it because not knowing English is what made them an important part of the Belgian-American community and oh they think they're so much better than the rest of us Belgians because now they can communicate more effectively with more people than just those inside their little cultural circle?
 
2014-03-30 09:46:59 PM
I guess it's a strength-in-numbers argument? There are more resources for deaf people if there are more of them. If a culture starts to shrink, the quality of life for those in it can go down (e.g. less demand for sign language interpreters and telecommunications relay services would hurt those industries and potentially reduce quality and availability of service).
 
2014-03-30 09:47:25 PM
You're deficient, busted, crippled. Pretending otherwise doesn't change reality. Without civilization, you'd be eaten by predators in the wild. Does that make you subhuman? Nope. But don't act as though it in any way makes you better than those that weren't born defective.
 
2014-03-30 09:47:32 PM
The only thing I learned from this article is deaf people have far more psychological issues caused by being deaf than just the biological issue of being not able to hear.
 
2014-03-30 09:47:44 PM
Okay, so I'm admittedly an idiot, so forgive me for sounding really dumb here. Just scrolled through a bunch of Google results for the lady in the video, and they all say "hears for the first time," only one link I saw said deaf "most of her life."

But she responds really well to questions and verbal cues the physician is giving her, so she obviously recognizes the words (days of the week, months, etc...) or sounds making up the communication between the two.

I guess what I'm asking is, if you'd never heard sounds in your whole life, or at least hadn't heard them in the vast majority of your life, how could you possibly associate those words/ sentences and their sounds with things you'd only really had visually clues about? Shouldn't it all just be, well, noise to you until you learn/relearn it?

I know this probably seems really stupid. Sorry, just curious.
 
2014-03-30 09:48:36 PM
You're bad mostly because you're shiatting up my facebook feed with schmaltzy "inspirational" articles and videos that are meant to demonstrate how compassionate you are. I find it a bit vain.
 
2014-03-30 09:49:53 PM
These "inspiring" videos continue to push one of the most problematic narratives in the history of the Deaf community: that deaf people are broken and therefore need to be "fixed."

This is the most complete and utter bullshiat I've ever read.

It's not watching someone "broken" get fixed. It's watching someone have an experience they've never had before and wanting to share their joy.
 
2014-03-30 09:50:18 PM
This is an article that requires you to have an open mind.

Its not gonna do well on Fark! HA
 
2014-03-30 09:50:35 PM
The author is trying to say deaf people are not broken and we should not be happy when they are fixed.

The author is wrong.
 
2014-03-30 09:50:42 PM
These "inspiring" videos continue to push one of the most problematic narratives in the history of the Deaf community: that deaf people are broken and therefore need to be "fixed."

That's because you are broken.  That some can be fixed is something to rejoice, not denounce, you farking asshole.
 
2014-03-30 09:53:20 PM
Why is everyone so against being a functioning member of society
 
2014-03-30 09:54:30 PM

Shakin_Haitian: Deaf adults generally suck. You should see the hate they give if one in the community betters their child's life with a cochlear implant.


Well, IMHO, an implant is a choice a person should make, not parents. But I can't be too angry, and I do think it's done for the right motives.

And for the record, I don't have any problem with someone who wants one choosing an implant. I don't know why - they sound like crap according to everyone I know with one.

What's really sad is CODAs - Child of Deaf Adults. I know one who had to negotiate a mortgage application as a go-between for them and the lender. It was really sad.

Nem Wan: I guess it's a strength-in-numbers argument? There are more resources for deaf people if there are more of them. If a culture starts to shrink, the quality of life for those in it can go down (e.g. less demand for sign language interpreters and telecommunications relay services would hurt those industries and potentially reduce quality and availability of service).


it's not so much that - our access to those services are guaranteed by ADA (though I can understand the fear of those who remember before it). What it is is dealing with people like BizzareMan who insist our difference is something we need to hide and lie about and compensate for.
 
2014-03-30 09:54:44 PM

TinyFist: But she responds really well to questions and verbal cues the physician is giving her, so she obviously recognizes the words


probably lip-reading.
 
2014-03-30 09:55:18 PM

Shakin_Haitian: Deaf adults generally suck. You should see the hate they give if one in the community betters their child's life with a cochlear implant.


Yup. My parents have both been involved in audiology their entire lives...part of that developing software algorithms for use in cochlear implants. They say the exact same thing.
 
2014-03-30 09:55:22 PM
so in conclusion deaf people shouldn't be allowed to get married?
 
2014-03-30 09:56:06 PM
What?
 
2014-03-30 09:56:33 PM

BizarreMan: What is wrong with the "deaf person hears for the first time" videos is that like so many other things, it takes an intensely personal experience and cheapens it for page clicks and youtube views.


Exactly - and those views can be monetized - so take it one final step further - I'll take your intensely emotional experience and monetize it for my benefit.

Sad.
 
2014-03-30 09:56:39 PM

OgreMagi: These "inspiring" videos continue to push one of the most problematic narratives in the history of the Deaf community: that deaf people are broken and therefore need to be "fixed."

That's because you are broken.  That some can be fixed is something to rejoice, not denounce, you farking asshole.


Man, you're an asshole on every tab, aren't you?
 
2014-03-30 09:57:17 PM

BizarreMan: First off, deaf people ARE broken.  They are broken because their ears don't work and they cannot hear.  That doesn't make them bad.  It doesn't make them any worse than hearing people, but it certainly doesn't make them any better.  I can also understand that a deaf person may not want to go through all the hoops involved with allowing them to hear.  What I cannot understand is deaf people wanting to prevent other deaf people from gaining or regaining their hearing all in the name of protecting "deaf culture".

What is wrong with the "deaf person hears for the first time" videos is that like so many other things, it takes an intensely personal experience and cheapens it for page clicks and youtube views.


QFT.
 
2014-03-30 09:57:51 PM
La la la la la. I can't hear you!
 
2014-03-30 09:58:02 PM

TheSwizz: [Note: writing Deaf with a capital D separates people who can't hear from people who consider deafness a major part of their cultural and political identity.]

For anyone who managed to make it passed this part(I stoppedreadingthere.jpg), was the rest of the article as blow-hard as I imagined it to be?


I'm wondering the same. What's this dude's Tumblr or Reddit ID.
 
2014-03-30 09:58:24 PM
You're bad for not wanting other people to have something you didn't have and you should feel bad too.
 
2014-03-30 09:58:39 PM
What TFA, all of the comments here, and as many comments as I could stomach on TFA's site neglect to mention is that the woman in the recent video was born deaf, but lost her vision when she was in her early 20s, making her deaf <i>and</i> blind. How's she supposed to enjoy the 'rich culture sign language engenders' if she can't farking see anything?? That's why this is so emotional.
 
2014-03-30 10:00:08 PM

runcible spork: What TFA, all of the comments here, and as many comments as I could stomach on TFA's site neglect to mention is that the woman in the recent video was born deaf, but lost her vision when she was in her early 20s, making her deaf <i>and</i> blind. How's she supposed to enjoy the 'rich culture sign language engenders' if she can't farking see anything?? That's why this is so emotional.


Anne Frank made it work.
 
2014-03-30 10:00:54 PM
The article author, as well the deaf Farker earlier in the thread, cannot possibly think it would be a wise choice to voluntarily poke holes in their eardrums.  Why not?  You would lose a very important sense.

Being born deaf, or losing it later in life, is not a choice and is not "empowering".  It is, in fact, a disability that makes it more difficult to navigate one's way through society.

Society has a responsibility to treat those with disabilities fairly and with
patience &  compassion, since they are real people with an extra burden we do not have.  Society does not have the responsibility to discourage those who can become complete through medical technology.  Those who could become complete through medical technology and choose not to pretty much lose their right to be treated with patience and compassion, just as those with drug additions who choose not to address them lose the patience of those around them.  It is not noble to voluntarily be deficient in one's ability to wholly function in society.
 
2014-03-30 10:02:36 PM
the only def video worth viewing
 
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