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(Christian News)   Alabama Governor Robert Bentley (R-ighteous) unveils plan to help Alabama's students overcome gang violence, drugs, alcohol, peer pressure, and negative media influence   (christiannews.net ) divider line
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2014-03-30 02:36:30 PM  
9 votes:
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.
2014-03-30 02:05:10 PM  
8 votes:
""Without prayer, these students will not be able to stand against the insurmountable odds they will face from childhood until they leave this world.""

Wait. I thought the conservatives believed anyone could have the success through just the hard work and low taxes but now they must also have prayer?
2014-03-30 11:43:02 AM  
8 votes:
You realize that in any other setting, encouraging mass self-hypnosis and advocating irrational behavior would be considered a criminal act. Religion gets you a free pass.
2014-03-30 11:07:55 AM  
8 votes:
The groups urged Christians across the state to get involved in one or more activities, such as becoming a "prayer zone partner" by praying each time one drives past a school, planning a prayer vigil at church or organizing a prayer walk around their local school.

I want a hot chick from Alabama to be my beej zone partner, where every time I hear about underperforming Alabama schools, I get a beej. We can have beej vigils at my place. We could organize a beej walk around the woods so we don't get arrested for public indecency or whatever.

Because, you know, me getting a beej does every bit as much to address the problem as people praying when they drive past a school. And it makes me feel even better than these prayer vigil people feel.
2014-03-30 05:07:54 PM  
6 votes:
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2014-03-30 01:53:19 PM  
5 votes:
um...doesn't this come dangerously close to imposing a state religion on the citizens of alabama?
2014-03-30 06:24:07 PM  
4 votes:
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2014-03-30 05:06:35 PM  
4 votes:
Not a "Day of Prayer FOR Students", but a "Day of Prayer OVER Students". That alone suggests his oppressive mindset.
2014-03-30 04:58:22 PM  
4 votes:
Nothing fails like prayer.
2014-03-31 02:07:55 AM  
3 votes:
Is this the Sharia Law they are so worried about? Sounds creepy.
2014-03-30 04:53:18 PM  
3 votes:

dahmers love zombie: The proclamation is the ninth issued by the governor, as the first Day of Prayer Over Students took place in 2006. The occasion was launched by the group First Priority of Alabama, an organization that coordinates the Christian clubs that meet weekly before school and various prayer activities, such as "See You at the Pole."

Um, what da fuq?


It's one of those pseudo-clubs where members meet regularly at the flag pole outside school to pray before class. It's also a convenient way for student and faculty busybodies to identify proper, upstanding Christian white folk to give perks to as well as those to ostracize. They've been pulling this shiat since at least when I was in high school 15 years ago. Why yes, this was in Georgia, how did you know?
2014-03-30 01:43:53 PM  
3 votes:
LAUGHTER OL what the idiot of this he is. Perhaps instead pass the basket around of these and provide further of funding to the students of the state of this and get rid of Nicholas Saban also while we are at this.

Or just have the fake invisible person do the helping.
2014-03-30 12:05:34 PM  
3 votes:

MrBallou: You realize that in any other setting, encouraging mass self-hypnosis and advocating irrational behavior would be considered a criminal act. Religion gets you a free pass.


Yeah, just wait until the first few auto accidents due to people praying instead of concentrating on the road around the schools.
2014-03-30 10:43:45 PM  
2 votes:

bigsteve3OOO: Statistically the best way to have a kid who grows up good is to have a mom and a dad who remain married.


It can certainly help, as do committed same sex parents, but it's a causality vs. causation issue. Plus, sometimes parents are abusive and there's nothing to gain in maintaining a dysfunctional marriage.

What does any of this have to do with the article?
2014-03-30 09:46:23 PM  
2 votes:

wellreadneck: Lee Jackson Beauregard: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Heretical Satanic modern translation!

[www.tillhecomes.org image 500x376]

So I stood up and told that teachin' lady
the only three letters I need to know
are K,J, and V.


This is apparently some kind of a thing.

CSB: I was on /b/ (imagine that) and there was an oft-seen anti-atheist thread.  I asked how US Christians knew that their specific sect was the one true sect, and anyway which bible version should they use?  Some person became very insistent that the KJV was THE ONLY version anyone should use - even Egyptian Coptics I guess.

I asked, how could a bible version written/translated in English in the 17th Century be more true to the historic word o'god than the original Aramaic texts from, y'know, biblical times, and got a pile of wharrgarbl in return.  So evidently there's some kind of KJV-uber-alles movement out there.
2014-03-30 08:58:38 PM  
2 votes:

spongeboob: Empty Matchbook: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

One of my personal favorite passages...and not just cause it got me out of going to synagogue as a kid...

How did a passage from the New Testament get you out of going to synagogue?


Reform Jewish. My parents actually encouraged me to think critically about scripture and what it meant. They were very big into the whole "thirst for knowledge" thing.
2014-03-30 08:58:19 PM  
2 votes:
The Beatles said "All You Need is Love", and yet the people who support this "day of prayer" would call that hippie druggie twaddle.  What a farked up country.
2014-03-30 06:15:34 PM  
2 votes:

AirForceVet: I would think the Governor funding public schools better in his budget would help more than calling for prayer zones.

Anyway, he's just playing to his base supporters rather than taking more effective management actions.


It seems pretty effective to me, as long as you define "effective" as "accomplishing the goals he wants to accomplish".

Liberal: Let's see what we come up with to solve this problem.
Conservative: Let's pray about it!

Average red-state voter: Our guy really shows some concern about this issue. Their guy just wants to make another power grab and spend taxpayer dollars willy-nilly on another stupid government program.
2014-03-30 05:43:04 PM  
2 votes:
And blue-state support for southern secession just got a bit stronger.
2014-03-30 05:14:58 PM  
2 votes:

spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.


You sound like you expect these idiots to have actually read the bible.
2014-03-30 05:04:59 PM  
2 votes:

spongeboob: 'Day of Prayer Over Students Across Alabama Prayer over students?  That sounds like you have the kids prostrate on the ground and you are standing over them, which is probably what these Christians feel should be happening.
Just think if you are going to do this you might want something that rolls of the tongue and has a little less unfortunate implications such as Day of Prayer for Alabama Students

And is just me but doesn't See you at the Pole seem to be something you would say to a stripper?


Yeah, the "over" part struck me a creepy, too.
2014-03-30 05:04:30 PM  
2 votes:
Just pandering to his constituency.


We call that attention whoring.
2014-03-30 04:49:47 PM  
2 votes:
You can not petition the lord with prayer.
2014-03-30 04:46:12 PM  
2 votes:
I'm going to pray for the opposite and skew the prayers. Tomorrow I'll be driving from Georgia to Mississippi so I can cover the. entire state in just a few hours.
2014-03-30 04:44:58 PM  
2 votes:

MrBallou: You realize that in any other setting, encouraging mass self-hypnosis and advocating irrational behavior would be considered a criminal act. Religion gets you a free pass.


I was a big fan of whoever said a Black Sabbath concert looked like "The Nuremberg Trials" with everyone pumping their hands into the air...but replace it with people swaying in unison at a Christian rock concert and suddenly it's a beautiful coming together of people.
2014-03-30 03:50:19 PM  
2 votes:

ox45tallboy: The groups urged Christians across the state to get involved in one or more activities, such as becoming a "prayer zone partner" by praying each time one drives past a school, planning a prayer vigil at church or organizing a prayer walk around their local school.

I want a hot chick from Alabama to be my beej zone partner, where every time I hear about underperforming Alabama schools, I get a beej. We can have beej vigils at my place. We could organize a beej walk around the woods so we don't get arrested for public indecency or whatever.

Because, you know, me getting a beej does every bit as much to address the problem as people praying when they drive past a school. And it makes me feel even better than these prayer vigil people feel.


Nothing every comes from prayer.  A beej however...
2014-03-30 03:25:32 PM  
2 votes:
meow said the dog is in the room everybody!

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2014-03-31 10:45:58 AM  
1 vote:

bigsteve3OOO: Statistically the best way to have a kid who grows up good is to have a mom and a dad who remain married.


Gee, I wonder how many of those Wall Street banisters who bilked America for trillions of dollars were raised in a broken home? How many successful and powerful presidents in our current generation were born to single mothers? How many heinous, disgusting, ineffectual, murderous presidents in our current generation were raised in a mother-father based familial home?

I'd say, maybe we should have more single parents.

/Of course we shouldn't. Those who are single parenting are usually doing it due to circumstances that suggest being a single parent is much better than staying married to an abusive spouse.
2014-03-31 01:45:59 AM  
1 vote:
Prayer has zero effect. It's a proven fact.
2014-03-30 11:51:50 PM  
1 vote:
He'll pray for them, but he will not expand Medicaid to help them if they get sick.
2014-03-30 10:44:50 PM  
1 vote:

ox45tallboy: praying each time one drives past a school

I'd rather they just focus on driving, especially in a school zone.
2014-03-30 07:43:12 PM  
1 vote:
Can they pray to Allah, too?
2014-03-30 07:05:53 PM  
1 vote:

spongeboob: Empty Matchbook: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

One of my personal favorite passages...and not just cause it got me out of going to synagogue as a kid...

How did a passage from the New Testament get you out of going to synagogue?



Historically speaking, the New Testament gets a lot of people out of going to synagogue.
2014-03-30 07:04:35 PM  
1 vote:
All these god-prayer guys look like they're being ass-f*cked by a cactus dildo.
2014-03-30 06:17:36 PM  
1 vote:
It is cheaper than actually doing something to improve the education system.
2014-03-30 06:00:21 PM  
1 vote:
Does everyone know why Freedom Of Belief was written into the Constitution. Because the Founding Fathers were hangin out, trying to hammer out a Document that would cover as many situations as they could perceive arising that might impinge on the common man's right to go about his business of pursuing happiness, or at least some kind of satisfaction in his or her endeavors.

Anyway , there was one of these folks who suggested STRONGLY that the Congregational Church be made the Religion of the Nation. His name was John Adams. A New Englander from Massachusetts, less than a century before the Salem Witch Trial took place

Some of the others present, more Enlightenment influenced thinkers like Franklin and Jefferson quietly put their heads together and decided that the Freedom of Belief needed to be  enshrined in the Constitution. It was Adam's strident belief that lead his peers to make sure that no one could force their belief on ANYONE.

Hey Alabama? What the Fuq? The rest of you fuq'd up States know who you are, not to mention all the Cultish Fuq'up finger pointing  religious EXTREMISTS. Get your shiat together.

America has an important mission on the Planet. We screwed up plenty with the Climate , the Balance of Things, The extinctions that are happening a faster and faster rate as years pass. WE need to play a very important roll in this battle to save the Planet. And instead these bozos are praying while driving by those reeducation camps we call public schools.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so goddamn tragic.
2014-03-30 05:40:29 PM  
1 vote:
I would think the Governor funding public schools better in his budget would help more than calling for prayer zones.

Anyway, he's just playing to his base supporters rather than taking more effective management actions.
2014-03-30 05:23:50 PM  
1 vote:

Empty Matchbook: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

One of my personal favorite passages...and not just cause it got me out of going to synagogue as a kid...


How did a passage from the New Testament get you out of going to synagogue?
2014-03-30 05:21:15 PM  
1 vote:

ox45tallboy: I want a hot chick from Alabama to be my beej zone partner


Which should work out perfectly due to her lack of teeth.
2014-03-30 05:20:39 PM  
1 vote:

inglixthemad: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

You don't expect them to read the book that goes with their religion, do you?

Matthew was a hippie RINO.


Well Matthew was a publican, a tax collector not the much cooler owner of a pub that I thought that meant when I first read the Bible, so I don't think he would even get the RINO tag pretty sure that makes him a straight up Socialist.
2014-03-30 05:03:15 PM  
1 vote:

spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.


You don't expect them to read the book that goes with their religion, do you?

Matthew was a hippie RINO.
2014-03-30 05:00:07 PM  
1 vote:

TheMysteriousStranger: Weaver95: um...doesn't this come dangerously close to imposing a state religion on the citizens of alabama?

No, it does not.    The governor can make a declaration asking you to pray or not pray to anything and it has utterly no force of law.   It is no different than anyone else making declarations that people should or should not do something.    The only difference declarations signed by the governor and a declaration signed bag boy at the Piggly Wiggly is that person who happens to be governor has more influence.  But legally, the bag boy's declarations have just as much authority as the governor's i.e. none whatsoever.

The Constitution's prohibition's against church/state entanglement apply to things that actually do have force of law: say the governor ordered you to pray, forced you to contribute to a church (either directly or by giving taxpayer money to the church), etc. etc. etc.  In other words, the governor can't use the powers given to him by the State Constitution or State laws to favor one religion or no religion.  But in all other respects, the governor is just a person like any other free to try to influence you just like anyone else is free to try to influence you.

(That being said, it would not surprise me if a Republican governor in Alabama would be in favor of violating the First Amendment. But merely using his own free speech right to try to convince you to pray is not a violation.)


And will be as effective as when Perry asked everyone to pray for rain.
2014-03-30 04:57:42 PM  
1 vote:

Weaver95: um...doesn't this come dangerously close to imposing a state religion on the citizens of alabama?


No, it does not.    The governor can make a declaration asking you to pray or not pray to anything and it has utterly no force of law.   It is no different than anyone else making declarations that people should or should not do something.    The only difference declarations signed by the governor and a declaration signed bag boy at the Piggly Wiggly is that person who happens to be governor has more influence.  But legally, the bag boy's declarations have just as much authority as the governor's i.e. none whatsoever.

The Constitution's prohibition's against church/state entanglement apply to things that actually do have force of law: say the governor ordered you to pray, forced you to contribute to a church (either directly or by giving taxpayer money to the church), etc. etc. etc.  In other words, the governor can't use the powers given to him by the State Constitution or State laws to favor one religion or no religion.  But in all other respects, the governor is just a person like any other free to try to influence you just like anyone else is free to try to influence you.

(That being said, it would not surprise me if a Republican governor in Alabama would be in favor of violating the First Amendment. But merely using his own free speech right to try to convince you to pray is not a violation.)
2014-03-30 04:55:39 PM  
1 vote:

spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.


You have quoted a commonly misunderstood verse. While many uneducated non-Christians mistakenly believe that the verse is an admonishment against praying in a highly public and visible fashion, it actually is not because hey look over there!
2014-03-30 04:50:25 PM  
1 vote:

spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.


Shut up, Hippie Jesus™. This here's 'Murica and we pray to Republican Jesus™.
2014-03-30 04:44:38 PM  
1 vote:
Prayer?  Yeah, that'll fix it for sure.
2014-03-30 04:38:15 PM  
1 vote:

MrBallou: You realize that in any other setting, encouraging mass self-hypnosis and advocating irrational behavior would be considered a criminal act. Religion gets you a free pass.


Actually this doesn't really get a pass, it's blatantly illegal.

People don't care because it's trivial and no one gives a shiat about one-off unfunded government non-holidays (it's not an actual holiday if government workers don't get the day off, that's what 'holiday' means), but that's not really the same thing.
2014-03-30 04:37:33 PM  
1 vote:

Weaver95: um...doesn't this come dangerously close to imposing a state religion on the citizens of alabama?


He never specified which God to pray to, so any deity is fair game.

"Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."
2014-03-30 04:08:01 PM  
1 vote:

spongeboob: And is just me but doesn't See you at the Pole seem to be something you would say to a stripper?


Or to Santa.
2014-03-30 03:57:14 PM  
1 vote:
'Day of Prayer Over Students Across Alabama Prayer over students?  That sounds like you have the kids prostrate on the ground and you are standing over them, which is probably what these Christians feel should be happening.
Just think if you are going to do this you might want something that rolls of the tongue and has a little less unfortunate implications such as Day of Prayer for Alabama Students

And is just me but doesn't See you at the Pole seem to be something you would say to a stripper?
2014-03-30 03:45:41 PM  
1 vote:
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
2014-03-30 02:08:44 PM  
1 vote:
The proclamation is the ninth issued by the governor, as the first Day of Prayer Over Students took place in 2006. The occasion was launched by the group First Priority of Alabama, an organization that coordinates the Christian clubs that meet weekly before school and various prayer activities, such as "See You at the Pole."

Um, what da fuq?

meow said the dog: LAUGHTER OL what the idiot of this he is. Perhaps instead pass the basket around of these and provide further of funding to the students of the state of this and get rid of Nicholas Saban also while we are at this.

Or just have the fake invisible person do the helping.


Meowie!  How have you been?  Have you been missing around here, or am I just not seeing you?  Anyway, my laughter is OL to see you again, sweetie.
 
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