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2014-03-30 05:43:04 PM  
And blue-state support for southern secession just got a bit stronger.
 
2014-03-30 05:54:38 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [img.fark.net image 631x760]


Science can change handicapped black kids into able-bodied white kids?
 
2014-03-30 05:58:35 PM  

Weaver95: um...doesn't this come dangerously close to imposing a state religion on the citizens of alabama?


Which is of course exactly what that asshat and so many others are looking for.
 
2014-03-30 06:00:06 PM  

wellreadneck: Lee Jackson Beauregard: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Heretical Satanic modern translation!

[www.tillhecomes.org image 500x376]

So I stood up and told that teachin' lady
the only three letters I need to know
are K,J, and V.


Wasn't King James gay?
 
2014-03-30 06:00:21 PM  
Does everyone know why Freedom Of Belief was written into the Constitution. Because the Founding Fathers were hangin out, trying to hammer out a Document that would cover as many situations as they could perceive arising that might impinge on the common man's right to go about his business of pursuing happiness, or at least some kind of satisfaction in his or her endeavors.

Anyway , there was one of these folks who suggested STRONGLY that the Congregational Church be made the Religion of the Nation. His name was John Adams. A New Englander from Massachusetts, less than a century before the Salem Witch Trial took place

Some of the others present, more Enlightenment influenced thinkers like Franklin and Jefferson quietly put their heads together and decided that the Freedom of Belief needed to be  enshrined in the Constitution. It was Adam's strident belief that lead his peers to make sure that no one could force their belief on ANYONE.

Hey Alabama? What the Fuq? The rest of you fuq'd up States know who you are, not to mention all the Cultish Fuq'up finger pointing  religious EXTREMISTS. Get your shiat together.

America has an important mission on the Planet. We screwed up plenty with the Climate , the Balance of Things, The extinctions that are happening a faster and faster rate as years pass. WE need to play a very important roll in this battle to save the Planet. And instead these bozos are praying while driving by those reeducation camps we call public schools.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so goddamn tragic.
 
2014-03-30 06:06:46 PM  

germ78: ox45tallboy: MrBallou: You realize that in any other setting, encouraging mass self-hypnosis and advocating irrational behavior would be considered a criminal act. Religion gets you a free pass.

Yeah, just wait until the first few auto accidents due to people praying instead of concentrating on the road around the schools.

Jeebus take the wheel! *thump* *thump*


He's only a co-pilot. He's not fully qualified.
 
2014-03-30 06:09:24 PM  

Jim_Callahan: MrBallou: You realize that in any other setting, encouraging mass self-hypnosis and advocating irrational behavior would be considered a criminal act. Religion gets you a free pass.

Actually this doesn't really get a pass, it's blatantly illegal.

People don't care because it's trivial and no one gives a shiat about one-off unfunded government non-holidays (it's not an actual holiday if government workers don't get the day off, that's what 'holiday' means), but that's not really the same thing.


National Day of Prayer

I think the founders might disagree with you on that.

There were several national days of prayer before the day was made an official annual day of observance in 1952. Prior to the nation's founding, the Second Continental Congress issued a proclamation recommending "a day of publick [sic] humiliation, fasting, and prayer" be observed by the "English Colonies" on Thursday, July 20, 1775, "and to bless our rightful sovereign, King George the Third..."[10] A proclamation to this end was sent to every town in the colonies. In his role as Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army, George Washington acknowledged a second day of "fasting, humiliation and prayer" proclaimed by the Continental Congress to be held on Thursday, May 6, 1779. To enable his soldiers to observe the day, Washington ordered a one-day cessation of recreation and "unnecessary labor".[11] In March 1780, Congress announced a day of "fasting, humiliation and prayer" to be held on Wednesday, April 26, 1780.[12]
 
2014-03-30 06:09:42 PM  

meow said the dog: ""Without prayer, these students will not be able to stand against the insurmountable odds they will face from childhood until they leave this world.""

Wait. I thought the conservatives believed anyone could have the success through just the hard work and low taxes but now they must also have prayer?


Bibles have boot straps.
 
2014-03-30 06:15:34 PM  

AirForceVet: I would think the Governor funding public schools better in his budget would help more than calling for prayer zones.

Anyway, he's just playing to his base supporters rather than taking more effective management actions.


It seems pretty effective to me, as long as you define "effective" as "accomplishing the goals he wants to accomplish".

Liberal: Let's see what we come up with to solve this problem.
Conservative: Let's pray about it!

Average red-state voter: Our guy really shows some concern about this issue. Their guy just wants to make another power grab and spend taxpayer dollars willy-nilly on another stupid government program.
 
2014-03-30 06:17:13 PM  

Empty Matchbook: I was a big fan of whoever said a Black Sabbath concert looked like "The Nuremberg Trials" with everyone pumping their hands into the air...but replace it with people swaying in unison at a Christian rock concert and suddenly it's a beautiful coming together of people.


There wasn't a lot of first-pumping at the Nuremberg trials; more a lot of shouting and claiming the court didn't have jurisdiction (it did).

Maybe they meant "Nuremberg Rallies"?
 
2014-03-30 06:17:36 PM  
It is cheaper than actually doing something to improve the education system.
 
2014-03-30 06:21:48 PM  

theknuckler_33: ommitay: meow said the dog is in the room everybody!

[img.fark.net image 200x252]

If anyone knows what that schtick is all about, can you help a brother out?


meow said the dog is just plain interesting because he/she makes no sense. You try and figure it out.
 
2014-03-30 06:24:07 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-30 06:35:29 PM  
Statistically the best way to have a kid who grows up good is to have a mom and a dad who remain married.
 
2014-03-30 06:35:44 PM  

DrD'isInfotainment: less than a century before the Salem Witch Trial took place


Damn that John Adams and his magical time machine!
 
2014-03-30 06:39:01 PM  
Are they changing the motto from "Flyover State" to "Prayover State?"
 
2014-03-30 06:44:40 PM  

EmmaLou: wellreadneck: Lee Jackson Beauregard: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Heretical Satanic modern translation!

[www.tillhecomes.org image 500x376]

So I stood up and told that teachin' lady
the only three letters I need to know
are K,J, and V.

Wasn't King James gay?


If they can turn a blind eye to his Catholicism why not his homosexuality?
 
2014-03-30 06:54:35 PM  

DeltaPunch: DrD'isInfotainment: less than a century before the Salem Witch Trial took place

Damn that John Adams and his magical time machine!


SOrry! the syntax was completely wrong
 
2014-03-30 06:57:10 PM  

Weaver95: um...doesn't this come dangerously close to imposing a state religion on the citizens of alabama?


I don't think so. It encourages religious behavior overall, but there's no inherent reason Hindus, Jews, Druids and Muslims in AL can't join in. It doesn't single out Christian prayer in general.
 
2014-03-30 07:04:35 PM  
All these god-prayer guys look like they're being ass-f*cked by a cactus dildo.
 
2014-03-30 07:05:53 PM  

spongeboob: Empty Matchbook: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

One of my personal favorite passages...and not just cause it got me out of going to synagogue as a kid...

How did a passage from the New Testament get you out of going to synagogue?



Historically speaking, the New Testament gets a lot of people out of going to synagogue.
 
2014-03-30 07:10:49 PM  
It's the least he could do.
 
2014-03-30 07:16:38 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Meowie!  How have you been?  Have you been missing around here, or am I just not seeing you?  Anyway, my laughter is OL to see you again, sweetie.


Meow is actually a pekingese sat upon a well appointed couch. Or, that is at least what TinyChat has taught me.
 
2014-03-30 07:23:54 PM  

bigsteve3OOO: Statistically the best way to have a kid who grows up good is to have a mom and a dad who remain married.


So... pray for them to ban divorce?
 
2014-03-30 07:39:08 PM  

fusillade762: bigsteve3OOO: Statistically the best way to have a kid who grows up good is to have a mom and a dad who remain married.

So... pray for them to ban divorce?


They grow up good but they ain't gots good grammar.
 
2014-03-30 07:43:12 PM  
Can they pray to Allah, too?
 
2014-03-30 08:21:02 PM  
goddammitsomuch, Gov. Bentley! Up to now you've managed to avoid pandering to the Xtian wackadoodle brigade. Now you've done gone and spoilt it.

I guess because ALFA won't let you raise taxes, you've got to invent SOMETHING to do.
 
2014-03-30 08:38:33 PM  

BlackArt: Nothing fails like prayer.


Said another way, intercession prayers fail like nothing.
 
2014-03-30 08:41:24 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: goddammitsomuch, Gov. Bentley! Up to now you've managed to avoid pandering to the Xtian wackadoodle brigade. Now you've done gone and spoilt it.

I guess because ALFA won't let you raise taxes, you've got to invent SOMETHING to do.


Well, according to the article he's been doing it since 2006...
 
2014-03-30 08:58:19 PM  
The Beatles said "All You Need is Love", and yet the people who support this "day of prayer" would call that hippie druggie twaddle.  What a farked up country.
 
2014-03-30 08:58:38 PM  

spongeboob: Empty Matchbook: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

One of my personal favorite passages...and not just cause it got me out of going to synagogue as a kid...

How did a passage from the New Testament get you out of going to synagogue?


Reform Jewish. My parents actually encouraged me to think critically about scripture and what it meant. They were very big into the whole "thirst for knowledge" thing.
 
2014-03-30 08:59:42 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Empty Matchbook: I was a big fan of whoever said a Black Sabbath concert looked like "The Nuremberg Trials" with everyone pumping their hands into the air...but replace it with people swaying in unison at a Christian rock concert and suddenly it's a beautiful coming together of people.

There wasn't a lot of first-pumping at the Nuremberg trials; more a lot of shouting and claiming the court didn't have jurisdiction (it did).

Maybe they meant "Nuremberg Rallies"?


That may very well be. It may have been conflated in my memory as I always assumed supporters/sympathizers were at the trials, but you're likely right.

/I've admitted I'm likely wrong on the internet!
//TORN TO SHREDS
///to SHREDS you say?
 
2014-03-30 09:46:23 PM  

wellreadneck: Lee Jackson Beauregard: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Heretical Satanic modern translation!

[www.tillhecomes.org image 500x376]

So I stood up and told that teachin' lady
the only three letters I need to know
are K,J, and V.


This is apparently some kind of a thing.

CSB: I was on /b/ (imagine that) and there was an oft-seen anti-atheist thread.  I asked how US Christians knew that their specific sect was the one true sect, and anyway which bible version should they use?  Some person became very insistent that the KJV was THE ONLY version anyone should use - even Egyptian Coptics I guess.

I asked, how could a bible version written/translated in English in the 17th Century be more true to the historic word o'god than the original Aramaic texts from, y'know, biblical times, and got a pile of wharrgarbl in return.  So evidently there's some kind of KJV-uber-alles movement out there.
 
2014-03-30 10:43:45 PM  

bigsteve3OOO: Statistically the best way to have a kid who grows up good is to have a mom and a dad who remain married.


It can certainly help, as do committed same sex parents, but it's a causality vs. causation issue. Plus, sometimes parents are abusive and there's nothing to gain in maintaining a dysfunctional marriage.

What does any of this have to do with the article?
 
2014-03-30 10:44:50 PM  

ox45tallboy: praying each time one drives past a school

I'd rather they just focus on driving, especially in a school zone.
 
2014-03-30 11:51:50 PM  
He'll pray for them, but he will not expand Medicaid to help them if they get sick.
 
2014-03-31 12:45:59 AM  
If it works, and they do become godly and honorable adults, how's he getting re-elected?
 
2014-03-31 01:45:59 AM  
Prayer has zero effect. It's a proven fact.
 
2014-03-31 01:51:39 AM  

heavymetal: He'll pray for them, but he will not expand Medicaid to help them if they get sick.


If they're good Christians and right with god, they won't get sick.
 
2014-03-31 02:07:55 AM  
Is this the Sharia Law they are so worried about? Sounds creepy.
 
2014-03-31 03:03:41 AM  

El Pachuco: wellreadneck: Lee Jackson Beauregard: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Heretical Satanic modern translation!

[www.tillhecomes.org image 500x376]

So I stood up and told that teachin' lady
the only three letters I need to know
are K,J, and V.

This is apparently some kind of a thing.

CSB: I was on /b/ (imagine that) and there was an oft-seen anti-atheist thread.  I asked how US Christians knew that their specific sect was the one true sect, and anyway which bible version should they use?  Some person became very insistent that the KJV was THE ONLY version anyone should use - even Egyptian Coptics I guess.

I asked, how could a bible version written/translated in English in the 17th Century be more true to the historic word o'god than the original Aramaic texts from, y'know, biblical times, and got a pile of wharrgarbl in return.  So evidently there's some kind of KJV-uber-alles movement out there.


Indeed.  I used to follow all sorts weird fundie fringe theories/beliefs, and that was one of them.  They believed that god had directed that translation, and that one only.  To them, even the earlier manuscripts were wrong, because god intentionally put errors in them, knowing that they would be later "mistranslated" into the correct version.  They follow the general conspiracy theorist/cult logic where any factual evidence that contradicts their beliefs is actually evidence of an even bigger conspiracy designed to trick (sane) people.
 
2014-03-31 03:46:54 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Does everyone know why Freedom Of Belief was written into the Constitution. Because the Founding Fathers were hangin out, trying to hammer out a Document that would cover as many situations as they could perceive arising that might impinge on the common man's right to go about his business of pursuing happiness, or at least some kind of satisfaction in his or her endeavors.

Anyway , there was one of these folks who suggested STRONGLY that the Congregational Church be made the Religion of the Nation. His name was John Adams. A New Englander from Massachusetts, less than a century before the Salem Witch Trial took place

Some of the others present, more Enlightenment influenced thinkers like Franklin and Jefferson quietly put their heads together and decided that the Freedom of Belief needed to be  enshrined in the Constitution. It was Adam's strident belief that lead his peers to make sure that no one could force their belief on ANYONE.

Hey Alabama? What the Fuq? The rest of you fuq'd up States know who you are, not to mention all the Cultish Fuq'up finger pointing  religious EXTREMISTS. Get your shiat together.

America has an important mission on the Planet. We screwed up plenty with the Climate , the Balance of Things, The extinctions that are happening a faster and faster rate as years pass. WE need to play a very important roll in this battle to save the Planet. And instead these bozos are praying while driving by those reeducation camps we call public schools.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so goddamn tragic.


The Salem Witch Trials took place in the 1600's.
 
2014-03-31 03:51:06 AM  

El Pachuco: wellreadneck: Lee Jackson Beauregard: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Heretical Satanic modern translation!

[www.tillhecomes.org image 500x376]

So I stood up and told that teachin' lady
the only three letters I need to know
are K,J, and V.

This is apparently some kind of a thing.

CSB: I was on /b/ (imagine that) and there was an oft-seen anti-atheist thread.  I asked how US Christians knew that their specific sect was the one true sect, and anyway which bible version should they use?  Some person became very insistent that the KJV was THE ONLY version anyone should use - even Egyptian Coptics I guess.

I asked, how could a bible version written/translated in English in the 17th Century be more true to the historic word o'god than the original Aramaic texts from, y'know, biblical times, and got a pile of wharrgarbl in return.  So evidently there's some kind of KJV-uber-alles movement out there.


Even today there are many non-English speaking Protestants both in the US and, shockingly, around the world. Which translation are these God-forsaken souls to use?
 
2014-03-31 04:13:45 AM  

highwayrun: El Pachuco: wellreadneck: Lee Jackson Beauregard: spongeboob: "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Heretical Satanic modern translation!

[www.tillhecomes.org image 500x376]

So I stood up and told that teachin' lady
the only three letters I need to know
are K,J, and V.

This is apparently some kind of a thing.

CSB: I was on /b/ (imagine that) and there was an oft-seen anti-atheist thread.  I asked how US Christians knew that their specific sect was the one true sect, and anyway which bible version should they use?  Some person became very insistent that the KJV was THE ONLY version anyone should use - even Egyptian Coptics I guess.

I asked, how could a bible version written/translated in English in the 17th Century be more true to the historic word o'god than the original Aramaic texts from, y'know, biblical times, and got a pile of wharrgarbl in return.  So evidently there's some kind of KJV-uber-alles movement out there.

Even today there are many non-English speaking Protestants both in the US and, shockingly, around the world. Which translation are these God-forsaken souls to use?


They need to learn to speak 'Murrican, otherwise Jesus won't love them.  Obviously.
 
2014-03-31 04:26:34 AM  

Great_Milenko: The Beatles said "All You Need is Love", and yet the people who support this "day of prayer" would call that hippie druggie twaddle.  What a farked up country.


Yeah the squares that run things don't listen to the beatles. Wait, what?
 
2014-03-31 08:00:00 AM  

highwayrun: DrD'isInfotainment: Does everyone know why Freedom Of Belief was written into the Constitution. Because the Founding Fathers were hangin out, trying to hammer out a Document that would cover as many situations as they could perceive arising that might impinge on the common man's right to go about his business of pursuing happiness, or at least some kind of satisfaction in his or her endeavors.

Anyway , there was one of these folks who suggested STRONGLY that the Congregational Church be made the Religion of the Nation. His name was John Adams. A New Englander from Massachusetts, less than a century before the Salem Witch Trial took place

Some of the others present, more Enlightenment influenced thinkers like Franklin and Jefferson quietly put their heads together and decided that the Freedom of Belief needed to be  enshrined in the Constitution. It was Adam's strident belief that lead his peers to make sure that no one could force their belief on ANYONE.

Hey Alabama? What the Fuq? The rest of you fuq'd up States know who you are, not to mention all the Cultish Fuq'up finger pointing  religious EXTREMISTS. Get your shiat together.

America has an important mission on the Planet. We screwed up plenty with the Climate , the Balance of Things, The extinctions that are happening a faster and faster rate as years pass. WE need to play a very important roll in this battle to save the Planet. And instead these bozos are praying while driving by those reeducation camps we call public schools.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so goddamn tragic.

The Salem Witch Trials took place in the 1600's.


I think he meant less than a century *after* the Salem witch trials.

/Fark:  The Congregational Church is precisely the one that used to be the Puritans
//TotalFark:  They're one of the more liberal churches these days
 
2014-03-31 09:38:02 AM  

germ78: ox45tallboy: MrBallou: You realize that in any other setting, encouraging mass self-hypnosis and advocating irrational behavior would be considered a criminal act. Religion gets you a free pass.

Yeah, just wait until the first few auto accidents due to people praying instead of concentrating on the road around the schools.

Jeebus take the wheel! *thump* *thump*


"I gave Jesus the wheel.  He saw the accident about to happen and he said to me "give me the wheel, I've got this."  So I gave him the wheel and BAM he drove right into them. Jesus can't drive worth shiat!"
 
2014-03-31 10:02:29 AM  
i75.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-31 10:27:05 AM  
Prayer: How to accomplish nothing and still feel like you're helping.

One of the most disturbing experiences for me was growing up and realizing how child-like so many adults still are.
 
2014-03-31 10:45:58 AM  

bigsteve3OOO: Statistically the best way to have a kid who grows up good is to have a mom and a dad who remain married.


Gee, I wonder how many of those Wall Street banisters who bilked America for trillions of dollars were raised in a broken home? How many successful and powerful presidents in our current generation were born to single mothers? How many heinous, disgusting, ineffectual, murderous presidents in our current generation were raised in a mother-father based familial home?

I'd say, maybe we should have more single parents.

/Of course we shouldn't. Those who are single parenting are usually doing it due to circumstances that suggest being a single parent is much better than staying married to an abusive spouse.
 
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