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2014-03-30 12:03:28 PM  
Looking for some suckers to invest there so the assets can be seized?
 
2014-03-30 12:05:47 PM  
Why do we still have this stupid embargo?
 
2014-03-30 12:08:29 PM  

Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?


Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?
 
2014-03-30 12:11:25 PM  

Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?


Seriously, the excuses are getting really flimsy.  Cuba hasn't been a threat in over 50 years.  And besides, trading with them will do way more to "Americanize" them than embargo-ing them.
 
2014-03-30 12:14:05 PM  

Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?


Stupid people vote.
 
2014-03-30 12:21:04 PM  
Actually I'm going back to the Caymans shortly, I've been planning on this (knew about it years ago, like before the rest of you found out about their internet fiberoptic).  So if you are interested and want to chat, t­o­m­birmi­ngh­am­[nospam-﹫-backwards]l­ia­mt­o­h*com
 
2014-03-30 12:25:17 PM  

Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?


Las Vegas.  If ever opened up to Cuba, Las Vegas would cease to exist (except as a get-a-way for those $20 a game high rollers).

No way in hell are gambling backed special interest groups involved in this decision to keep Cuba off limits.  Nor is vacationland Florida...
 
2014-03-30 12:27:37 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: And besides, trading with them will do way more to "Americanize" them than embargo-ing them.


That's a very good point. I've heard it said that blue jeans and Beatles tapes did as much to end the Cold War as missiles, maybe more. Now all we have to do is convince the people who still live, eat, sleep, and breathe "Red Scare" -- the people who think you can catch Communism the same way children feel about cooties.
 
2014-03-30 12:30:38 PM  
Could you imagine the havoc wreaked upon Vegas should Cuba return to its gambling heyday, plus add a Paramount franchise?
 
2014-03-30 12:40:55 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Seriously, the excuses are getting really flimsy.  Cuba hasn't been a threat in over 50 years.  And besides, trading with them will do way more to "Americanize" them than embargo-ing them.


What's the new generation think? I know all the old people are like this, but what about the yoots?
 
2014-03-30 12:41:34 PM  

Rhaab: HMS_Blinkin: And besides, trading with them will do way more to "Americanize" them than embargo-ing them.

That's a very good point. I've heard it said that blue jeans and Beatles tapes did as much to end the Cold War as missiles, maybe more. Now all we have to do is convince the people who still live, eat, sleep, and breathe "Red Scare" -- the people who think you can catch Communism the same way children feel about cooties.


I don't think it's the "red scare" that really scares anyone these days.  It's more likely groups have everything to lose by opening up the gates.  What happens to the "foreigners" from Cuba who want to come to America?  Currently they get a free pass for political asylum.  Would it be at easy as physically touching America to get citizenship should free trade be established?  Probably better to maintain the status quo on that one.  I could be wrong but I imagine that there are Cubans on this side of the pond that prefer we not open the gates simply to retain the current status.

There really are no excuses not to open the gates at this point- consumerism would wipe out communism with the landing of the first McDonald's franchise.

Sorry Vegas and Florida- the East Coast is looking for a (inexpensive) new thrill and you guys are not it.
 
2014-03-30 12:43:34 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: HMS_Blinkin: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Seriously, the excuses are getting really flimsy.  Cuba hasn't been a threat in over 50 years.  And besides, trading with them will do way more to "Americanize" them than embargo-ing them.

What's the new generation think? I know all the old people are like this, but what about the yoots?


I'm 50- I've believed they should have dumped the embargo back in the 80's
 
2014-03-30 12:44:05 PM  

clowncar on fire: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Las Vegas.  If ever opened up to Cuba, Las Vegas would cease to exist (except as a get-a-way for those $20 a game high rollers).

No way in hell are gambling backed special interest groups involved in this decision to keep Cuba off limits.  Nor is vacationland Florida...


Um why would I fly out of the country to gamble when I can just cross state lines. Actually since Indian gaming is plentiful in my state Vegas should have vanished already.
 
2014-03-30 12:45:21 PM  
If Las Vegas isn't strong enough to survive removing the embargo against Cuba, then it deserves to fail. That's the Free Market in action.

/Mostly joking.
 
2014-03-30 12:49:22 PM  
Fools. Liberals have taught me that high tax rates are never a deterrent for business or wealthy people.
 
2014-03-30 12:49:41 PM  
This is a country that understands business. We will be bigger than US Steel.
 
2014-03-30 12:52:57 PM  

BMFPitt: Looking for some suckers to invest there so the assets can be seized?


Oh, I do hope that happens.
 
2014-03-30 12:55:56 PM  

Fart_Machine: clowncar on fire: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Las Vegas.  If ever opened up to Cuba, Las Vegas would cease to exist (except as a get-a-way for those $20 a game high rollers).

No way in hell are gambling backed special interest groups involved in this decision to keep Cuba off limits.  Nor is vacationland Florida...

Um why would I fly out of the country to gamble when I can just cross state lines. Actually since Indian gaming is plentiful in my state Vegas should have vanished already.


I Imagine because of the tropical climate and mystique of Cuba rather than the Vegas Disneyesque vibe?  Flying to Cuba may be more bang for the buck?  Especially if you lived on the east coast.  I would visit Cuba first opportunity if they chose to restore and maintain that art décor they were famous for before there blockade.  Yeah I know- old school but still has that modern vibe about it.
 
2014-03-30 12:57:49 PM  

clowncar on fire: PC LOAD LETTER: HMS_Blinkin: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Seriously, the excuses are getting really flimsy.  Cuba hasn't been a threat in over 50 years.  And besides, trading with them will do way more to "Americanize" them than embargo-ing them.

What's the new generation think? I know all the old people are like this, but what about the yoots?

I'm 50- I've believed they should have dumped the embargo back in the 80's


But what's the changing dynamics of the Cuban population in FL? I am guessing after Castro dies, things will change, but do Cubans in the US hate Raul as much as Fidel?
 
2014-03-30 01:06:08 PM  
Tea Derpers will argue that the tax rate was 200%, so no real incentive, and Tony Montana will confirm this.

/stoopid embargo
 
2014-03-30 01:09:15 PM  

clowncar on fire: Fart_Machine: clowncar on fire: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Las Vegas.  If ever opened up to Cuba, Las Vegas would cease to exist (except as a get-a-way for those $20 a game high rollers).

No way in hell are gambling backed special interest groups involved in this decision to keep Cuba off limits.  Nor is vacationland Florida...

Um why would I fly out of the country to gamble when I can just cross state lines. Actually since Indian gaming is plentiful in my state Vegas should have vanished already.

I Imagine because of the tropical climate and mystique of Cuba rather than the Vegas Disneyesque vibe?  Flying to Cuba may be more bang for the buck?  Especially if you lived on the east coast.  I would visit Cuba first opportunity if they chose to restore and maintain that art décor they were famous for before there blockade.  Yeah I know- old school but still has that modern vibe about it.


I can see it hurting Atlantic City more than Vegas. My guess is if they finally removed the embargo the big casino chains would eventually move in and make it just as kitschy.
 
2014-03-30 01:10:31 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: clowncar on fire: PC LOAD LETTER: HMS_Blinkin: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Seriously, the excuses are getting really flimsy.  Cuba hasn't been a threat in over 50 years.  And besides, trading with them will do way more to "Americanize" them than embargo-ing them.

What's the new generation think? I know all the old people are like this, but what about the yoots?

I'm 50- I've believed they should have dumped the embargo back in the 80's

But what's the changing dynamics of the Cuban population in FL? I am guessing after Castro dies, things will change, but do Cubans in the US hate Raul as much as Fidel?


Raul will be a changed man should evil capitalism take root in his country.
 
2014-03-30 01:15:40 PM  

Fart_Machine: clowncar on fire: Fart_Machine: clowncar on fire: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Las Vegas.  If ever opened up to Cuba, Las Vegas would cease to exist (except as a get-a-way for those $20 a game high rollers).

No way in hell are gambling backed special interest groups involved in this decision to keep Cuba off limits.  Nor is vacationland Florida...

Um why would I fly out of the country to gamble when I can just cross state lines. Actually since Indian gaming is plentiful in my state Vegas should have vanished already.

I Imagine because of the tropical climate and mystique of Cuba rather than the Vegas Disneyesque vibe?  Flying to Cuba may be more bang for the buck?  Especially if you lived on the east coast.  I would visit Cuba first opportunity if they chose to restore and maintain that art décor they were famous for before there blockade.  Yeah I know- old school but still has that modern vibe about it.

I can see it hurting Atlantic City more than Vegas. My guess is if they finally removed the embargo the big casino chains would eventually move in and make it just as kitschy.


Kitschy like Cancun.  Still more desirable than a visit to Florida.
 
2014-03-30 01:16:47 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Seriously, the excuses are getting really flimsy.  Cuba hasn't been a threat in over 50 years.  And besides, trading with them will do way more to "Americanize" them than embargo-ing them.


See: China
 
2014-03-30 01:18:46 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: But what's the changing dynamics of the Cuban population in FL? I am guessing after Castro dies, things will change, but do Cubans in the US hate Raul as much as Fidel?


I don't have any idea how the Cubans living in the USA feel, but I just don't get why it matters so much.  It seems like the embargo exists to keep a few thousand old people in Florida happy, even though ending it would benefit millions of Americans.

Although, I do realize that an awful lot of our policies stem from trying to keep old people in Florida happy....
 
2014-03-30 01:22:39 PM  

inglixthemad: HMS_Blinkin: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Seriously, the excuses are getting really flimsy.  Cuba hasn't been a threat in over 50 years.  And besides, trading with them will do way more to "Americanize" them than embargo-ing them.

See: China


I don't understand why more politicians haven't seen that trend.  When we have a problem with another country, the response is often "no more trade with America for you!"  This just seems to make them madder.  If we really wanted them to get in line we should just start sending them free pop music albums and movies and TV shows.  Give 'em a big old free dose of American capitalism, and watch them fall into line.

/I'm only half joking
//but it'd be pretty funny to see Obama threaten Iran with a free Bieber concert tour
 
2014-03-30 01:26:56 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: PC LOAD LETTER: But what's the changing dynamics of the Cuban population in FL? I am guessing after Castro dies, things will change, but do Cubans in the US hate Raul as much as Fidel?

I don't have any idea how the Cubans living in the USA feel, but I just don't get why it matters so much.  It seems like the embargo exists to keep a few thousand old people in Florida happy, even though ending it would benefit millions of Americans.

Although, I do realize that an awful lot of our policies stem from trying to keep old people in Florida happy....


Old people who supported the old dictator who was just as bad if not worse than his replacement.
 
2014-03-30 01:27:06 PM  

TV's Vinnie: BMFPitt: Looking for some suckers to invest there so the assets can be seized?

Oh, I do hope that happens.


Why?
 
2014-03-30 01:33:06 PM  

clowncar on fire: Fart_Machine: clowncar on fire: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Las Vegas.  If ever opened up to Cuba, Las Vegas would cease to exist (except as a get-a-way for those $20 a game high rollers).

No way in hell are gambling backed special interest groups involved in this decision to keep Cuba off limits.  Nor is vacationland Florida...

Um why would I fly out of the country to gamble when I can just cross state lines. Actually since Indian gaming is plentiful in my state Vegas should have vanished already.

I Imagine because of the tropical climate and mystique of Cuba rather than the Vegas Disneyesque vibe?  Flying to Cuba may be more bang for the buck?  Especially if you lived on the east coast.  I would visit Cuba first opportunity if they chose to restore and maintain that art décor they were famous for before there blockade.  Yeah I know- old school but still has that modern vibe about it.


I'm with you.  Visiting Cuba has been on,my bucket list since I was a child.
 
2014-03-30 01:43:11 PM  

45cal: This is a country that understands business. We will be bigger than US Steel.


I know it was you Fredo.
 
2014-03-30 01:45:39 PM  

Frank N Stein: TV's Vinnie: BMFPitt: Looking for some suckers to invest there so the assets can be seized?

Oh, I do hope that happens.

Why?


Because greedy rich people deserve to get hosed.

Case in point: every billionaire who donated to the GOP in 2012
 
2014-03-30 01:46:48 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Frank N Stein: TV's Vinnie: BMFPitt: Looking for some suckers to invest there so the assets can be seized?

Oh, I do hope that happens.

Why?

Because greedy rich people deserve to get hosed.

Case in point: every billionaire who donated to the GOP in 2012


Glad you're enjoying your freshmen year at State U
 
2014-03-30 01:53:40 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Fools. Liberals have taught me that high tax rates are never a deterrent for business or wealthy people.



I don't think any liberal honestly believes that tax rates aren't *a* factor when businesses make decisions.

What you will find is that liberals don't believe that tax rates are *the* important factor that conservatives' platitudes claim they are. Speaking for myself, as someone who's been hired on when companies had lots of orders to fill and who's been let go when business dried up, I don't believe that the top marginal income tax rate has a damn thing to do with "job creation" as is often claimed.
 
2014-03-30 02:26:59 PM  
My wife and I try to head to Cuba every few years on vacation.  The beaches are amazing, the people very friendly, there is live music everywhere.  The food and accommodations aren't as good as the Mayan Riviera because of the embargo, the roads aren't great, the tourist areas are overrun by les Quebecois who are on average as annoying as Ugly American tourists.

The classic cars driving around Havana are amazing.

In Mexico everyone is trying to sell you something all the time -- Cubans are much more relaxed and laid back about the whole "take as much money as possible from the tourists" thing.  Cuban rum is awesome, plentiful and cheap.

We've gone touring through the countryside ... every schoolkid, even in poor small towns, wear smart uniforms.

Because there isn't the massive income inequality and poverty that Mexico has, we feel safer in Cuba than in Mexico.  Ordinary Cubans are jealous about travel ...  they see and hear about the rest of the world, lots of tourists come to their country, but they can't travel abroad.  This is probably their biggest complaint about their government.

It's not a Communist country, and it probably was never more than one in name.  It's a socialist country who treats its citizens better than pretty much any other Third World/developing nation.  In a generation I hope it's as free and rich as Mexico, and in two generations I hope Cubans are as free and as rich as other North Americans.
 
2014-03-30 03:00:20 PM  

Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?


We're the only ones everyone else in the world can buy/sell/travel with/to Cuba yet it's still a farked up dictatorship.
 
2014-03-30 03:09:30 PM  
when i first went there in 2002 a refrigerator (bought one for the family I was staying with) was 600$.   A fridge that's 100$ in Miami!   After freight, cherry picking and the old 50% tax rate (no exemptions) you couldn't make any money.   The only people with cash had it sent to them by relatives in Miami, worked in the black market or were catering to tourists (if you know what I mean).

However there is going to be a constitutional reformation to go to a hybrid system like Vietnam in the next 3 years.  There's alot of opportunity there and I am going to exploit it.
 
2014-03-30 03:14:01 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: But what's the changing dynamics of the Cuban population in FL? I am guessing after Castro dies, things will change, but do Cubans in the US hate Raul as much as Fidel?


I think at this point, the big sticking point would be the Cuban government returning seized assets to those who fled.  Of course, based on the stories I've heard from Cuban-Americans, those who fled owned pretty much everything, so they really want the entire island signed over to their ownership.
 
2014-03-30 03:27:14 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: inglixthemad: HMS_Blinkin: Rhaab: Fart_Machine: Why do we still have this stupid embargo?

Because a lot of cranky old brown people in Miami would be very angry if we didn't? And furthermore, and such like?

Seriously, the excuses are getting really flimsy.  Cuba hasn't been a threat in over 50 years.  And besides, trading with them will do way more to "Americanize" them than embargo-ing them.

See: China

I don't understand why more politicians haven't seen that trend.  When we have a problem with another country, the response is often "no more trade with America for you!"  This just seems to make them madder.  If we really wanted them to get in line we should just start sending them free pop music albums and movies and TV shows.  Give 'em a big old free dose of American capitalism, and watch them fall into line.

/I'm only half joking
//but it'd be pretty funny to see Obama threaten Iran with a free Bieber concert tour


Radio Free Europe?

You appeal to the youth of that country- not the politicians.  Iran was quite westernized in the mid-70's- took a handful of fanatics to convince them this was a bad thing.

Bomb Cuba with capitalism- communism would die and no one would miss it- especially when the taxes started rolling in.
 
2014-03-30 03:31:42 PM  

bromah: when i first went there in 2002 a refrigerator (bought one for the family I was staying with) was 600$.   A fridge that's 100$ in Miami!   After freight, cherry picking and the old 50% tax rate (no exemptions) you couldn't make any money.   The only people with cash had it sent to them by relatives in Miami, worked in the black market or were catering to tourists (if you know what I mean).

However there is going to be a constitutional reformation to go to a hybrid system like Vietnam in the next 3 years.  There's alot of opportunity there and I am going to exploit it.


I bought a refrigerator at Lowes about the same time for about 1200.  Where do you find a refrigerator- other than the Salvation Army or Craig's list-- for $100?
 
2014-03-30 03:32:39 PM  

clowncar on fire: bromah: when i first went there in 2002 a refrigerator (bought one for the family I was staying with) was 600$.   A fridge that's 100$ in Miami!   After freight, cherry picking and the old 50% tax rate (no exemptions) you couldn't make any money.   The only people with cash had it sent to them by relatives in Miami, worked in the black market or were catering to tourists (if you know what I mean).

However there is going to be a constitutional reformation to go to a hybrid system like Vietnam in the next 3 years.  There's alot of opportunity there and I am going to exploit it.

I bought a refrigerator at Lowes about the same time for about 1200.  Where do you find a refrigerator- other than the Salvation Army or Craig's list-- for $100?


Correction- in 2005 but still...
 
2014-03-30 09:08:29 PM  
Don't worry, Comrades.  The money will trickle down.
 
2014-03-31 02:03:51 AM  

clowncar on fire: bromah: when i first went there in 2002 a refrigerator (bought one for the family I was staying with) was 600$.   A fridge that's 100$ in Miami!   After freight, cherry picking and the old 50% tax rate (no exemptions) you couldn't make any money.   The only people with cash had it sent to them by relatives in Miami, worked in the black market or were catering to tourists (if you know what I mean).

However there is going to be a constitutional reformation to go to a hybrid system like Vietnam in the next 3 years.  There's alot of opportunity there and I am going to exploit it.

I bought a refrigerator at Lowes about the same time for about 1200.  Where do you find a refrigerator- other than the Salvation Army or Craig's list-- for $100?


refurbed 10cubic foot refrigerator.
 
2014-03-31 08:12:27 AM  
Ahhh, reminiscent of the awesome days when Cuba was ruled by Fulgencio Batista. Who benefited from investing there? Job creators such as these fictitious gents:

img3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
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