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2014-03-30 08:33:14 AM
$250,00o is only the poverty line when it comes to computing taxes. Welfare or food stamps on the other hand, if you don't have a distended belly, you're just a lazy moocher.
 
2014-03-30 08:56:17 AM
Dude's not going to able to maintain his 7 or 8 handicap as POTUS, so he ain't running.
 
2014-03-30 08:57:43 AM
Do not want.
 
2014-03-30 09:03:17 AM
FTFA:
"But Bush, 61, would have serious vulnerabilities as a candidate. Out of public office for seven years, he has struggled in some appearances and has had difficulty navigating the Republican Party's fault lines on immigration and other issues.  "

And we're done here.

Can't win the primary without going hard right.
Can't win the general election without going too far left for the right wing.

Lather, rinse, repeat for every GOP candidate.
 
2014-03-30 09:03:44 AM
A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll found that almost half of all Americans surveyed say they "definitely would not" vote for Jeb Bush for president.

And yet Republicans are eager to run him anyways. This self-destructive bender of theirs is getting disturbing.
 
2014-03-30 09:09:05 AM
On Thursday night, Bush was feted here at a VIP dinner hosted by Sheldon Adelson inside the billionaire casino magnate's airplane hangar. When one donor told Bush, "I hope you run for president in 2016," the crowd of about 60 guests burst into applause, said a donor in attendance.

Why are the Moneycons flocking to the Bush banner again?

...alarmed by the steady rise of Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.)

Ah. Fear of the Theocons latest Great White Hope.

Not gonna happen. The argument they are already trumpeting is the "no moar dynasties" one in the face of a likely Hillary candidacy in 2016.

Getting another Bush to run in the face of that would be foolish.

That noted this *is* the party that picked Mitt "Romneycare" Romney to be the posterboy for eliminating the ACA in 2012 so i ultimately wouldn't put it past them.
 
2014-03-30 09:10:40 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll found that almost half of all Americans surveyed say they "definitely would not" vote for Jeb Bush for president.

And yet Republicans are eager to run him anyways. This self-destructive bender of theirs is getting disturbing.


it's spelled H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S
 
2014-03-30 09:30:05 AM

EvilEgg: $250,00o is only the poverty line when it comes to computing taxes. Welfare or food stamps on the other hand, if you don't have a distended belly, you're just a lazy moocher.


Ever consider moving to a third world nation? You seem to truly have an issue with how Western civilization doesn't want to completely cut loose those its society has already failed.
 
2014-03-30 09:30:19 AM
Because everyone knows it's the meatpuppet spouting the nonsense that's working against them

/certainly not the nonsense itself
 
2014-03-30 09:36:12 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll found that almost half of all Americans surveyed say they "definitely would not" vote for Jeb Bush for president.

And yet Republicans are eager to run him anyways. This self-destructive bender of theirs is getting disturbing.


Well, take a look at the other potential candidates. He's the world's tallest midget.
 
2014-03-30 09:41:27 AM

quatchi: On Thursday night, Bush was feted here at a VIP dinner hosted by Sheldon Adelson inside the billionaire casino magnate's airplane hangar. When one donor told Bush, "I hope you run for president in 2016," the crowd of about 60 guests burst into applause, said a donor in attendance.

Why are the Moneycons flocking to the Bush banner again?

...alarmed by the steady rise of Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.)

Ah. Fear of the Theocons latest Great White Hope.

Not gonna happen. The argument they are already trumpeting is the "no moar dynasties" one in the face of a likely Hillary candidacy in 2016.

Getting another Bush to run in the face of that would be foolish.

That noted this *is* the party that picked Mitt "Romneycare" Romney to be the posterboy for eliminating the ACA in 2012 so i ultimately wouldn't put it past them.


Don't forget 2008: 'Obama isn't experienced enough, and our Veep candidate is the former Mayor of a meth infested wide spot in the road with less than 2 years experience as Governor of Americas least populous state'
 
2014-03-30 09:43:07 AM

Crotchrocket Slim: EvilEgg: $250,00o is only the poverty line when it comes to computing taxes. Welfare or food stamps on the other hand, if you don't have a distended belly, you're just a lazy moocher.

Ever consider moving to a third world nation? You seem to truly have an issue with how Western civilization doesn't want to completely cut loose those its society has already failed.


Whoooooooooooosh.

Have another cup of coffee.
 
2014-03-30 09:44:04 AM

EvilEgg: $250,00o is only the poverty line when it comes to computing taxes. Welfare or food stamps on the other hand, if you don't have a distended belly, you're just a lazy moocher.


THIS
 
2014-03-30 09:46:04 AM
Wait until the people ponder on how this guy threw the 2000 election in favor of his sociopath brother,who them treated America like a two bit whore the morning after, and Jeb is going to get historically low marks in a national election. his mother was totally right when she said "America has had enough of the Bushes
 
2014-03-30 09:50:44 AM
Jeb missed his big chance. Those neocon assholes Cheney and Rumsfeld probably thought that betting on the more pliable Bush brother would help advance their bullshiat. Treasonous bullshiat that they've been getting away with since the Nixon days. Fark the neocons and fark the Bushs. On the other hand fark the Clintons too. Can't we get anyone with some damn honor.
 
2014-03-30 09:54:33 AM
I only make $185K/year as a single person. Life is very difficult. I don't know how I make ends meet. I need lower taxes.
/me me me
//me me me me me me
 
2014-03-30 10:01:24 AM

Crotchrocket Slim: EvilEgg: $250,00o is only the poverty line when it comes to computing taxes. Welfare or food stamps on the other hand, if you don't have a distended belly, you're just a lazy moocher.

Ever consider moving to a third world nation? You seem to truly have an issue with how Western civilization doesn't want to completely cut loose those its society has already failed.


i580.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-30 10:03:16 AM
Jeb Bush was ahead of his time. The kind of crap his protegees Katherine Harris and Sandra Mortham pulled in manipulating Florida's presidential election in 2001 has become SOP for today's GOP:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/us/new-gop-bid-to-limit-voting-in- sw ing-states.html
 
2014-03-30 10:05:25 AM
"He's the most desired candidate out there," said another bundler, Brian Ballard, who sat on the national finance committees for Romney in 2012 and John McCain in 2008. "Everybody that I know is excited about it."

emanuellevy.com
 
2014-03-30 10:07:44 AM
So we'll have Bush vs. Clinton?

Jesus Christ.  :  (
 
2014-03-30 10:07:56 AM

DubyaHater: I only make $185K/year as a single person. Life is very difficult. I don't know how I make ends meet. I need lower taxes.
/me me me
//me me me me me me


I remember a lady calling one of our local right wing nutjob radio hosts pretty much in tears saying how tough life was living up in Issaquah and scraping by on 200k a year. And she was dead serious.
 
2014-03-30 10:09:14 AM
Caveat: $50k salary for teachers is luxury the likes of which are rarely seen outside the halls of Congress.
 
2014-03-30 10:11:28 AM
MFAWG:  Don't forget 2008: 'Obama isn't experienced enough, and our Veep candidate is the former Mayor of a meth infested wide spot in the road with less than 2 years experience as Governor of Americas least populous state'

Haha yes.  McCain threw away his one legitimate criticism of Obama in one fell swoop.  I remember they were playing up her 6 years (or whatever it was)  executive experience, counting her years as mayor of Wasilla.
 
2014-03-30 10:15:23 AM

vygramul: Caveat: $50k salary for teachers is luxury the likes of which are rarely seen outside the halls of Congress.


Starting pay for teachers is around 30k. After twenty years, you can make 60k. America hates teachers.
 
2014-03-30 10:16:23 AM

PapaChester: vygramul: Caveat: $50k salary for teachers is luxury the likes of which are rarely seen outside the halls of Congress.

Starting pay for teachers is around 30k. After twenty years, you can make 60k. America hates teachers.


I'm referring to when Scott Walker made public sector unions illegal and Fox was saying how $50k was wealthy.
 
2014-03-30 10:17:27 AM
Do you long for the days of a confessed corrupt politician running Homeland Security? Want Comcast to own every ISP in the US? Think a salary income of $250,000 is poverty line too low to pay taxes but a salary of $50,000 with healthcare are the elite? Then you're going to be all for the GOP's 2016 Presidential campaign

FTFS
 
2014-03-30 10:22:07 AM
www.aceshowbiz.com
/Snooki, Leno, Gingriches, Who's that in the pink shirt?
 
2014-03-30 10:23:22 AM
I'm just going to kick back and wait for what clowns actually run for President on the GOP ticket for 2016. The current field is pretty weak, IMHO.
 
2014-03-30 10:24:00 AM

MFAWG: DubyaHater: I only make $185K/year as a single person. Life is very difficult. I don't know how I make ends meet. I need lower taxes.
/me me me
//me me me me me me

I remember a lady calling one of our local right wing nutjob radio hosts pretty much in tears saying how tough life was living up in Issaquah and scraping by on 200k a year. And she was dead serious.


My buddy tells me all the time how tough life is for a family of four with a combined family income of >$260K. He voted for Obama in the last election, but he's going to start voting republican because taxes are the reason he lives paycheck to paycheck. I've started tuning him out when he goes on one of his rants.
 
2014-03-30 10:24:59 AM

whitman00: FTFA:
"But Bush, 61, would have serious vulnerabilities as a candidate. Out of public office for seven years, he has struggled in some appearances and has had difficulty navigating the Republican Party's fault lines on immigration and other issues.  "

And we're done here.

Can't win the primary without going hard right.
Can't win the general election without going too far left for the right wing.

Lather, rinse, repeat for every GOP candidate.


Republicans want to win, if they think they can take the election they will vote for whoever.  Bush will go hard right in the primary then 'pivot' during the general.  Think of Romney with abortion, gun control, gay rights, healthcare etc...etc...

The trick is if he has to go too far right to win the primary, he will lose the general.  That is what Republicans are trying to avoid, so their main goal with all this is have a presumptive nominee well before any primary so there is no huge fight of candidates trying to out "right wing" each other during the primary, hurting the general election.

You will not see a repeat of the Republican primary debates of 2012 and the "frontrunner of the week", Republicans will be United this time.  We will probably know the Republican nominee by this time next year.
 
2014-03-30 10:38:47 AM

vernonFL: So we'll have Bush vs. Clinton?

Jesus Christ.  :  (


This.
I'll be writing in my dog in the next election.
 
2014-03-30 10:41:30 AM

Mantour: [www.aceshowbiz.com image 720x504]
/Snooki, Leno, Gingriches, Who's that in the pink shirt?


Besides the best looking one in the group?
 
2014-03-30 10:41:31 AM

DubyaHater: MFAWG: DubyaHater: I only make $185K/year as a single person. Life is very difficult. I don't know how I make ends meet. I need lower taxes.
/me me me
//me me me me me me

I remember a lady calling one of our local right wing nutjob radio hosts pretty much in tears saying how tough life was living up in Issaquah and scraping by on 200k a year. And she was dead serious.

My buddy tells me all the time how tough life is for a family of four with a combined family income of >$260K. He voted for Obama in the last election, but he's going to start voting republican because taxes are the reason he lives paycheck to paycheck. I've started tuning him out when he goes on one of his rants.


It's funny how your perception of what you NEED changes as your circumstances change.  So no matter how much more you are making than you did 10 years ago, you are struggling now.

CSB; I was wrapped up in the same thought that I was barely getting by, credit cards maxed, living paycheck to paycheck when I was making a little more than I'm making now.  Somehow a light went off and when I tried to simply live in my means, not at the edge of what I hoped to make.  After that everything came together and I don't have any money issues to speak of.

/don't by the car or house you can barely afford or will afford when you get that next raise/promotion.  Get one you can easily afford now.
 
2014-03-30 10:42:01 AM
Don't worry. Rand Paul is gonna run
 
2014-03-30 10:44:09 AM

Mantour: [www.aceshowbiz.com image 720x504]
/Snooki, Leno, Gingriches, Who's that in the pink shirt?


Even if that girl is Mother Goddamn Theresa, set that entire hallway on fire, 'cause that is just way too much suck in one space.
 
2014-03-30 10:45:37 AM

Aldon: whitman00: FTFA:
"But Bush, 61, would have serious vulnerabilities as a candidate. Out of public office for seven years, he has struggled in some appearances and has had difficulty navigating the Republican Party's fault lines on immigration and other issues.  "

And we're done here.

Can't win the primary without going hard right.
Can't win the general election without going too far left for the right wing.

Lather, rinse, repeat for every GOP candidate.

Republicans want to win, if they think they can take the election they will vote for whoever.  Bush will go hard right in the primary then 'pivot' during the general.  Think of Romney with abortion, gun control, gay rights, healthcare etc...etc...

The trick is if he has to go too far right to win the primary, he will lose the general.  That is what Republicans are trying to avoid, so their main goal with all this is have a presumptive nominee well before any primary so there is no huge fight of candidates trying to out "right wing" each other during the primary, hurting the general election.

You will not see a repeat of the Republican primary debates of 2012 and the "frontrunner of the week", Republicans will be United this time.  We will probably know the Republican nominee by this time next year.


That would require a level of self awareness and personal responsibility that no wingnut possesses.
 
2014-03-30 10:46:01 AM
As if it mattered who the Republicans run.
 
2014-03-30 10:47:17 AM

Aldon: whitman00: FTFA:
"But Bush, 61, would have serious vulnerabilities as a candidate. Out of public office for seven years, he has struggled in some appearances and has had difficulty navigating the Republican Party's fault lines on immigration and other issues.  "

And we're done here.

Can't win the primary without going hard right.
Can't win the general election without going too far left for the right wing.

Lather, rinse, repeat for every GOP candidate.

Republicans want to win, if they think they can take the election they will vote for whoever.  Bush will go hard right in the primary then 'pivot' during the general.  Think of Romney with abortion, gun control, gay rights, healthcare etc...etc...

The trick is if he has to go too far right to win the primary, he will lose the general.  That is what Republicans are trying to avoid, so their main goal with all this is have a presumptive nominee well before any primary so there is no huge fight of candidates trying to out "right wing" each other during the primary, hurting the general election.

You will not see a repeat of the Republican primary debates of 2012 and the "frontrunner of the week", Republicans will be United this time.  We will probably know the Republican nominee by this time next year.


I don't have as much faith in that. The reason that the "Frontrunner of the Week" happened is because the base didn't like the presumable nominee (Romney) and we're flocking to anyone who they could get mildly excited about.

So one of the idiot brigade would say something about whores wanting free birth control and abortions, and everyone would rally up. Then after a few days in the limelight they would inevitably say something too stupid for even them, like how a rape baby is God's forceful gift of traumatic love, and they move onto the next one to subtly suggest Obama was a foreign agent from Hydra or something.

I sure they are going to try their damnedest to get all their creations marching to the same drum by then, but they've already proven themselves unable to control this monster. Be it Jeb or Frothy or even Romney again, they'll say something stupid or alienating before the primary and before the general that'll scuttle them between their base and the few kind of sane people still there.
 
2014-03-30 10:49:04 AM

LectertheChef: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll found that almost half of all Americans surveyed say they "definitely would not" vote for Jeb Bush for president.

And yet Republicans are eager to run him anyways. This self-destructive bender of theirs is getting disturbing.

Well, take a look at the other potential candidates. He's the world's tallest midget.


That was pretty much my point.

I'd love to call this hilarious as these assholes continue to fail themselves but this isn't exactly healthy.
 
2014-03-30 10:52:34 AM
Wonder if in the back of their minds they are remembering the statistic that no Republican has been elected to the presidency since 1928 unless there has been a Bush or Nixon on the ticket?
 
2014-03-30 10:54:53 AM

pacmanner: Jeb missed his big chance. Those neocon assholes Cheney and Rumsfeld probably thought that betting on the more pliable Bush brother would help advance their bullshiat. Treasonous bullshiat that they've been getting away with since the Nixon days. Fark the neocons and fark the Bushs. On the other hand fark the Clintons too. Can't we get anyone with some damn honor.


We had an honorable man as President in Jimmy Carter and he got his ass kicked.
 
2014-03-30 10:55:29 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: vernonFL: So we'll have Bush vs. Clinton?

Jesus Christ.  :  (

This.
I'll be writing in my dog in the next election.


You honestly believe there would be no difference between a Clinton Administration and a Bush Administration?
 
2014-03-30 10:57:47 AM

DubyaHater: My buddy tells me all the time how tough life is for a family of four with a combined family income of >$260K. He voted for Obama in the last election, but he's going to start voting republican because taxes are the reason he lives paycheck to paycheck. I've started tuning him out when he goes on one of his rants.


Texas resident here - my brother's daughter is graduating high school this year and my brother is constantly complaining about how expensive the public universities are.  But don't try to tell him that Rick Perry and the republican legislature had anything to do with cutting funding for Higher Ed. Because, you know, "Gun rights".   I don't know what he earns but i know that it is north of six figures.  And t's just him and his wife and his daughter.  He owns two trucks, two passenger cars, and a '65 Ford Mustang in the garage. A specially built garage on his five acres. And yet he can't afford to send his daughter to college because you know, "taxes and socialists".  my point is that Republicans have no viable platform.  I know what they are against, not what they are for.
 
2014-03-30 11:05:01 AM
sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk
 
2014-03-30 11:11:53 AM

Aldon: DubyaHater: MFAWG: DubyaHater: I only make $185K/year as a single person. Life is very difficult. I don't know how I make ends meet. I need lower taxes.
/me me me
//me me me me me me

I remember a lady calling one of our local right wing nutjob radio hosts pretty much in tears saying how tough life was living up in Issaquah and scraping by on 200k a year. And she was dead serious.

My buddy tells me all the time how tough life is for a family of four with a combined family income of >$260K. He voted for Obama in the last election, but he's going to start voting republican because taxes are the reason he lives paycheck to paycheck. I've started tuning him out when he goes on one of his rants.

It's funny how your perception of what you NEED changes as your circumstances change.  So no matter how much more you are making than you did 10 years ago, you are struggling now.

CSB; I was wrapped up in the same thought that I was barely getting by, credit cards maxed, living paycheck to paycheck when I was making a little more than I'm making now.  Somehow a light went off and when I tried to simply live in my means, not at the edge of what I hoped to make.  After that everything came together and I don't have any money issues to speak of.

/don't by the car or house you can barely afford or will afford when you get that next raise/promotion.  Get one you can easily afford now.


Why do you hate America?
 
2014-03-30 11:14:21 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll found that almost half of all Americans surveyed say they "definitely would not" vote for Jeb Bush for president.

And yet Republicans are eager to run him anyways. This self-destructive bender of theirs is getting disturbing.


Nobody with the surname "Bush" is getting elected for a generation at least, they have to know that.

I mean, GWB left office with what, a 22% approval rating? Which, considering about 20% of the country is so hopelessly partisan they'd vote GOP if they ran a Frankenstein's monster made up of Pol Pot, Charles Manson and Carrot Top, translates a 2% approval rating amongst sane people.
 
2014-03-30 11:15:39 AM

DrD'isInfotainment: his mother was totally right when she said "America has had enough of the Bushes

I'm glad I saved this T-shirt.  It's almost time to rock it again.


fc08.deviantart.net
 
2014-03-30 11:20:26 AM
Flawed premise from the start.

The article refers to it, The Rs need to get their in-house shiat in order.  It won't matter who you put up there, you can dig up Zombie Reagan and he still wouldn't win.
 
2014-03-30 11:27:49 AM

qorkfiend: HotIgneous Intruder: vernonFL: So we'll have Bush vs. Clinton?

Jesus Christ.  :  (

This.
I'll be writing in my dog in the next election.

You honestly believe there would be no difference between a Clinton Administration and a Bush Administration?


Speaking for myself, I'd take Clinton over Bush but I'd be less than thrilled about settling for Clinton.

Kind of like how I'd take a 1% raise over a pay cut - one is clearly better than the other but you're losing either way.
 
2014-03-30 11:32:36 AM

Schmegicky: DrD'isInfotainment: his mother was totally right when she said "America has had enough of the Bushes

I'm glad I saved this T-shirt.  It's almost time to rock it again.

[fc08.deviantart.net image 850x574]


In all cases, I'm happier without Bush.
 
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