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(The Atlantic)   Now that we have science, do we truly need philosophy? Well, we do need philosophy majors; otherwise, who would staff our Starbucks, our Buffalo Wild Wings, and our Barnes & Nobles?   (theatlantic.com) divider line 111
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2014-03-29 08:29:16 PM
Well, we do need philosophy majors;

tl;dr

NO
 
2014-03-29 09:10:29 PM
Well, not everyone has the intelligence to get a degree in Women's Study or Communications.
 
2014-03-29 09:14:03 PM
Sure we do.  But probably around 5-10% of the total that we have now.  For the rest of them a philosophy degree is something that will hopefully lead to a career in something else.

/philosophy talk can get abstruse in a hurry.
//possibly outside the plane of immanence.
 
2014-03-29 09:20:15 PM
As a philosophy major, I am not getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2014-03-29 09:26:13 PM

jake_lex: As a philosophy major, I am not getting a kick out of these replies.


Or are you?
 
2014-03-29 09:27:03 PM
What science?
 
2014-03-29 09:29:22 PM
I don't understand the connection. Why would science somehow displace the importance of philosophy?
 
2014-03-29 09:30:00 PM
We DO need more philosophers,

what we don't need is more philosophy majors.


Sorry Jake_lex, yer redundant.
 
2014-03-29 09:31:59 PM
Meh. I'd work in a wing shop. But I'd need to be in charge of the recipes and the beer selection.
 
2014-03-29 09:33:58 PM
Are morals a science or a philosophy?
 
2014-03-29 09:35:40 PM
I think the market still has a place for quick-philosophy kiosks and drive-thrus. "Life is a Twinkie - five dollars, please."
 
2014-03-29 09:36:06 PM

jake_lex: As a philosophy major, I am not getting a kick out of these replies.


No worries. A very good friend of mine got his degree in philosophy. He's making a great living now in IT.
 
2014-03-29 09:37:27 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: jake_lex: As a philosophy major, I am not getting a kick out of these replies.

Or are you?


He should be unconscious from the kicks I'm giving him.

Philosophy has a little useful advice, a lot of depressed moping. But it does deal with things that aren't approachable with science.
 
2014-03-29 09:39:37 PM
Goddammit, now I'm hungry.
 
2014-03-29 09:43:12 PM

wildcardjack: DeathByGeekSquad: jake_lex: As a philosophy major, I am not getting a kick out of these replies.

Or are you?

He should be unconscious from the kicks I'm giving him.

Philosophy has a little useful advice, a lot of depressed moping. But it does deal with things that aren't approachable with science.


I'm glad you've summed up the tens of thousands of pages of thought from hundreds of philosophers over thousands of years and distilled it all down for us into two simple, easy sentences.  At last, I see Plato's Symposium for the empty fraud that it is.
 
2014-03-29 09:43:23 PM
I'm taking a Science and Ethics class right now from a prof who styles himself a "dinosaur philosopher," so I'm getting a kick...
 
2014-03-29 09:43:51 PM
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Soul patches.  We only need more soul patches.
 
2014-03-29 09:46:11 PM

jake_lex: As a philosophy major, I am not getting a kick out of these replies.


It's good prep for the test to get into law school.  This knowledge might make you feel better, or far, far worse.
 
2014-03-29 09:47:57 PM
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Waiter. This conversation isn't very good.
 
2014-03-29 09:48:12 PM
Science tells us how to do things, philosophy tells us why we shouldn't...
 
2014-03-29 09:48:50 PM

Foxxinnia: I don't understand the connection. Why would science somehow displace the importance of philosophy?


Yeah I was thinking the same thing.
 
2014-03-29 09:50:13 PM
To be fair to the subject matter, if I'm drinking Starbucks or eating out, everything tastes better when I know that it's being brought to me by an angst-ridden failure.

Philosophy or art majors, either way.  At least an English major is useful in that they can proofread the work of their betters.

/don't get me started on Sanskrit majors.
//5,000 year old dead language.
///out of my room
 
2014-03-29 09:52:31 PM
philosophy is cornerstone, just like science or math.


do we truly need it?


if you have to farking ask, then YOU certainly do.
 
2014-03-29 09:54:20 PM
"...who would staff our Starbucks, Buffalo Wild Wings, and Barnes & Noble?"

The people who went $30,000 into debt for a degree in painting...? Or acting...or math...or vocal music.
 
2014-03-29 09:59:10 PM
Philosophy is a fine discipline to study to learn writing and rhetoric and other skills that can actually be useful in other fields while not being a 'job training' degree... not like most farking business majors learn anything of value.

/pretty stupid to go into private school debt to get one though.
 
2014-03-29 10:01:21 PM

namatad: Well, we do need philosophy majors;

tl;dr

NO


^^ sums it up perfectly
(yes we do, otherwise namatad is our future)
 
2014-03-29 10:01:49 PM

maram500: "...who would staff our Starbucks, Buffalo Wild Wings, and Barnes & Noble?"

The people who went $30,000 into debt for a degree in painting...? Or acting...or math...or vocal music.


Math?
 
2014-03-29 10:02:19 PM
Unemployment office clerk: "Occupation?"

Unemployed guy: "Standup philosopher!"

Clerk: "What?"

Unemployed guy: "Standup philosopher. I coalesce the vapor of human experience into a viable and logical comprehension."

Office clerk: "Oh, a bullshiat artist."
 
2014-03-29 10:02:20 PM
I feel my minor in philosophy made me a well rounded history instructor.

/ rounded other then the shape
// well to be honest I'm partially that too.
/// I like to cook and I like to eat.
 
2014-03-29 10:03:13 PM
I think philosophy is a noble pursuit for just about anyone, but earning an actual degree in it is wasted effort.
 
2014-03-29 10:03:30 PM

davynelson: philosophy is cornerstone, just like science or math.


do we truly need it?


if you have to farking ask, then YOU certainly do.


If by cornerstone, you mean it could be covered in roughly 20 minutes by any competent teacher, then yes, it's necessary.  It's not difficult, it doesn't require a major.  Real science takes work - philosophy used to be useful, but it's played out now.  It's not that it offers nothing of value.  It does - but not a full major's worth. Not even a minor's worth.

Now, bring me my farking Starbucks, you useless git.
 
2014-03-29 10:04:40 PM

Pribar: Science tells us how to do things, philosophy tells us why we shouldn't...


agreed

sometimes it tells us why we should too

It asks us to question whether or not
Sorta the opposite of religion
 
2014-03-29 10:09:25 PM
This general contempt for the study of anything that doesn't bring money does not bode well for our country's future.
 
2014-03-29 10:11:21 PM
I think Philosophy is a wonderful study that can be very useful in weaving and connecting other disciplines.  Studied in absence of other disciplines, however, probably doesn't lend itself to being very useful.  Study something else first, then come back and get the philosophy education.
 
2014-03-29 10:12:29 PM
As another Philosophy major, I'm also getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2014-03-29 10:14:54 PM

jso2897: This general contempt for the study of anything that doesn't bring money does not bode well for our country's future.


It's not a contempt for anything that doesn't bring money.  That's your bias.

It's a contempt for thinking that getting any major makes you a valuable member of society.  That's horsecrap.  One's major doesn't really matter - it's your ability to contribute to society.

And, honestly, most philosophy majors will contribute by bring science and engineering majors food.
 
2014-03-29 10:15:44 PM

Sticky Hands: maram500: "...who would staff our Starbucks, Buffalo Wild Wings, and Barnes & Noble?"

The people who went $30,000 into debt for a degree in painting...? Or acting...or math...or vocal music.

Math?


Indeed. Knew three math majors from high school. One works with the local college's Christian ministry organization, another for Office Depot, and the last is unemployed and living with his girlfriend's parents. All of them have significant student loan debt.
 
2014-03-29 10:16:16 PM
Science and Philosophy ask the same question: Why? I don't think one will survive without the other.

But meh, I'm just an ale-guzzling wannabe writer. What do I know? Well, maybe I know that they both are amazing sources for a writer of fiction.

Hell, Put together, they equal entertainment. I'm all about entertainment!
 
2014-03-29 10:19:06 PM

Nuclear Monk: I think Philosophy is a wonderful study that can be very useful in weaving and connecting other disciplines.  Studied in absence of other disciplines, however, probably doesn't lend itself to being very useful.  Study something else first, then come back and get the philosophy education.


It makes a wonderful third (post career) study
 
2014-03-29 10:19:15 PM

ReverendJynxed: Are morals a science or a philosophy?


A soft science, maybe, cultural anthropology or sociology.
 
2014-03-29 10:19:32 PM
If you truly believe the cold hard facts of science then there is no need for philosophy or religion.  Just get whats yours and fark the rest.  THAT is how an organism survives in the universe.
 
2014-03-29 10:21:22 PM

maram500: Sticky Hands: maram500: "...who would staff our Starbucks, Buffalo Wild Wings, and Barnes & Noble?"

The people who went $30,000 into debt for a degree in painting...? Or acting...or math...or vocal music.

Math?

Indeed. Knew three math majors from high school. One works with the local college's Christian ministry organization, another for Office Depot, and the last is unemployed and living with his girlfriend's parents. All of them have significant student loan debt.


Well that settles that.

Dumbass.
 
2014-03-29 10:21:57 PM

ronaprhys: jso2897: This general contempt for the study of anything that doesn't bring money does not bode well for our country's future.

It's not a contempt for anything that doesn't bring money.  That's your bias.

It's a contempt for thinking that getting any major makes you a valuable member of society.  That's horsecrap.  One's major doesn't really matter - it's your ability to contribute to society.

And, honestly, most philosophy majors will contribute by bring science and engineering majors food.


I think you proved his point. In our society, a person's value is directly tied to what they do for a living, which is horse shiat. And I say that as someone with a healthy higher than median income.
 
2014-03-29 10:22:34 PM

EllenTheBad: Science and Philosophy ask the same question: Why? I don't think one will survive without the other.

But meh, I'm just an ale-guzzling wannabe writer. What do I know? Well, maybe I know that they both are amazing sources for a writer of fiction.

Hell, Put together, they equal entertainment. I'm all about entertainment!


Sort of.  Science asks the question with the rigor of actual proof.  Philosophy asks the question with pseudo-logic.
 
2014-03-29 10:22:48 PM

maram500: Indeed. Knew three math majors from high school. One works with the local college's Christian ministry organization, another for Office Depot, and the last is unemployed and living with his girlfriend's parents. All of them have significant student loan debt.


I know three that are advanced scientists in silicon valley.... yea, it does not always work out that way
I know a few that are total losers also
I know a few more that are... doing quite well

(and one special one that I have no farking idea what he will do, but who cares, his wife is happy)
 
2014-03-29 10:23:40 PM

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: maram500: Sticky Hands: maram500: "...who would staff our Starbucks, Buffalo Wild Wings, and Barnes & Noble?"

The people who went $30,000 into debt for a degree in painting...? Or acting...or math...or vocal music.

Math?

Indeed. Knew three math majors from high school. One works with the local college's Christian ministry organization, another for Office Depot, and the last is unemployed and living with his girlfriend's parents. All of them have significant student loan debt.

Well that settles that.

Dumbass.


Lighten up, Francis. It's a f**king joke.
 
2014-03-29 10:26:26 PM

picturescrazy: ronaprhys: jso2897: This general contempt for the study of anything that doesn't bring money does not bode well for our country's future.

It's not a contempt for anything that doesn't bring money.  That's your bias.

It's a contempt for thinking that getting any major makes you a valuable member of society.  That's horsecrap.  One's major doesn't really matter - it's your ability to contribute to society.

And, honestly, most philosophy majors will contribute by bring science and engineering majors food.

I think you proved his point. In our society, a person's value is directly tied to what they do for a living, which is horse shiat. And I say that as someone with a healthy higher than median income.



Not at all.  A person's worth is demonstrated by what they bring back to society.  Not what they think they bring or what they feel their degree brings.  The thought that any degree, in and of itself, entitles one to respect or some level of monetary income, is foolishness of the highest order.  Provide a value to society or not.  It's your choice.

If you feel entitled - then you are basically entitled to provide me my chai in the morning.
 
2014-03-29 10:26:34 PM

maram500: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: maram500: Sticky Hands: maram500: "...who would staff our Starbucks, Buffalo Wild Wings, and Barnes & Noble?"

The people who went $30,000 into debt for a degree in painting...? Or acting...or math...or vocal music.

Math?

Indeed. Knew three math majors from high school. One works with the local college's Christian ministry organization, another for Office Depot, and the last is unemployed and living with his girlfriend's parents. All of them have significant student loan debt.

Well that settles that.

Dumbass.

Lighten up, Francis. It's a f**king joke.


Sorry, too much internet for me.
 
2014-03-29 10:26:40 PM
Well, we do need philosophy majors; otherwise, who would staff our Starbucks, our Buffalo Wild Wings, and our Barnes & Nobles?

You don't need philosophy majors for that, subby. I went for 3 years as a Biology major and ended up dropping out and working in a coffee shop.

/currently applying for nursing school
//not taking 16 credits while working this time
 
2014-03-29 10:27:42 PM
Philosophy majors are fine, we just don't need so many. And if you choose this major, don't expect to make much money.
 
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