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(Sydney Morning Herald)   ''Fat has been demonized by our society, and our research shows fat is not always the devil, You can be heavy and amazingly healthy. Fitness is a lot more important than fatness.''   (smh.com.au) divider line 255
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2014-03-29 04:42:39 PM  

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2014-03-29 05:05:40 PM  
You can be fat and not have any indicators of ill-health, meaning it's not currently a problem. The likelihood is lower and it decreases over time as you age, but it's entirely possible and yes, if that's the case then no worries.
 
2014-03-29 05:13:05 PM  
I am fat and I am most certainly not healthy.  I'm healthier than I should be, considering how fat I am and how long I have been fat, but I am in horrible shape.  I have the stamina of a wet noodle.

That being said, I don't think we (as a society) should be treating obesity as a moral failing.  We all have our struggles.  Some people struggle with drugs or alcohol or mental illness or smoking.  Some people struggle with food and exercise.  We all struggle with something and shouldn't be belitteling other people's struggles just because we don't have THAT problem.

That being said, I don't give a fark what any of y'all think about me (or anyone else) being fat.  Go be an asshole somewhere else.
 
2014-03-29 05:17:19 PM  
To sum up:
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You know you want to regret this.
 
2014-03-29 05:23:55 PM  
Fat as an ingredient in food (excluding manufactured trans fat): yes
Fat as 60% of your body weight: no

These people are dangerous. Fat acceptance is dangerous.
 
2014-03-29 05:34:23 PM  
i595.photobucket.com

OK, lady, I'll make you a deal.  I'll look the other way on your fatitude if you can explain away the rest of the crazy shiat going on in this picture.  And the only acceptable answer involves a few tabs of acid.
 
2014-03-29 05:44:43 PM  
Some people just look better, and are healthier with a bit of extra weight on them. All body types aren't skinny and there is nothing wrong with that. There is a big difference between healthy plumpness and morbid obesity however.
 
2014-03-29 05:46:59 PM  

Ambivalence: That being said, I don't think we (as a society) should be treating obesity as a moral failing. We all have our struggles. Some people struggle with drugs or alcohol or mental illness or smoking. Some people struggle with food and exercise. We all struggle with something and shouldn't be belitteling other people's struggles just because we don't have THAT problem.


This so much. Obesity has nothing to do with moral strength or even willpower. It's a tough farking road. I've had my own battles, many of which were never conflated with moral failings by society in general thankfully. But only because many of mine were invisible.

You know what, we're alive. We get one shot at this so don't regret a farking second of it. Laugh, enjoy, every day you're on this side of the grass is a success.

It'll be gone soon enough, don't hate it while it's here.
 
2014-03-29 05:51:21 PM  
There are some simple rules fat people should follow when being fat:
1) Begin eating right. It is hard at first. Deal with it. No soft drinks or processed foods of any kind, period.
2) Exercise. DON'T START RUNNING RIGHT AWAY, WALK AND BUILD UP YOUR WALKING UNTIL YOUR KNEES CAN SUPPORT IT. In fact I recommend you don't run until you're under 215 lbs unless you are on the large side to begin with. Walking burns fat. Running just makes you want to quit quickly.
3) With #1 and #2 in tow, lose weight and improve endurance.
4) Get rid of negative people in your life.
5) Get positive support for your challenge from friends, family, weight loss support groups, and outside counseling.
6) Don't try to justify your fatness to anyone, fatty.

There are some simple rules slim people should follow:
1) Exercise.
2) Eat right.
3) Maintain weight, improve or maintain endurance.
4) Don't ridicule fat people, especially fat people who are working out.

OK, I still maintain the right to ridicule someone who orders and eats a box of KFC chicken and then orders a Diet Coke at the end like that's gonna help.
 
2014-03-29 06:13:17 PM  
When you can no longer stuff yourself into a normal theater or plane seat then it stops being your problem and starts being mine. Other than that I couldn't care less how fat you are.
 
2014-03-29 06:54:19 PM  

Ambivalence: I am fat and I am most certainly not healthy.  I'm healthier than I should be, considering how fat I am and how long I have been fat, but I am in horrible shape.  I have the stamina of a wet noodle.

That being said, I don't think we (as a society) should be treating obesity as a moral failing.  We all have our struggles.  Some people struggle with drugs or alcohol or mental illness or smoking.  Some people struggle with food and exercise.  We all struggle with something and shouldn't be belitteling other people's struggles just because we don't have THAT problem.

That being said, I don't give a fark what any of y'all think about me (or anyone else) being fat.  Go be an asshole somewhere else.


I would like to see better infrastructure and work-life balance so that exercise becomes a normal part of life (e.g. walking to the shops) rather than a chore which you don't want to do because you worked ridiculous hours, then had a 90 minute commute, and now it's 9:00 p.m. and you just want to sit on the couch with some dinner.
 
2014-03-29 06:57:15 PM  

bdub77: OK, I still maintain the right to ridicule someone who orders and eats a box of KFC chicken and then orders a Diet Coke at the end like that's gonna help.


Speaking as someone who does drink diet sodas exclusively, I just don't like drinking the extra sugar.  I eat enough calories, I don't need to be drinking more.  I have no illusions that it's going to help anything, it is just one small way to make things not worse.

Also, everything you said before that sounds reasonable on its face.  But just like you wouldn't tell a heavy smoker "just stop smoking" or an alcoholic "Just stop drinking, it's not that hard", it is not so easy to tell someone who's obese "Just eat better and exercise".  I have been 80+ lbs overweight my ENTIRE LIFE.  If it were really THAT easy, I'd have done it by now.  I don't smoke. I don't drink. I don't do drugs. I don't have THOSE problems but I can sympathize with people who do, because of the problems I do have with food.

And before you say that food isn't addictive, you have obviously never been high on sugar before.  Food itself is not addictive, but the seratonin/dopamine reaction to eating a meal high in sugar and fat, most certainly is.  It is like farking cocaine. I can literally feel the wave of happy wash over me when I eat a meal high in fat and/or sugar.  If you don't have that problem, good for you.  But don't you dare try and tell me "it's not that hard".  I've spent thousands of dollars and undergone surgery and am still 80+ lbs obese. It is that farking hard.
 
2014-03-29 07:18:21 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: I would like to see better infrastructure and work-life balance so that exercise becomes a normal part of life (e.g. walking to the shops) rather than a chore which you don't want to do because you worked ridiculous hours, then had a 90 minute commute, and now it's 9:00 p.m. and you just want to sit on the couch with some dinner.


I would like to not see aisles of candy from September to April.  From halloween to easter it's farking candy everywhere! I would like to not see suffed crust pizzas and deep fried everything. I would like to see more biking lanes and walking paths through pretty green spaces.
 
2014-03-29 07:25:58 PM  

bdub77: There are some simple rules fat people should follow when being fat:
1) Begin eating right. It is hard at first. Deal with it. No soft drinks or processed foods of any kind, period.
2) Exercise. DON'T START RUNNING RIGHT AWAY, WALK AND BUILD UP YOUR WALKING UNTIL YOUR KNEES CAN SUPPORT IT. In fact I recommend you don't run until you're under 215 lbs unless you are on the large side to begin with. Walking burns fat. Running just makes you want to quit quickly.
3) With #1 and #2 in tow, lose weight and improve endurance.
4) Get rid of negative people in your life.
5) Get positive support for your challenge from friends, family, weight loss support groups, and outside counseling.
6) Don't try to justify your fatness to anyone, fatty.

There are some simple rules slim people should follow:
1) Exercise.
2) Eat right.
3) Maintain weight, improve or maintain endurance.
4) Don't ridicule fat people, especially fat people who are working out.


Good lists. The only thing I'd add is see a doctor annually. Whether you're fat, thin or in-between, you can have high blood pressure, high blood sugar and a whole lot of other problems that can't be measured on a bathroom scale.
 
2014-03-29 07:36:25 PM  
I get this a lot from seriously heavy people.
 
2014-03-29 07:39:17 PM  
If fat people are so healthy, how come I can hear them breathing heavily when I move past their obtrusive girth on the sidewalk?
 
2014-03-29 07:42:26 PM  
And.... I'mm'a go work out now. See you guys later.
 
2014-03-29 07:43:07 PM  
BMI stands for Bullshiat Mass Index. Some people look "fat" when in fact they are full of muscles. These people are healthy, can endure more pain, and move when needed. People who are full of fat are unhealthy, their hearts are probably gonna get clogged by fat or they'll develop diabetes. If being fat was healthy, then we wouldn't have many fat people dying left and right from heart attacks, diabetes, and inability to breathe properly.
 
2014-03-29 07:43:22 PM  
Just because one is big; does not necessarily indicate one is unhealthy.
 
2014-03-29 07:43:24 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: OK, lady, I'll make you a deal.  I'll look the other way on your fatitude if you can explain away the rest of the crazy shiat going on in this picture.  And the only acceptable answer involves a few tabs of acid.


i.imgur.com

Maybe you should explain your own namesake first, Doctor Funkenstein :-)

/We love to funk you Doctor Funkenstein, your funk is the best.
 
2014-03-29 07:43:39 PM  

bdub77: OK, I still maintain the right to ridicule someone who orders and eats a box of KFC chicken and then orders a Diet Coke at the end like that's gonna help.


You know some people order a Diet Coke because it tastes better, not because it's supposedly healthier, right?

/what do you mean, you don't care and just want to find an excuse to ridicule fat people?
 
2014-03-29 07:45:06 PM  
Evolution can solve the problem of fatness. People that can't handle the fat will die while the ones that can live on. Wall-e world, here we come!
 
2014-03-29 07:45:15 PM  

GreenSun: People who are full of fat are unhealthy, their hearts are probably gonna get clogged by fat or they'll develop diabetes


Yes, because thin people never get heart disease or develop diabetes.
 
2014-03-29 07:46:56 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: Fat as an ingredient in food (excluding manufactured trans fat): yes
Fat as 60% of your body weight: no

These people are dangerous. Fat acceptance is dangerous.


Why you gotta be hating on trans fat? It's not wrong to be trans. It's just as valid as other fats.
 
2014-03-29 07:47:58 PM  
The key is to be YOUNG and fat. I have gone up and down in my weight my whole adult life and with the exception of the being overweight, I was always very healthy. But the "up" in my late 40's sure is a lot different than in my late 20's. For the first time in my life I have high blood pressure and am pre diabetic. Young people don't realize that putting all that pressure on your body for all those years will really catch up to you when you're older. For me, it's no longer about the "vanity" of just looking better thin, but now I HAVE to lose it to get healthier and live longer.

/ I know, I know. I sound fat. But I AM working on it!
 
2014-03-29 07:48:21 PM  
No pics of hot curvy women? Fark I am disappoint.
 
2014-03-29 07:49:10 PM  
Anybody seen "this is this privilege" on tumblr? It's a bunch of fat people who believe their oppression to be on par with poc and other groups.
 
2014-03-29 07:51:02 PM  
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2014-03-29 07:51:25 PM  
You don't need to be a hardcore gym fanatic to reap rewards. 
Walking 30 mins a day offers a multitude of health benefits.

Obesity doesn't kill, the sedentary lifestyle does.
 
2014-03-29 07:51:35 PM  

zarker: Anybody seen "this is this privilege" on tumblr? It's a bunch of fat people who believe their oppression to be on par with poc and other groups.


Thin*
My favorites are the people who go to the doctor for sleep apnea or back problems and then consider their doctor unprofessional for suggesting the patient lose weight
 
2014-03-29 07:51:41 PM  
Soda is for children. No self-respecting adult should be drinking soda on a regular basis.

/unless it's got booze in it.
 
2014-03-29 07:51:58 PM  

Babbs: The key is to be YOUNG and fat. I have gone up and down in my weight my whole adult life and with the exception of the being overweight, I was always very healthy. But the "up" in my late 40's sure is a lot different than in my late 20's. For the first time in my life I have high blood pressure and am pre diabetic. Young people don't realize that putting all that pressure on your body for all those years will really catch up to you when you're older. For me, it's no longer about the "vanity" of just looking better thin, but now I HAVE to lose it to get healthier and live longer.

/ I know, I know. I sound fat. But I AM working on it!


Impress me, work on the "young" part.
 
2014-03-29 07:52:10 PM  
sure

having fat = good

getting fat = bad

besides, the real problem is just bad diets and lack of movement... you could look like schwarzenegger in his prime but have an awful diet and be sedentary and still get heart disease
 
2014-03-29 07:52:37 PM  
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Die a Beet us


/he chortles at your hilarity
 
2014-03-29 07:52:56 PM  
If you really want to lose weight, just start doing cocaine like everyone else.
 
2014-03-29 07:53:13 PM  

Max Awesome: Soda is for children. No self-respecting adult should be drinking soda on a regular basis.

/unless it's got booze in it.


God created booze so you don't need soda.
Use water.
 
2014-03-29 07:54:07 PM  
I think most people know that being overweight is not healthy. Some just won't admit it. I know I need to lose weight and have been working on it. It isn't easy because I love food. All kinds of food. I really enjoy sitting down to a nice meal. But I know that once I hit my target weight of 200 pounds (I'm a 6'1" tall male) I can have the occasional nice meal and enjoy it without guilt. Of course, that means I'll have to mind my calories the next day or two, but that's ok.
 
2014-03-29 07:54:39 PM  
i762.photobucket.com

Totally agrees.
 
2014-03-29 07:55:58 PM  

Ambivalence: I have been 80+ lbs overweight my ENTIRE LIFE.


That must have been one messy delivery
 
2014-03-29 07:57:46 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-29 07:58:18 PM  
Yes, but most Americans are not fit at all.

//Speaking as one myself.
 
2014-03-29 08:00:59 PM  

bdub77: There are some simple rules fat people should follow when being fat:

2) Exercise. DON'T START RUNNING RIGHT AWAY, WALK AND BUILD UP YOUR WALKING UNTIL YOUR KNEES CAN SUPPORT IT. In fact I recommend you don't run until you're under 215 lbs unless you are on the large side to begin with. Walking burns fat. Running just makes you want to quit quickly.



Bicycling can be an excellent alternative however, working up cardio while strengthening your knees rather than damaging them from repeated shock. As an added bonus, you can get on a bike as long as the seat doesn't disappear up your arse.
 
2014-03-29 08:01:15 PM  
Extra weight is not the issue.  What composes that extra weight is an issue.  And we are not talking about some who is 30 percent body fat.  We are talking about blobbos.  True Cheeto Chompers from  the Planet Fat.  Land whales.  Low flying blimps.  You get the idea.

Being so fat it would be assumed you have a gravitational field around you is not something to be accepted.

However, we can allow for some accommodation if they do something for us.

Once a year, we round up anyone 300 lbs or higher and place them in a jungle with 400 hungry dingos.  The blobbos are given a frying pan for defense and 3 granola bars for food.  If the blobbos can make it out of the jungle alive in a week, they are given respect by all until next year.  All this would be televised,  Vegas bookies will establish odds and accept bets..

(
The plan is quite flexible.  You could also do it with homeless people, welfare recipients, you name it).
 
2014-03-29 08:01:23 PM  

Somacandra: GreenSun: People who are full of fat are unhealthy, their hearts are probably gonna get clogged by fat or they'll develop diabetes

Yes, because thin people never get heart disease or develop diabetes.


Not at anywhere NEAR the same rates.
 
2014-03-29 08:01:46 PM  
You can be very overweight and be healthy. For a while.
 
2014-03-29 08:02:42 PM  
:')

TFA condensed: If you are fat and you have diabetes or heart disease you should stay fat because it boosts your survival chances. If you aren't sick yet you should lose the weight because it really boosts your chance of getting sick.

In other words: none of this "Being fat is healthy" crap. I'd rather stay thin and not having diabetes than getting fat, risking diabetes and then hoping that I get enough protection from the fat that diabetes only costs me 5 years instead of 10 years of my life. The same goes with cardiovascular events. I'd rather not have a heart attack than having an increased chance of surviving one,
 
2014-03-29 08:05:14 PM  

HotWingAgenda: God-is-a-Taco: Fat as an ingredient in food (excluding manufactured trans fat): yes
Fat as 60% of your body weight: no

These people are dangerous. Fat acceptance is dangerous.

Why you gotta be hating on trans fat? It's not wrong to be trans. It's just as valid as other fats.


It's not natural. Those oils shouldn't be liquid at room temperature. You can put hydrogen in it but it's still a solid inside. Sorry, I won't accept it.
 
2014-03-29 08:05:50 PM  
Since this is an exercise'ish thread:

Barbells for strength.

Diet for fat.

Cardio for lungs.

People try to skip one or use one to attain the outcome for another and it's a mess. This stuff is simple, motivation and committment are hard.

A cool tip; on a calender mark a big red 'X' through days where you ate well and had a good day of smart food choices. Over time you'll start to build up longer and longer streaks of red X's, and it helps with keeping momentum in your favor. When you do slip up and see that day without the X and the string of red before it, you're more likely to get back on the wagon.

Try for one or two X's a week, try for two to three when you're comfortable, etc.

Food: it should have a face, it should have swam, walked or flew, or it should be green, dark and leafy preferred. Nothing in a package.

Being hungry is okay -you know you're going to eat again.

Water is amazing.

I was fat, then dropped to the 125-130 range for wrestling. Made it up to 272 for powerlifting, then dropped back down to 162 for grappling, and am on my way to 150, currently. I'm 5'5 3/4".

I know about food.
 
2014-03-29 08:05:57 PM  
Is this where I can make fun of fat people who struggle with food?  Sweet.  I'll be back just as soon as I'm done making fun of the alcoholics and people who are struggling with pain pills and other addictions!  They should just stop drinking and taking those drugs.  Losers!
 
2014-03-29 08:06:42 PM  
Both sides are right. The reality is that health is a complex phenomenon and we are a culture that wants simple lists and east to swallow tidbits so that we can mark the check box health on our life to-do list. That's the tragedy. Health is a lot like economics in that the best answer is often "it depends". It depends on one's premises and assumptions. In my view the number one best advice is the simplest...and also the hardest--listen to your body. There is a million years of evolution there and it generally knows best. But learning to listen to that stranger underneath one's skin is not an easy task. It's not the kind of thing one sandwichs in-between Happy Meals.
 
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