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2014-03-29 04:31:21 PM  
12 votes:
Oh, and you know what else feels like 3 hours of water boarding?  About 5 minutes of actual water boarding.
2014-03-29 04:41:18 PM  
8 votes:
Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.
2014-03-29 04:30:34 PM  
8 votes:
FTFA: "Aasif repeatedly asked me about pizza and whether it was appropriate compensation for a 'fraccident,'" Noon wrote in her op-ed. "I stopped and told them: 'I will not say that word.' Since I was not aware of any fracking accidents, I wasn't going to let them get me on camera saying 'fraccident.'"

Wow, that was pretty savvy of her.  I mean, to not use the word "fraccident" on camera so that they had her saying it.  She wisely just made sure that she was quoted saying it, so that it can only be used in print.  More telling is that she's willfully ignorant of accidents related to tracking.

Future headline, based on this quote:  "Clueless fracking Lobbyest completely unaware of 'fraccidents'"

Oh yeah, much better there lady.  Well done.
2014-03-29 03:20:10 PM  
7 votes:
I don't think I'll ever understand how people like this sleep at night. They know precisely what are the end-results of their lobbying and sycophantic pandering. You have to be a sociopath to do what they do. I guess it's better than first-degree murder, but not by much.
2014-03-29 05:20:39 PM  
6 votes:

FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?


For the same reason people gamble at casinos, they think they can beat the house.
2014-03-29 03:14:12 PM  
5 votes:
"On the plane on the way home, I reflected on the experience and deduced what they were up to."

Wow.  It took her that long.  And wow.  She admits as much.
2014-03-29 03:12:21 PM  
5 votes:

FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?


Because they are self-righteous and dumb. Or at least dumber than they think they are.
2014-03-29 06:59:18 PM  
4 votes:

unyon: Oh, and you know what else feels like 3 hours of water boarding?  About 5 minutes of actual water boarding.


My googles are weak, so I couldn't find the video.  A guy voluntarily got waterboarded, just to see how bad it was.  He lasted (I think) 11 seconds.  He was holding onto a small metal pipe and had to just drop it to make them stop.  Afterwards they were interviewing him about it, and the guy that actually did the waterboarding, who also administers it to some of our elite forces as training, said that was longer than most special forces people make it their first time.  The guy that had been waterboarded replied that he was trying to let go of the pipe after about 1 second, but was so overcome with sheer terror and panic that he couldn't get himself to let go; he just completely froze up and his hand tightened up around it.

And no, torture sympathizers, it isn't "simulated drowning."  It is actual, slow drowning, at least according to the medical doctor and the guy that uses it to train elite military units.  You begin inhaling water, which gets into your lungs, decreases surface area of lung tissue that can absorb oxygen out of the air you breath, and it will kill you if it isn't stopped.
2014-03-29 06:09:48 PM  
4 votes:

SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.


Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.
2014-03-29 08:25:51 PM  
3 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think I'll ever understand how people like this sleep at night. They know precisely what are the end-results of their lobbying and sycophantic pandering. You have to be a sociopath to do what they do. I guess it's better than first-degree murder, but not by much.


The checks clear, and they don't care about other people. As a Texan I've spent lots of time speaking with Conservatives, so please believe me when I tell you this. They. Do not. Give a shiat. About other people. They just don't. They barely care about their own families as people rather than possessions(this is why red states have super-high domestic abuse stats), why would they give a damn about strangers? As to the world, half of them want the world to end because they think that will make their magic Aryan Dionysus clone come back, and the other half got theirs, so the devil can take the rest.
2014-03-29 07:21:58 PM  
3 votes:

WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.


I don't watch that often, but one of the last interviews I saw, Aasif had the interviewee speechless for a long 5 seconds after one of his questions.  You could almost see the gerbil wheel turning in his head before he oddly enough agreed half-heartedly.  Hilarious.
2014-03-29 07:07:46 PM  
3 votes:
FTA: "Mandvi talked to Marita Noon, a former Christian speaker..."

Oh, a former Christian speaker. I'm sure that qualifies you as a geologist, hydrologist, chemist, and provides whatever other experience and expertise that may be needed to qualify you as a hydraulic fracturing expert.

Also FTA: Noon wrote that she went into it well aware of how the "Daily Show" handles this kind of interview. "When I walked into the offices of the Daily Show, I felt that I was ready," she wrote. "I told them: 'I know your job is to make me look bad, but mine is to be sure I look good.' I wore a favorite red silk blouse with gold jewelry."

STFU, you brainless shill.
2014-03-29 07:01:08 PM  
3 votes:

Cyclometh: How stupid do you have to be to go on The Daily Show when you KNOW what their angle will be? I'm constantly amazed that they continue to get people to be interviewed.


Stupid and ignorant people tend to believe they are much smarter and educated than they actually are.
2014-03-29 06:53:22 PM  
3 votes:
It always amazes me that these morons don't know how it will go on TDS. You are going to look goofy in the interview, that's their style. You don't have to watch very many of the shows to realize "Hey, this is a comedy show and they like to make people in their interviews look silly because it is a comedy show!"

For that matter any time there is an interview that is like 3 hours long for a normal 30 minute TV show, you know that means they'll be using heavy editing. They are rolling camera for that long so they can find that bits that fit well with what they want to do.

And of course you could always just read up on it, there's information out there. Yes, they interview you for hours. They also do reshoots of the interviewer asking questions in a more outrageous manner to inter-cut with your answers. Also they control all the tapes, you sign releases to that regard, so the final edit is theirs and theirs alone. The end result will be you looking goofy. They won't necessarily be mean to you (though it is probably not that hard to tell) but you are going to look silly because they are a comedy show and laughs are what they are out for.

I feel zero sympathy for anyone who agrees to get interviewed and then is mad that they played the fool. That means either that you did zero research, which makes you an idiot, you ALWAYS check out a show before agreeing to an interview, or you did know, but for some reason thought you'd be the one interview that was different from all the others.

I have plenty of respect for those that go in to it, knowing what it is all about, and are ok with that and figure it'll be fun, or don't mind playing the fool. I have no respect for those that don't like that, but go on anyhow, and then biatch about it.
2014-03-29 06:53:13 PM  
3 votes:

adamatari: The Daily Show people are pretty smart, but what they do is obvious and they've been out-spun and out-talked before. Jon Stewart was embarrassing to watch against John Yoo (the torture lawyer), simply because Yoo was clever and Jon couldn't out-clever a lawyer.


Professional rhetoricists in PR and politics should be embarrassed whenever they don't argue circles around the comedians of The Daily Show. You have one job...
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2014-03-29 03:13:18 PM  
3 votes:

FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?


Because it's a part of their job to take all the free air time they can get.
2014-03-30 12:25:13 AM  
2 votes:

Silent But Deadly: WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.

I don't watch that often, but one of the last interviews I saw, Aasif had the interviewee speechless for a long 5 seconds after one of his questions.  You could almost see the gerbil wheel turning in his head before he oddly enough agreed half-heartedly.  Hilarious.


Yes, the tennessee healthcare speech. Gave a horrible healthcare scenario, guy says "that's what is going to happen with Obamacare", then Maandvi points out this scearionis taking place in Tenessee. Holy CRAP, the guy had no place to go from there.
2014-03-29 10:49:38 PM  
2 votes:
GOOD

That's how you're supposed to feel if a journalist was doing his job.
2014-03-29 10:07:59 PM  
2 votes:
It is a pretty sad state of affairs in journalism when one could reasonably argue that Asif Mandvi is probably one of the top 10 investigative journalists in the U.S. today.
2014-03-29 09:23:10 PM  
2 votes:
The only way to stop this is to make lobbying by commercial interests illegal.  Because it is immoral and subverts the whole idea of democracy.  Oh yeah - loosen the regulations on health and safety and environmental controls because, hey, some goddamn greedy stockholder is more important.

Corporations have shown time and time again not to be trusted with the planet.  Politicians are mostly corrupt just can't resist that sweet, sweet money from lobbyists. These assholes actually feel entitled.

The penalties for both lobbyists and the lobbied should be severe, and should also involve public humiliation before a lengthy prison term.
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2014-03-29 08:55:12 PM  
2 votes:
"Because the average person doesn't understand fracking," she added, "the environmentalists are able to use fear, uncertainty and doubt to plant ideas into people's minds."

I wasn't aware of the great job the oil and gas industry was doing to inform us. Have they told us yet what chemicals they use in their fracking operations?
2014-03-29 07:53:14 PM  
2 votes:
poot_rootbeer:

Professional rhetoricists in PR and politics should be embarrassed whenever they don't argue circles around the comedians of The Daily Show. You have one job..

I used to date a girl who was working on a professional journalism degree at a good university. It says a lot that the rhetoric class she had to take as part of her program was cancelled several times because no one else signed up for it.

WTF? That should be the *FIRST* thing they teach journalists! Heck, you could even go back and make it a "founding fathers" thing... What exactly was one of the core topics of a good education for those guys other than Latin?

If you're not trained in rhetoric, you're basically going to get blown around by those who are. You're bringing a nerf lightsaber to a gun fight. This certainly explains a lot of modern voters.
2014-03-29 07:25:57 PM  
2 votes:

sycraft: It always amazes me that these morons don't know how it will go on TDS. You are going to look goofy in the interview, that's their style. You don't have to watch very many of the shows to realize "Hey, this is a comedy show and they like to make people in their interviews look silly because it is a comedy show!"


It would be like going on the Bill O'Reilly show and expecting to have a conversation where he actually listens to your arguments and allows you to finish your thoughts before talking over you.
2014-03-29 07:16:44 PM  
2 votes:

sycraft: It always amazes me that these morons don't know how it will go on TDS. You are going to look goofy in the interview, that's their style. You don't have to watch very many of the shows to realize "Hey, this is a comedy show and they like to make people in their interviews look silly because it is a comedy show!"

For that matter any time there is an interview that is like 3 hours long for a normal 30 minute TV show, you know that means they'll be using heavy editing. They are rolling camera for that long so they can find that bits that fit well with what they want to do.

And of course you could always just read up on it, there's information out there. Yes, they interview you for hours. They also do reshoots of the interviewer asking questions in a more outrageous manner to inter-cut with your answers. Also they control all the tapes, you sign releases to that regard, so the final edit is theirs and theirs alone. The end result will be you looking goofy. They won't necessarily be mean to you (though it is probably not that hard to tell) but you are going to look silly because they are a comedy show and laughs are what they are out for.

I feel zero sympathy for anyone who agrees to get interviewed and then is mad that they played the fool. That means either that you did zero research, which makes you an idiot, you ALWAYS check out a show before agreeing to an interview, or you did know, but for some reason thought you'd be the one interview that was different from all the others.

I have plenty of respect for those that go in to it, knowing what it is all about, and are ok with that and figure it'll be fun, or don't mind playing the fool. I have no respect for those that don't like that, but go on anyhow, and then biatch about it.


Actually they dont do that at all.  There was an article a while back about a Samatha Bee interview (written by the interviewee) and it was made very clear that they always shot the question and answer together.  If they dont like the take thy have to shot both the question and the answer again.  Honestly i was surprised I sort of assumed they recut things for maximum funny.  I guess the fear of a lawsuit wins out.
2014-03-29 06:54:56 PM  
2 votes:
How stupid do you have to be to go on The Daily Show when you KNOW what their angle will be? I'm constantly amazed that they continue to get people to be interviewed.
2014-03-29 06:48:21 PM  
2 votes:
Leave it to the fracking mouthpiece to joke about waterboarding.
2014-03-29 06:47:11 PM  
2 votes:
She's not that smart. The Daily Show people are pretty smart, but what they do is obvious and they've been out-spun and out-talked before. Jon Stewart was embarrassing to watch against John Yoo (the torture lawyer), simply because Yoo was clever and Jon couldn't out-clever a lawyer.

That one should have been a slam dunk, too, because torture is pretty farking hard to defend, but being clever rather than blunt worked very badly against Jon Stewart.
2014-03-29 06:42:10 PM  
2 votes:

WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.


So did John Oliver. Hope his new show does well.
2014-03-29 05:36:45 PM  
2 votes:
I would like to personally waterboard her for three hours so she can see if it's an apt comparison.

Just for fun we'll make the sure the water used for the waterboarding is from a fracked well.
2014-03-29 10:43:29 PM  
1 votes:

Representative of the unwashed masses: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Representative of the unwashed masses: Just watched the interview, she opened badly by going on the defensive and drawing a line against Environmentalists.

Going the other way there's a clip where three news pieces are referenced, one blowout at surface, one contamination story and one plant fire.  only one is relevant to a fracking piece. Minus 1 for TDS,

Those clips were to counter the shill's assertion that oil companies couldn't be safer and don't need any more regulation, not that fracking itself was safe.

with no context in that regard those are still virtually useless.  Of all things a mattress factory burned up this week.  car accidents happen.  You can't disprove safety records and statistics by only emphasizing a few notable incidents.


A car engine catching on fire and a natural gas refinery catching on fire are two completely different things. A car crash could possibly kill a bunch of people if it is in a Michael Bay-esque crash situation with a one-in-a-million lucky freak coincidences. The other could kill hundreds and level a town if the fire isn't stopped quickly enough. The town of West, Texas, partially disappeared because of negligent inspections of a fertilizer factory, and the damage would be as bad with the oil and gas industry.
2014-03-29 09:40:05 PM  
1 votes:

Representative of the unwashed masses: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Representative of the unwashed masses: Just watched the interview, she opened badly by going on the defensive and drawing a line against Environmentalists.

Going the other way there's a clip where three news pieces are referenced, one blowout at surface, one contamination story and one plant fire.  only one is relevant to a fracking piece. Minus 1 for TDS,

Those clips were to counter the shill's assertion that oil companies couldn't be safer and don't need any more regulation, not that fracking itself was safe.

with no context in that regard those are still virtually useless.  Of all things a mattress factory burned up this week.  car accidents happen.  You can't disprove safety records and statistics by only emphasizing a few notable incidents.


Let me know when you finally decide where you want to put those goal posts and we can discuss this further.
2014-03-29 09:26:09 PM  
1 votes:

Representative of the unwashed masses: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Representative of the unwashed masses: Just watched the interview, she opened badly by going on the defensive and drawing a line against Environmentalists.

Going the other way there's a clip where three news pieces are referenced, one blowout at surface, one contamination story and one plant fire.  only one is relevant to a fracking piece. Minus 1 for TDS,

Those clips were to counter the shill's assertion that oil companies couldn't be safer and don't need any more regulation, not that fracking itself was safe.

with no context in that regard those are still virtually useless.  Of all things a mattress factory burned up this week.  car accidents happen.  You can't disprove safety records and statistics by only emphasizing a few notable incidents.


Actually, yes you can. She said it was safe. It obviously isn't. How many mattress factories catch fire every year? Less than one? He had an info graphic with every fracking-related incident in PA alone and it was much more than "a few"
2014-03-29 08:29:00 PM  
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: "I knew I was not the first person to whom they had reached out," she wrote. "Others had turned them down. If I said 'no,' they'd continue down some list until they found someone who'd say yes. I figured it might as well be me because I know that I know my topic."

Yep, she knows it so well she said this:

"Oil and gas companies are quite good at self-regulating or self-policing,"

Wish he flew her out to Bradford County, PA and have her say that to the faces of those that have been impacted by fracking.


Better yet, have her say that to the locals of the Niger Basin.
2014-03-29 07:52:19 PM  
1 votes:

Representative of the unwashed masses: Just watched the interview, she opened badly by going on the defensive and drawing a line against Environmentalists.

Going the other way there's a clip where three news pieces are referenced, one blowout at surface, one contamination story and one plant fire.  only one is relevant to a fracking piece. Minus 1 for TDS,


Those clips were to counter the shill's assertion that oil companies couldn't be safer and don't need any more regulation, not that fracking itself was safe.
2014-03-29 07:32:20 PM  
1 votes:
I am continuously astounded that such dumb people make so much money. What the fark is going on with the human race.
2014-03-29 07:28:55 PM  
1 votes:

Silent But Deadly: WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.

I don't watch that often, but one of the last interviews I saw, Aasif had the interviewee speechless for a long 5 seconds after one of his questions.  You could almost see the gerbil wheel turning in his head before he oddly enough agreed half-heartedly.  Hilarious.


Yes, that was the revelation that Knoxville, TN has third world health care. OMG that was incredible.
2014-03-29 07:28:48 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: Mandvi talked to Marita Noon, a former Christian speaker

Rape the planet for profit. It's what Jesus would have done.



A former "christian speaker" eh? That explains the hubris.
2014-03-29 07:20:51 PM  
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.

He is really good. I'm surprised he's not been snapped up by a real news agency. Oh wait, there aren't any.


The Daily Show has more integrity than any news show on TV.
2014-03-29 07:19:21 PM  
1 votes:

WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.


He is really good. I'm surprised he's not been snapped up by a real news agency. Oh wait, there aren't any.
2014-03-29 06:56:04 PM  
1 votes:

Ambivalence: FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?

For the same reason people gamble at casinos, they think they can beat the house.


You've been practicing that speech, haven't you?
2014-03-29 06:50:48 PM  
1 votes:

Ryker's Peninsula: I actually thought Aasif went really easy on her.
He could have confronted her with facts, in a humorous way, but opened with a bloody nose joke?
Still, another great segment.


I would have loved to have seen it go like the Tennessee health segment did.
2014-03-29 06:49:24 PM  
1 votes:

Ryker's Peninsula: I actually thought Aasif went really easy on her.
He could have confronted her with facts, in a humorous way, but opened with a bloody nose joke?
Still, another great segment.


Well, JO is just a silly Brit, and Aasif is brown.  Those types of people couldn't possibly outsmart them.
2014-03-29 06:49:22 PM  
1 votes:

Ambivalence: FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?

For the same reason people gamble at casinos, they think they can beat the house.


Ignorance is insufficient for entertainment of this caliber. We need a liberal dose of hubris.
2014-03-29 06:47:14 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: Mandvi talked to Marita Noon, a former Christian speaker

Rape the planet for profit. It's what Jesus would have done.


former Christian... Satan pays a lot better.
2014-03-29 06:39:21 PM  
1 votes:
Has she been waterboarded before?
2014-03-29 06:05:29 PM  
1 votes:
Mandvi talked to Marita Noon, a former Christian speaker

Rape the planet for profit. It's what Jesus would have done.
2014-03-29 04:07:49 PM  
1 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think I'll ever understand how people like this sleep at night. They know precisely what are the end-results of their lobbying and sycophantic pandering. You have to be a sociopath to do what they do. I guess it's better than first-degree murder, but not by much.


I assume you're talking about agreeing to write an article for Townhall?
2014-03-29 02:37:25 PM  
1 votes:
why do these people even agree to go on?
 
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